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Norweger
6th April 2012, 11:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0-VQjlJ3LQ&feature=player_embedded

Heil Hitler!

mamboni
6th April 2012, 11:49 AM
Hitler ist Deutscheland!

Deutscheland ist Hitler!

Sieg Heil!

Sieg Heil!

Sieg Heil!

Norweger
6th April 2012, 12:02 PM
Hehe.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMqdUFfxhNI&feature=related

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th April 2012, 12:51 PM
He sure gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted when the rest of Europe had no stomache left for war, after the horrors of WWI. He increased international debt several orders of magnitude, founded Israel, and indirectly created a need to spawn the bretton woods banking system.

Why did he give up on operation Sea-Lion, the mission to invade Britain? Had he been successful, the allies would have had to fight Hitler from North Africa, which they had immense trouble doing during the war. Britain as a launching point is what made D-Day (invasion of mainland europe) possible.

All in all, it seems like Hitler gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted, while still messing up just enough to keep him from becoming a longterm Mediterranean empire.

mamboni
6th April 2012, 12:53 PM
He sure gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted when the rest of Europe had no stomache left for war, after the horrors of WWI. He increased international debt several orders of magnitude, founded Israel, and indirectly created a need to spawn the bretton woods banking system.

His military blunders are interesting to look at, as well. Why did he give up on operation Sea-Lion, the mission to invade Britain? Had he been successful, the allies would have had to fight Hitler from North Africa, which they had immense trouble doing in the war. Britain as an invasion point is what made D-Day possible.

All in all, it seems like Hitler gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted, while still messing up just enough to keep him from becoming a longterm Mediterranean empire.

Isn't there a book "Hitler: Founder of Israel?"

Norweger
6th April 2012, 12:56 PM
He sure gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted when the rest of Europe had no stomache left for war, after the horrors of WWI. He increased international debt several orders of magnitude, founded Israel, and indirectly created a need to spawn the bretton woods banking system.

His military blunders are interesting to look at, as well. Why did he give up on operation Sea-Lion, the mission to invade Britain? Had he been successful, the allies would have had to fight Hitler from North Africa, which they had immense trouble doing in the war. Britain as an invasion point is what made D-Day possible.

All in all, it seems like Hitler gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted, while still messing up just enough to keep him from becoming a longterm Mediterranean empire.

That is the jew friendly conspiratorial view of the matter. The reality is that Hitler had no interest in fighting a war against Britain and that doing so would require him to loosen pressure on the eastern front where he pretty much smashed the communist machinery and thus saved most of Europe from the Thraldom of communism.. Britain included.

Hitler founded Israel.. yeah right.. perhaps you believe in the Holocaust as well?

Norweger
6th April 2012, 01:00 PM
Isn't there a book "Hitler: Founder of Israel?"

The myth about Hitler financing Israel is refuted in the book Warwolves of the Iron Cross: Swastika and Scimitar: Brothers in Arms. It's pretty much the same as "Hitler was a Rothschild herp derp" thingie.

The purpose of these myths is to give the impression that the jews are everywhere and can't be beaten.

mamboni
6th April 2012, 01:07 PM
The myth about Hitler financing Israel is refuted in the book Warwolves of the Iron Cross: Swastika and Scimitar: Brothers in Arms. It's pretty much the same as "Hitler was a Rothschild herp derp" thingie.

The purpose of these myths is to give the impression that the jews are everywhere and can't be beaten.

The thesis is that the Zionists embraced Hitler and the Nazis as a mean to an end: to coerce and intimidiate European Jewry into emigrating to Palestine.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th April 2012, 01:13 PM
The deal to found Israel in Palestine was founded after WWI via The Balfour Delcaration. However, the British were tightly regulating immigration and actively setting quotas - very few Jewish individuals were allowed in each year. They had very little intention of ever letting Israel become a full fledged state - at least that is what British actions hint at.

It is only after WWII that there is any sort of mass migration to palestine. Have you read "10 Questions to the Zionsists" ? It's very important. I think it is safe to say that without Hitler, Israel would not be anything similar to what it is today.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Balfour_portrait_and_declaration.JPG

Norweger
6th April 2012, 01:16 PM
The thesis is that the Zionists embraced Hitler and the Nazis as a mean to an end: to coerce and intimidiate European Jewry into emigrating to Palestine.

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/nazisupport.cfm

Just FYI.. Jews against Zionism acknowledges the Holocaust.

Doesn't make any sense that they needed a war torn nation to help them build Israel when they pretty much owned America and Britain.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th April 2012, 01:17 PM
Ignoring Rothschilds involvement in WWII is, quite frankly, silly. They were obviously involved. Yes, they had influence in America - but America didn't directly found Israel. Rothschild started it with the Balfour declaration, and when it started to look like there was going to be a reneg, WWII sealed the deal.


See what a Rabbi who hates Zionism had to say about the matter:





Ten questions to the Zionists
by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl ZT"L
Dean of Nitra Yeshiva and author of min hametzar
(Published by the author in 1948 and reprinted many times)

1. IS IT TRUE that in 1941 and again in 1942, the German Gestapo offered all European Jews transit to Spain, if they would relinquish all their property in Germany and Occupied France; on condition that:
a) none of the deportees travel from Spain to Palestine; and
b) all the deportees be transported from Spain to the USA or British colonies, and there to remain; with entry visas to be arranged by the Jews living there; and
c) $1000.00 ransom for each family to be furnished by the Agency, payable upon the arrival of the family at the Spanish border at the rate of 1000 families daily.

2. IS IT TRUE that the Zionist leaders in Switzerland and Turkey received this offer with the clear understanding that the exclusion of Palestine as a destination for the deportees was based on an agreement between the Gestapo and the Mufti.

3. IS IT TRUE that the answer of the Zionist leaders was negative, with the following comments:
a) ONLY Palestine would be considered as a destination for the deportees.
b) The European Jews must accede to suffering and death greater in measure than the other nations, in order that the victorious allies agree to a "Jewish State" at the end of the war.
c) No ransom will be paid

4. IS IT TRUE that this response to the Gestapo's offer was made with the full knowledge that the alternative to this offer was the gas chamber.

5. IS IT TRUE that in 1944, at the time of the Hungarian deportations, a similar offer was made, whereby all Hungarian Jewry could be saved.

6. IS IT TRUE that the same Zionist hierarchy again refused this offer (after the gas chambers had already taken a toll of millions).

7. IS IT TRUE that during the height of the killings in the war, 270 Members of the British Parliament proposed to evacuate 500,000 Jews from Europe, and resettle them in British colonies, as a part of diplomatic negotiations with Germany.

8. IS IT TRUE that this offer was rejected by the Zionist leaders with the observation "Only to Palestine!"

9. IS IT TRUE that the British government granted visas to 300 rabbis and their families to the Colony of Mauritius, with passage for the evacuees through Turkey. The "Jewish Agency" leaders sabotaged this plan with the observation that the plan was disloyal to Palestine, and the 300 rabbis and their families should be gassed.

10. IS IT TRUE that during the course of the negotiations mentioned above, Chaim Weitzman, the first "Jewish statesman" stated: "The most valuable part of the Jewish nation is already in Palestine, and those Jews living outside Palestine are not too important". Weitzman's cohort, Greenbaum, amplified this statement with the observation "One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Europe".

I don't have an agenda here, just trying to provide some historical sources that are often glossed over. I'll study & discuss Hitler all day long, but you need to give me more meat to chew on than a single speech.

Norweger
6th April 2012, 01:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDPWYv6K-lQ

gunDriller
6th April 2012, 02:50 PM
The myth about Hitler financing Israel is refuted in the book Warwolves of the Iron Cross: Swastika and Scimitar: Brothers in Arms. It's pretty much the same as "Hitler was a Rothschild herp derp" thingie.

The purpose of these myths is to give the impression that the jews are everywhere and can't be beaten.


the book "Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel" - one of the best history books i've read.

it does not ever state that Hitler or WW2 Germany financed Israel. merely that he was a big supporter of the concept of "sending the Jews to the Desert".

once his ability as an good public speaker became apparent, he began to receive financing. first, more covert, e.g. from a man last name "Trebitsch-Lincoln", whose ties were unclear. (in the 1920's)

later, Jewish financing of WW2 Germany was much more obvious, e.g. as evident in the November 1942 seizure of the Union Bank in NYC. Harriman money (and therefore Rothschild money) - the bank managed by THE Prescott Bush.

The Jewish community did not have a problem with P. Bush loaning money to WW2 Germany during the war. they elected him Connecticut Senator to the US Senate, after the war.

http://www.amazon.com/Adolf-Hitler-Founder-Israel-With/dp/0965752305


http://holywar.org/txt/founder_of_Israel.pdf

DMac
6th April 2012, 03:41 PM
http://trolololololo.com

iOWNme
6th April 2012, 04:52 PM
what about the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Institute_of_Anthropology,_Human_He redity,_and_Eugenics)? No connections to the Crypto's?

I like threads like this, as i like to see both sides. And thanks for posting that video.....

woodman
6th April 2012, 06:20 PM
Hitler and his minions were ultimately responsible for the rape and destruction of Germany and untold millions of German lives. They took Germany and turned it into a police state. Some of their aspirations were indeed noble, such as fighting Communism, but the decisions made by Hitler ended up handing Germany over to rapine and servitude. He is no hero to be idolized bute singly the most responsible person for the destruction of Germany. The next most responsible were the elite Jews who decided that Germany should be ground into the dust. The German people said no to having Jewish masters and that did not sit well with the arrogant Jews.

osoab
6th April 2012, 06:30 PM
Hitler and his minions were ultimately responsible for the rape and destruction of Germany and untold millions of German lives. They took Germany and turned it into a police state. Some of their aspirations were indeed noble, such as fighting Communism, but the decisions made by Hitler ended up handing Germany over to rapine and servitude. He is no hero to be idolized bute singly the most responsible person for the destruction of Germany. The next most responsible were the elite Jews who decided that Germany should be ground into the dust. The German people said no to having Jewish masters and that did not sit well with the arrogant Jews.

Communism, Fascism, Democracy, Republic, Monarchy, Despotism. They are all controlled in the long run. Why favor fascism over communism and vice versa?

Norweger
6th April 2012, 07:03 PM
Hitler and his minions were ultimately responsible for the rape and destruction of Germany and untold millions of German lives. They took Germany and turned it into a police state. Some of their aspirations were indeed noble, such as fighting Communism, but the decisions made by Hitler ended up handing Germany over to rapine and servitude. He is no hero to be idolized bute singly the most responsible person for the destruction of Germany. The next most responsible were the elite Jews who decided that Germany should be ground into the dust. The German people said no to having Jewish masters and that did not sit well with the arrogant Jews.

Hitler knew that the communists had the intention to attack Germany and use it as a springboard for communism for the rest of western Europe. No, the responsibility lies on international jewry and none else.

ShortJohnSilver
6th April 2012, 07:24 PM
There is more to the Balfour Declaration than meets the eye.

The true author of the Balfour Declaration was none other than a Rothschild employee called Viscount Alfred Milner. This was a state secreet until 20 years later.

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Milner,_1st_Viscount_Milner

"Upon his return from South Africa, Viscount Milner occupied himself mainly with business interests in London, becoming chairman of the Rio Tinto Zinc mining company, though he remained active in the campaign for imperial free trade. In 1906 he became a director of the Joint Stock Bank, a precursor of the Midland Bank. "

Rio Tinto Zinc = Rothschild. Note his involvement with a bank that later became Midland, which in 1918 was the largest bank (by deposits) in the world, and is now part of HSBC.

So Rothschild via Rio Tinto and Rothschild via Banking Interests...

from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration_of_1917

In his posthumously published 1981 book The Anglo-American Establishment, Georgetown University history professor Carroll Quigley explained that the Balfour Declaration was actually drafted by Lord Alfred Milner. Quigley wrote:

This declaration, which is always known as the Balfour Declaration, should rather be called "the Milner Declaration," since Milner was the actual draftsman and was, apparently, its chief supporter in the War Cabinet. This fact was not made public until 21 July 1937. At that time Ormsby-Gore, speaking for the government in Commons, said, "The draft as originally put up by Lord Balfour was not the final draft approved by the War Cabinet. The particular draft assented to by the War Cabinet and afterwards by the Allied Governments and by the United States...and finally embodied in the Mandate, happens to have been drafted by Lord Milner. The actual final draft had to be issued in the name of the Foreign Secretary, but the actual draftsman was Lord Milner."[

ShortJohnSilver
6th April 2012, 07:25 PM
Ever read Dune by Frank Herbert? Remember the quote about Baron Harkonnen and his plans, "wheels within wheels"? Describes the parasitic Rothschilds to a T...

Santa
6th April 2012, 07:34 PM
According to Mullins,
National Socialist Zionists = NAZI's


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO5sbwGCR7A

nunaem
6th April 2012, 07:38 PM
Hitler and his minions were ultimately responsible for the rape and destruction of Germany and untold millions of German lives. They took Germany and turned it into a police state. Some of their aspirations were indeed noble, such as fighting Communism, but the decisions made by Hitler ended up handing Germany over to rapine and servitude. He is no hero to be idolized bute singly the most responsible person for the destruction of Germany. The next most responsible were the elite Jews who decided that Germany should be ground into the dust. The German people said no to having Jewish masters and that did not sit well with the arrogant Jews.

You could just as well say that your immune system is responsible for making you sick. When a virus (Jewish bolshivism) invades your body, your immune system (the "police state") needs to fight it harshly or else you die.

LuckyStrike
6th April 2012, 07:43 PM
He sure gave the Rothschilds exactly what they wanted

I have explained this many times before. jews had 100% control of Russia, and darn near that in the US and Britian. If they wanted to move to palestine who would've stood in their way?

They have used a crisis to their benefit to be sure, but to act like it is a fact that "Hitler was a rothschild agent" does not even stand up to logic.

LuckyStrike
6th April 2012, 07:45 PM
See what a Rabbi who hates Zionism had to say about the matter:

The Kol Nidre precludes me from trusting a single word that ever comes out of a jews mouth.

General of Darkness
6th April 2012, 08:28 PM
While I do respect you guys and have heard of the Rothschilds connection to Hitler, I don't believe it. Research what Patton said about the jews and the communists and also the admiration he had for the Germans.

Hitler's biggest mistake was attacking Russia. So many European countries from the Ukraine to Greece fought with the Germans during WWII. So many white Christian lives lost, 5 times the amount of the Holohoax and look at where we are now.

Fighting for the fucking scraps. Negros, muslims all of the third world is destroying our homelands and the jews pull the strings. Hitler had it right. And Alex Linder said it best, "The only way out is through the jew". It's time will come.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th April 2012, 08:38 PM
Hitler's biggest mistake was attacking Russia.

From a purely strategy based viewpoint, I have got to agree with you there.

Militarily, the smartest move would have consolidating western europe and re-establishing naval operations in the Mediterranean sea. Unless an invasion from Stalin was imminent, and I mean within the next 90 days - it would have been wiser to hem up Europe. He should have taken Britain like he planned to do all along. For much of WWII, Hitler had been bombing and destroying British air fields, until he basically downed most of the RAF. He then switched to bombing London, a huge mistake. He actually let the RAF build new bases and re-lauch. It is so strikingly clear that if he had captured Britain instead of invading Russia he would have won. What is the US going to do, set up a bunch of ships in Tunisia and invade?


Remember how the Germans lost WWI - mostly due to the naval blockade of Jutland, where the British shut down Germany's access to the north sea and therefore any imported provisions. By the end of WWI German soldiers got what little food there was and many peasants were reduced to eating a government issued "Synthetic Foodstuffs" and some simply starved. This caused civil war at home in Germany. Meanwhile the Americans were dropping tins of butter and other supplies behind the French and British lines. And the Germans STILL almost won the war through raw military might. Most people don't know enough about WWI and don't know how close it was. German artillery was actively shelling Paris when the peace treaty was signed.





So about Rothschild, I just automatically assume that they are in position to profit from wars when they occur, so I think it is safe to assume they benefited. I look at WWI/WWII like the Greek Peloponnesian war - one long war with a generational break in the fighting in the middle.

So basically I am re-learning about Hitler with this new idea in mind (was he a R.childs' agent?) and seeing if I notice anything new.

