So what happens to Insanatoriums delegates?

[General of Darkness]

Anyone know how this works?

[BabushkaLady]

I think they'll be counted twice, then put in Mitt's basket. ;)

[Cebu_4_2]

I really thought I did but I must have learned things different than they play out these days. This is from Wiki:

The 2012 Republican presidential primaries are the selection processes in which voters of the Republican Party (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_%28United_States%29) will choose their nominee for President of the United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_the_United_States) in the 2012 presidential election (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012). There will be 2,286 delegates chosen,[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#cite _note-totaldel-2) and a candidate must accumulate 1,144 delegate votes at the Republican National Convention (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Republican_National_Convention) to win the nomination.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#cite _note-win-3) The primaries and caucuses can be binding or nonbinding in allocating delegates to the repective state delegations to the National convention. But the actual election of the delegates are many times at a later date. Delegates are elected in different ways that vary from state to state. They can be elected at local conventions, selected from slates submitted by the candidates, Selected at committee meetings or elected directly at the caucuses and primaries. Until the delegates are actually elected the delegate numbers are by nature projections, but it is only in the nonbinding caucus states where they are not allocated at the primary or caucus date.
The primary contest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_primary) began in 2011 with a fairly wide field. Mitt Romney, former Governor of Massachusetts, had been preparing to run for president ever since the 2008 election,[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#cite _note-4) and the media narrative became: "Who will be the anti-Romney candidate?"[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#cite _note-5) Several candidates rose in the polls throughout the year. However, the field was down to four candidates by February 2012: Former House speaker Newt Gingrich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich), U.S. Congressman Ron Paul (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul), former Governor Mitt Romney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney) and former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Santorum). It is the first presidential primary to be affected by a Supreme Court ruling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_United_v._Federal_Election_Commission) that allowed unlimited fundraising for candidates through super PACs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_PACs).
For the first time in modern GOP primary history, three different candidates won the first three contests. Santorum, who had been running a one-state campaign in Iowa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Republican_caucuses,_2012), narrowly won in that state's caucuses by a handful of votes over Romney (who was thought to have won the caucuses before a recount). Romney went on to win New Hampshire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Hampshire_Republican_primary,_2012), but lost South Carolina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Republican_primary,_2012) to Gingrich. From there, Santorum took his campaign national and carried three more states before Super Tuesday, while Romney carried seven.
Super Tuesday (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Tuesday,_2012) primaries took place on March 6. With ten states voting and 391 delegates being allocated, it had only about half the potential impact of its 2008 predecessor. Romney carried six states and Santorum three states, while Gingrich won his home state of Georgia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Republican_primary,_2012). Throughout the rest of March, 266 delegates were allocated in 12 events, including all of the territorial contests and the first local conventions that allocated delegates (Wyoming's county conventions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_Republican_caucuses,_2012)). Santorum won Kansas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Republican_caucuses,_2012) and three Southern primaries, but was unable to make any gain on Romney, who remained the frontrunner after securing more than half of the delegates allocated in March.
On April 10, Santorum officially suspended his campaign, leaving Mitt Romney as the undisputed front-runner for the presidential nomination.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012#cite _note-6)


More here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_primaries,_2012

[EE_]

I agree with BabushkaLady.
They definately won't go to Paul. The Santorum supporters don't give a rats ass about the constitution and always put Israel before America.
Does it really matter?

[Cebu_4_2]

heres some non MSM opinion:

Ron Paul winning delegates

Denver Libertarian Examiner

As the 2012 Race for the Republican Nomination turns toward this week’s primaries in D.C., Maryland and Wisconsin all eyes are on so-called “front-runners” like Romney who the media says is running away with the Delegates and is the “most likely” nominee.
If you turn on the television today you have a very good chance of seeing the media’s general estimated delegate count for the four remaining “Republicans” that are vying for the 2012 nod.

Although the numbers vary slightly depending on which mainstream source used, currently, the establishment’s media is displaying the approx. totals (http://www.cbsnews.com/primary-election-results-2012/scorecard.shtml?party=R) as Romney leading with around 550 delegates, Santorum with around 240, Gingrich around 130, and Ron Paul trailing the pack with usually less than 50.

Are these numbers accurate? Let’s find out.


The first problem we see when studying delegate counts comes from the very first caucus held in Iowa back in January.

Although the media says they “estimate” the delegate count as proportionate to the percentages of votes won in each caucus, of Iowa’s 25 available delegate seats, even as Santorum, Romney and Paul basically split the votes there relatively evenly, somehow the media's estimated delegate count shows Santorum as winning 13 delegates and Romney winning the other 12….as if Paul received no votes whatsoever.

With that being said, if taking percentages of caucus votes into account to determine the estimated final delegate totals, the media’s general delegate estimate is already faulty after just the first caucus.

However, as we dig even deeper into the situation those estimated delegate counts are actually much further flawed than even the Iowa example shows.

