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EE_
24th March 2012, 09:50 AM
Posted by Alexander Higgins - March 22, 2012 at 9:41 pm - Permalink - Source via Alexander Higgins Blog

Following a DHS order for 450 million rounds of .40 caliber shells a source says the Feds are buying up all military surplus ammo and ordering stores to cease sales.

Source Says Feds Are Buying Up All Surplus Ammo

Just days ago a military ammunition supplier announced that the Department of Homeland Security had entered a contract to purchase 450 million rounds of .40 Caliber ammunition, which is more than on bullet for every man, woman and child in the United States.

ATK Awarded Contract to Supply 450 Million Rounds of .40 Caliber Ammunition to the Department of Homeland Security
ATK has secured a major Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity deal to supply up to 450 million rounds of .40 caliber ammunition to the Department of Homeland Security.

The 1 year contract with four option years comes at a time when many Americans believe that DHS, along with certain aspects of the military, will soon turn their sights on the American people during some sort of martial law scenario.

“We are proud to extend our track record as the prime supplier of .40 caliber duty ammunition for DHS, ICE,” said Ron Johnson, the president of ATK’s Security and Sporting group,” reported a PR Newswire release.

While the news is startling and one can only speculate on the reason Homeland security needs so much ammunition an even more alarming report has surfaced today.

According to an anonymous source the federal government is buying out all ammunition from military surplus stores and says vendors have told him they have been instructed to cease sales of ammunition to the public.

The source claims to have contacted numerous military surplus stores in an attempt to purchase 5.56 ammo and has been repeatedly informed the stores are sold out because the federal government is buying out all surplus ammo.

The vendors are also sold out of Federal M193 and M855 SS109 ammunition and military surplus suppliers and say that any remaining supply of 5.56 ammunition and .223 caliber is about to spike significantly in price due to the shortage being created by the government.

The source points out that after recently purchasing 440 rounds of federal surplus steel core ammo for $149.00 the price has now skyrocketed to over $440.00 for the same amount of ammunition.

While all of this is coming from an unreliable anonymous source I am putting it out there in case the claims are true.

Federal Jack Reports:

From: Anonymous Source
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:27 PM

Subject: Government buying out all the 5.56 Military surplus ammo and is telling ammo dealers to stop selling to their vendors and civilians.

I have been calling allot of ammo distributors and ALL of them are telling me that our government is [buying out] all the 5.56-.223 cal military surplus ammo. And they’re also telling the ammo distributors stop selling the ammo to civilians and their vendors because the government is buying it all up from everyone they can. I have also spoken with theses ammo dealers and they told me that the 5.56 and .223 ammo is going way up in price.

For instance…I paid $149.00 for federal surplus 440 rounds of steel core and now at the gun show today it was selling for $440.00 for 420 rounds. I have checked and ALLOT of places online are out of the Military surplus ammo by federal [including] M193 and M855 SS109 ammo. I did find one place still carrying both these ammo’s and good prices still, but they’re the only place I could find. If interested let me know and Ill forward the info.

I was also told by the same ammo dealers that the government is going to buy all the 9mm and .45 ammo up, so hurry and buy while you can at the lower prices while still available. Guess if they won’t take our guns because they figure that there are some many out there, they will just buy all most popular military calibers. Can’t shoot a gun with no ammo…stock up now while you still can.

Source: Federal Jack http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/22/feds-buying-surplus-ammo-ordering-stores-cease-sales-102511/

Heimdhal
24th March 2012, 10:04 AM
The federal government isnt buying it up, thats not how it works. They are increasing their contract demands from the manufactuer. Lake City, if given the choice, would much sooner sell 200 million rounds of 5.56 to the miltiary, their main contracter, all at once, than 100 million over the course of a year on the open market.

We are ramping up for war in the middle east, its also a massive election year in a turbulant political climate, expect prices to sky rocket this year and for at least 6-8 months following the election, regardless of who wins.

On top of all of that, we are seeing nealry every month for the last year and a half record gun and ammo sales. The production simply cannot support the demand right now. All of the top gun makers have stopped taking future orders and contracts because they are ALL 3-4 months behind on production as it is. Ruger just made an announcement on this in the past week or so, and when they are stopping future orders, you know they're tied up. Freedom Group (Remington, Marlin, etc etc) and Glock have recently done the same thing.

Everyone should expect to see price gouging and sparsity in the market for a while. If theres something you've been meaning to get, now is probably the chance or you'll be waiting a year to a year and a half for prices to normalize. Its a lot like what we went through in the 08 election. I didnt see the surplus market balance out again untilt he back half of '09. Dont get caught in the panic buying, get it now while you can or be prepared to wait.

Twisted Titan
24th March 2012, 11:16 AM
Buy as best you can afford ..and try to make sure those purchases are cash or no descrpit gift cards.

We live when the data bases of who has what is being complied IMO.

Black Blade
24th March 2012, 08:26 PM
Got in some more 5.56/.223 this week. I just got a couple cases of Yugo M67 and some 7.62x51.

http://images.yuku.com/image/jpg/cfc2606107dc2c2ad67bcbd523cb7f1adb131955_r.jpg

A couple thousand rounds to shoot this week.

Heimdhal
24th March 2012, 08:29 PM
I need to grab so more m67 myself. Prices are starting to trickle up now that the shippments are supposedly going to slow down until the end of summer. I say supposedly, because I dont believe it for a second, I think they're trying to gouge like in 08, but either way, a shortage is a shortage whether real or contrived.


I dont shoot 5.56/.223 so Im not terribly worried about that. My fear is with imported ammo being as thats 90% of what I shoot. :(

mamboni
24th March 2012, 09:37 PM
I had my son go buy an AK47 todya, and a bunch of ammo. He has pistols but this is his first semi. The guy at the store siad ammo is real tight; but he's work something out.

For me, a shotgun only for now.

All my neighbors own assault rifles and semis, in addition to shotguns an handguns.