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MNeagle
20th March 2012, 07:14 AM
SEATTLE - When Justin Bassett interviewed for a new job, he expected the usual questions about experience and references. So he was astonished when the interviewer asked for something else: his Facebook username and password.

Bassett, a New York City statistician, had just finished answering a few character questions when the interviewer turned to her computer to search for his Facebook page. But she couldn't see his private profile. She turned back and asked him to hand over his login information.

Bassett refused and withdrew his application, saying he didn't want to work for a company that would seek such personal information. But as the job market steadily improves, other job candidates are confronting the same question from prospective employers, and some of them cannot afford to say no.

In their efforts to vet applicants, some companies and government agencies are going beyond merely glancing at a person's social networking profiles and instead asking to log in as the user to have a look around.

"It's akin to requiring someone's house keys," said Orin Kerr, a George Washington University law professor and former federal prosecutor who calls it "an egregious privacy violation."

Questions have been raised about the legality of the practice, which is also the focus of proposed legislation in Illinois and Maryland that would forbid public agencies from asking for access to social networks.

Since the rise of social networking, it has become common for managers to review publically available Facebook profiles, Twitter accounts and other sites to learn more about job candidates. But many users, especially on Facebook, have their profiles set to private, making them available only to selected people or certain networks.

Companies that don't ask for passwords have taken other steps — such as asking applicants to friend human resource managers or to log in to a company computer during an interview. Once employed, some workers have been required to sign non-disparagement agreements that ban them from talking negatively about an employer on social media.

Asking for a candidate's password is more prevalent among public agencies, especially those seeking to fill law enforcement positions such as police officers or 911 dispatchers.

Back in 2010, Robert Collins was returning to his job as a security guard at the Maryland Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services after taking a leave following his mother's death. During a reinstatement interview, he was asked for his login and password, purportedly so the agency could check for any gang affiliations.
He was stunned by the request but complied.

"I needed my job to feed my family. I had to," he recalled,

After the ACLU complained about the practice, the agency amended its policy, asking instead for job applicants to log in during interviews.

"To me, that's still invasive. I can appreciate the desire to learn more about the applicant, but it's still a violation of people's personal privacy," said Collins, whose case inspired Maryland's legislation.

Until last year, the city of Bozeman, Mont., had a long-standing policy of asking job applicants for passwords to their email addresses, social-networking websites and other online accounts.

And since 2006, the McLean County, Ill., sheriff's office has been one of several Illinois sheriff's departments that ask applicants to sign into social media sites to be screened.

Chief Deputy Rusty Thomas defended the practice, saying applicants have a right to refuse. But no one has ever done so. Thomas said that "speaks well of the people we have apply."

When asked what sort of material would jeopardize job prospects, Thomas said "it depends on the situation" but could include "inappropriate pictures or relationships with people who are underage, illegal behavior."

In Spotsylvania County, Va., the sheriff's department asks applicants to friend background investigators for jobs at the 911 dispatch center and for law enforcement positions.

"In the past, we've talked to friends and neighbors, but a lot of times we found that applicants interact more through social media sites than they do with real friends," said Capt. Mike Harvey. "Their virtual friends will know more about them than a person living 30 yards away from them."

Harvey said investigators look for any "derogatory" behavior that could damage the agency's reputation.

E. Chandlee Bryan, a career coach and co-author of the book "The Twitter Job Search Guide," said job seekers should always be aware of what's on their social media sites and assume someone is going to look at it.

Bryan said she is troubled by companies asking for logins, but she feels it's not a violation if an employer asks to see a Facebook profile through a friend request. And she's not troubled by non-disparagement agreements.


"I think that when you work for a company, they are essentially supporting you in exchange for your work. I think if you're dissatisfied, you should go to them and not on a social media site," she said.

More companies are also using third-party applications to scour Facebook profiles, Bryan said. One app called BeKnown can sometimes access personal profiles, short of wall messages, if a job seeker allows it.

Sears is one of the companies using apps. An applicant has the option of logging into the Sears job site through Facebook by allowing a third-party application to draw information from the profile, such as friend lists.

Sears Holdings Inc. spokeswoman Kim Freely said using a Facebook profile to apply allows Sears to be updated on the applicant's work history.

The company assumes "that people keep their social profiles updated to the minute, which allows us to consider them for other jobs in the future or for ones that they may not realize are available currently," she said.

Giving out Facebook login information violates the social network's terms of service. But those terms have no real legal weight, and experts say the legality of asking for such information remains murky.

The Department of Justice regards it as a federal crime to enter a social networking site in violation of the terms of service, but during recent congressional testimony, the agency said such violations would not be prosecuted.

But Lori Andrews, law professor at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law specializing in Internet privacy, is concerned about the pressure placed on applicants, even if they voluntarily provide access to social sites.

"Volunteering is coercion if you need a job," Andrews said.

Neither Facebook nor Twitter responded to repeated requests for comment.

In New York, Bassett considered himself lucky that he was able to turn down the consulting gig at a lobbying firm.

"I think asking for account login credentials is regressive," he said. "If you need to put food on the table for your three kids, you can't afford to stand up for your belief."

http://www.startribune.com/business/143455776.html?page=all&prepage=2&c=y#continue

EE_
20th March 2012, 08:47 AM
This is wrong on so many levels.
That being said, I support this totally invasive interviewing process for all government officials and law makers.

I'm thinking of starting a new business call "ScrewU".
We will collect dirt on any subject in question to help people gain employment by bringing this dirt to the negotiating table.
If we can't find any dirt, we will provide it!
Our services include:
Photographs of subject seen with prostitutes, gay, black or other.
Child porn on their computer or material found in their home or vehicle.
Illegal substances found with/on or in the bloodstream of subject.
Documents of radical behavior or anti-government terrorist material.
Receipt/evidence of receiving stolen goods/funds.