General of Darkness
6th April 2012, 08:40 PM
As an example, when I was still doing broadcasting we did this interview. I was the co-host on this but this from almost 2 years ago and see where we are now.

http://reasonradionetwork.com/20100307/the-nationalist-report-crisis-in-greece-part-1-of-2

Hatha Sunahara
6th April 2012, 10:28 PM
Damn if I'd ever thought I'd see such a warm and fuzzy piece like that about Hitler. Our f**king savior! Hitler once said that 'History is written by the victors.' I bet he didn't expect the Jews to win.

I read a book by Archibald Maule Ramsay called The Unnamed War. It's about what European Jews did to get Hitler and the Germans so riled up. Very interesting perspective on it. You can download it here:

http://iamthewitness.com/books/Archibald.Maule.Ramsay/The.Nameless.War.pdf

It broadened my view on history a little. I now see the world divided into power centers. States (Countries Governments) are a power center. Big Corporations are a power center. Banking (money) is a power center. Ideologies (Political Parties) are a power center. Media is a power center. If you got control of all of them, you could strangle everybody until they did what you wanted. You would rule the world. That's the Protocols of Zion and the NWO in a nutshell. If you control the money, you can control everything else. You can corrupt people with money. But you need to do it secretly--out of public view, so you buy the media with money to distract the public. And you need to make sure everyone knows who is paying them, and what would happen to them if they got out of line. So you need to hire some goons--but you get a lot of goons if you control the government--and the goons will follow all the laws without questioning them because they know who pays them.

There is a Luciferian force that drives this octopus that is swallowing up the world. It forces people to make a choice whether to go along to get along, or to stand up to something they know is wrong. I think Hitler was a pawn of this Luciferian force and so too has every American President since Abraham Lincoln. It's the money power. Doing things for money is paying tribute to Lucifer. Humanity needs to rethink money.

And I also think the zionists were using Hitler back then as the 'paragon' of anti-semitism to gain control over all the Jews. Today, they use anti-semitism to gain control over the non-jews. How many hate speech laws are there in the world? I'm not surprised to see the world warming up to Hitler. It's a sign of how free the internet is of Luciferian control.

You can see this Luciferian force in action. Pick your favorite MSM Media Talking Head. They are chosen primarily for appearance. Then comes the ability to read a teleprompter convincingly. They get training in Neuro Linguistic Programming and meter and diction. What they read is the official story of this Luciferian force--and millions of people allow it to become their reality without having a second thought. Who writes the stuff you hear on the news? How much credibility do the experts and authorities you see in the news have? People assume only honorable and honest people get to become experts and authorities. Perhaps a mass awakening means that people will start to question what BS they are being fed. And who is feeding it to them.


Hatha

Book
6th April 2012, 11:09 PM
I read a book by Archibald Maule Ramsay called The Unnamed War. It's about what European Jews did to get Hitler and the Germans so riled up. Very interesting perspective on it. You can download it here:

http://iamthewitness.com/books/Archibald.Maule.Ramsay/The.Nameless.War.pdf

...There is a Luciferian force that drives this octopus that is swallowing up the world. It forces people to make a choice whether to go along to get along, or to stand up to something they know is wrong. I think Hitler was a pawn of this Luciferian force and so too has every American President since Abraham Lincoln. It's the money power. Doing things for money is paying tribute to Lucifer.



According to your own linked book Hitler did stand up to the evil jews.

::)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH0Et56Hxt4

TheNocturnalEgyptian
7th April 2012, 12:20 AM
You know, I am really not trying to minimize Jewish influence in Germany prior to WWII. I took a class once, called "History of Germany: From Bismark to Hitler" So basically from the founding of Germany in 1871 to 1945. (They were formerly the Prussian empire)

One of the main points in the class, emphasized over and over, was how disproportionately represented Jewish people were in German society. I don't remember a lot of the numbers because that was a long time ago, but the one I do remember is that among the German universities, 50% of the faculty was Jewish. .75% of the population overall.

Germany complained quite publicly about this for decades.

Hatha Sunahara
7th April 2012, 01:52 AM
Book, my whole point in linking to the Ramsay book was to provide some information about what the German beef was with the Jews. It's as TNE says--they made themselves the elites of Germany, and there was a popular resentment of that. It was the same in Poland. The Jews there controlled the economy, and the Poles resented that. Jews had advanced a step ahead of 'nationalism' at a time when Germany and Italy and other eastern European regions became 'countries' instead of a part of somebody's empire. Because they were in all countries, they were practicing 'internationalism' or, as we know it today--globalization. They were engaged in a struggle to own or control resources as an international organization, while Germany and the rest of the world saw themselves as 'Nations'. The Europeans still see themselves that way today and are having difficulties with muslims who do not assimilate as well as the jews did, and represent a new lower class in many european countries. Their presence in large numbers threatens the cultural identity of many european nations.

The agenda of the money power is globalization. Just as they stated in the Protocols of Zion. No more nations. Just one giant global empire with them at the top holding all the power. Hitler resisted that, and instead tried to put himself and Germany at the top of that global empire, and he lost. We haven't seen the end of this struggle. The United States has still to be destroyed as a nation, and made a part of a global empire.


Hatha

woodman
7th April 2012, 05:39 AM
You could just as well say that your immune system is responsible for making you sick. When a virus (Jewish bolshivism) invades your body, your immune system (the "police state") needs to fight it harshly or else you die.


Yes, but harking back to the post with the 'wheels within wheels' comment: The immune system of the body public is indeed the military and the police. In this case, just as a virus operates, taking over the machinery in a cell and forcing it to spit out more viruses, the immune system (military, police) is co-opted by the enemy and turned inward on the people it is intended to protect. It is stealth warfare and the people don't even realize they are being attacked by an enemy. A form of HIV brought to us by the elite bankers.

JDRock
7th April 2012, 06:28 AM
here we go AGAIN.....Hitler s name was shikelgruber...there were MANY jews on his cabinet. He was financed by jewry, promoted as man of the year in the jewish press, and managed to consistently and "convieniently" make decisions that cost Germany the war. Stalin? well HE was fifnanced by jewry, WAS also jewish aka-djukashvilli..and
when will people STOP believing jewish propaganda and take the red pill....oh btw "hitlers" philosophy minister??? umm his name was ...ahh his name escapes me but he was kosher as a passover matzah
ahh it was alfred rosenberg! oh and the rest of you bowing at the feet of jewish propaganda, tell me what are the names of the rich jew bankers that hitler had killed?? how many rothschilds, warburgs etc??
NONE. the protocols states "it will be neccessary to sacrifice some of our own"...

JDRock
7th April 2012, 06:36 AM
The Kol Nidre precludes me from trusting a single word that ever comes out of a jews mouth.

bullshit. we believe what benjamin freedman told us, we believe ezra pound....the list goes on.

Book
7th April 2012, 09:05 AM
The Europeans still see themselves that way today and are having difficulties with muslims who do not assimilate as well as the jews did, and represent a new lower class in many european countries. Their presence in large numbers threatens the cultural identity of many european nations.



http://i1017.photobucket.com/albums/af297/lukedevine/SitcomSnapshots.jpg

Jew teevee has already destroyed the cultural identity of all Europeans especially the USA.

:o "assimilate"

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 09:17 AM
bullshit. we believe what benjamin freedman told us, we believe ezra pound....the list goes on.

First it's news to me that Ezra Pound is a jew, second I have never read Freedmans work. So that brings down the list to 1 for you of "trustworthy" jews out of hundreds of millions over the years.

If I were to ever consider a jews opinion on something the last thing it would be is Hitler.



I find it quite humorous though that you and some others are like "oh Hitler had jews all in his cabinet and was financed by jews, as you can see from these various jewish authors I am citing" And then get mad at me when I saw fuck the kikes, all of them.

JDRock
7th April 2012, 12:22 PM
but you believe them hook line and sinker that shikelgruber (hitler ) you opinion of him mirrors the official story as promoted by international jewry to the letter. im not trying to flame you bro its just theres a glaring disparity here.

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 01:20 PM
but you believe them hook line and sinker that shikelgruber (hitler ) you opinion of him mirrors the official story as promoted by international jewry to the letter. im not trying to flame you bro its just theres a glaring disparity here.

You are delusional, in most of the world they put people in prison for thinking what I do of Hitler.

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 02:19 PM
Then there is Dunkirk, where herr Hitler the Jew, stopped his army from capturing the whole British army.

LS you are stupid.

Norweger
7th April 2012, 02:22 PM
He fought to a conclusive victory and saved lots of lives in the process. There wasn't any need to go further.

Dunkirk only proves the goodhearted nature of the fuhrer.. quite the contrast to what the jewish controlled powers did to Dresden.

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 02:25 PM
Then there is Dunkirk, where herr Hitler the Jew, stopped his army from capturing the whole British army.

LS you are stupid.

Talk is cheap, post facts or STFU.

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 03:07 PM
Talk is cheap, post facts or STFU.

I don't need facts, just like you don't have any facts.

Dunkirk is a fact.

General of Darkness
7th April 2012, 03:30 PM
I don't need facts, just like you don't have any facts.

Dunkirk is a fact.

While Dunkirk is a fact that Hilter let the British go, but Hitler didn't want war, ANOTHER FACT. He also didn't holohoax the kikes, ANOTHER FACT. The JEWS WANTED WAR, and I don't think he recognized it until it was too late.

Since you know so many facts you know about Rudolph Hess parachuting into England to discuss peace?

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 03:36 PM
He fought to a conclusive victory and saved lots of lives in the process. There wasn't any need to go further.

Dunkirk only proves the goodhearted nature of the fuhrer.. quite the contrast to what the jewish controlled powers did to Dresden.

So Hitler was stupid then, winning battles isn't the same as winning wars.

To win a war you make the other guy holler "I quit, I give up".

Hitler was controlled opposition, doing a job for his people the Jews.

Norweger
7th April 2012, 03:41 PM
Rudolf Hess's remains taken from grave in dead of night, cremated and scattered after it became neo-Nazi pilgrimage site (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017331/Rudolf-Hess-Hitlers-deputys-remains-exhumed-end-neo-Nazi-pilgrimage.html)

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 03:49 PM
While Dunkirk is a fact that Hilter let the British go, but Hitler didn't want war, ANOTHER FACT. He also didn't holohoax the kikes, ANOTHER FACT. The JEWS WANTED WAR, and I don't think he recognized it until it was too late.

Since you know so many facts you know about Rudolph Hess parachuting into England to discuss peace?

I know about Hess, but would like to know more.

Just because Hess wanted peace doesn't mean Hitler wanted peace and it is for certain that Winnie didn't want peace and the Jews didn't want peace.

They all wanted Germany out of the way and under their total control... That is what has happened.


http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Hess/

David Irving's famous biography:
Hess: The Missing Years
[never published in the United States]

is now available as a Free Download (fully illustrated)

General of Darkness
7th April 2012, 04:02 PM
I know about Hess, but would like to know more.

Just because Hess wanted peace doesn't mean Hitler wanted peace and it is for certain that Winnie didn't want peace and the Jews didn't want peace.

They all wanted Germany out of the way and under their total control... That is what has happened.

RIGHT, but you an others keep calling Hitler a jew, and that is pure speculation and use the old, well Germany lost so Hitler must be a jew. That's a seriously weak ass argument. There's mountains of more evidence against it, than for it.

osoab
7th April 2012, 04:38 PM
So Hitler was stupid then, winning battles isn't the same as winning wars.

To win a war you make the other guy holler "I quit, I give up".

Hitler was controlled opposition, doing a job for his people the Jews.

I think his "people" were the international money cartel. Granted controlled by Joos,

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 04:51 PM
RIGHT, but you an others keep calling Hitler a jew, and that is pure speculation and use the old, well Germany lost so Hitler must be a jew. That's a seriously weak ass argument. There's mountains of more evidence against it, than for it.

if you have some evidence, produce it?

Hitler paid off a cousin from Ireland to keep him quiet.
Hitler had a tank battalion destroy the family grave yard in Austria.
Hitler's own sister worked in a Jewish only place in Vienna.
Hitler gets millions from the Jews.

1940: Hansjurgen Koehler in his book, (http://iamthewitness.com/DarylBradfordSmith_Rothschild_ori.htm) “inside The Gestapo,” states the following, of Maria Anna Schicklgruber, Adolf Hitler’s grandmother,
“A little servant girl…….came to Vienna and became a domestic servant…….at the Rothschild mansion…….and Hitler’s unknown grandfather must be probably looked for in this magnificent house.”
This is backed up by Walter Langer in his book, “The Mind Of Hitler,” in which he states,
“Adolf’s father, Alois Hitler, was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber…….Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived. At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back home…….where Alois was born.”
1942: Prescott Bush, father of future American Presidents’ George Herbert Walker and George W, has his company seized under the, “Trading With The Enemy,” Act. He was funding Hitler from America, whilst American soldiers were being killed by German soldiers.

Book
7th April 2012, 05:35 PM
Hitler was controlled opposition, doing a job for his people the Jews.



http://www.4smileys.com/smileys/crazy-smileys/confused-smiley.gif don't you still also insist that Jackie shot JFK?

Cebu_4_2
7th April 2012, 05:49 PM
don't you still also insist that Jackie shot JFK?

I do.

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 05:50 PM
I don't need facts,



I may end up using this as a sig line as some point......

You are asking me to prove something which isn't true, which is impossible. It;s like me saying Hitler was an alien from space, I read this book that says so, and then getting upset when you laugh at me.

You base Hitler being a jew one the following 1)because Germany lost WWII and a lot of Whites dies 2)because shortly after WWII the UN founded kikestan

but these things in and of themselves don't prove anything.



The facts are that the Germans were fed up after WWI, they were raped and they saw what the Bolsheviks were doing in Russia, namely the genocide of Christians and Hitler was the one speaking out against the jewish/marxists threat.

As I have said before and have never had a response, why would the jews need Hitler? They had control of Russia the US and Britian and were a force in Germany, if the whole goal was to start kikestan WHO WOULD'VE STOOD IN THEIR WAY? Nobody, because everyone else was controlled by the jewish marxists. Ask yourself why didn't the US and Britian attack the jewish bolsheviks in Russia? They were controlled by the rothschilds why not attack them? Patton wanted to, he knew the score (moreso by the end of the war) But no the 3 major countries most controlled by the jews attack a 4th country who kicked them out.

The argument can surely be made that the jews benefited from and instigated the war 100%, they saw it as a giant opportunity and seized it, they "destroyed the greatest race in Europe" as Patton put it, saved the USSR from destruction and then launched a 50 year cold war which put both countries into major debt to the jewish bankers.

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 05:50 PM
http://www.4smileys.com/smileys/crazy-smileys/confused-smiley.gif don't you still also insist that Jackie shot JFK?

Do you still love the way the Fed's framed Edgar Steele (http://www.free-edgar-steele.com/)?

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 05:53 PM
I may end up using this as a sig line as some point......



I did not say I don't need facts.

You are misquoting me to cover up your lack of evidence.

I don't need facts, just like you don't have any facts.

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 05:56 PM
Hitler paid off a cousin from Ireland to keep him quiet.
Hitler had a tank battalion destroy the family grave yard in Austria.
Hitler's own sister worked in a Jewish only place in Vienna.
Hitler gets millions from the Jews.


You are a jew
You are a mossad operative
You get millions from the ADL and SPLC
Your cousin is Mark Potok



It's easy to make things up.

Book
7th April 2012, 05:58 PM
Jews still shit their pants thinking about Adolf Hitler.

http://gfxlovers.com/smilies/imgs/scared/scared006.gif

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 05:58 PM
I did not say I don't need facts.

You are misquoting me to cover up your lack of evidence.

I don't need facts, just like you don't have any facts.

I can use logic, the facts is the history as it played out.

Your arguments do not hold up to logical scrutiny and you just make these accusations which as I just proved in my last post are easy to do and impossible to disprove, and then think you are making valid arguments.

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 06:01 PM
The facts are that the Germans were fed up after WWI, they were raped and they saw what the Bolsheviks were doing in Russia, namely the genocide of Christians and Hitler was the one speaking out against the jewish/marxists threat.

As I have said before and have never had a response, why would the jews need Hitler? They had control of Russia the US and Britian and were a force in Germany, if the whole goal was to start kikestan WHO WOULD'VE STOOD IN THEIR WAY? Nobody, because everyone else was controlled by the jewish marxists. Ask yourself why didn't the US and Britian attack the jewish bolsheviks in Russia? They were controlled by the rothschilds why not attack them? Patton wanted to, he knew the score (moreso by the end of the war) But no the 3 major countries most controlled by the jews attack a 4th country who kicked them out.

