Where would you start someone that wants to learn?

[dys]

This is a pretty cool problem to have-

There is a guy I work with...good guy, hard working family man. I have talked to him about the conspiracy and he is super interested in learning as much as he can in as short a time as possible. A few things about him:

1. Again, he is SUPER interested. Constantly asking me questions, just can't get enough type of interested.
2. BUT, he knows almost nothing about the illuminati, fractitional reserve system, usury, agenda 21, etc...
3. He has 3 small kids at home, so sending him to internet sites or giving him long books isn't a good idea.
4. BUT he actually has a plan on how he is going to learn..he wants to spend his lunch hour reading info that I give him, and either come in an hour early or leave an hour late everyday to read more. Then he wants to ask me questions the next day or as they come up. But when he leaves the office, he wants to be done learning for the day so he can spend time with his family without interruption.
5. He is minority (half black, half peurto rican). I don't think giving him stuff about chimp outs or anything like that is a good idea. We haven't discussed race at all except briefly gone over the Jewish thing, which he is on board with because he is a believer in Jesus Christ and the Jews reject Jesus Christ.

So....does anyone have any suggestions on the info I should give him to get him ramped up as quickly as possible? Thanks,

dys

[Awoke]

Most all of it is here:
http://overlordsofchaos.com/
http://themurkynews.blogspot.ca/

Murky News is a great site for beginners, as it is easier reading.
Overlords of Chaos is in depth, and not super organized, but full of truths.

EDIT - I would recommend you approach the jew thing softly. It might be easier for him to keep an open mind if you define the Khazars, and refer to the conspirators and the synogogue of satan as khazars.

[hoarder]

Size up his personality type and predispositions and provide him with clues that he will digest. A little at a time goes a long way.

[AndreaGail]

Creature From Jekyll Island. Not as good as Eustace Mullins' original work but probably easier to read and relate to

My first "red pill" book. I left wanting to know more and it enables you to research so many different aspects from the work

[Book]

There is a guy I work with...I have talked to him about the conspiracy...



Does he also own a machete?

::)

[vacuum]

First thing I'd do is emphasize that this is more than just book knowledge. It's more of an emotional realization that will change and likely darken his outlook. He should be aware of this before moving forward, so he knows what to expect. The key thing for him to understand is that when he reads the material, the key reactions will be emotional ones not intellectual. Once he understands this he can monitor himself in real time.

[woodman]

Does he also own a machete?

::)

Dammit Book, ya beat me to it.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I would suggest that he watch The Money Masters on Google video. This will undo the mainstream omission of the history of money in America.

Then I would get him to read The Protocols of Zion. This will open his mind to the contempt the elite have for ordinary people.

There is a thread here on GSUS called The Police State Road Map.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60262-The-Police-State-Road-Map

This is very good. It describes the more recent machinations of the elite to implement the NWO.

Also, there is a video of William Cooper who wrote Behold a Pale Horse where he talks about everything related to conspiracies, he can watch that video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUbFwqglIaA


And finally, there is a book by John Coleman called The Committee of 300. Coleman is an excellent source on how the world really works.

I can think of dozens of excellent source materials on the conspiratorial view of history--but the ones above are excellent for starters.


Hatha

[Awoke]

First thing I'd do is emphasize that this is more than just book knowledge. It's more of an emotional realization that will change and likely darken his outlook. He should be aware of this before moving forward, so he knows what to expect. The key thing for him to understand is that when he reads the material, the key reactions will be emotional ones not intellectual. Once he understands this he can monitor himself in real time.

That's a good point. I wish I had have known about the 5 steps of progression when coming to terms with the conspiracy. Get him to read that article Silver Shield wrote on the 5 steps. It'll be a good heads-up.

[Twisted Titan]

Start with vids....let him ask questions


you absorb more faster



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0LOtWmy_o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[undgrd]

I'd be cautious bringing someone along quickly. That darkened outlook that was mentioned earlier...I had that. It last almost 6 months and I'd been researching things for about a year and a half at that point.

It's not a big pill you swallow. It's several big pills.

Not joking when I write this. With a family depending on him, I wouldn't let him fall too fast down the hole.

[gunDriller]

Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel

... title that suggest controversy, but it's a history book about Adolf Hitler, WW2 Germany, and the role of Israel supporters in both. it does not paint Hitler in either a good or bad light, it records the facts.

[palani]

...he is SUPER interested. Constantly asking me questions, just can't get enough type of interested.
dys
Best to figure out which agency he works for first before attempting conversion.

[SWRichmond]

http://www.amazon.com/The-Road-Serfdom-Fiftieth-Anniversary/dp/0226320618

[LastResort]

Given recent events in your life I would back the fuck off...