Even though you haven't heard much about it in the media, in all the caucus states around the country Ron Paul’s delegate strategy is actually paying off as county after county and district after district are sending more Ron Paul Delegates to State Conventions than any other candidate.

How is that possible?


First and foremost, in the caucus states the original caucus that takes place is actually only a straw poll and truly only serves to inform the voters of each precinct as to where their perspective precinct’s voters generally stand.

The real elections don’t actually take place until immediately thereafter when those who wish to become delegates stay behind after everyone else goes home. This is where the process begins to narrow down the hundreds or thousands from each caucus state that want to become a delegate.

Individuals from each precinct that want to become a delegate pitch each other as to why they each deserve to represent their precinct at their County’s Convention. They then hold another election to decide who will fill those available seats and vote those individuals to those County Conventions, which typically takes place a couple weeks later, and many already have.

The process basically repeats itself at the County level as all those who were voted to County Conventions then vote to see who of those will represent their county at the district level, narrowing the field down even further.

From there, District Delegates will then vote a week or two later to see who will ultimately be selected to State Conventions, from there to the National Convention, where in Iowa’s case only 25 National Delegate seats are available.

Only then will the American people finally get to know the exact amount of delegates each candidate receives from the caucus states because it is there at the National Convention that those delegates finally make the official vote for the candidate of their choice.

Additionally, as these County and District Conventions continue to unfold, it is becoming widely evident that Ron Paul’s supporters have been the most educated on this process and also seem to be the most dedicated thus far.

Thousands of Paul Delegate hopefuls have been overrunning County and District Conventions all over the country. In turn, it has been mostly Paul Delegates that continue to move on to the next successive convention to this point, unless GOP Party ‘officials’ from those precinct, County or District Conventions purposely tried to illegally force Paul’s supporters from participating.

Unfortunately, that is something that has happened in quite a few locations around the country.

Being that as it is, in the caucus states that have actually held their straw poll and Precinct, County and District Conventions already, with so many Paul Delegates taking over the majority of the districts thus far, it is almost a done deal that Ron Paul will likely win much of the available delegate seats from many of the caucus states.

Even in some of the “primary” states like Virginia and Oklahoma there are portions of delegate seats available that are not bound to the original election and are open to any candidate that made the original ballot. These delegate seats will be apportioned in separate elections much like the caucus states.

Under these circumstances, if the establishment’s media continues to merely report an estimate proportionately based on the initial caucus straw poll in each caucus state, the American people will continue to be misled about what the actual count may be.

It will also be very interesting to see how the media handles the real numbers as they start to emerge from the National Convention. Ron Paul may actually currently be, by some estimates, in 3rd or even 2nd place overall behind Romney and truly seems to be gaining steam as the process continues to unfold.

Some in the GOP have shuttered at the fact that young Ron Paul supporters have done their homework and decided to go out in mass to attempt forcing their candidate into the Republican nomination and have tried to do everything they can to stop them from doing so.

The problem with that is Ron Paul’s delegate hopefuls have truly done their homework, know the GOP’s election laws (http://www.robertsrules.com/) and are following them by the book, something the other candidate’s supporters aren’t doing. This forces anyone trying to stop them to break the rules to do so.

The problem the establishment is having with even that scenario is that so many legal Paul Delegate hopefuls have decided to participate this time that the establishment doesn’t have the organization in place to cover the incredible amount of locations being overrun by Paul supporters, and in turn Paul’s Delegates are winning the majority of the Caucus State Delegates in many of those states anyway.

Stay tuned as this remarkable story continues to unfold.

[midnight rambler]

Praise The Source for miracles large and small.

[Cebu_4_2]

There is an interesting analysis article over at Real Clear Politics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/03/09/romney_really_might_not_have_the_delegates_by_june .html) that lays out a scenario whereby the August Republican National Convention evolves into the worst nightmare imaginable for party officials – a brokered convention. Based on how Republican candidates for president have done so far with different demographics and regions of the country, Sean Trende (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/authors/?author=Sean%2BTrende&id=17480) predicts how the race for the Republican nomination may play out and lays out a scenario where a brokered Republican convention could take place.
Now, it’s no secret that a brokered convention would be a catastrophe for Republican Party leaders used to grand coronations at their quadrennial national party events. After all, anything could happen. Chaos could rule or a dark horse candidate not officially sanctioned by the party oligarchs could emerge. In either case their lack of control would disrupt the usual smooth proceedings meant to portray to the nation a party united, happy, and excited about its standard bearer.