The argument can surely be made that the jews benefited from and instigated the war 100%, they saw it as a giant opportunity and seized it, they "destroyed the greatest race in Europe" as Patton put it, saved the USSR from destruction and then launched a 50 year cold war which put both countries into major debt to the jewish bankers.

I agree with most of what you have said here, except...

They alway need a Hitler. They need some dumb patsy to take the fall.

"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

They need a crypto kike to do things their way, while they stand behind the curtain.

They control the message, via their media.

without the internet none of these things would have ever been seen.

Book
7th April 2012, 06:05 PM
Hitler was controlled opposition, doing a job for his people the Jews.



http://ph.cdn.photos.upi.com/sv/ph/UPI-40711315841430/471e9cdbaf1e1f738c3a563b77d29811/Rabin-memorial-rally-canceled-this-year.jpg

Hitler's Birthday is a huge annual holiday celebration in Tel Aviv.

::)

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 06:07 PM
You are a jew
You are a mossad operative
You get millions from the ADL and SPLC
Your cousin is Mark Potok



It's easy to make things up.

True.

But there are historical references for my facts (I just can't find them now and don't give a shit if you don't believe them and won't bother looking for them, but I have seen them.)

Hitler paid off a cousin from Ireland to keep him quiet.
Hitler had a tank battalion destroy the family grave yard in Austria.
Hitler's own sister worked in a Jewish only place in Vienna.
Hitler gets millions from the Jews.

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 06:10 PM
A video on inside the gestapo, from a guy who doesn't seem to be much of a fan of Hitler.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKcCsiECjs

osoab
7th April 2012, 06:16 PM
True.

But there are historical references for my facts (I just can't find them now and don't give a shit if you don't believe them and won't bother looking for them, but I have seen them.)

Hitler paid off a cousin from Ireland to keep him quiet.
Hitler had a tank battalion destroy the family grave yard in Austria.
Hitler's own sister worked in a Jewish only place in Vienna.
Hitler gets millions from the Jews.


So Obummer is a Jew?

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 06:41 PM
So Obummer is a Jew?

I saw a piece that made that claim, but can't find it. It really didn't have many facts to back it up.

The guy who laid out how and who made B'Rock O'Bottom is here (http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/search?q=Obama)

LuckyStrike
7th April 2012, 06:47 PM
I saw a piece that made that claim, but can't find it. It really didn't have many facts to back it up.

The guy who laid out how and who made B'Rock O'Bottom is here (http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/search?q=Obama)

Was it this?
https://equalpartyusa.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/obama-is-a-jew/

Bigjon
7th April 2012, 06:49 PM
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/search?q=hitler


In relation to Hitler, consider the following facts: Hitler ensured Germany's defeat. Hitler preserved England, which was the seat of the Jewish bankers. Hitler destroyed the Ukraine which the Jews hated, at the expense of the German Homeland. Hitler destroyed Poland which the Jews hated, at the expense of the German Homeland. Hitler destroyed Russia which the Jews hated, at the expense of the German Homeland. Hitler declared war on America which he knew to be led by Jews and which he knew had cost Germany the First World War.



I suspect that the Jews want us to argue about whether or not Hitler and Stalin were agents of the Jewish bankers, or turned against the Jews. I know that they were working for the Jews and that their attacks on Jews were only done to inspire Zionism among Jews, but I warn my readers that this a secondary issue and that we should focus on who the enemy is, rather than on who have been its actual enemies and allies.

The Jews are the enemy of the human race. Do not let the Jews distract you and buy themselves time with infighting over the question of Hitler and Stalin's ultimate loyalties. Instead focus on the Jewish problem.

General of Darkness
7th April 2012, 06:57 PM
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/search?q=hitler


In relation to Hitler, consider the following facts: Hitler ensured Germany's defeat. Hitler preserved England, which was the seat of the Jewish bankers. Hitler destroyed the Ukraine which the Jews hated, at the expense of the German Homeland. Hitler destroyed Poland which the Jews hated, at the expense of the German Homeland. Hitler destroyed Russia which the Jews hated, at the expense of the German Homeland. Hitler declared war on America which he knew to be led by Jews and which he knew had cost Germany the First World War.



I suspect that the Jews want us to argue about whether or not Hitler and Stalin were agents of the Jewish bankers, or turned against the Jews. I know that they were working for the Jews and that their attacks on Jews were only done to inspire Zionism among Jews, but I warn my readers that this a secondary issue and that we should focus on who the enemy is, rather than on who have been its actual enemies and allies.

The Jews are the enemy of the human race. Do not let the Jews distract you and buy themselves time with infighting over the question of Hitler and Stalin's ultimate loyalties. Instead focus on the Jewish problem.

Fair enough BigJohn, but I don't think we'll ever know for sure. But at least we can have a civil discussion about it. :)

Book
7th April 2012, 07:24 PM
I warn my readers that this a secondary issue and that we should focus on who the enemy is...The Jews are the enemy of the human race. Do not let the Jews distract you and buy themselves time with infighting over the question of Hitler and Stalin's ultimate loyalties. Instead focus on the Jewish problem.



http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/images/smilies/congrats.gif

steyr_m
7th April 2012, 08:07 PM
http://jewishracism.blogspot.com/search?q=hitler
The Jews are the enemy of the human race. Do not let the Jews distract you and buy themselves time with infighting over the question of Hitler and Stalin's ultimate loyalties. Instead focus on the Jewish problem.

I'm going to give my views/opinions on some of the things you commented on -- just something to think about, and totally agree with you about infighting --- total Jew misdirection.

"Hitler ensured Germany's defeat." --- He never quit, even when the odds were against him.

"Hitler preserved England "--- He always wanted them as an ally against the Bolshevist regime. The Brits are 40-50% German blood.

"Hitler destroyed the Ukraine which the Jews hated" -- more so than Stalin with the Holomodor? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

"Hitler destroyed Poland which the Jews hated" -- Poland was created only after WW1

"Hitler destroyed Russia" -- That wasn't the same "Russia" that existed before WW1 with the monarchy [who were "Anti-Semites"], he wanted to defeat the Bolshevists.

Hitler declared war on "America" [the United States] only because the US had already declared war on Germany. Not an official one, but by allying with the UK and the USSR by the lend-lease programme and I believe they captured a German Destroyer, among many other things, Read/watch Hitlers speech in full length of the deceleration of war against the US

Book
7th April 2012, 10:03 PM
I can use logic, the facts is the history as it played out.



"Despite the frivilous claims of foolhardy patriotards and assorted Jew defenders who often masquerade as “anti-Zionists,” the Nazis were not — in any way — covertly funded by, or in cahoots with, Rothschild bankers. On the contrary, the German, French and Austrian branches of the House of Rothschild were effectively dissolved and extirpated by Hitler. Quite a bizarre and counterproductive action of a “Rothschild agent” wouldn’t you say?"

http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/05/the-nazis-gave-rothschild-bankers-the-boot/

:)

nunaem
7th April 2012, 11:01 PM
So Obummer is a Jew?

Perhaps a better question to ask is, who isn't a Jew? :rolleyes:

Neuro
8th April 2012, 03:35 AM
http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/05/the-nazis-gave-rothschild-bankers-the-boot/

:)
A good read!

Personally I don't think it is unlikely that Hitler was the bastard grandchild of Rothschild, AND that he hated them above everything else. I don't think he was their agent.

iOWNme
8th April 2012, 06:36 AM
Ive asked this question many times....

If the 3rd Reich was indeed the largest most powerful Military at the time, where did it get all of the oil it took to run that war machine? Did Germany produce, manufacture and refine their own oil? NO.

Who controlled most of the worlds oil production at that time? Rothschild....

More facts to ponder....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben

IG Farben controlled the oil additives that the NAZI regime needed for its planes and tanks. Who controlled IG Farben?



Under the Nazis, the German chemical company I.G. Farben and Rockefeller's Standard Oil of New Jersey were effectively a single firm, merged in hundreds of cartel arrangements. I.G. Farben was led, up until 1937, by the Warburg family, Rockefeller's partner in banking and in the design of Nazi German eugenics. Following the German invasion of Poland in 1939, Standard Oil pledged to keep the merger with I.G. Farben going even if the U.S. entered the war. This was exposed in 1942 by Sen. Harry Truman's investigating committee, and President Roosevelt took hundreds of legal measures during the war to stop the Standard-I.G. Farben cartel from supplying the enemy war machine.

In 1940-41, I.G. Farben built a gigantic factory at Auschwitz in Poland, to utilize the Standard Oil/I.G. Farben patents with concentration camp slave labor to make gasoline from coal. The SS was assigned to guard the Jewish and other inmates and select for killing those who were unfit for I.G. Farben slave labor. Standard-Germany president Emil Helfferich testified after the war that Standard


http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/omegafile03.htm


Rockefellar and the NAZI's (http://www.tetrahedron.org/articles/new_world_order/UN_Rockefeller_Genocide.html) - Connect the dots


WallStreet and the Rise of Hitler (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsandiego.indymedia.org%2Fmedia%2F 2007%2F02%2F125049.pdf&ei=bZKBT43qBavE2QWWy4nrBg&usg=AFQjCNENG2L5w-B_bGiMSbMXnI1d6YORiA) - Anthony C Sutton - READ THIS BOOK



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCpsq55uic

osoab
8th April 2012, 07:03 AM
http://www.whale.to/b/morgan.html


Hitler’s main source of economic power was from the I.G. Farben chemical cartel, and I.G. Farben in turn was controlled by the Illuminati. The I.G. Farben cartel was created by loans from Wall Street in what has been called the Dawes plan. Carroll Quigley calls the Dawes Plan "largely a J.P. Morgan production." The J.P. Morgan Group set up the loan to I.G. Farben, which created Hitler. 'Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and World War II." Henry Ford merged his German assets with I.G. Farben in 1928. The cartel created the lethal Zyklon B gas that was used to exterminate the Jews. It was also involved in the torture experimentations that led to mind control methods, such as Monarch Programming. Do you see what happened? A Rothschild agent set up a cartel that was directly involved in the horrible persecution of the Jews. Still the family maintains the illusion of being totally supportive of their race. At first Germany had a significant disadvantage if they were to embark on a second world war. The nation had a fuel shortage, but the Illuminati fixed this problem. The Germans were able to fight WWII through the use of synthetic fuels that were created by the hydrogenation process (turning coal into gasoline).

This process was discovered by I.G. Farben. Hydrogenation technology would not have been fully developed by WWII, but I.G. Farben made a deal with Rockefeller’s Standard Oil, who was able to complete the research, facilitating the war. Interestingly, I.G. Farben plants were not targeted by the bombing raids on Germany. By the end of the war the refineries had experienced only 15% damage. William Dodd, American ambassador to Germany before WWII, wrote President Roosevelt: "At the present moment, more than a hundred American corporations have subsidiaries here or cooperative understandings. 'The DuPonts have their allies in Germany that are aiding in the armament business. Their chief ally is the I.G. Farben Company... 'Standard Oil Company ... sent $2,000,000 here in December, 1933 and has made $500,000 a year helping Germans improve hydrogenation technology] ... ,,The International Harvester Company president told me their business here rose 33% year, but they could take nothing [earnings] out [except in goods]. ‘Even our airplanes people have secret arrangements with Krupps. ‘General Motors Company [which was controlled by the J.P. Morgan Group] and Ford do enormous business here through their subsidiaries and take no profits out." Germany needed the capital of these, and many more American companies in order to wage a war. I.G. Farben had a holding company in the United States called American I.G. Farben. Paul Warburg, his brother Max (head of Germanys secret police during WWI), and Warburg agent Herman Metz were some of the members of the board of directors of the American I.G. Farben. Other directors included Rockefeller/International banking men (Edsel Ford, Charies Mitchell, Walter Teagle, etc) . Three Germans on the Board of Governors were convicted as war criminals after the war, but the elite Americans fore-mentioned were not, even though they participated in the same criminal decisions as those who were punished. According to author Eustice Mullins, Hitier met with Allen and John Foster Dulles in 1933.

The Dulles brothers were acting as legal representatives of Schiff and Warburg’s Kuhn, Loeb & Co, which was an Integral part of the Rothschild network. Mullins claims Kuhn & Loeb had extended large short-term credits to Germany, and needed to ensure the repayment of these loans. The Dulles supposedly assured Hitler he would receive the funds necessary to be installed as Chancellor of Germany, if he promised to repay the debts. One of the largest tank manufacturers for Germany was Opel, which was controlled by the J.p. Morgan Group. Another company connected to the J.p. Morgan Group was Bendix Aviation, ‘which supplied data [to Germany] on automatic pilots, aircraft Instruments and aircraft and diesel engine starters.’ The examples go on and on. There is much more that could be written on this subject. The manufactured Pearl Harbour attack allowed Roosevelt to enter America into the war. A second world war had been created by the Illuminati, with the help of the Rothschild/Morgan/Warburg/Schiff syndicate. After the end of the war, the Tribunals that investigated Nazi war criminals censored "any materials recording Western assistance to Hitler," said historian Antony C. Sutton. Bloodlines of the Illuminati 11. Rothschild (http://www.whale.to/b/sp/rothschild.html)

iOWNme
8th April 2012, 07:41 AM
Henry Ford, help fund the Communist : Gorki Truck plant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAZ)


GAZ (RTS:GAZA) or Gorkovsky Avtomobilny Zavod (Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia), Nizhny Novgorod (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizhny_Novgorod)), translated as Gorky Automobile Plant (Russian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_language): ГАЗ or Го́рьковский автомоби́льный заво́д), started in 1932 as NAZ, a cooperation between Ford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company) and the Soviet Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union). It is one of the largest companies in the Russian automotive industry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_automotive_industry).
Henry Ford, help fund the NAZI's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford


In July 1938, prior to the outbreak of war, the German consul at Cleveland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland) gave Ford, on his 75th birthday, the award of the Grand Cross of the German Eagle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Cross_of_the_German_Eagle), the highest medal Nazi Germany could bestow on a foreigner.[68] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-WP-67) James D. Mooney, vice-president of overseas operations for General Motors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors), received a similar medal, the Merit Cross of the German Eagle, First Class.

Book
8th April 2012, 08:01 AM
Henry Ford, help fund the NAZI's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford



In 1918, Ford's closest aide and private secretary, Ernest G. Liebold (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ernest_G._Liebold&action=edit&redlink=1), purchased an obscure weekly newspaper for Ford, The Dearborn Independent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dearborn_Independent). The Independent ran for eight years, from 1920 until 1927, during which Liebold was editor. Every Ford franchise nation-wide had to carry the paper and distribute it to its customers.

The newspaper published The Protocols of the Elders of Zion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion), which was discredited by The Times (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times) of London as a forgery during the Independent's publishing run. The American Jewish Historical Society (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jewish_Historical_Society) described the ideas presented in the magazine as "anti-immigrant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_%28politics%29), anti-labor, anti-liquor, and anti-Semitic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism)." In February 1921, the New York World (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_World) published an interview with Ford, in which he said: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on." During this period, Ford emerged as "a respected spokesman for right-wing extremism and religious prejudice," reaching around 700,000 readers through his newspaper.[58] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-57) The 2010 documentary film Jews and Baseball: An American Love Story (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_and_Baseball:_An_American_Love_Story) (written by Pulitzer Prize (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize) winner Ira Berkow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Berkow)) noted that Ford wrote on May 22, 1920: “If fans wish to know the trouble with American baseball they have it in three words—too much Jew.”[59] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-nyblueprint1-58)[60] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-59)[61] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-60)[62] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-61)[63] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-62)[64] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford#cite_note-63)

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 08:05 AM
"Despite the frivilous claims of foolhardy patriotards and assorted Jew defenders who often masquerade as “anti-Zionists,” the Nazis were not — in any way — covertly funded by, or in cahoots with, Rothschild bankers. On the contrary, the German, French and Austrian branches of the House of Rothschild were effectively dissolved and extirpated by Hitler. Quite a bizarre and counterproductive action of a “Rothschild agent” wouldn’t you say?"

http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/05/the-nazis-gave-rothschild-bankers-the-boot/

:)

What a load of tripe.

There are historical documents about Hitler's agreement with the Jews to expatriate Germany's Jews to Palestine.

The Warburg family stayed in Germany throughout the war. Max left just before the end in 45 and Paul never left.

Book
8th April 2012, 08:19 AM
The Warburg family stayed in Germany throughout the war. Max left just before the end in 45 and Paul never left.



::) wikipedia:


Max Warburg felt there was hope for the future in Germany and tried to wait out the Nazi crisis. Beginning in 1933 he served on the board of the German Reichsbank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichsbank) under governor Hjalmar Schacht (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hjalmar_Schacht). He sold the bank because the 1935 Nuremberg laws (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_laws) set the framework and campaign of “Aryanization”. He then emigrated to the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) in 1938.

