How to beat a traffic ticket

[iOWNme]

Do you really want to know how to beat a traffic ticket?

It takes no strawman theory or jargon about laws and supreme court rulings from 200 years ago. Nope. Just use physics to scientifically prove that the officer may have been mistaken, in his assumption


Physicist avoids $400 traffic ticket with mathematical argument

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/physicist-avoids-traffic-ticket-mathematical-paper-dmitri-krioukov



A physicist from the University of California-San Diego has gotten out of paying a $400 traffic ticket by writing a mathematical paper that convinced a judge that he may not have run a stop sign as charged, CBS News reported (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505164_162-57414735-10391734/scientist-uses-physics-to-beat-$400-ticket/). Instead, the scientist's four-page paper argues with the help of graphs and equations, a confluence of factors made the police officer think they saw him break the rules of the road when, in fact, he did not.


According to Wired (http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/04/physics-driving-penalty/), physicist Dmitri Krioukov wrote: “[In this paper], we show that if a car stops at a stop sign, an observer, e.g., a police officer, located at a certain distance perpendicular to the car trajectory, must have an illusion that the car does not stop, if the following three conditions are satisfied: (1) The observer measures not the linear but angular speed of the car; (2) The car decelerates and subsequently accelerates relatively fast; and (3) There is a short-time obstruction of the observer’s view of the car by an external object, e.g., another car, at the moment when both cars are near the stop sign.”


In his case, Krioukov claimed, as he neared the stop sign, he sneezed and braked sharply, CBS News reported. A car passing at that moment obscured the view of his car from a police officer parked 100 feet away from the stop sign. Because Krioukov accelerated quickly after stopping, it made it seem to the police officer that he had been driving at the same speed all along.Keep in mind, if you try this tactic, but do not have a PHD in physics, the outcome will most likely differ from this man's.

[Ares]

Do you really want to know how to beat a traffic ticket?

It takes no strawman theory or jargon about laws and supreme court rulings from 200 years ago. Nope. Just use physics to scientifically prove that the officer may have been mistaken, in his assumption


Physicist avoids $400 traffic ticket with mathematical argument

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatches/globalpost-blogs/weird-wide-web/physicist-avoids-traffic-ticket-mathematical-paper-dmitri-krioukov

Keep in mind, if you try this tactic, but do not have a PHD in physics, the outcome will most likely differ from this man's.

Or you could Refuse For Cause the ticket within 72 hours voiding the citation all together.

Its nothing more than a contract, don't do business with them.

[Awoke]

I would love to see definitive proof that you and Palani have pulled this shit out and gotten away with it.

This whole "Don't engage in a contract with them" business.

[palani]

I would love to see definitive proof that you and Palani have pulled this shit out and gotten away with it.

This whole "Don't engage in a contract with them" business.

Contract law is why pewter mugs have glass bottoms.

The signature line of checks is microprinted. This is unconscionable so the letters MP conspicuously appear at the end of the line. This is your notice. You still have to have enough sense to know what MP stand for.

Lift the hood once in while. Admire the engine. If you feel like it, take a wrench and start pulling it apart just to see how it works internally.

[ximmy]

Contract law is why pewter mugs have glass bottoms.

The signature line of checks is microprinted. This is unconscionable so the letters MP conspicuously appear at the end of the line. This is your notice. You still have to have enough sense to know what MP stand for.

Lift the hood once in while. Admire the engine. If you feel like it, take a wrench and start pulling it apart just to see how it works internally.

It might lead them into taking a red pill... "Why oh why didn't I take the BLUE pill?"

[iOWNme]

Contract law is why pewter mugs have glass bottoms.

The signature line of checks is microprinted. This is unconscionable so the letters MP conspicuously appear at the end of the line. This is your notice. You still have to have enough sense to know what MP stand for.

Lift the hood once in while. Admire the engine. If you feel like it, take a wrench and start pulling it apart just to see how it works internally.

Yet this man consented to the ticket. He contracted. He then went into the arena, and won. It is obvious in these arenas the judge does whatever they want to, not 'Follow Law'. Wouldnt you agree?

