Jesus > Religion

[Awoke]

Nice poem. Take 4 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IAhDGYlpqY

[muffin]

thank you. i really like that...

[Gaillo]

Jesus = Belief in Supernatural Beings = Religion.

Sorry... just calling it how I see it.

[Awoke]

I can understand your view on that Gaillo, but the difference between the two is that "Religion" is a man made organization that oftentimes is used for control and exploiting people for wealth, power etc.

What Jesus taught was to glorify the Father, and to love one another. He never said anything about guilting people for power/influence/riches/fame etc. Those are all earthly things, which he was expressly against.

Not trying to convert you, just sayin...

[Gaillo]

Awoke,
I hear ya, buddy. As always, we'll agree to disagree... my thanks for keeping it civil and respecting my personal beliefs by not trying to convert me to yours.

[Awoke]

You know Gaillo, my responsibility as a Christian is to spread the Gospel. I can say that, as far as this forum goes, I have done my best to share it with everyone including yourself, so my "job" is done.

What I mean by that is, I don't like to bible-thump people because I don't think that was what Christ intended. We are commissioned to spread the good word, and if people will not listen, we shake the dust from our sandles and move on. If someone asks questions or posts Anti-Christ material, it is my responsibility to address it to the best of my spiritual ability. As the saying goes, I can only lead to water, but I also do my best to ensure that the water does not get polluted by people with dark intentions.

I suppose the reason I am even bothering to post this reply is just to say that I know where you stand with your opinions/views on Christ and Christianity, but if you ever find something tugging at your heart and you want to talk or ask questions about Christianity, you can feel free to contact me.

The reason I posted this publicly instead of a PM is because the same offer stands for anyone else reading it, including lurkers.

[MAGNES]

Awoke,
I hear ya, buddy. As always, we'll agree to disagree... my thanks for keeping it civil and respecting my personal beliefs by not trying to convert me to yours.

The historical Jesus is real, the Occult, Jews, MSM, even trolls on forums
troll related history not just Christianity, this is how they outed themselves as well.

We are fighting the same battles as Jesus did.

As far as converting, all 3 of us are here in this thread,
Gaillo on one side, Awoke on the other side, Magnes in
the middle, tag team fighting the same battles together
in the trenches. Sometimes I wonder what we got Gaillo
into. LOL " By their works ye shall know them. " GSUS

[dys]

The bad guys have managed through social engineering/propaganda/programming et al, to trick the general populace into conflating the notions of faith and religion. They are not the same thing.

dys

[LuckyStrike]

Jesus = Belief in Supernatural Beings = Religion.



I would be interested in your definition of supernatural.

[nunaem]

That's backwards. Jesus is just a story but religion forms people's moral backbone.

[Sparky]

religion = "a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith"

As the ultimate contrarian, Jesus was critical of religion.