Given his campaign’s strategy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wHLXsgn4_B0#%21) of focusing on caucuses and out hustling his rivals at local, county, and state conventions nationwide the main beneficiary of a brokered convention would be Texas Congressman Ron Paul. The fact of the matter is that most Americans do not get involved in politics. Many rightly view it as an ugly, corrupt business. Others are too busy following American Idol, Dancing with the Stars, or the latest escapades of Lindsay Lohan. While others would rather leave it to the professionals. But, Ron Paul supporters are different. They may not outnumber the supporters of other candidates, but they are hungrier and more dedicated to their principles. They are much more willing to show up, outlast, and fight for delegate positions than the supporters of rival candidates. These attributes seem to be paying dividends for the Paul campaign at least in the early stages of the delegate selection process.
In Iowa, Ron Paul supporters have become delegates for other candidates. Under party rules, if the convention is brokered at some point those delegates could be eligible to throw their support behind Dr. Paul.
In Georgia (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/10/pauls-georgia-partisans-grab-gingrich-turf/), Paul forces took over or as local GOP officials called it “hijacked” the DeKalb County delegate-selection convention in eastern metropolitan Atlanta. They also missed by a whisker doing the same thing in populous Cobb County.
And in Clark County (http://www.lvrj.com/news/heller-unites-clark-county-gop-convention-with-shots-at-berkley-obama-142194615.html), Nevada, home to Las Vegas, at the county GOP convention made up of over 2600 delegates, Paul supporters organized and triumphed by electing Paulites to all 14 seats on the ballot for county GOP executive committee board. These 14 new members of the board will make up two-thirds of the ruling body. Consequently, that county’s GOP platform now calls for holding elected officials to their oath to the Constitution, repeal of the 16th Amendment, and a full audit of the Federal Reserve.
The process of selecting delegates in most states is in the early stages. There will be multiple stories like the ones mentioned above. Ultimately, there may be a brokered Republican convention in August. Then again, there may not be. Ron Paul may not get the GOP nomination for president in 2012, but whoever does will be leading a party much different from the one that exists today. It will include delegates to the national convention, activists, and party officials who support a non-interventionist foreign policy, sound money, and civil liberties. You talk about a nightmare for the party oligarchs!

[Libertytree]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_QEElNN6w&feature=player_embedded

[EE_]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w_QEElNN6w&feature=player_embedded

So nobody really knows.
What we do know is the republicans lie and they lie...and the media lies and lies.

Thank God santorum won't be president...one little family emergency and he quits something that he said was soo important to him.
He lied!

"He's a fake!"
RP

I love this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjq3Asidp6s

[PlatinumBlonde]

I'm afraid if there is a brokered convention that Jeb Bush could emerge as the nominee..

[EE_]

I'm afraid if there is a brokered convention that Jeb Bush could emerge as the nominee..

Thanks doll, for the big horse laugh! LOL

[Libertytree]

Looks like newty is in dire $$ troubles. Plus the fact that he's approx $4M in debt.

Utah official: Gingrich campaign bounced $500 primary entrance check


Five Republicans have filed the necessary papers and $500 fee to qualify for the June 26 Utah presidential primary election, but with Rick Santorum (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/us/rick-santorum.htm#r_src=ramp) dropping out of the race Tuesday, only four will be on the ballot. Or, make that possibly three.


Newt Gingrich (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/us/newt-gingrich.htm#r_src=ramp)’s check bounced, reports the Salt Lake City Tribune.
Utah Elections Director Mark Thomas said a designated agent for the Gingrich campaign brought the filing papers and a check for $500 in March, but after the check was deposited, the state was notified by the bank that the check had bounced.


He said the office has tried to contact the Gingrich campaign through the telephone number and email provided on the application, but have not received a response. Recently, the state sent a certified letter to the campaign, stating that if the fee isn’t paid by April 20, Gingrich will be disqualified and will not be on the ballot.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/11/utah-official-gingrich-campaign-bounced-500-primary-entrance-check/#ixzz1rkdMG8a3

[midnight rambler]

Thanks doll, for the big horse laugh! LOL

I fail to see the humor in that, in my view it's a very good possibility. Poppy is so awesome he had an aircraft carrier and an airport named after him, imo Jeb is a shoo-in. Shit, Jeb comes across better than GeeDub, and he managed to get (s)elected as POTUS twice.

[PlatinumBlonde]

I fail to see the humor in that, in my view it's a very good possibility. Poppy is so awesome he had an aircraft carrier and an airport named after him, imo Jeb is a shoo-in. Shit, Jeb comes across better than GeeDub, and he managed to get (s)elected as POTUS twice.

Not to mention Jebby's Mexican born wife would be viewed as an asset..

[Libertytree]

Jebs last name is still Bush and everywhere except for the hardcore GOP'ers his name is toxic, thusly unelectable in the general election.

[chad]

what happens is that romney gets them, and if they vote for paul instead of romney, then we just change the votes in the back room.

[midnight rambler]

Jebs last name is still Bush and everywhere except for the hardcore GOP'ers his name is toxic, thusly unelectable in the general election.

It's a SELECTION, not an election. Hello??

[EE_]

If another Bush became president, you would know the anti-Christ has arrived and the battle of Armageddon is about to begin.

It's just not time yet.