Paul Warburg died at his home in New York City on January 24, 1932, and was buried in Sleepy Hollow Cemetery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepy_Hollow_Cemetery) in Sleepy Hollow, New York (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleepy_Hollow,_New_York). At the time of his death he was chairman of the Manhattan Company and a director of the Bank of Manhattan Trust Company, Farmers Loan and Trust Company of New York, First National Bank of Boston, Baltimore & Ohio Railroad, Union Pacific Railroad, Los Angeles & Salt Lake Railroad, Western Union Telegraph Company, American I.G. Chemical Company, Agfa Ansco Corporation, and Warburg & Company of Amsterdam.

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 08:22 AM
Was it this?
https://equalpartyusa.wordpress.com/2012/01/30/obama-is-a-jew/

yes

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 08:35 AM
::) wikipedia:

Well you got me on that one.
DBSmith made reference to Max as having stayed in Germany throughout WWII. There is another Brother or cousin who never left. He is famous for his work on cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Heinrich_Warburg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_agreement

Hatha Sunahara
8th April 2012, 08:57 AM
If you believe that the 'Illuminati' agenda controls history, you might find this summary of Albert Pike's explanation of their agenda useful in this debate about whether Hitler was 'controlled opposition'.

http://threeworldwars.com/albert-pike2.htm

It's likely that the important 'personae' of history, Hitler included as well as Obama may be actors who are in a scripted role, but are unaware of the script for the entire play. Basically, they are puppets of the money power, and are selected for their ability to follow orders and not reveal the agenda that really drives them if they know any of it.

Of course, this is just my opinion. Like everyone else here, I don't need facts to hold an opinion. However, based on my experience, it seems plausible that even at the highest levels of power, what really rules everything is whoever controls the flow of money. The big fallacy that everyone believes is that the politicians control the money. They do not. The money power controls the politicians, who are all hired by the money power and playing a role that they are paid to play. Just look at what happens to any of them, like JFK, who thought they were autonomous. Also, look at recent events in Europe. Greece's government was selected to kowtow to the bankers. So was Italy's government. And listen to what people like Cameron and Sarkozy and Merkel say. They are like a chorus of puppets--just like the TV MSM 'News' networks. They're just 'catapulting' the propaganda. And it is likely that Hitler did the same.


Hatha

Book
8th April 2012, 09:22 AM
And it is likely that Hitler did the same.



I agree with everything you posted except this quoted final conclusion.

Show us where an AIPAC-like jew organization owned Hitler. Show us the equivalent of Hitler doing this:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/07/24/obama1.jpg

http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/11-02-04/bush-jew-beenie-wailing-wall-in-israel.jpg

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/bill-clinton-israel.jpg

::) show us one single photo of Hitler kissing jew ass

Neuro
8th April 2012, 10:06 AM
What a load of tripe.

There are historical documents about Hitler's agreement with the Jews to expatriate Germany's Jews to Palestine.

The Warburg family stayed in Germany throughout the war. Max left just before the end in 45 and Paul never left.
I don't think there is anything strange about Hitler agreeing with Jewish leaders about moving Jews to Palestine. He wanted them out of Europe. And Book debunked the Warburg staying in Germany during the war. In my opinion the fact that Hitler did lose the war, probably partly due to strategic mistakes in the war, does not mean that he was a Jewish plant. What else do you have?

TheNocturnalEgyptian
8th April 2012, 11:42 AM
If hitler wanted to "preserve Britain" hence his mistake at Dunkirk, why did he start bombing London after that? He let over 100,000 British troops be evacuated at Dunkirk. Then he stopped bombing British airfields (to let them rebuild) and started bombing london (killing British civilians).

Yes it is true that British have Germanic blood in them. Yes it is true that hitler wanted them as allies originally. But by the time war had been declared, he had no problem killing British CIVILIANS - yet he lets the entire british ARMY go free when he has them in an open field, defenseless? He actually told the luftwaffe to stand down.

I think we need a lot more history to be posted. This is slowly but surely being flushed out.

osoab
8th April 2012, 12:02 PM
If hitler wanted to "preserve Britain" hence his mistake at Dunkirk, why did he start bombing London after that? He let over 100,000 British troops be evacuated at Dunkirk. Then he stopped bombing British airfields (to let them rebuild) and started bombing london (killing British civilians).

Yes it is true that British have Germanic blood in them. Yes it is true that hitler wanted them as allies originally. But by the time war had been declared, he had no problem killing British CIVILIANS - yet he lets the entire british ARMY go free when he has them in an open field, defenseless? He actually told the luftwaffe to stand down.

I think we need a lot more history to be posted. This is slowly but surely being flushed out.

Seems like a twofer for TPTB.

They get a scared Britain that will willing allow any draconian war measures and keeping the British forces intact allowed an opponent to exist. Who really cares about the peasants anyway? Plus rebuilding is a bonus for the economy.

Just something that popped into my noggin. Was there real backing for war among the British populace prior to the bombings?

Norweger
8th April 2012, 12:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VDRUBus-o&feature=player_embedded

Horn
8th April 2012, 01:57 PM
First order of business is to once again step on those dumb and weak slavic screwheads in Poland/Lithuania.

They need another day to add to the 13 Independence days they already have.

EE_
8th April 2012, 02:05 PM
I agree with everything you posted except this quoted final conclusion.

Show us where an AIPAC-like jew organization owned Hitler. Show us the equivalent of Hitler doing this:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/07/24/obama1.jpg

http://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/11-02-04/bush-jew-beenie-wailing-wall-in-israel.jpg

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/bill-clinton-israel.jpg

::) show us one single photo of Hitler kissing jew ass

An up and coming, "Whale at the Wall"

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4f7afb9feab8ea3e2a000042-400-/chris-christie-israel.jpg

osoab
8th April 2012, 02:10 PM
An up and coming, "Whale at the Wall"

http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4f7afb9feab8ea3e2a000042-400-/chris-christie-israel.jpg

Nah, he is just bowing to his masters. Mittens is the man.

steyr_m
8th April 2012, 04:36 PM
If hitler wanted to "preserve Britain" hence his mistake at Dunkirk, why did he start bombing London after that? He let over 100,000 British troops be evacuated at Dunkirk. Then he stopped bombing British airfields (to let them rebuild) and started bombing london (killing British civilians).

Yes it is true that British have Germanic blood in them. Yes it is true that hitler wanted them as allies originally. But by the time war had been declared, he had no problem killing British CIVILIANS - yet he lets the entire british ARMY go free when he has them in an open field, defenseless? He actually told the luftwaffe to stand down.

I think we need a lot more history to be posted. This is slowly but surely being flushed out.

I do not know enough about the subject of the London bombing to comment; but I believe the "Miracle at Dunkirk" was a peace offer from Hitler to Britain.

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 05:24 PM
I do not know enough about the subject of the London bombing to comment; but I believe the "Miracle at Dunkirk" was a peace offer from Hitler to Britain.

If you want to make a peace offer first you have to hold something.

By letting them go he didn't have any cards to play. Out of the game, a sure loser.

The Jews have the most to lose by having the worlld wake up to Hitler the Jew.

And they are screaming bloody murder about those of us who see them behind the curtain.

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 05:40 PM
I don't think there is anything strange about Hitler agreeing with Jewish leaders about moving Jews to Palestine. He wanted them out of Europe. And Book debunked the Warburg staying in Germany during the war. In my opinion the fact that Hitler did lose the war, probably partly due to strategic mistakes in the war, does not mean that he was a Jewish plant. What else do you have?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&q


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&q

Book
8th April 2012, 06:06 PM
Hitler the Jew.



http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/lobotomy-cuckoo.jpg

Jackie shot JFK.

::) anyone here at GSUS not on meds?

Norweger
8th April 2012, 06:08 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&q


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&q


..from somebody who believes in the holohoax.

Not worth my time.

Horn
8th April 2012, 06:17 PM
Sometimes is easier to judge a fella by the people he surrounds himself with.


Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.
Heinrich Himmler (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/h/heinrichhi201255.html)

hoarder
8th April 2012, 06:30 PM
Shickelgrubers faked suicide is evidence of his identity. That whole episode reeks of controlled opposition. To me, Hitler and Himmler look like Khazars.
The end result reveals the original intention.

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 06:34 PM
..from somebody who believes in the holohoax.

Not worth my time.

If you don't believe in the holohoax, you must be a believer in the Jews BS story about the holocaust.

Bigjon
8th April 2012, 06:38 PM
http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/lobotomy-cuckoo.jpg

Jackie shot JFK.

::) anyone here at GSUS not on meds?

Bookie the Jew, loves his meds, Which one are you?

I'll bet the bearded guy on the left. Rebbe Book.

iOWNme
8th April 2012, 07:31 PM
Thanks for posting that vid by Jim Condit Bigjon......Very good.

Hitlers Jewish soldiers (http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righitpix.html)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcDpptCdYY0&skipcontrinter=1


Hitler's Jewish Soldiers

The Untold Story of Nazi Racial Laws and Men of Jewish Descent in the German Military

Bryan Mark Rigg

May 2002
528 pages, 95 photographs, 6 x 9
Modern War Studies
Cloth ISBN 978-0-7006-1178-2, $29.95

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitbooklet.jpg
Military service book of "half-Jew" Hermann Aub

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitlineup.jpg

Soldiers taking the oath of allegiance to Hitler

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitgeitner.jpg
"Half-Jew" Horst Geitner was awarded both the Iron Cross Second Class and the Silver Wound Badge.
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitgoldberg.jpg
This photo of "half-Jew" Werner Goldberg, who was blond and blue-eyed, was used by a Nazi propaganda newspaper for its title page. Its caption: "The Ideal German Soldier."

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitascher.jpg
"Half-Jew" Commander Paul Ascher, Admiral Lütjens's first staff officer on the battleship Bismarck; Ascher received Hitler's Deutschblütigkeitserklärung. (Military awards: EKI, EKII, and War Service Cross Second Class.)

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitrogge.jpg
"Quarter-Jew" Admiral Bernhard Rogge wearing the Ritterkreuz; he received Hitler's Deutschblütigkeitserklärung. (Military awards: oak leaves to Ritterkreuz, Ritterkreuz, samurai sword from the emperor of Japan, EKI, and EKII.)
http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitzukertort.jpg
"Half-Jew" Johannes Zukertort (last rank general) received Hitler's Deutschblütigkeitserklärung.

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitholleander.jpg
"Half-Jew" Colonel Walter H. Hollaender, decorated with the Ritterkreuz and German-Cross in Gold; he received Hitler's Deutschblütigkeitserklärung. (Military awards: Ritterkreuz, German-Cross in Gold, EKI, EKII, and Close Combat Badge.)



http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitwilberg.jpg




"Half-Jew" and later Luftwaffe General Helmut Wilberg; Hitler declared him Aryan in 1935. (Military awards: Hohenzollern's Knight's Cross with Swords, EKI, EKII.)

Hatha Sunahara
8th April 2012, 09:18 PM
It never registered before with me, but don't those soldiers in the group photo look like Roman Soldiers with their 'Tunic' like jackets, jodhphurs, and high boots--with a modern styling for the helmet. The only thing missing is the cape. The Romans knew that an Army that looks good projects authority, which in itself pacifies the subject people. But imagine that--Jews fighting for Hitler. Do you suppose they sent them out to round up the other Jews? How much do you think the Nazi party trusted these soldiers?


Hatha

Book
8th April 2012, 09:27 PM
Jews fighting



Jews are not known for volunteering in any army at any time.

::)

Neuro
9th April 2012, 02:13 AM
"Half-Jew" Horst Geitner was awarded both the Iron Cross Second Class and the Silver Wound Badge.
Geitner... Sounds familiar... Any relations to the Geithner Obama's mum worked together with in Indonesia?

Norweger
9th April 2012, 03:10 AM
If you don't believe in the holohoax, you must be a believer in the Jews BS story about the holocaust.

The presenter of your "documentary" believes in the Holocaust™.

Did you understand now?

iOWNme
9th April 2012, 05:29 AM
But imagine that--Jews fighting for Hitler. Do you suppose they sent them out to round up the other Jews? How much do you think the Nazi party trusted these soldiers?


You mean like this one?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg3d00LqhR1qcpjwc.jpg

http://nlpc.org/stories/2011/02/24/soros-should-stop-making-nazi-accusation

Bigjon
9th April 2012, 06:47 AM
The presenter of your "documentary" believes in the Holocaust™.

Did you understand now?

Well I have to thank you for making me look at the video. I haven't watched it for about 2 years and forgot how it absolutely destroys your hero Hitler.

Hitler was carrying out Zionist Jewish policy for his cousins the Rothschilds.

There was a terror policy instituted by Hitler against Jews who resisted going to Palestine, as the Rothschilds dictated.

I have watched almost an hour now and Jim Condit lays it all out. Whether he believes in the Holocaust or not he has not said yet. I doubt if he believes it.

osoab
9th April 2012, 07:03 AM
Jews are not known for volunteering in any army at any time.

::)

Ummm, what about the IDF?

Book
9th April 2012, 07:06 AM
There was a terror policy instituted by Hitler against Jews who resisted going to Palestine, as the Rothschilds dictated.



All pogroms are really secretly ordered by Rothschild?

http://www.mellophant.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif your logic is absurd

Book
9th April 2012, 07:15 AM
Ummm, what about the IDF?



https://jameelaoberman.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/palestinian-family-and-idf-soldier1.jpg
Brave against women and children

http://i56.tinypic.com/fqwco.jpg
Sniveling cowards when asked to face Hezbollah

::)

osoab
9th April 2012, 07:18 AM
https://jameelaoberman.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/palestinian-family-and-idf-soldier1.jpg
Brave against women and children

http://i56.tinypic.com/fqwco.jpg
Sniveling cowards when asked to face Hezbollah

::)

That has nothing to do with the quote of yours I quoted. Nice way to spin it to make your statement.

Book
9th April 2012, 07:31 AM
That has nothing to do with the quote of yours I quoted.



In the uproar sparked by the dirty battle over who will be the next police commissioner, little attention was devoted to a recent news item that was much less juicy, but certainly no less important: About 50 percent of all men aged 18 to 40 - in other words, those men obligated to do compulsory military service and reserve duty - do not actually serve.

Maj. Gen. Avi Zamir, who heads the Israel Defense Forces' Personnel Directorate, warned that if this trend continues, draft-dodgers will comprise 60 percent of the total in another decade. And Tel Aviv, the city in which two founders of the Hebrew defense force, Eliyahu Golomb and Dov Hoz, lived and studied (in Gymnasia Herzliya's first class ), resembles the ultra-Orthodox city of Bnei Brak in its percentage of draft-dodgers.

Haredi draft-dodging is a well-known phenomenon, as is their chutzpah. Evasion even earns them financial benefits. But it now seems that secular draft-dodging is on the rise as well - and it, too, is backed by "rabbis" and "spiritual" leaders.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/the-draft-dodging-state-of-tel-aviv-1.326666

::) common knowledge jews are cowards

osoab
9th April 2012, 07:41 AM
::) common knowledge jews are cowards

I wouldn't say that.

Definitely smart enough not to get their heads shot off.

Book
9th April 2012, 07:47 AM
Definitely smart enough not to get their heads shot off.



http://images.vefblog.net/vefblog.net/a/n/anarchiste/photos_art/2012/03/anarchiste133114044805_art.jpg

::)

Bigjon
9th April 2012, 08:04 AM
All pogroms are really secretly ordered by Rothschild?

http://www.mellophant.com/forums/images/smilies/crazy.gif your logic is absurd

No, you are absurd.

It makes perfect sense to keep your people the Jews segregated from the rest of society. If Jews all assimilate into the greater gentile population there goes your race book, no more Jews,no more cover for criminal Jews like you.

gunDriller
9th April 2012, 08:18 AM
Well I have to thank you for making me look at the video. I haven't watched it for about 2 years and forgot how it absolutely destroys your hero Hitler.

Hitler was carrying out Zionist Jewish policy for his cousins the Rothschilds.

There was a terror policy instituted by Hitler against Jews who resisted going to Palestine, as the Rothschilds dictated.