Ok maybe give him a copy of zeitgiest(terrible I know) and see if he can figure it out himself...

[DMac]

These are a must IMO:

DR STUART CRANE
http://www.resist.com/DrStuartCrane.htm

*edit to remove others, just have him start with Stuart Crane.

[JJ.G0ldD0t]

Recruit him here.

Recent polling data indicates that we seem to be a bit short on mulattos. :(

[woodman]

Aron Russo's "Freedom to Fascism" is a good one that won't throw them too violently out of their matrix.

[PlatinumBlonde]

Recruit him here.

Recent polling data indicates that we seem to be a bit short on mulattos. :(

Er...do not recruit him here at least until we know what agency he represents..

This smells of set up to me. Did this guy just approach you, dys out of blue? And at work?

I would be extremely cautious about what you speak and with whom in the workplace. Trust me, I have bitter experience in this regard..

[hoarder]

The first level of awareness should not include anything racial beyond wars for Israel. Discuss banking, the power of mass media, food control issues, big pharma, truthseeking in general and secret societies.

before you build a house you must build a foundation.

[woodman]

One thing to remember is that you don't have to be very comprehensive as far as awakening someone. Sometimes a nudge is better that a push. Remember as a kid when you found out about Santa Claus, everything else like the easter bunny and the tooth fairy fell into place. Once someone finds they are being lied to in such a fundamental way then they will question all the other aspects on their own. It is akin to a crack in your windsheild, eventually it will spread.

[Spectrism]

Excellent ideas and warnings.... got some chuckles.

You have to warn him that the whole thing goes deep and he should be prepared to find many preconceptions challenged.



Does he have a machete?..... Yeah.... that is funny!

[osoab]

I would start with the money. Skip all the joo crap.

It was looking into monetary issues that started my journey.

Have him start reading ZeroHedge daily. He can do that at work. If he can't read and start to comprehend what is talked about there, then he might need to spend more time with his family. If he starts getting some of the ZH stuff down, then move him into "The Creature from Jekyll Island" along with other books.

Follow the money and everything else falls into place.

[dys]

Thanks for the help, guys. Thus far he seems to be most interested in anything pertaining to money, and believe it or not, the Jewish conspiracy. Do I think he is an agent? I doubt it, and here is why: I have known this guy for a couple of years. I think he has recently become interested because he has started to really struggle financially. Like a lot of people out there, he is working harder than ever and getting nowhere.
Of course, you can never be too careful. I'm taking it slow with him.

dys

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIhDdST27g

[MAGNES]

This is a pretty cool problem to have-

There is a guy I work with...good guy, hard working family man. I have talked to him about the conspiracy and he is super interested in learning as much as he can in as short a time as possible. A few things about him:

1. Again, he is SUPER interested. Constantly asking me questions, just can't get enough type of interested.
2. BUT, he knows almost nothing about the illuminati, fractitional reserve system, usury, agenda 21, etc...
3. He has 3 small kids at home, so sending him to internet sites or giving him long books isn't a good idea.
4. BUT he actually has a plan on how he is going to learn..he wants to spend his lunch hour reading info that I give him, and either come in an hour early or leave an hour late everyday to read more. Then he wants to ask me questions the next day or as they come up. But when he leaves the office, he wants to be done learning for the day so he can spend time with his family without interruption.
5. He is minority (half black, half peurto rican). I don't think giving him stuff about chimp outs or anything like that is a good idea. We haven't discussed race at all except briefly gone over the Jewish thing, which he is on board with because he is a believer in Jesus Christ and the Jews reject Jesus Christ.

So....does anyone have any suggestions on the info I should give him to get him ramped up as quickly as possible? Thanks,

dys

You are going to be his filter at work and he isn't interested in doing his own research ?
I am surprised people on this forum are not taking you apart on this post.
Non of this reads right to me.

----------------------

There is/was a lot of information in the news you can use to introduce topics,
NeoCons, Oligarchs, Wars, War On Terror, Sibel Edmonds, Fitzgerald,
AIPAC, many major scandals, all this was in the news and this is what woke
everyone on the net up, before economic problems manifested in open,
many major related scandals that includes 9/11, and don't forget Ron Paul,
Ron Pauls people are aware enough, look at his message, Anti NeoCon Pro Freedom.

He isn't interested in doing his own research, ? , you are his filter, ? ,
you discourage him from doing his own research online on net, ? ,
you should be encouraging that, if someone isn't interested in
doing their own reading and research, I would not bother with them
no matter who they are, and at work, I wouldn't touch that with a
10 foot pole.