He probably waived his Masonic ring at the judge, and rest was just for show.

[BrewTech]

I have access to a genuine masonic ring. Should I try to acquire it for just such an eventuality?

[palani]

Yet this man consented to the ticket. He contracted. He then went into the arena, and won. It is obvious in these arenas the judge does whatever they want to, not 'Follow Law'. Wouldnt you agree?
A friend in England has a brother whose wife is Scottish. These two were visiting in Miami once and received a ticket. The man before them in court was German. The judge let him off because his native language was not English. When this pair get to the bar the judge was prepared to throw the book at him until the Scottish wench spoke up and said "you let the other guy off because he didn't speak the language yet you are planning on giving us a fine because we do." And so they got off as well.

You have to appreciate how sharp and vitriolic these Scottish wenches can be. In this case the judge was probably intended to impress a Russian how honest the U.S. is compared to his native land. If he had written such a paper in the Soviet Union the minimum sentence would have been 5 years in the gulag.

[palani]

Should I try to acquire it for just such an eventuality?

A 32 degree mason got a couple years for driving while barred. At one hearing the judge looked at him and stated "brother, we are straying" while playing with his ring. Sometimes they treat their own worse than the general public.

[Ares]

I would love to see definitive proof that you and Palani have pulled this shit out and gotten away with it.

This whole "Don't engage in a contract with them" business.

I wish I could give you the proof that you ask for. I just did it last week with a parking citation. I received the citation Wednesday, wrote Refused For Cause on the ticket and took it to the 3rd party my city contracted to write up parking citations. The individual behind the counter goes "What am I supposed to do with this?" To which I responded "Whatever you would like, I am refusing your contract." Turned around and walked away. It works the same way with speeding tickets. Although with speeding tickets I would recommend sending it back to the clerk of the court registered mail.. Also get an evidence repository at you county or U.S. District Court (I believe you're Canadian so that might not work for you). Sui Juris is more than just Latin, it's what you do to show competence to a legal frame work designed to enslave you.

[Awoke]

A 32 degree mason got a couple years for driving while barred. At one hearing the judge looked at him and stated "brother, we are straying" while playing with his ring. Sometimes they treat their own worse than the general public.

I am familiar with that story, in fact, I recall reading about it on GIM. I have spent about 10 minutes searching for the original story, because I KNOW that there was much more too it that what you said there. The cultist in front of the FMC judge was committing a bunch of acts that were a direct threat the the freemasonic cult itself, and that was the only reason he was "corrected".

This case was an anomaly, and strictly an act of discipline to keep the insubordinate cultist in line.

[Awoke]

I wish I could give you the proof that you ask for. I just did it last week with a parking citation. I received the citation Wednesday, wrote Refused For Cause on the ticket and took it to the 3rd party my city contracted to write up parking citations. The individual behind the counter goes "What am I supposed to do with this?" To which I responded "Whatever you would like, I am refusing your contract." Turned around and walked away. It works the same way with speeding tickets. Although with speeding tickets I would recommend sending it back to the clerk of the court registered mail.. Also get an evidence repository at you county or U.S. District Court (I believe you're Canadian so that might not work for you). Sui Juris is more than just Latin, it's what you do to show competence to a legal frame work designed to enslave you.

I might just have to test this theory myself next time I get an infraction. I just don't believe the beast would roll over and play dead when fiat slavery debt is at stake.

[dys]

Marc Stevens addressed the red herring of adhesion contracts in a recent radio program. His argument, which I agree with, is that the thugs trying to steal your money do so not by contract, but my violence. If they send you a tax bill and you ignore it, they will then use violence to take your money/property, not contracts. And forget the counteroffer...it simply doesn't work.
It doesn't even work to do exactly what they tell you is grounds to abate/dismiss the claim! Stevens will often get a beaurocrat to commit to a certain position. For example:
"If I were to establish/demonstrate XYZ, would you abate/dismiss the claim?"
Beaurocrat: "Yes."
(he does xyz)
"Will you dismiss the claim?"
Beaurocrat: "No."