I have watched almost an hour now and Jim Condit lays it all out. Whether he believes in the Holocaust or not he has not said yet. I doubt if he believes it.


it is described well in the book "The Tranfer Agreement", about the pact made between Israel supporters & Adolf Hitler.

of course, Hitler had supported the idea of "sending the Jews to the desert" for a long time - it's one of the things that brought him to the attention of the elites & got him funding for his political career.

http://www.transferagreement.com/

Book
9th April 2012, 08:46 AM
THE FULL STORY FOR THE FIRST TIME. Despite the enormity of its economic and human importance to the Jews of Europe and the development of Palestine, the entire subject is conspicuously absent from almost all standard histories of the period. But... Edwin Black’s book, The Transfer Agreement, tells the full story for the first time. It vividly describes in tense style the minute-to-minute negotiations as Zionists rushed to save who and what could be saved in the face of a darkening future

-Abraham Foxman national director
Anti-Defamation League

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu330/cthulhu19887/smileys/israel-flag-51.gif Oy Vey...

Neuro
9th April 2012, 10:44 AM
THE FULL STORY FOR THE FIRST TIME. Despite the enormity of its economic and human importance to the Jews of Europe and the development of Palestine, the entire subject is conspicuously absent from almost all standard histories of the period. But... Edwin Black’s book, The Transfer Agreement, tells the full story for the first time. It vividly describes in tense style the minute-to-minute negotiations as Zionists rushed to save who and what could be saved in the face of a darkening future

-Abraham Foxman national director
Anti-Defamation League

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/uu330/cthulhu19887/smileys/israel-flag-51.gif Oy Vey...

The writer, Edwin Black is obviously a staunch hard core Zionist. Who has written a dozen or so books on the holohoax, after he wrote "the transfer agreement". The impression I get after reading his 2009 introduction: http://www.transferagreement.com/index.php?page=10197 is that he is trying to smooth over the actions of the involved Zionists. He even recommends one reads all his other books that he wrote afterwards before reading this one, to "better understand the Zionists of 1933 Germany... I get the impression that he wrote some truths, inadvertently through naivety, in 1984 that he since then has tried his best to sugarcoat...

Still, I wouldn't trust much of the details in " the transfer agreement", after all he was a Zionist then also... But the Big Picture, did Zionists and Hitler sit down at a table in 1933 and negotiate a deal that involved 60.000 Jews going to Palestine, and $100 Million of their assets to go with them (That's about 5 million ounces of gold, or $8 Billion, in today's value)?

Yes! I think that is very likely! Does this mean Hitler was pro-Zionist?

No I don't think so I think it means that he wanted the Jews out of Germany, and especially the first batch of Zionists. Does it mean that the Zionist were prepared to throw the rest of the Jews under the bus, and see who would survive?

Yes, it seems that way, any later agreements to move Jews out of German occupied territories were blocked by Zionists...

Just want to add I don't believe in the Gas Chambers, but life for the Jews was bad in German Occupied territories...

JDRock
9th April 2012, 02:11 PM
Fact; "hitler' wasnt german
Fact; "hitler wasnt even ARYAN!
Fact; "hitler wasnt even WHITE!
Fact; "hitlers name wasnt ever hitler!
Fact; "hitler" took a broke nation beyond broke actually and in a few years had bought the most expensive war machine in history (at the time)..and he did it not borrowing a cent from the international bankers! (rolls eyes and walks away....)
fools! stop believing jewish propaganda about the great adolph the jew hater.....he WAS one. So was stalin...so was churchill, so was roosevelt.ww2 was bullshit! the "great war " my ass! really? you call replacing ashkenazi tanks with soviet tanks vicory?? ...STOP calling hitler hitler and call him by hie REAL name SHIKELGRUBER! next thing you know youll be calling carl marx -carl marx! his name was mordechai levy.

FreeEnergy
9th April 2012, 02:26 PM
The deal to found Israel in Palestine was founded after WWI via The Balfour Delcaration. However, the British were tightly regulating immigration and actively setting quotas - very few Jewish individuals were allowed in each year. They had very little intention of ever letting Israel become a full fledged state - at least that is what British actions hint at.

NO, way before that.

Roschhild financed first Israel settlements in late 1800-th, including buying land, bringing first jewish settlers from Czarist Russia. Including bringing top european technologies of water irrigation and wine making.


Baron Edmond de Rothschild’s love of Israel and his strong commitment, both financial and educational, to the early pioneers was one of the main factors which led to the early settlement of the land during the First Aliya in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

Rishon Lezion was, as its name suggests, one of the first settlements to be populated – in 1882 – during the First Aliya wave from Eastern Europe.

Its pioneers were totally unprepared for the agricultural life and lacked even the basic capabilities to make a go of it in the barren, waterless hills of the Yishuv.

So a representative of the group traveled to the Yishuv’s best friend and benefactor, Baron Rothschild, who immediately arranged for students at the nearby Mikve Yisrael Agricultural school to go and train the settlers. He also sent money to support digging for a well and dispatched his own agricultural experts, who declared the land in the area suitable for grape growing and trained some of the pioneers to tend the vineyards.

http://www.jpost.com/Metro/Article.aspx?id=196773


Everything happened not as nicely as it is claimed here. There were a few first settlers, but jews didn't want to farm the desert. Settlers were dying or abandoning the land. Then Rothschilds or early zionist controllers came up with a kibbutz, which is a settlement separated from everything where they sent european jews to work , and they took passports away so noone can escape. even with the land and the technology it took Rothchild close to 50 years to make settlements self-sustaining.

iOWNme
9th April 2012, 02:43 PM
Israel was creted through the United Nations. Rothschild owned enough of the 3rd world countries through fiat debt, that they had more than enough votes when it came time to 'declare' the State of Israel.


FACT.

osoab
9th April 2012, 02:53 PM
Fact; "hitler' wasnt german
Fact; "hitler wasnt even ARYAN!
Fact; "hitler wasnt even WHITE!

fools! stop believing jewish propaganda about the great adolph the jew hater.....he WAS one. So was stalin...so was churchill, so was roosevelt.ww2 was bullshit! the "great war " my ass! really? you call replacing ashkenazi tanks with soviet tanks vicory?? ...STOP calling hitler hitler and call him by hie REAL name SHIKELGRUBER! next thing you know youll be calling carl marx -carl marx! his name was mordechai levy.

If I could give you a "thanks" twice I would.

FreeEnergy
9th April 2012, 02:54 PM
Sui Juris, that is the FACT related to creation of the Izraely STATE. But not the HISTORY.

Before 20th century, there were very little jewish settlers in the Palestinian Land. In fact, close to the same as everywhere else, 5% or less. After Zionists and Rothschilds negotiated the land (after zionists declined Madagascar and a few other places), re-population process has begun.

And I have a book with photographs of Baron Rothschild in the Palestinian land, and a step by step very detailed descriptions of how everything was organized. There also exist his letters to the Russian Czar re. sending jews that "russian czar doesn't need" to the palestinian lands.

It was decided well before United Nations even existed.

Bigjon
9th April 2012, 02:56 PM
The writer, Edwin Black is obviously a staunch hard core Zionist. Who has written a dozen or so books on the holohoax, after he wrote "the transfer agreement". The impression I get after reading his 2009 introduction: http://www.transferagreement.com/index.php?page=10197 is that he is trying to smooth over the actions of the involved Zionists. He even recommends one reads all his other books that he wrote afterwards before reading this one, to "better understand the Zionists of 1933 Germany... I get the impression that he wrote some truths, inadvertently through naivety, in 1984 that he since then has tried his best to sugarcoat...

Still, I wouldn't trust much of the details in " the transfer agreement", after all he was a Zionist then also... But the Big Picture, did Zionists and Hitler sit down at a table in 1933 and negotiate a deal that involved 60.000 Jews going to Palestine, and $100 Million of their assets to go with them (That's about 5 million ounces of gold, or $8 Billion, in today's value)?

Yes! I think that is very likely! Does this mean Hitler was pro-Zionist?

No I don't think so I think it means that he wanted the Jews out of Germany, and especially the first batch of Zionists. Does it mean that the Zionist were prepared to throw the rest of the Jews under the bus, and see who would survive?

Yes, it seems that way, any later agreements to move Jews out of German occupied territories were blocked by Zionists...

Just want to add I don't believe in the Gas Chambers, but life for the Jews was bad in German Occupied territories...

Why don't (won't) you listen to Jim Condit?

He is not a Zionist.

He tells the real story.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&q

iOWNme
9th April 2012, 03:57 PM
Sui Juris, that is the FACT related to creation of the Izraely STATE. But not the HISTORY.

Before 20th century, there were very little jewish settlers in the Palestinian Land. In fact, close to the same as everywhere else, 5% or less. After Zionists and Rothschilds negotiated the land (after zionists declined Madagascar and a few other places), re-population process has begun.

And I have a book with photographs of Baron Rothschild in the Palestinian land, and a step by step very detailed descriptions of how everything was organized. There also exist his letters to the Russian Czar re. sending jews that "russian czar doesn't need" to the palestinian lands.

It was decided well before United Nations even existed.

I totally agree. I was just clarifying in the creation as numerous posters alluded to theories, but nobody mentioned the connections between the Rothschild UN/Rothschild Zionist Banking Cartel to bring it into fruition.

StreetsOfGold
9th April 2012, 04:37 PM
When Hitler was in the army he was assigned an ID number 555. Hitler had a bad arm (like napoleon, another of the proceeding world leaders) and you can see it @ 1:15 and if you're looking in a few other places. Hitler was the 5th attempt at a WORLD leader (as designated by the 555 serial number)

Hitler is a picture of the coming Anti-Christ, the next one will be 666 and after the tribulation, the reigning Jesus Christ the perfect 777
It's all God's plan, nothing you can do about it folks. Man is sinful in a cursed world. Get saved by trusting Jesus Christ as your Saviour, be on the winning side.

Zechariah 11:17 Woe to the worthless shepherd that leaves the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be wholly dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Awoke
9th April 2012, 06:05 PM
Just because I have this file here at arm's length:
This is pre-WWII, but pertinent.





In the year 1918 Germany was showpiece of a Communist, Jew directed revolution. The Red Councils of the republic of Munich was Jewish, as its instigators prove: Liebknecht, Rosa Luxemburg, Kurt Eisner and many others. With the fall of the monarchy the Jews gained control of the country and the German government. With Ministers of State Haase and Landsberg appear Kautsky, Kohn and Herzfeld. The Finance minister was likewise a Jew, had his racial fellow Bernstein as assistant and the minister of the Interior, likewise a Jew, and sought the collaboration of his racial brother, Doctor Freund, who helped him in his work.



Kurt Eisner, the President of the Bavarian Councils Republic, was the instigator of the Bolshevist revolution in Munich.
“Eleven little men made the revolution”, said Kurt Eisner in the intoxication of triumph to his colleague, the Minister Auer. It is no more than right to preserve the unforgettable memory of these little men, who were, in fact, the Jews Max Lowenberg, Doctor Kurt Rosenfeld, Caspar Wollheim, Max Rothschild, Carl Arnold, Kranold, Rosenhek, Birnbaum, Reis and Kaisser. These ten with Kurt Eisner van Israelowitsch led the presidency of the Revolutionary court of Germany. All eleven were Freemasons and belonged to the secret lodge N.° which had its seat in Munich at No. 51 Briennerstrasse.9 (http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/part1.htm#notes#notes)


The first cabinet of Germany in the year 1918 was composed of Jews.


1. Preuss, Minister of the Interior.

2. Freund, Minister of the Interior.

3. Landsberg, Finance Minister.
4. Karl Kautski, Finance Minister.
5. Schiffer, Finance Minister.
6. Eduard Bernstein, secretary of the State Treasury.


7. Fritz Max Cohen, director of the official information service. (This Jew was earlier correspondent of the Jewish “Frankfurter Zeitung”).



The second “German Socialist government” of 1918 was formed of the following Jews:


1. Hirsch, Minister of the Interior.

2. Rosenfeld, Justice Minister.

3. Futran, Minister of education.
4. Arndt, Minister of education.
5. Simon, State secretary of finances.
6. Kastenberg, director of the department of science and art.
7. Strathgen, director of colonial department.
9. Wurm, secretary of food.


10. Merz, Weil, Katzenstein, Stern, Lowenberg, Frankel, Schlesinger, Israelowitz, Selingsohn, Laubenheim, etc., took up high posts in the ministries.



Among the remaining Jews who controlled the sectors vital to life of the German state, which had been defeated through the American intervention in the war, were found in the year 1918, and later:


1. Kohen, President of the German workers and soldiers councils (similar to the Soviet council of soldiers and workers of Moscow in the same year).

2. Ernst, police president of Berlin.

3. Sinzheimer, police president of Frankfurt.
4. Lewy, police president of Hessen.
5. Kurt Eisner, Bavarian state president.
6. Jaffe Bavarian finance minister.
7. Brentano, Industry, trade and transport minister.
8. Talheimer, minister in Württemberg.
9. Heimann, another minister in Württemberg.
10. Fulda, in the government of Hesse.
11. Theodor Wolf, chief editor of the newspaper “Berliner Tageblatt.”
12. Gwiner, director of the “Deutsche Bank”.10 (http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/part1.htm#notes#notes)







And this:




In conclusion let us say something about the origin of the German Jews, whose blond hair and blue eyes stand in contrast to the other types of Jews. Graetz explains the origin of the Jews in South Germany in the following way: “A large number of German soldiers took part with the legions in the destruction of the temple of Jerusalem. Many of them chose from the great number of captives the most beautiful women and took them with them to the banks of the Rhine and Maine. The children of these unions were half Jews and half Germans and were introduced by their mothers to Judaism, for their father raised no objections in this regard.”162 (http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/part4b.htm#notes#notes)

If one reflects that the apparent conversions of the Jews to Christianity began in the German possessions of the Merovingians already at the time of Chilperic and Dagobert I, one will understand, that the “Jewish Fifth Column” in Germany already existed a very remote time ago, and that therefore the Nazis committed the gravest fault when they believed all secret branches of Jewry could be identified through a genealogical investigation of only three generations.


Food for thought.

iOWNme
9th April 2012, 06:45 PM
Why don't (won't) you listen to Jim Condit?

He is not a Zionist.

He tells the real story.



Ive watched it twice now, taking many notes and adding them into my research library. Thanks again for that video!

Jim REALLY sums up the issue with this key analogy @ 27:00 in to the vid you posted:


"What i am suggesting in this video is that Nazism and Zionism are 2 sides of the same program. Just like the Democrat and Republicans."

Horn
9th April 2012, 07:59 PM
your logic is absurd



“The best political weapon is the weapon of terror.

Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear.”

http://thinkexist.com/i/sq/as4.gif Heinrich Himmler quote (http://thinkexist.com/quotation/the_best_political_weapon_is_the_weapon_of_terror/327980.html)

At least 3 character's noses

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ffWowiS1W7w/SxA9EZXlLQI/AAAAAAAABxU/D74V3G2nDZo/s1600/obama_hitler_stalin.jpg

PatColo
10th April 2012, 02:29 AM
I was going to start a thread on Zion Crime Factory - his revisionist view of WW2 rings true with my evolving understanding. Meanwhile, he has this article- he's down on those who paint Hitler as servant of djooz.

The Nazis Gave Rothschild Bankers The Boot (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/05/the-nazis-gave-rothschild-bankers-the-boot/)


edit: oops I see Book posted this ^ in #69 - consider this post seconding that emotion. :)

Check this recent interview with ZCF blogger - 93 mins, commercial free,
ZCF on The Unsolicited Opinion w/ Maggie Roddin (April 09, 2012) (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/09/zcf-on-the-unsolicited-opinion-w-maggie-roddin-april-09-2012/)

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steyr_m
10th April 2012, 10:44 AM
I don't know -- all the Hilter was/wasn't a Jew & Jesus was/wasn't a Jew makes my head hurt....

Horn
10th April 2012, 10:59 AM
edit: oops I see Book posted this ^ in [/B][/I]#69 - consider this post seconding that emotion. :)

If I were a Rothschild, stepping out of the way and letting the competition finance the losers would be good strategy.

I might even setup an investment trap in Hitler for them.

Later than, I might even give their offspring such superficial (and family cursing) posts as President of the U.S.

All in all, I'd have to be flexibly diversified, and fully convertible into weak hands.

Horn
10th April 2012, 11:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgNfhV5I_zc&feature=related

Bigjon
10th April 2012, 11:34 AM
If I were a Rothschild, stepping out of the way and letting the competition finance the losers would be good strategy.

I might even setup an investment trap in Hitler for them.

Later than, I might even give their offspring such superficial (and family cursing) posts as President of the U.S.

All in all, I'd have to be flexibly diversified, and fully convertible into weak hands.