I never start conversations with people, I always try to connect,
give references, if something is in the news it is much easier,
you need to connect with people, if someone has no interest in
a topic, makes no sense to talk about it.

Sources, news, issues, economics, WRH, antiwar.com, NeoCons, Ron Paul.
You start off with the more conspiratorial stuff you will lose.

People that are interested in history are very easy for me to connect to.
Usually those people are already knowledgeable to a degree, they online.

There is very few people I have deeper conversations about issues.
Usually discussion involves economics or what is in news.

Everyone here on GSUS knows we don't have any eye opening threads/issues/topics.

[Shami-Amourae]

I think the cartoon, "The American Dream" is a good introduction for newbies. It's easy to understand, entertaining, and right to the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPWH5TlbloU

[General of Darkness]

Real easy

1 - Loose Change

Then

2 - Missing Links

[Awoke]

Another short but powerful resource is the Jaffe Memo. (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59272-The-Jaffe-memo-Planned-Parenthood-unveiled)

Because it is short, he'll have time for it, and because it was written by and for the PTB, he cannot refute it, and because he can see the results all around him once he reads it, he will know it's true and real.

[Book]

Skip all the joo crap.



http://benwilliamslibrary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/rothschild.jpg
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/03/08/bu_greenspan.jpg

::) ...say they are Amish

[osoab]

http://benwilliamslibrary.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/rothschild.jpg
http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2007/03/08/bu_greenspan.jpg

::) ...say they are Amish

dude, you are such a wanker.

edit to add.

When one follows the money, everything falls into place, even the involvent of your brethren, the jooz.
Would you rather start the noob on the great things Her Schicklgruber did?

[Horn]

dude, you are such a wanker.

edit to add.

When one follows the money, everything falls into place, even the involvent of your brethren, the jooz.
Would you rather start the noob on the great things Her Schicklgruber did?

I guess its a matter of which meatshield you want to hit first...

You could start off by calling the newbie a meatshield (that may not go so well), or you could list some other race of people as meatshields. (that might go as bad as the first)

[Gaillo]

Do I think he is an agent? I doubt it, and here is why: I have known this guy for a couple of years...

Didn't you know machete master flash for a couple of years too? With all due respect, your long-term friend vs enemy detector seems to be malfunctioning... :o

Watch your newly "awakened" friend VERY CLOSELY, and PAY ATTENTION to the kinds of questions he's asking, and why he might be asking them.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

The creation of money, the benefit from the creation of money, who currently controls that benefit, the common law, the way america used to be versus the way it is organized now, people as corporations, individuals are strawmen, what is sovereignty, what does the govt do with tax money, they hide it in the CAFR by investing it, who are the Rothschilds, how and why are wars fought in the industrial age.........


That's the first pass right there. You double back after that.

[iOWNme]

I would start with REAL human history like the Magna Carta. Then the Articles of Confederation, Federalist/Anti Federalist papers, and then the US Constitution and BoR.

You MUST stand under what the idea of America was founded on, before you can ever make any sense of what is being done.

Of course, all of the famous quotes from our founders about banking, will make a whole lot more sense.

What good does understanding the Federal Reserve do, if you do not have a firm understanding of sound money, historically speaking?

I like to start people with the very foundations of this country. The rest can be built on top of that idea: The individual is superior to the collective.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce, and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." — James A. Garfield, 20th U.S. president, two weeks before he was assassinated in 1881


"Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.
Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroys information and religions destroy spirituality."
-Michael Ellner



"I have often wondered how it is that every man loves himself more than all the rest of men, but yet sets less value on his own opinions of himself than on the opinions of others." --Marcus Aurelius

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it" --Frederic Bastiat

[Gaillo]

"Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce, and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate." — James A. Garfield, 20th U.S. president, two weeks before he was assassinated in 1881


"Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.
Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroys information and religions destroy spirituality."
-Michael Ellner

"I have often wondered how it is that every man loves himself more than all the rest of men, but yet sets less value on his own opinions of himself than on the opinions of others." --Marcus Aurelius

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it" --Frederic Bastiat

"Some even believe we are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it." - David Rockefeller from his book, David Rockefeller: Memoirs.

"We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest." - James Warburg (Rothschild Banking Agent 1950)

"The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts." - Henry Ford, Industry Giant

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow, they will be grateful! This would especially be true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by a World Government." - Henry Kissinger, Bilderburg Conference, Evians, France 1991

[dys]

The dude changed his mind, now he wants to do some research at home. I am very optimistic about this guy, he asks a lot of questions, he seems to be a reflective thinker. Some of the stuff he is isn't quite getting yet, but I feel it will come in time. I'll give him this website and introduce him if he wants to join. He might just observe for awhile, that's kind of the way he is.

dys

[osoab]

The dude changed his mind, now he wants to do some research at home. I am very optimistic about this guy, he asks a lot of questions, he seems to be a reflective thinker. Some of the stuff he is isn't quite getting yet, but I feel it will come in time. I'll give him this website and introduce him if he wants to join. He might just observe for awhile, that's kind of the way he is.

dys

I would tell him not to take any one post as being indicative of the forum if he decides to visit.