"Do you concede that I did XYZ?"
Beaurocrat: "Yes, but I still won't abate/dismiss the claim."

dys

[Nomoss]

I have to say dys BS. And why? For you know not what you are doing.
IF you know then you know. You can if know tell them to go F themselfs.
FACTS are FACTS. Don't like the FACTS?
Too bad.

[dys]

I have to say dys BS. And why? For you know not what you are doing.
IF you know then you know. You can if know tell them to go F themselfs.
FACTS are FACTS. Don't like the FACTS?
Too bad.

So you know I take it? If so, please tell us how to successfully tell them to go F themselves.
BTW Marc Stevens sticks strictly to the facts in order to avoid arguing law, which is always subject to the discretion of criminals. Even establishing the facts doesn't stop violent criminals, just check out some of his calls of shame.

dys

[palani]

If they send you a tax bill and you ignore it, they will then use violence to take your money/property, not contracts.

dys

Qui tacet consentire videtur. He who is silent appears to consent.

You fail to recognize that all that is required to engage in a contract is your silence.

There is also confusion as to what a contract actually is. Common law contracts require certain elements to be enforceable under that lawform. Don't have a required element? Don't bother to try to have it enforced in a court of common law.

Equity and maritime courts deal with contracts that are quite loose and are much easier to enforce. They are much easier to enforce AGAINST you and much easier to enforce BY you.

You have no rights if you have no method of enforcing these rights.

[palani]

please tell us how to successfully tell them to go F themselves.

dys

Go in with this attitude and have fun losing. This is the door marked with a huge DISHONOR sign on it. Much easier to agree to everything and get out of the kill zone quickly. Remember you always have 72 hours to retract any contracts you might have engaged in. If you get a ticket and have a court date assigned that court date will always be more than 3 days after you received the ticket.

If you want to avoid contract entirely you make a counter-offer ... a CONDITIONAL acceptance ... by way of agreeing. But you ALWAYS agree or else must include getting thumped in the bargain.

[Uncle Salty]

Qui tacet consentire videtur. He who is silent appears to consent.

You fail to recognize that all that is required to engage in a contract is your silence.

There is also confusion as to what a contract actually is. Common law contracts require certain elements to be enforceable under that lawform. Don't have a required element? Don't bother to try to have it enforced in a court of common law.

Equity and maritime courts deal with contracts that are quite loose and are much easier to enforce. They are much easier to enforce AGAINST you and much easier to enforce BY you.

You have no rights if you have no method of enforcing these rights.

Palani,

Have you written a book about all this stuff? I would love to read up on it. A book with concrete examples of what to say and do would be a great service. Sifting through crap on threads is a bit of a pain in the ass.

[palani]

Palani,

Have you written a book about all this stuff? I would love to read up on it. A book with concrete examples of what to say and do would be a great service. Sifting through crap on threads is a bit of a pain in the ass.

Best is if you get in touch with your own source of law. Nothing I write is going to be entirely correct for you or anyone else but me. Learn the foundations and then follow your own instincts. Better yet is to have a group to reinforce your views and to role play.

[Gaillo]

I've beaten literally HUNDREDS of speeding tickets in my lifetime, through the simple expedients of NOT SPEEDING.

[palani]

I've beaten literally HUNDREDS of speeding tickets in my lifetime, through the simple expedients of NOT SPEEDING.

Now you are in BIG trouble. Each of those potential speeding tickets not paid now counts as INCOME. You owe the IRS $275,000 for fines and penalties so avoided. Not only that but you are acting in restraint of commerce, a federal crime. If it can be proved you acted with others to do so ... now we are talking RICO.

[Gaillo]

Now you are in BIG trouble. Each of those potential speeding tickets not paid now counts as INCOME. You owe the IRS $275,000 for fines and penalties so avoided. Not only that but you are acting in restraint of commerce, a federal crime. If it can be proved you acted with others to do so ... now we are talking RICO.

Meh...
Go tell someone who cares.

[palani]

Meh...
Go tell someone who cares.

In case you were not aware what I posted previously is exactly how charges are framed. The actual facts are not important. What is important is the response to notice.

Your response fails to rebut which leaves my post standing as truth.