Yes, a brilliant strategy, let the German's, who you know are going to be the losers, self finance their own demise. Then there is no need to worry about reparations. The Jews took their money out of Germany and put on a sad face about German's abandoning the Jewish money system.

Norweger
10th April 2012, 11:44 AM
I don't know -- all the Hilter was/wasn't a Jew & Jesus was/wasn't a Jew makes my head hurt....

They do this with their most outspoken enemies. Hitler, Jesus and Bobby Fischer (pbut) are examples of this.

Neuro
10th April 2012, 12:06 PM
Why don't (won't) you listen to Jim Condit?

He is not a Zionist.

He tells the real story.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&q
I tried, but google video doesn't work on my iPod, however I started looking at the YouTube version, but my Internet is very slow. I've watched the first 15 minutes during the last hour. Very slow progression of his argument I must say which is irritating since downloading is slow. He may not be Zionist, but Jim Condit Jr does look Jewish to me... I'll continue to watch though...

steyr_m
10th April 2012, 12:21 PM
They do this with their most outspoken enemies. Hitler, Jesus and Bobby Fischer (pbut) are examples of this.

Good point...

iOWNme
10th April 2012, 12:53 PM
I tried, but google video doesn't work on my iPod, however I started looking at the YouTube version, but my Internet is very slow. I've watched the first 15 minutes during the last hour. Very slow progression of his argument I must say which is irritating since downloading is slow. He may not be Zionist, but Jim Condit Jr does look Jewish to me... I'll continue to watch though...

Around 20 min or so is when he gets to the meat....But it slow. Afterall, he is merely pointing you towards a TON of research others have done for close to 70 years...I have went and verified almost every single thing he talks about. Its all there. MANY books have been written on this subject.

hoarder
10th April 2012, 01:11 PM
They do this with their most outspoken enemies. Hitler, Jesus and Bobby Fischer (pbut) are examples of this.Khazars don't just do things because they do them. They do things because they're strategic.

Suppose we make a list of reasons why it's strategic for them to say Hitler was a Jew......and another list of reasons why it's not strategic for the goyim to believe Shickelgruber was a Khazar.

That's really the best indication of what they do. Ask yourself what is strategic.

Horn
10th April 2012, 03:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frf9GS0g9YM

Horn
10th April 2012, 05:18 PM
Hitler left the Bunker at 3.50 pm 30 April 1945 and hid in the bulkhead passage until 8 pm.
Martin Bormann left the bunker at 8.40 pm 1 May 1945.

Operation James Bond rescued Bormann by kayak.
Operation Winnie the Pooh rescued Hitler by submarine, plane, then boat, then plane.
Op James Bond was originally captained by Ian Fleming.

Fleming left Op James Bond at 9.50 pm on 1 May 1945 and moved over to Op Winnie the Pooh, leaving Chris Creighton in command.
Chris Creighton then captained Op James Bond and rescued Bormann. They paddled down stream at night and camped during the day at Wannsee near Pfaueninsel Island (Peacocks Island). They left by night again on 2 May 1945.
The two operations happened concurrently.

Op Winnie the Pooh was kept secret from the team because Anthony Blunt was part of the team, but refused to attend training. He was King George V's illegitimate son, and he was a Russian spy. The Russians wanted to take Berlin and Hitler.
Bormann was the Chancellor and had the money.

Hitler was the former Fuhrer who had the Swiss bank account numbers and larger secrets, some of them NAZI secret military.
Bormann went to England.
Hitler went to Spain.
Hitler got out through the locks (the locks close off the water to the Upper River Spree).
The tunnels, between the upper and lower locks, were being used as a Red Cross Hospital. The lower locks were closed, the upper locks were opened and everyone was drowned on 28 April 1945.

The upper locks were then closed at 6 pm 29 April 1945 and the lower locks were opened partially draining the water and flooding the River Spree with bodies, which covered Hitler's scout party floating down the River Spree and breathing through snorkels. They got word back that it could be done . . . then Hitler and Eva left the bunker at 3.50 pm on 30 April 1945 and hid in the bulkhead passage and locked themselves in until 8 pm.

The lower lock was fully opened at 10.30 pm releasing more bodies which helped hide the mini-sub when it got to crucial areas further down stream.
At 11 pm on 30 April 1945, the Hitlers (Adolf and Eva) and aides, kayaked through the tunnels to the open lower lock, and got into a WK202 mini-submarine (36.5m long) at 11.30 pm, submerged at 11.40 pm, and waited.

Just as the night sky was lit by flares from battles over the top of them from either bank at 11.55 pm 30 April 1945, they motored out into the current.
Five Hitler body doubles were then shot with state sanctioned 10.5 mm bullets on top of the bunker at 1.00 am 1 May 1945. Another Hitler body double had been killed down below, carried up outside and burnt 10 hours earlier. This one is commonly referred to as 'the daed Hitler'.

Hitler waited a day-and-a-half in the min-sub in Lake Havel under the shadow of Schwanenwerder Peninsula when Hanna Reitsch landed a Junkers JU52/3m g14e on Lake Havel at 4.15 pm 2 May 1945, opened her flaps and lowered the ladder. The mini-sub then rose up underneath the Junkers.


Hitler and Eva nee Braun Hitler climbed up the conning tower of the WK202 mini-sub, onto the ladder, and into the plane, protected from any stray bullets by the flaps. They left the lake at 4.24 pm 2 May 1945.

They flew 15 minutes east of Berlin to Lake Muggelsee (31 km in a direct line) and were met by former Op JB Commander Ian Fleming in an acquired motor launch, and dressed as a Russian Officer, having left Op JB about 19 hours prior.


Hitler gave Fleming the papers, then got into the launch and drove to the shore. Fleming only ever referred to Adolf and Eva Hitler as 'Mr Rabbit' and 'Mrs Rabbit'.


They got in a Westland Lysander IIIA, Serial No. V9673 flown by Hugh Verity DSO DFC who had been waiting for 14 hours, since 2 am, 2 May 1945. The plane had been covered with branches.

Ian Fleming had placed a time-release bomb on the launch and soon after they lifted off, the motor launch exploded. This is the origin of the James Bond books and films - leaving with the woman and everything exploding behind them. Hitler was the original James Bond character.


Hanna Reitsch in her Junkers JU52/3m g14e flew with the Lysander, both of them to just outside Barcelona, Spain, arriving around 3 am where they were met by Ramon Serrano Suner.
Hanna Reitsch then returned to Germany three days later and gave a dressing down from Hitler to some of his key players.


http://www.henrymakow.com/_from_an_email_from.html

Horn
10th April 2012, 05:46 PM
Before Barbarossa 1941

2617

osoab
11th April 2012, 07:03 AM
The below is from Mae Brussell's site. http://www.maebrussell.com/index.html

I have listened to some of her old radio shows.
Pretty good info from way back when.



...............
http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Mind%20of%20Adolf%20Hitler.html
An excerpt from the book The Mind of Adolf Hitler The Secret Wartime Report by Walter C. Langer
Basic Books Inc. - 1972, hard cover
Front cover (photo) (http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Mind%20of%20Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20front%20cover.html)
Dust cover flap (photo) (http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Mind%20of%20Adolf%20Hitler%20-%20cover%20flap.html)
from pages 111 - 113
The Hitler Family
FATHER
There is a great deal of confusion in studying Hitler's family tree. Much of this is due to the fact that the name has been spelled in various ways: Hitler, Hidler, Hiedler, and Huettler. It seems reasonable to suppose, however, that it is fundamentally the same name spelled in various ways by different members of what was basically an illiterate peasant family. Adolf Hitler himself signed his name Hittler on the first Party membership blanks, and his sister usually spells her name as Hiedler. Another element of confusion is introduced by the fact that Adolf's mother's mother was also named Hitler, which later became the family name of his father. Some of this confusion is dissipated, however, when we realize that Adolf's parents had a common ancestor (father's grandfather and mother's great-grandfather), an inhabitant of the culturally backward Waldviertel district of Austria.

Adolf's father, Alois (http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Alois%20Schicklgruber.html) Hitler, was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber (http://www.maebrussell.com/The%20Warren%20Commission/Warren%20Commission%20exhibits%20106%20and%20107.h tml). It is generally supposed that the father of Alois Hitler was a Johann Georg Hiedler, a miller's assistant. Alois, however, was not legitimized, and he bore his mother's name until he was forty years of age when he changed it to Hitler. Just why this was done is not clear, but it is generally said among the villagers that it was necessary in order to obtain a legacy. Where the legacy came from is unknown. One could suppose that Johann Georg Hiedler relented on his deathbed and left an inheritance to his illegitimate son together with his name. It seems strange, however, that he did not legitimize the son when he married Anna Schicklgruber thirty-five years earlier. Why the son chose to take the name Hitler instead of Hiedler, if this is the case, is also a mystery that has remained unsolved. Unfortunately, the date of the death of Hiedler has not been established, and consequently we are unable to relate these two events in time. A peculiar series of events, prior to Hitler's birth, furnishes plenty of food for speculation.

There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that Chancellor Dollfuss had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved that Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived. At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where Alois was born. If it is true that one of the Rothschilds is the real father of Alois Hitler, it would make Adolf a quarter Jew. According to these sources, Adolf Hitler knew of the existence of this document and the incriminating evidence it contained. In order to obtain it he precipitated events in Austria and initiated the assassination of Dollfuss. According to this story, he failed to obtain the document at that time since Dollfuss had secreted it and had told Schuschnigg of its whereabouts so that in the event of his death the independence of Austria would remain assured. Several stories of this general character are in circulation.

Those who lend credence to this story point out several factors that seem to favor its plausibility.

1. That it is unlikely that the miller's assistant in a small village in this district would have very much to leave in the form of a legacy.

2. That it is strange that Johann Hiedler should not claim the boy until thirty-five years after he had married the mother and the mother had died.

3. That if the legacy were left by Hiedler on the condition that Alois take his name, it would not have been possible for him to change it to Hitler.

4. That the intelligence and behavior of Alois, as well as that of his two sons, is completely out of keeping with that usually found in Austrian peasant families. They point out that their ambitiousness and extraordinary political intuition are much more in harmony with the Rothschild tradition.

5. That Alois Schicklgruber left his home village at an early age to seek his fortune in Vienna where his mother had worked.

6. That it would be peculiar for Alois Hitler, while working as a customs official in Braunau, to choose a Jew named Print, of Vienna, to act as Adolf's godfather unless he felt some kinship with the Jews himself.

This is certainly a very intriguing hypothesis, and much of Adolf's later behavior could be explained in rather easy terms on this basis. However, it is not absolutely necessary to assume that he has Jewish blood in his veins in order to make a comprehensive picture of his character with its manifold traits and sentiments. From a purely scientifc point of view, therefore, it is sounder not to base our reconstruction on such slim evidence but to seek firmer foundations. Nevertheless, we can leave it as a possibility that requires further verification.
In any event Maria Anna Schicklgruber died when Alois was five years of age.

When he was thirteen he left the Waldviertel and went to Vienna where he learned to be a cobbler. The next twenty-three years of his life are largely unaccounted for. It seems probable that during this time he joined the army and had perhaps been advanced to the rank of noncommissioned officer. His service in the army may have helped him to enter the Civil Service as Zollamtsoffizial later on.

JDRock
11th April 2012, 09:17 AM
indeed osab...how does one bring a bankrupt nation into the pre-eminent world power in a few years without the blessing and help of the international banking cartel?? and they do NOTHING that rothschild has not agreed to.

Neuro
11th April 2012, 10:54 AM
indeed osab...how does one bring a bankrupt nation into the pre-eminent world power in a few years without the blessing and help of the international banking cartel?? and they do NOTHING that rothschild has not agreed to.
I had the impression that Germany under Hitler refused to pay the unfair WWI reparations, and then they started issuing money without interest paying for public works and armaments. All outside the international banking cartel. In fact I don't think they would have experienced any recovery if their Central Bank had remained under the constraints of the international banking cartel...

Horn
11th April 2012, 11:09 AM
In fact I don't think they would have experienced any recovery if their Central Bank had remained under the constraints of the international banking cartel...

Must have seemed a gold mine to what large individual investors saw at the time.

If not in it for the money, than the glory.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
11th April 2012, 01:06 PM
I had the impression that Germany under Hitler refused to pay the unfair WWI reparations, and then they started issuing money without interest paying for public works and armaments. All outside the international banking cartel. In fact I don't think they would have experienced any recovery if their Central Bank had remained under the constraints of the international banking cartel...

This is correct. Part of Hitler's rise to power was publicly stating that the treaty of Versailles was unfair to Germany. He did revolutionize currency his in country, which was clearly wrecked after the Weimar Republic Inflation Debacle.

However, lots of TPTB helped him. IG FARBEN invested a lot, so did hundreds of other companies, I am surprised nobody has mentioned Prescott Bush yet. Bush was heavily involved in financing Hitler's industrialization plans, gave him orders for hundreds of tons of steel, oil, other supplies.

Bigjon
11th April 2012, 01:48 PM
I had the impression that Germany under Hitler refused to pay the unfair WWI reparations, and then they started issuing money without interest paying for public works and armaments. All outside the international banking cartel. In fact I don't think they would have experienced any recovery if their Central Bank had remained under the constraints of the international banking cartel...

This would have been great for Germans and Germany, IF (the big if) he had turned inward and used that money to revive industry for peaceful purposes.

That, we all know, is not what he did, the Jews wanted war and Hitler gave them everything they wanted.

iOWNme
11th April 2012, 03:34 PM
Just came across this while researching....

This is Josef Mengele the famous 'Angel of Death'. This criminal was at the very top of the Eugenicist known as the 'Nazi' regime. You know, those guys who hated ALL Jews......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fc/Josef_Mengele.jpg


Mengele used Auschwitz as an opportunity to continue his research on heredity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heredity), using inmates for human experimentation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_experimentation). He was particularly interested in identical twins (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identical_twins); they would be selected and placed in special barracks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barracks). He recruited Berthold Epstein, a Jewish pediatrician, and Miklós Nyiszli, a Hungarianpathologist, to assist with his experiments.

iOWNme
14th April 2012, 06:40 AM
I found this book on scribd, can someone download it and post the pdf here?

The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi Germany 1933-1941
By: Klaus Polkehn

http://www.scribd.com/doc/36450802/Polkehn-Klaus-The-Secret-Contacts-Zionism-and-Nazi-Germany-1933-1941-Journal-of-Palestine-Studies-Vol-5-No-3-4-1976-pp-54-82

learn2swim
14th April 2012, 08:17 AM
Zionism was just part of the process of creating a Jewish homeland that has been going on for a very long time. The history of the Jews being expelled from European countries was part of the process too. Jewish leaders didn't want Jews assimilating into those countries, so they were behind the antisemitism promotion, and welcomed the Jewish expulsion from those countries. Jews in response to this would "stick" together like any group coming under attack. This played into the hands of the Jewish leaders who created Zionism centuries later. The Nazis rise to power was the "Pearl Harbor" needed to create Israel.

Barbaro
14th April 2012, 09:32 AM
Chiming in late, thanks for OP.

I've always found Hitler interesting. I'm no expert nor scholar on him. But I think people are taught to hate him.

After WWI, Germany was bound to go extreme, and it did.

Lots of hypotheticals....wonder if....UK did not declare war and Germany only had a 1 front - Eastern front war?

learn2swim
14th April 2012, 01:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OJlUAyYi4s4

Neuro
14th April 2012, 01:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OJlUAyYi4s4

Great video, but I would appreciate if those who post a video, tells something about it, I and a few others don't get the video in the post, but have to quote from the thread, copy the link and start a new page, so it helps to know whether it is something of value...

This video is about what Gandhi wrote to his friend Adolf Hitler, would suffice...

Norweger
14th April 2012, 01:41 PM
indeed osab...how does one bring a bankrupt nation into the pre-eminent world power in a few years without the blessing and help of the international banking cartel??

You kick out the jews and issue debt-free currency.

osoab
14th April 2012, 01:46 PM
You kick out the jews and issue debt-free currency.

With a World War to boot! ::)

Norweger
14th April 2012, 02:05 PM
With a World War to boot! ::)

That was the reaction from the parasites yes. Hitler didn't start the war.

osoab
14th April 2012, 02:06 PM
That was the reaction from the parasites yes. Hitler didn't start the war.

So the invasion of Poland, France, et al was a fabrication?

Norweger
14th April 2012, 02:07 PM
Polish Atrocities

Against the German Minority in Poland.

GERMANS: ABUSED MINORITY!