[PlatinumBlonde]

The dude changed his mind, now he wants to do some research at home. I am very optimistic about this guy, he asks a lot of questions, he seems to be a reflective thinker. Some of the stuff he is isn't quite getting yet, but I feel it will come in time. I'll give him this website and introduce him if he wants to join. He might just observe for awhile, that's kind of the way he is.

dys

Don't give him this website.

[Book]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5CKYqEEX2Hg/TmnYVa7rphI/AAAAAAAACMY/s3VtYUbA6Bk/s1600/2588584896_d311539b9b.jpg




He is minority (half black, half peurto rican). I don't think giving him stuff about chimp outs or anything like that is a good idea.



::)




I'll give him this website and introduce him if he wants to join.

[Horn]

I would tell him not to take any one post as being indicative of the forum if he decides to visit.

Or any of Book's.

[dys]

Don't give him this website.

Why not?

dys

[PlatinumBlonde]

Why not?

dys

Because he may not be what you think and it could expose you and us to who knows what and to further the point the days of giving anybody and everybody the benefit of the doubt are pretty much over..

[osoab]

Because he may not be what you think and it could expose you and us to who knows what and to further the point the days of giving anybody and everybody the benefit of the doubt are pretty much over..

I would bet that all the alphabet agencies no everything about the board and the members.

[PlatinumBlonde]

I would bet that all the alphabet agencies no everything about the board and the members.

Good for you.

I'm not willing to 'bet'..

[osoab]

Good for you.

I'm not willing to 'bet'..

If it's on the net, they know.

Enough topics are discussed here to get a DHS flag in NY minute.

Think of the number of "acts"/"suspicions" there are to justify a look see by DHS. "See Something, Say Something".

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Send him to Prison Planet/Infowars. He'll either pick the ball up on his own and run with it or put it away with apathy.

He can find out later that AJ is a shillimus maximus..

[Serpo]

Total world collapse for dummies...................where else;D

[keehah]

Total world collapse for dummies...................where else;D
You didn't quite get the title right. 8)

Amazon: The Moron's Guide to Global Collapse (http://www.amazon.com/The-Morons-Guide-Global-Collapse/dp/1469965399/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1332436937&sr=8-1)

An introduction to the economic, political and environmental mess the world is currently in; with insights into how we got here as well as how we might get out. (Some solutions are more painful than others.) Informative and even revelatory, but anyone who actually LIKES this book should have his head examined.

A recent comment from the author:

http://www.collapsenet.com/free-resources/collapsenet-public-access/item/7080-the-morons-guide-to-global-collapse-by-jenna-orkin

2012-03-25 13:45
thanks, all, for your comments. the book can help most with connecting the dots, particularly for people who aren't as immersed in these issues as we are. but it doesn't sugarcoat so if someone's determined to keep their head in the sand, it won't change that. most of my friends refuse to read it.

[Serpo]

http://the-jazzman.com/elephants/pconnect.gif

what about a connecting the dots book..............::)

[gunDriller]

edumacate them on MF Global.

there's a lot of material on that & it's very current.


then move on to Brookesley Born & how Greedspan, Summers, & Rubin stood in her way when she wanted to regulate credit derivatives as CFTC chair-hen. (that's the Swedish word :) )


then, perhaps, Creature from Jekyll Island.


Banksters, Banksters, & more Banksters.

then ask them, what is the ethnicity of the Banksters ?

maybe they'll, hopefully, by then, observe a PATTERN forming.


if they don't get it from all that, i'd give up, go to McDonald's & get a fake chocolate shake, and talk sports with them.

[dys]

For the first time in a long time I feel optimistic. There are a few people in my life now that seem to be paying attention. I feel I am actually making a difference with certain friends and family....it feels like something is happening.

No way does this happen without Jesus Christ. It is His doing.

dys

[Awoke]

Bump.

[freespirit]

For the first time in a long time I feel optimistic. There are a few people in my life now that seem to be paying attention. I feel I am actually making a difference with certain friends and family....it feels like something is happening.

No way does this happen without Jesus Christ. It is His doing.

dys

are you making a difference, or are you just allowing Christ to work through you? is there a difference?