Don't go to your next interview unarmed, See "ScrewU" first!
The other solution. www.http/screwU.com

SLV^GLD
20th March 2012, 09:19 AM
How does it affect the interview if you do not have any social networking accounts?

undgrd
20th March 2012, 09:22 AM
I don't use FB or Twitter or anything like that.

Carbon
20th March 2012, 09:32 AM
I don't use FB or Twitter or anything like that.

Wait 'til you can't get a job w/out having a FB or Twitter account as part of your resume. I know, I know - that's about as ridiculous as having to piss in a cup to get or keep employment.

Heimdhal
20th March 2012, 09:39 AM
Hopefully one day I'll be making enough profit to have a few employees at my modest leather "shop".

Benefits of Working at Heimdhals Leather Works (AKA Heimdhals Hybrid Holsters) are:

We wont even ask if you have a facebook page! I dont care if you do or dont.
We also wont drug test. As long as you can safley function while at work, thats good enough for me.
We do expect you to hoard gold, guns, food and ammo however and may need to see your stockpile for the zombie appocolypse to make sure its adequate.

Also, expect copious amounts of crude behaviour, foul language, bad singing to loud music and a "puff-puff-pass" policy during breaks.


:)

PatColo
20th March 2012, 09:50 AM
Really disturbing OP article. I hope anyone coerced (and that's what it is... the "or else" part is just unspoken) into providing logins, or logging in at one of their terminals, has the good sense to change passwords immediately on their own 'puter at home, wherever but a non-employer 'puter. Keystroke loggers, anyone? (that's esp for the cases where they logged in themselves on an employer 'puter where a keystroke logger may capture their password, unbeknownst to them, and they're left to imagine their pw is not compromised).

I don't maintain any social media accounts, and also wonder how they handle such oddballs?

And what about those who do maintain them, but tell the potential employer they don't, but they get found out..?

Facebook requires real names, right? They have some verification process too?

Awoke
20th March 2012, 10:30 AM
No, you could sign up under and Alias. Lot's of people do that.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
20th March 2012, 12:00 PM
Yet another reason to forgo FB.

Why even have a FB? To sustain superficial relationships? So that strangers can tell you happy birthday?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLefo0fn96o

muffin
20th March 2012, 08:14 PM
Yet another reason to forgo FB.

Why even have a FB? To sustain superficial relationships? So that strangers can tell you happy birthday?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLefo0fn96o

somebody was a grumpy puss today!

milehi
20th March 2012, 09:24 PM
Being single, asking if I have a FB is a standard question during the interview process when meeting someone new. I'm not asked for my password, but when I reveal I don't do social media, I may as well have said I don't have running water or electricity. You should see the expressions when I say I don't do Tell a vision. It's no wonder I'm single and eat alone.

BrewTech
20th March 2012, 10:17 PM
Hopefully one day I'll be making enough profit to have a few employees at my modest leather "shop".

Benefits of Working at Heimdhals Leather Works (AKA Heimdhals Hybrid Holsters) are:

We wont even ask if you have a facebook page! I dont care if you do or dont.
We also wont drug test. As long as you can safley function while at work, thats good enough for me.
We do expect you to hoard gold, guns, food and ammo however and may need to see your stockpile for the zombie appocolypse to make sure its adequate.

Also, expect copious amounts of crude behaviour, foul language, bad singing to loud music and a "puff-puff-pass" policy during breaks.


:)

Where do I submit my resume?

lapis
20th March 2012, 10:43 PM
Why even have a FB?

I'm very ambivalent about Fakebook, but I've moved around a lot and it's the best way to easily keep in touch with people. And I've set up my profile page so that hardly anything shows up in my stream. For instance I disabled showing that I liked posts, even from myself. And I often delete what most people would consider controversial stuff (like what we post here) after a few days. 99% of my "friends" never say anything about them anyway, so what's the point of keeping them up.

Mouse
23rd March 2012, 03:05 AM
So you want me to work for your company and you expect me to violate your own information security policy so that you can determine if I am employable? Is this a trick question?

If I will allow you to violate my passwords before you have even hired me, how should you expect me to behave when someone waves serious money and asks for sensitive information or login credentials?

Social engineering anyone?

If I was at one of these interviews I would explain my information security and privacy policy and tell them that I hold them to the same.

I bet that nobody got hired for any kind of sensitive/high-pay position that would be hacked so easily.

solid
23rd March 2012, 09:14 AM
Being single, asking if I have a FB is a standard question during the interview process when meeting someone new. I'm not asked for my password, but when I reveal I don't do social media, I may as well have said I don't have running water or electricity. You should see the expressions when I say I don't do Tell a vision. It's no wonder I'm single and eat alone.

Just tell them you have no interest in facebook. Makes you unique. :)

She'll wonder "why does this guy not care about facebook? everyone else does."

Neuro
23rd March 2012, 09:17 AM
Great thinking Mouse!

PatColo
1st July 2012, 11:39 PM
^ are there still good employment opportunities in the MLM spam blasting field?

Glass
2nd July 2012, 01:12 AM
I would be asking potential employers if they block facebook during work time. You could go either way on the response.

yes they do...

no they don't...

If you have a PR role in a company then facebook might be useful. For everyone else, it's costing the company valuable $$...... unless your with the Govt or a bank.

More and more places are blocking it as I would if I ran a business. The problem is the smart phones.... which buzz and beep all day causing people to whip around and grab up their social interface devices and start swiping and poking them.

The other thing to do is to say..... "no" when they ask if you have one. What are they gonna do then?