An odd concept you may have never heard of. But it happened.

Atrocity photos you'll never see on the History Channel.



"Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to." (Polish Marshal Rydz-Smigly as reported in the Daily Mail, August 6th, 1939)

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/rydz-smigly.jpg

The historical record, as represented by the German government at the time, on Bromberg "Bloody Sunday" and related incidents -- 58,000 claimed dead or missing by Feb 1940.* The German invasion was Sep 1939, but it's important to understand that many of the outrages had preceded the German invasion. This was proved by the amount of decomposition of the bodies. Thus, these atrocities cannot be excused simply as reprisals for the German invasion (which would be wrong anyway). They included 19 year-old girls with their faces smashed, amputations, disembowelments, shot thru' the eye, death-trauma births, you name it. Poles had been merrily slaughtering anything or anybody German since at least as early as April 1939, with smaller incidents stretching back to the close of WW I -- you haven't been told that by the Mass Media, or the fact that these atrocities were one of the main causes for the German invasion of Poland, something that was meant by the Germans to be a local solution to a local problem. Germany had already done the "right thing" by protesting in writing to the League of Nations literally dozens of times. The League of Nations did nothing, yet the problem had to be solved. [Photo at left: Polski marshal Rydz-Smigly, burdened with the weight of numerous medals. As soon as his army started to lose, this bragging Polish "warrior" ran away to Romania, leaving his troops in a lurch! Yet to this day, no opprobrium is cast his way by the establishment media. Why not?]

Subsequent to the German invasion, Britain declared war on Germany, yet after the Soviet Union invaded the eastern Polish territory only a few weeks later, Britain neglected to declare war on the Soviet Union. Why not, if the integrity of Poland's borders was so important? Inquiring minds want to know. After using these incidents as obvious pretext (the real purpose being to take down Germany as an economic rival and arch anti-NWO force), Britain then began bombing the Ruhr Valley the day after Churchill took office (May 10, 1940), specifically targeting civilian areas in addition to industrial and military targets. The rest is history -- a shameful and gut-wrenching one.

On Bromberg Bloody Sunday, thousands of ethnic Germans were slaughtered like pigs in an alley because the majority "poles" (the "slavic", non-Teutonic types, really Turco-Ugaric, Hunnic, Tartar and Mongoloid residue from the old "Dark Age" invasions) knew they could do so with total impunity. Marshal Pilsudski had died, and Britain's leaders had made unconditional guarantees to Poland as a pretense to ensure maximum political tensions in Eastern Europe to serve the interests of Soviet Russia. Poles in official capacity were openly laying claim to ancient German territory, were engaging in the crudest pea-brained saber-rattling, had engaged in border violations and boasted of marching thru' the gates of Berlin in 3 weeks (or days, depending on which buzzing brain was indulging in the fantasy). Poland had even stolen a chunk of "Czechoslovak" territory (Teschen) in March 1939.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

Norweger
14th April 2012, 02:07 PM
So the invasion of Poland, France, et al was a fabrication?

Read post above.

Horn
14th April 2012, 02:44 PM
The Nazis rise to power was the "Pearl Harbor" needed to create Israel.

Hitler was like the atom bomb of Jewish proliferation.

He was working in Poland long before invasion with them to justify it.




One must understand that there is a common Babylonian core to Talmudism,Jesuitism, Catholicism, Freemasonry, Communism, Nazism, and Zionism. They are allfrom Babylon and they are all antichrist. That is why Babylon the Great is called theMother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth.

54.Zionist Nazis

The assimilation by the Jews into the Roman religion has been accomplished throughchanging their names and converting to Catholicism. They, however, have kept their Talmudicand Cabalistic traditions, they are crypto-Jews. These Talmudic crypto-Jews gravitated towardthe power in Rome. The barbarity and duplicity of these Jews can be seen in their conspiratorialand murderous actions during World War II. Heinrich Himmler, Joseph Goebbels, and AdolphHitler were all of Jewish extraction. They were also Roman Catholic. Himmler modeled the SSafter the crypto-Jewish Jesuit order. Walter Schellenberg, former chief of German counter-espionage ( Sicherheisdienst
or SD), explained after the war:The SS organisation (sic) had been constituted, by Himmler, according to the principles of the Jesuits’ Order. Their regulations and the Spiritual Exercises prescribed by Ignatius of Loyola were the model Himmler tried to copy exactly.
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Adolph Hitler said: “I can see Himmler as our Ignatius of Loyola.” Keep in mind that
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Himmler was the “Reichsfuhrer SS” (Supreme Chief of the SS). That title was intended to be theequivalent of the Jesuits’ “General.” Himmler was also in charge of the German secret police,
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known as the Gestapo. The Jesuit General, Count Halke von Ledochowski, arranged for aspecial unit within the SS Central Security Service where most of the main posts were held byRoman Catholic priests wearing the black shirt SS uniforms. The head of this special unit wasHeinrich Himmler’s uncle, who was a Jesuit priest.
72http://www.scribd.com/doc/88318422/55/Zionist-Nazis

iOWNme
15th April 2012, 05:50 AM
I found this book on scribd, can someone download it and post the pdf here?

The Secret Contacts: Zionism and Nazi Germany 1933-1941
By: Klaus Polkehn

http://www.scribd.com/doc/36450802/Polkehn-Klaus-The-Secret-Contacts-Zionism-and-Nazi-Germany-1933-1941-Journal-of-Palestine-Studies-Vol-5-No-3-4-1976-pp-54-82


Anyone?

Awoke
16th April 2012, 05:37 AM
Sorry bro, scribd is a blocked site here.

For anyone who has the time, you can DL the file and then UL it to www.yousendit.com (http://www.yousendit.com) and they will host the file for 7 days for free. It will give you a link and you can post the link here, and anyone here can DL. Your anonymity is safe too, doing it that way.

PatColo
19th April 2012, 08:56 AM
from ZionCrimeFactory - I wish I could trust MCPiper, but his silly vendetta against Chris Bollyn has Piper in the cloud of suspicion. Bollyn's expose on AFP was pretty damning too, see:
Thread: Bollyn on DBS, Hufschmid, Piper, Thorn, CIA (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA)



Michael Collins Piper Demolishes Kosher Anti-Hitler Myths (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/17/michael-collins-piper-demolishes-kosher-anti-hitler-myths/)

Posted on April 17, 2012 (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/17/michael-collins-piper-demolishes-kosher-anti-hitler-myths/) by ZionCrimeFactory (http://zioncrimefactory.com/author/admin/)
http://zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MCP-The-New-Babylon.jpg (http://zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MCP-The-New-Babylon.jpg)
Prolific writer and author, Michael Collins Piper (http://mikepiperreport.com/), demolished the mindless myths perpetuated about Hitler being an agent of Zionism and “Jewish bankers” in his outstanding book The New Babylon: Those Who Reign Supreme — A Panoramic Overview Of The Historical, Religious And Economic Origins Of The New World Order (http://www.amfirstbooks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=54) (pp. 88-90):
“For the moment however, we must make a critical digression, to explore the much-discussed relationship between Nazi Germany and the Zionist movement. This has been the subject of so much misinformation and deliberate disinformation, much of it spread by well-meaning folks who don’t understand the “big picture.”

While there are those who have correctly pointed out that–during the early years of the Nazi regime of Adolf Hitler–the German government actually collaborated with elements of the Zionist movement in Germany and elsewhere, this point has been largely misunderstood and misconstrued. Some more naive and excitable folks have declared this to be proof that “Hitler was a Zionist” and that the entire purpose of the creation of the Third Reich was setting in place the Holocaust so that a Zionist state could emerge from the ashes of the dead. This is quite a lively thesis, but one which essentially relies on a lot of imagination coupled with a fantastic and fanciful dependence upon a wide variety of forces and events–not necessarily connected–falling into place in order to achieve the final goal: a Zionist state.

While the National Socialist regime in Germany did initially form some loose collaborative efforts with Zionists in Europe and Palestine, seeing this as an ideal way to convince and persuade Jews to leave Europe, these ties disintegrated as the Germans recognized, during wartime, that collaboration with anti-Zionist Arabs in North Africa and the Middle East was far more productive for German goals. So while there is truth that the Germans did collaborate with the Zionists, the matter has been largely overstated by persons who are unwilling or simply incapable of looking at the much-larger–and far more important–geopolitical picture.

Let it also be said that many of those who have adopted the stance that “Hitler was a Zionist” often tend to be individuals–however well-meaning they may be–who use that term to “prove” that they aren’t “anti-Semitic,” as if to say, “Well, even though I’m a critic of Israel, I’m not ‘like Hitler’ since, after all, it was Hitler who helped bring about the state of Israel.”

Those who tout this line fail to understand that the Jewish Power Elite and the Zionist movement scoff at this stance and consider anyone who even flirts with this theory to be just as bad as those others who are outright, open critics of Israel, Zionism and the Jewish agenda.

The most responsible studies of German-Zionist collaboration can be found in the work of Lenni Brenner, an Orthodox Jewish-born american Marxist, whose Zionism in the Age of Dictators and his later volume, 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis correctly put the matter in context. This has stopped sensationalists from twisting the truth.

There is also the legend that “The Jewish bankers” or “The Zionist bankers” (used often interchangeably) financed Hitler. Not true. James Pool, in his authortative work, Who Financed Hitler?, demonstrates quite to the contrary.

In one instance, a Jewish financier in Germany did give money to the Nazi Party–prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler–but those funds were designed to help Hitler’s intra-party opposition to stop Hitler. But despite this fact, some “patriots” still say that “The Jews Backed Hitler.”

Many of those who worship at the altar of this nonsense cite a flagrantly-fraudulent document of shadowy origins entitled Hitler’s Secret Bankers, ostensibly written by one “Sidney Warburg,” one of those “Jewish bankers.” But this document, as we’ve said, is a fraud.

The late Dr. Anthony Sutton’s Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler has promoted this theory, based in part on the Warburg travesty and has given further institutionalization to this mythology–truth be damned.

American banks and corporations did work with the Hitler regime, usually a continuation of previous financial arrangements going back decades, but this was not part of any grand conspiracy to bring Hitler to power. The claim that the Bush family was integral to the rise of Hitler is another myth. Kevin Phillips–no admirer of the Bush dynasty–examines the actual circumstances surrounding the Bush-Hitler scenario in his book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush and puts the facts in proper perspective.

Another nonsensical claim–that Hitler and most of the top Nazis were actually Jews or part Jewish–has its primary origin in a virtually impenetrable and quite bizarre work entitled Adolf Hitler: Founder of Israel.

Sadly, in the age of the Internet, this volume, which most of those who quote it have never actually read, has been widely touted, even by a handful of otherwise responsible souls who want to believe, it appears, that Hitler was part of “the Jewish conspiracy.”

A talented American writer, Martin Kerr, has written an authoritative study, “The Myth of Hitler’s Jewish Grandfather,” which can be found on the Internet, which examines all of the theories and meanderings on this topic and lays the theory to rest. But, again, that doesn’t stop the sensationalists from saying “it must be true: Hitler was a Jew and a Zionist.”

While all of this has been a distinct digression, it’s been a necessary one, precisely because there is so much misinformation and deliberate disinformation regarding the relationship between Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and the Zionist and Jewish agenda that has littered the Internet and published works throughout the last half century.

So, unfortunately, in order to bring history into accord with the facts, it is critical to address the nonsense.”
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JDRock
19th April 2012, 09:45 AM
explain to my WHY ashkenazi ism took as its CHIEF philosopher alfred rosenberg!...i guess "hitler' was too busy chasing jews to take notice of this guy in his cabinet.....eye roll......i guess he never did actually execute ANY high ranking jew bankers either...rolls eyes again...too busy hating jews again huh?...oh, and the clever way he firsy killed then buried himself!...and tell me WHY havent the jews EVER bothered to look for him??

iOWNme
19th April 2012, 09:46 AM
from ZionCrimeFactory - I wish I could trust MCPiper, but his silly vendetta against Chris Bollyn has Piper in the cloud of suspicion. Bollyn's expose on AFP was pretty damning too, see:
Thread: Bollyn on DBS, Hufschmid, Piper, Thorn, CIA (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?26690-Bollyn-on-DBS-Hufschmid-Piper-Thorn-CIA)



Michael Collins Piper Demolishes Kosher Anti-Hitler Myths (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/17/michael-collins-piper-demolishes-kosher-anti-hitler-myths/)

Posted on April 17, 2012 (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/17/michael-collins-piper-demolishes-kosher-anti-hitler-myths/) by ZionCrimeFactory (http://zioncrimefactory.com/author/admin/)
http://zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MCP-The-New-Babylon.jpg (http://zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MCP-The-New-Babylon.jpg)
Prolific writer and author, Michael Collins Piper (http://mikepiperreport.com/), demolished the mindless myths perpetuated about Hitler being an agent of Zionism and “Jewish bankers” in his outstanding book The New Babylon: Those Who Reign Supreme — A Panoramic Overview Of The Historical, Religious And Economic Origins Of The New World Order (http://www.amfirstbooks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=54) (pp. 88-90):
“For the moment however, we must make a critical digression, to explore the much-discussed relationship between Nazi Germany and the Zionist movement. This has been the subject of so much misinformation and deliberate disinformation, much of it spread by well-meaning folks who don’t understand the “big picture.”

While there are those who have correctly pointed out that–during the early years of the Nazi regime of Adolf Hitler–the German government actually collaborated with elements of the Zionist movement in Germany and elsewhere, this point has been largely misunderstood and misconstrued. Some more naive and excitable folks have declared this to be proof that “Hitler was a Zionist” and that the entire purpose of the creation of the Third Reich was setting in place the Holocaust so that a Zionist state could emerge from the ashes of the dead. This is quite a lively thesis, but one which essentially relies on a lot of imagination coupled with a fantastic and fanciful dependence upon a wide variety of forces and events–not necessarily connected–falling into place in order to achieve the final goal: a Zionist state.

While the National Socialist regime in Germany did initially form some loose collaborative efforts with Zionists in Europe and Palestine, seeing this as an ideal way to convince and persuade Jews to leave Europe, these ties disintegrated as the Germans recognized, during wartime, that collaboration with anti-Zionist Arabs in North Africa and the Middle East was far more productive for German goals. So while there is truth that the Germans did collaborate with the Zionists, the matter has been largely overstated by persons who are unwilling or simply incapable of looking at the much-larger–and far more important–geopolitical picture.

Let it also be said that many of those who have adopted the stance that “Hitler was a Zionist” often tend to be individuals–however well-meaning they may be–who use that term to “prove” that they aren’t “anti-Semitic,” as if to say, “Well, even though I’m a critic of Israel, I’m not ‘like Hitler’ since, after all, it was Hitler who helped bring about the state of Israel.”

Those who tout this line fail to understand that the Jewish Power Elite and the Zionist movement scoff at this stance and consider anyone who even flirts with this theory to be just as bad as those others who are outright, open critics of Israel, Zionism and the Jewish agenda.

The most responsible studies of German-Zionist collaboration can be found in the work of Lenni Brenner, an Orthodox Jewish-born american Marxist, whose Zionism in the Age of Dictators and his later volume, 51 Documents: Zionist Collaboration With The Nazis correctly put the matter in context. This has stopped sensationalists from twisting the truth.

There is also the legend that “The Jewish bankers” or “The Zionist bankers” (used often interchangeably) financed Hitler. Not true. James Pool, in his authortative work, Who Financed Hitler?, demonstrates quite to the contrary.

In one instance, a Jewish financier in Germany did give money to the Nazi Party–prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler–but those funds were designed to help Hitler’s intra-party opposition to stop Hitler. But despite this fact, some “patriots” still say that “The Jews Backed Hitler.”

Many of those who worship at the altar of this nonsense cite a flagrantly-fraudulent document of shadowy origins entitled Hitler’s Secret Bankers, ostensibly written by one “Sidney Warburg,” one of those “Jewish bankers.” But this document, as we’ve said, is a fraud.

The late Dr. Anthony Sutton’s Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler has promoted this theory, based in part on the Warburg travesty and has given further institutionalization to this mythology–truth be damned.

American banks and corporations did work with the Hitler regime, usually a continuation of previous financial arrangements going back decades, but this was not part of any grand conspiracy to bring Hitler to power. The claim that the Bush family was integral to the rise of Hitler is another myth. Kevin Phillips–no admirer of the Bush dynasty–examines the actual circumstances surrounding the Bush-Hitler scenario in his book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush and puts the facts in proper perspective.

