Are TPTB Goosing the Stock Market & the US $ to Prepare for an Attack on Iran ?

[gunDriller]

S&P 500 returns to 2008 highs - 1400, considered to be some kind of "Magic Threshold" by Stock Market watchers.

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^GSPC+Interactive#symbol=^gspc;range=5y; compare=;indicator=volume;charttype=area;crosshair =on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined;

Same for the Dow & the NASDAQ.

These are supposed to be "barometers of economic strength".

In what multi-dimensional universe is the US economy stronger now than in 2008 ?!


Rabid Zionists have been muttering about attacking Iran for 5 years. Recently their mantra has been,
"it's gonna happen in 2012."

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/enterprise-just-4-days-away-arrival-swift-cut-iran

"Update: as we hit print, we see headlines that the UK will cooperate with the US on bilateral agreement to release oil stocks. Crude down big on the news, which is merely an advance move ahead of almost inevitable war with Iran, simply to make the spike more palatable.

The push to get Iran to do something terminally irrational (now that USS Enterprise in its final tour of duty is almost on location just off the side of CVN-70 Lincoln and CVN-72 Vinson in the Arabian Sea, where the US will shortly have not one, not two, but three aircraft carriers) is now in its final stretch. As AP reported earlier, Iran has been now entirely cut off from the global financial system, as that anchor of international financial transactions, SWIFT, has just taken Iran off the grid. This leaves Iran with just three options for international trade: making gold into a fully convertible currency, barter, or exchanging Rials for Renminbi and other local currencies."


I just think it's wierd to see SOME economic indicators returning to pre-Crash levels.

It gives me the slightly eerie feeling that ==> It's Gonna Crash Again.

The higher it gets the harder it falls - if it's a bubble.

Apple @ $600 a share.

A testament to the strength of Apple or the weakness of the US $ ?

[mamboni]

Is there an ETF that shorts Apple?

[Libertytree]

IDK about the Iran part for sure but as to the TPTB's goosing......Are the Kennedy's gun shy?

[Gaillo]

Is there an ETF that shorts Apple?

Look into investing in WORM... ;D

[mamboni]

Look into investing in WORM... ;D

You're a funny guy Gaillo; you always make me laugh (that's yout entre! LOL)

[Sparky]

Apple has such a large market cap that you can short the Nasdaq as a surrogate.

[EE_]

You guys sure this isn't a real recovery?

The stock market has completely recovered
The bond market is selling off to invest in risky assets
The banks are flush with fresh cash
Homes are selling
The Miami condo market has recovered and new condos are ready to be built
Commercial real estate never crashed
Manufacturing is at an 11 month high
RV's are selling
Luxury goods sales are off the chart
Jobs are improving
Russia and China put their food down on any Zionist bombing of Syria and Iran
Gun and survival/prep sales have exploded
People are traveling...many here at gsus
Fukushima had no ill effects on the world
The Gulf of Mexico is healthy again and fishing has returned
Greece crisis has been averted
No one cares about 20 trillion deficit
The GOP has crashed and burned...who bothers to watch it anymore
Obama is a shoe in for a second term
People are stepping over each other to get expensive tennis shoes and IPhones
The military is leaving Afghanistan and Iraq

Perception is Reality!
All that is left we need, is car and boat sales to pick up

Thank you God for Obama!

[gunDriller]

Apple has such a large market cap that you can short the Nasdaq as a surrogate.

that ... or, isn't it possible to "do" shorts on Apple ?

i thought a short is an agreement to sell, often at a lower price.

i say "do" because i'm not sure if you buy shorts or sell them.

[mamboni]

You guys sure this isn't a real recovery?

The stock market has completely recovered
The bond market is selling off to invest in risky assets
The banks are flush with fresh cash
Homes are selling
The Miami condo market has recovered and new condos are ready to be built
Commercial real estate never crashed
Manufacturing is at an 11 month high
RV's are selling
Luxury goods sales are off the chart
Jobs are improving
Russia and China put their food down on any Zionist bombing of Syria and Iran
Gun and survival/prep sales have exploded
People are traveling...many here at gsus
Fukushima had no ill effects on the world
The Gulf of Mexico is healthy again and fishing has returned
Greece crisis has been averted
No one cares about 20 trillion deficit
The GOP has crashed and burned...who bothers to watch it anymore
Obama is a shoe in for a second term
People are stepping over each other to get expensive tennis shoes and IPhones
The military is leaving Afghanistan and Iraq

Perception is Reality!
All that is left we need, is car and boat sales to pick up

Thank you God for Obama!

You forgot the <sarcasm>.

[Bigjon]

They sure are goosing the hate evil Islam meme, just today i've got 3 emails about what evil Muslims are doing or are going to do to us.

People sure are stupid. They can't connect who it is who wants to raise the hate Islam level.

[EE_]

You forgot the <sarcasm>.

Sorry, no sarcasm smilie...this is what is being told and this is what the majority of people are buying.
(excluding gsus)

[Serpo]

that ... or, isn't it possible to "do" shorts on Apple ?

i thought a short is an agreement to sell, often at a lower price.

i say "do" because i'm not sure if you buy shorts or sell them.

Ive never seen an apple in shorts yet.....

[Sparky]

that ... or, isn't it possible to "do" shorts on Apple ?

i thought a short is an agreement to sell, often at a lower price.

i say "do" because i'm not sure if you buy shorts or sell them.

Yes, you can short Apple as an individual stock. But unlike an ETF, short positions have expiration dates. You need to be correct within a limited period of time.

Personally I think Apple is too fundamentally sound to consider as a short. Sure, they will probably take a 30% hit at some point. But people were saying that at $400 and $500, and they may still be saying it at $800 and $900.

So you could short the Nadaq (with PSQ, or leveraged 2x with QID) and be less "exposed" to Apple's individual strength, but benefit if it takes a hit. Of course, less risk means less potential reward. I've found it difficult to short the market with all the Quantitative Easing that has gone on. I think there's an inevitable big hit coming with all the tax and debt ceiling issues that kick into gear in 2013. But hitting the timing is tough.

[Steal]

Yes, you can short Apple as an individual stock. But unlike an ETF, short positions have expiration dates. You need to be correct within a limited period of time.

Personally I think Apple is too fundamentally sound to consider as a short. Sure, they will probably take a 30% hit at some point. But people were saying that at $400 and $500, and they may still be saying it at $800 and $900.

So you could short the Nadaq (with PSQ, or leveraged 2x with QID) and be less "exposed" to Apple's individual strength, but benefit if it takes a hit. Of course, less risk means less potential reward. I've found it difficult to short the market with all the Quantitative Easing that has gone on. I think there's an inevitable big hit coming with all the tax and debt ceiling issues that kick into gear in 2013. But hitting the timing is tough.
understatment, imo.. wont say how many thousands I have loss in doing just that. puts are pimped hard and really need to be babysat. I guess if I wasnt a doomer, it would be so much easier to just go long. haha

I am gonna go long crude (maybe gold too though I think is in a downtrend current) if (when) it hits sub 97 barrel. that will also be the sign that sticking their noses in other sovereign nations business in middle east is about to commence. (130 or higher crude will kill my business, so need a hedge)