Another nonsensical claim–that Hitler and most of the top Nazis were actually Jews or part Jewish–has its primary origin in a virtually impenetrable and quite bizarre work entitled Adolf Hitler: Founder of Israel.

Sadly, in the age of the Internet, this volume, which most of those who quote it have never actually read, has been widely touted, even by a handful of otherwise responsible souls who want to believe, it appears, that Hitler was part of “the Jewish conspiracy.”

A talented American writer, Martin Kerr, has written an authoritative study, “The Myth of Hitler’s Jewish Grandfather,” which can be found on the Internet, which examines all of the theories and meanderings on this topic and lays the theory to rest. But, again, that doesn’t stop the sensationalists from saying “it must be true: Hitler was a Jew and a Zionist.”

While all of this has been a distinct digression, it’s been a necessary one, precisely because there is so much misinformation and deliberate disinformation regarding the relationship between Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and the Zionist and Jewish agenda that has littered the Internet and published works throughout the last half century.

So, unfortunately, in order to bring history into accord with the facts, it is critical to address the nonsense.”
Posted in Real History (http://zioncrimefactory.com/category/real-history/) | Tagged adolf hitler (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/adolf-hitler/), Disinformation (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/disinformation/), europe (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/europe/), Jewish Bankers (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/jewish-bankers/), Jews (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/jews/), michael collins piper (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/michael-collins-piper/), Nazi Germany (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/nazi-germany/), NSDAP (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/nsdap/), WW2 (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/ww2/), Zionists (http://zioncrimefactory.com/tag/zionists/) | 2 Comments (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/17/michael-collins-piper-demolishes-kosher-anti-hitler-myths/#comments)

Interesting that he never mentions the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Wilhelm_Institute_of_Anthropology,_Human_He redity,_and_Eugenics) which was funded by the Rothschild's.

And again, i bring up the size of the Nazi Military at that time, and the amount of oil they would have needed to run it. Did Germany manufacture and refine their own oil? NO. Who owned all of the oil refineries at that time? Rothschild.

And so i guess Anthony Suttons book 'Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler' (http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/) was just a bunch of Hog Wash.... LOL

BULLSHIT!

JDRock
19th April 2012, 09:53 AM
Fact; "hitler' wasnt german
Fact; "hitler wasnt even ARYAN!
Fact; "hitler wasnt even WHITE!
Fact; "hitlers name wasnt ever hitler!
Fact; "hitler" took a broke nation beyond broke actually and in a few years had bought the most expensive war machine in history (at the time)..and he did it not borrowing a cent from the international bankers! (rolls eyes and walks away....)
fools! stop believing jewish propaganda about the great adolph the jew hater.....he WAS one. So was stalin...so was churchill, so was roosevelt.ww2 was bullshit! the "great war " my ass! really? you call replacing ashkenazi tanks with soviet tanks vicory?? ...STOP calling hitler hitler and call him by hie REAL name SHIKELGRUBER! next thing you know youll be calling carl marx -carl marx! his name was mordechai levy.
jus sayin.....

mightymanx
21st April 2012, 10:44 PM
Another secret video unearthed


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UKot0qIFb4&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UKot0qIFb4&feature=player_embedded

mightymanx
21st April 2012, 11:16 PM
http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxejtu8SWf1qanb21o1_500.jpg

PatColo
30th April 2012, 08:46 AM
I see Rense has these couple articles posted, though they were published last year,

Ingrid Rimland

Hitler And The Banksters (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/13/hitler-and-the-banksters-the-abolition-of-interest-servitude/)

Rudolf Hess - What Secret Did He Take To The Grave? (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/13/130485/)


Hitler and the Banksters: The Abolition of Interest-Servitude (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/13/hitler-and-the-banksters-the-abolition-of-interest-servitude/)

by Dr. Ingrid Rimland Zundel (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/zundel/)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hitler_and_mussolini_june_1940.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hitler_and_mussolini_june_1940.jpg)

This article was written for mature and thoughtful people who want to understand today in light of yesterday. It was not written for baboons who start to howl the moment they hear “Hitler” – the way the monkeys of my youth used to howl in front of my window in South America when they heard a thunderclap.

Its author is a relatively young South African banker by the name of Stephen Goodson. I have his permission to post it.
[...]
Notwithstanding the inability of Adolf Hitler to permanently liberate Europe, it behooves us to appreciate that what he achieved was not done in vain. It is incumbent on us to learn and understand the fundamentals of usury and to spread that knowledge relentlessly, until our material and spiritual liberties have been restored.


entire article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/13/hitler-and-the-banksters-the-abolition-of-interest-servitude/




Rudolf Hess: The Führer’s Deputy (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/13/130485/)



What secret did he take to the grave?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/RudolfHess.jpeg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/RudolfHess.jpeg)



by Ingrid Zundel (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/zundel/)


(http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/zundel/)

Until just a few weeks ago, an old man’s bones lay buried in a family grave in an impeccably kept cemetery in a Bavarian town called Wunsiedel. His name was Rudolf Hess. Born 1894, he suffered a mysterious death in 1987 at age 93.


Twenty-four years later, in the dark of the night of 20 July 2011, some ghouls dug up his remains, as well as the bones of his wife and his parents, and holocausted them.

Now who would want to do a ghoulish thing like that? Dracula? Some spiteful force beyond our comprehension that needs to drive a silver stake into the spirit of a man long gone – whose very memory still carries the pulse beat of an era we are not ever to investigate, much less to honor and respect?


David Irving (http://http//www.fpp.co.uk/online/index.html), known even to his friends as the “reluctant Revisionist”, who, brilliant writer that he is, cannot resist to take a verbal swipe or two at twelve short years that ought to awe us at the very least with their scientific marvels, wrote this in introducing “Rudolf Hess: The Missing Years 1941-45”, Grafton Books, 1989:

rest: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/08/13/130485/

Horn
30th April 2012, 02:27 PM
Greg Hallett's book "Hitler Was A British Agent" (2005) depicts war as a ghoulish illusion conjured by occult magicians in order to degrade and eventually enslave humanity in world government.

http://www.greghallett.com/ Hallett's claim that Hitler was a "British" agent is based on the testimony of a shadowy network of retired intelligence agents. While he fails to provide documentary proof, Hallett does offer persuasive circumstantial evidence.

For example, Adolph Hitler was in England in 1912-1913, a fact supported by his sister-in-law's book "The Memoirs of Bridget Hitler"(1979). Many historians including Hitler biographer John Toland have ignored this startling information. (If Hallett is right, historians like Toland are guilty of sanitizing Hitler and actually making him more credible than he was.) Hallett says Hitler spent from February to November 1912 being brainwashed and trained at the British Military Psych-Ops War School at Tavistock in Devon and in Ireland.

"War machines need war and [that means they need] funded, trained and supported double agents to be their patsies, their puppets and their puppet enemies," Hallett writes (38). His sister-in-law describes Hitler as completely wasted when he arrived at her Liverpool home baggage-less. "I had an idea he was ill, his color was so bad and his eyes looked so peculiar," she wrote. "He was always reading, not books, little pamphlets printed in German. I don't know what was in them nor exactly where they came from." (pp. 29,35) Hallett says these were Tavistock training manuals.

"Hitler was a British Agent" is useful as an alternative paradigm. (Usually we cannot recognize truth because we have the wrong paradigm, i.e. our "education.") When Hallett says "British", he means Illuminati, the Masonic cult of super rich bankers who control an interlocking network of cartels.

This cult is based in the City of London but uses England and most nations and ideologies as sock puppets in a Punch and Judy show called history. Hallett's claim would clarify many improbable events in the Second World War. For example, why did Hitler let 335,000 Allied soldiers escape at Dunkirk? This quixotic gesture was explained as a peace overture, but surely England would have been more attentive if its army were in POW camps.

The Nazi triumph in May 1940 was like a knock-out in the first round. The Illuminati did not intend for the match to end so soon, nor for the Nazis to win. In the summer of 1940, when the Nazis were triumphant and Britain prostrate, Nazi Military Intelligence Chief (Abwehr) Admiral Wilhelm Canaris told Romanian Foreign Minister Prince Michael Sturdza to stay neutral because England would win the war. He also gave this message to Spanish dictator Franco. (See "Are World Wars Orchestrated?" http://www.savethemales.ca/000936.html) Hallett's theory also explains why Hitler, supposedly the arch enemy of Jewish bankers, acted like he didn't know the Rothschilds controlled England (and America) when this was common knowledge. (See, Hilaire Belloc, "The Jews" 1922).

If Hitler were for real, he wouldn't have tried to accommodate these countries. England would have been invaded and conquered before Russia was attacked. Hallett's hypothesis explains: 1)Why Hitler was able to expand into the Rhineland etc. without fear of retaliation. 2) Why the Nazi war machine was financed and built by the Bank of England and a Who's Who of Anglo American corporations controlled by the Illuminati. 3) Why Hitler never sealed the Mediterranean at Gibraltar; and why the Spanish dictator Franco remained neutral, despite the huge debt he owed the Nazis from the Civil War. 4) Why I.G. Farben headquarters in Frankfurt was never bombed and became CIA headquarters. 5) Why the Bank of England rewarded Hitler for taking Prague by giving him the Czech gold reserves held in London. It would explain why Hitler gave his ridiculous racial policies priority over actually winning the war. He could have enlisted millions of Slavs (and even many Jews) in overcoming Communist Russia. Instead, he made them implacable enemies. We could question why Japan attacked the U.S. instead of Russia; why the Nazis never realized their communications were compromised; why Hitler didn't conquer the oil fields of Russia and the Middle East when he had the chance etc. but you get the picture. The fix was in.

WHO WAS HITLER?

The biggest improbability of all is that an Austrian tramp, street cleaner and gay prostitute could become the Chancellor of Germany. Hitler joins a long list of obscure blackmailable figures who have been catapulted to world prominence with the aid of an unseen hand...
http://www.rense.com/general69/agent.htm

gunDriller
30th April 2012, 02:49 PM
You kick out the jews and issue debt-free currency.

not having a Tapeworm-like Parasite sucking out the energy of a society is REAL helpful.

i think Hitler's primary mistake was expansionism - e.g. invading Sweden & Norway.

i wonder too about the movement of German troops Eastward into Russia - how much of that was Defensive, how much of it was Offensive.

it seems obvious that WW2 Germany did not have the resources to occupy Russia. Hitler was not dumb, I think he would have seen that.


if he had just stuck to kicking the Jews out & running Germany smartly, but staying within the existing borders, forgetting about trying to seize the disputed territory with Poland ... 1940's era Germany could have ended up an admirable society.

i have a hunch that the Criminal Jews were determined to use Hitler to support the Israel project, and to make sure that his expulsion of Jews was never seen as a progressive move that could benefit a country's health.

Bigjon
30th April 2012, 03:11 PM
not having a Tapeworm-like Parasite sucking out the energy of a society is REAL helpful.

i think Hitler's primary mistake was expansionism - e.g. invading Sweden & Norway.

i wonder too about the movement of German troops Eastward into Russia - how much of that was Defensive, how much of it was Offensive.

it seems obvious that WW2 Germany did not have the resources to occupy Russia. Hitler was not dumb, I think he would have seen that.


if he had just stuck to kicking the Jews out & running Germany smartly, but staying within the existing borders, forgetting about trying to seize the disputed territory with Poland ... 1940's era Germany could have ended up an admirable society.

i have a hunch that the Criminal Jews were determined to use Hitler to support the Israel project, and to make sure that his expulsion of Jews was never seen as a progressive move that could benefit a country's health.

He didn't invade Sweden.

Sweden made a deal with Hitler and provided safe passage for German troops and tanks to invade Norway via Norway's back door.

My cousins are madder at the Swede's than they are mad at the German's.

Hitler didn't make any mistakes, he turned Germany over to the Jews.

Norweger
30th April 2012, 03:18 PM
Germany didn't invade Sweden and all research points in the direction that the Brits were trying to take Norway first.. and besides we have some tasty iron-ore the Germans wanted to secure and lets not forget Operation Barbarossa that stopped what was intended to take over the entire Scandinavian continent in what became for Germany the biggest military victory ever.

All of these surrendered and didn't want to fight for Stalin.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YYMeAu4i7gA/TSB6E-Bwv2I/AAAAAAAAJyw/BZa8j0itIbM/s1600/brutal-germans-russian-pows-treatment-eastern-front-ostfront-ww2-006.jpg

The jews of course will bitch and moan about how these people got killed by the Germans and whatnot but most of them were sent to camps and got killed when returned to the communists.

One communist SOB jew that was the president of parliament before the war and took of to Britain like the traitor he was when the war broke out had direct correspondence with Moscow and was hoping for a complete communist takeover of Norway.

gunDriller
30th April 2012, 03:59 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_YYMeAu4i7gA/TSB6E-Bwv2I/AAAAAAAAJyw/BZa8j0itIbM/s1600/brutal-germans-russian-pows-treatment-eastern-front-ostfront-ww2-006.jpg

i see a supply line problem.

a whole lot of troops but no food or food infrastructure.

any idea what month & year that picture was taken ?

i know one of those winters, 1944 maybe, was SUPER cold and that accounted for a lot of the casualties of the war-time - millions of people in camps without firewood or adequate food.


whoever instigated hostilities = person/organization responsible for those deaths.

another example of "the Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you" ?


i think one of the political objectives of the war was to get rid of the European Jews who did not go along with the Israel project.

they were an impediment to the Zionists, and Hitler was an early devotee of the "send the Jews to the desert" concept. he may not have been too fond of the Jews that resisted being sent to Israel. some of the details of this are spelled out by Edwin Black in "The Transfer Agreement".

Horn
30th April 2012, 04:25 PM
My cousins are madder at the Swede's than they are mad at the German's.

Like Swede's had a choice but then to have been painted with Nazi primer.

The end result in both turning to a weak statehood.

Bigjon
1st May 2012, 05:28 PM
Like Swede's had a choice but then to have been painted with Nazi primer.

The end result in both turning to a weak statehood.

The Swede's claimed they were a neutral state.

Letting armed German troops use their rail system to invade Norway is not a NEUTRAL ACT.

They could have said no deal. Germany would have had to invade Norway by sea or Sweden by sea not an easy thing to do.

Norweger
1st May 2012, 11:39 PM
The invasion of Norway was the first in history by land, sea and air.

Bigjon
2nd May 2012, 06:34 AM
The invasion of Norway was the first in history by land, sea and air.

The main invasion was through the back door... Sweden.

Tanks on Swedish trains.

How many tanks by sea and air... I would guess 0.0 none.

DMac
5th September 2012, 08:51 AM
Timely bump - more time wasting on Hitler...


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Norweger
5th September 2012, 10:24 AM
Oh snap. you got me now. I admit it, i work in secret for the joos in order to make this forum look like an extremist hotbed so the ADL can have a crackdown on you Nazis.

JDRock
5th September 2012, 11:29 AM
haavaaa-nagila havaaa nagila havaa...insert dancing jew right here.

PatColo
10th February 2013, 07:04 AM
And Alex Linder said it best, "The only way out is through the jew". It's time will come.

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PatColo
3rd February 2016, 07:07 PM
And Alex Linder said it best, "The only way out is through the jew". It's time will come.


a search for "Alex Linder" turned up this thread :)

Check this S. African (Rhodesia) guy's YT channel, "History Reviewed (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6tXYyxM-S-gJ1pJw8nWpA/videos)" for many other interesting (& shorter!) vids; I'm still watching (listening to!) this one

1h 23m:

Controversy: Exterminate the Jews - Alex Linder: Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwWLpFu068c)




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwWLpFu068c

Published on Feb 2, 2016
My analysis of Alex Linder of VNN. He's a White Nationalist Atheist who attacks Christians. He used to be in Dr Pierce's National Alliance. He says all Jews should be exterminated. Is Alex Linder a Jew? Is he an an enemy agent?

Jewboo
3rd February 2016, 07:22 PM
a search for "Alex Linder" turned up this thread :)



Alex Linder completely disappeared from the internet over a year ago.

PatColo
3rd February 2016, 10:52 PM
Alex Linder completely disappeared from the internet over a year ago.


hmm, what do you think happened? Is Alex L. legit? I haven't been a student of his stuff, or VNN (or Stormfront) in general. That "History Reviewed (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA6tXYyxM-S-gJ1pJw8nWpA/videos)" guy just posted the Linder video 1-2 days ago. I only skipped through it; from the bits I heard the guy was mostly focused on the evolution of his view of Linder over a period of years... I don't care enough to listen to his whole 1h 23m spiel. :cool: