Ancient HighTech Hammer enbeded in Rock.

[Serpo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=0JHX274mMJE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=0JHX274mMJE

[StreetsOfGold]

Reminds me of those IRON poles in India which don't rust. Pre-flood tech. At least he prefaced the "millions of years dating baloney" AS "evolutionary dating" since evolutionary dating is like truth from the government. It's non-existent.

[Shami-Amourae]

Assassins Creed seems more accurate. It shows the destruction of the antediluvian world:

Start @13:20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5G_i_d8pGk

[gunDriller]

DAMN ! i was wondering where i left that.

i can never find my tools.

[DMac]

Iron, chlorine and sulfur.

This is really interesting Serpo, thanks for the link.

[chad]

you'd think if they made such a kick ass alloy that couldn't rust that wouldn't use wood for the handle. :(??

[Cebu_4_2]

I read somewhere that this is a hoax. You know, while I'm on my journey checking my grains of salt.

Good point Chad lol.

[MAGNES]

......................

You just took that at face value with no evidence to back it up ?

That's a totally bogus hoax, he's just making stuff up,
this guy promotes " giants " too, he supposedly has one
of the femurs there with him.

People that promote stuff like this usually promote aliens, 2012doom,
new age crap, occult, anti Christian, corrupt history, lots of websites
promote all of these topics and related, one stop shopping, you will
never see them post or promote Pro Western history,
Pro IndoEuropean Man, etc, but attack and corrupt it instead.

[Celtic Rogue]

Come on this has to be true.... I believe that it is the hammer that god used to create the universe! What else could it be?

[Twisted Titan]

Not that I agree with him ....but I must Ask Magnes you don't take Any stock in alternative history?


Many cultures of the world have a period in their history when they talk about Gods and A great war or some variation.


Don't you take that as odd ?

[Serpo]

Not that I agree with him ....but I must Ask Magnes you don't take Any stock in alternative history?


Many cultures of the world have a period in their history when they talk about Gods and A great war or some variation.


Don't you take that as odd ?

Im basically interested in most things Magnes finds disturbing to his beliefs or faith,.......
Gobekli Tepe: The World’s First Temple?

Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey's stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization



Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html#ixzz1sQWoBA8S



http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/gobekli-tepe.html

[Neuro]

you'd think if they made such a kick ass alloy that couldn't rust that wouldn't use wood for the handle. :(??

Further I don't think wood even existed 4-500 million years ago, when this hammer was supposedly embedded in the rock... Not mentioning the fact that the wood have survived that long...

[Serpo]

you'd think if they made such a kick ass alloy that couldn't rust that wouldn't use wood for the handle. :(??

Wood is the best as it gives and can be replaced easily

[Neuro]

Further I don't think wood even existed 4-500 million years ago, when this hammer was supposedly embedded in the rock... Not mentioning the fact that the wood have survived that long...

Yes, checked it out, according to wikipedia wood in plants appeared in mid Devonian period which would mean sometime later than 400 million years ago...

[Neuro]

I just did a search on "iron chloride alloy", apparently iron chloride is used in labs to corrode even stainless steel alloys.... I think it is probably impossible that ironchloride could be used in an iron based alloy and give it anti-corroding properties, it seems like this would be the least likely compound to use in an iron rich compound that doesn't corrode...

This story is full of shit IMO!

[StreetsOfGold]

this guy promotes " giants " too, he supposedly has one
of the femurs there with him.

The Bible promotes Giants, you don't believe the Bible?
There are over 900 confirmed findings of Giant skeletons which are carted off to a Indiana Jones style warehouse soon afterwards.

Evidence of ancient giants (http://www.stevequayle.com/books/gen.intro.html)

Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Deuteronomy 2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;

Deuteronomy 3:13 And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, being the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.

Joshua 18:16 And the border came down to the end of the mountain that lieth before the valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants on the north, and descended to the valley of Hinnom, to the side of Jebusi on the south, and descended to Enrogel,

[Serpo]

Plenty of stuff lying about the planet that has no explanation

Lot of ancient history has been ignored as it dosnt conform with the history we where taught

Every once in a while archaeologists (and sometimes regular Joes) make some remarkable discoveries. Stunned, they are often unable to explain what it is they’ve found, how it came into existence, or ascertain its value. This is a comprehensive list of such artifacts; artifacts that many believe should have never existed given the discerned age/period of their creation.
The London hammer – a tool older than history

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/london-hammer-2.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/london-hammer-2.jpg)
In June 1936 (or 1934 according to some accounts), Max Hahn and his wife Emma were on a walk when they noticed a rock with wood protruding from its core. They decided to take the oddity home and later cracked it open with a hammer and a chisel. Ironically, what they found within seemed to be an archaic hammer of sorts. A team of archaeologists checked it, and as it turns out, the rock encasing the hammer was dated back more than 400 million year; the hammer itself turned out to be more than 500 million years old. Additionally, a section of the handle has begun the transformation to coal. Creationists, of course, were all over this. The hammer’s head, made of more than 96% iron, is far more pure than anything nature could have achieved without an assist from modern technology.
http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/london-hammer-1.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/london-hammer-1.jpg)Wood turning to coal


Pictures from here (http://home.texoma.net/%7Elinesden/cem/hamr/hamrfs.htm), copyright David Lines
The Antikythera mechanism – a Greek ancient computer

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/antikythera2.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/antikythera2.jpg)The Antikythera mechanism has been labeled the first known mechanical computer. Found in a shipwreck off the Greek island of Antikythera, it was designed to calculate astronomical positions. Consisting of a box with http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/antikythera.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/antikythera.jpg)dials on the outside and a very complex assembly of gear wheels mounted within, it’s about as complex as an 18th century top-notch clock. The level of sophistication utilized by the device has forced scientists to accept that their perceptions of ancient Greek engineering may be faulty. Nothing similar to this exists or is mentioned in any known writings from the period of its creation. Based on the knowledge we do have, this mechanism shouldn’t even exist. According to Professor Michael Edmunds of Cardiff University, who led the team studying the mechanism:
“This device is just extraordinary, the only thing of its kind. The design is beautiful, the astronomy is exactly right. The way the mechanics are designed just makes your jaw drop. Whoever has done this has done it extremely carefully.” He added: “…in terms of historic and scarcity value, I have to regard this mechanism as being more valuable than the Mona Lisa.”
The Dropa Stones


http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/dropa-stone.jpghttp://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/dropastone2.jpgIn 1938, an expedition led by archaeologist Dr. Chi Pu Tei into the Baian-Kara-Ula in China made an astonishing discovery. Nearby caves held traces of the ancient culture which once occupied them. Buried by the dusts of time, hundreds of stone disks lay scattered about the cave’s interior. Nothing too spectacular you may think, but the disks turned out to be eerily similar to phonograph records — nine inches in diameter, a circle cut into their centers and an obvious spiral groove. They are believed to be more than 10,000 years old. But the spiral, as it turns out, is composed of tiny hieroglyphics. When studied and translated, it was revealed that the discs tell the amazing story of spaceships that crashed into the mountains, piloted by people who called themselves the Dropa.
The Saqqara bird – an Egyptian plane

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/saqqara-bird.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/saqqara-bird.jpg)Discovered during the 1898 excavation of the Pa-di-Imen tomb in Saqqara, Egypt, the Saqqara bird is (as you could have guessed) a bird shaped artifact made from the wood of a sycamore tree. Weighing in at just under 40 grams and with a wingspan of more than 7 inches, it’s been dated back to approximately 200 BC. Lack of documentation and other data has led to some speculation. In fact, the ancient egyptians were well aware of the principles of aviation. Was it simply the toy of an affluent Egyptian child? Did it serve some kind of ceremonial purpose? Regardless, the object has few realistic bird traits. With its vertical tail, resembling that of an airplane or glider, it resembles no known bird. Scientists came to the conclusion that it couldn’t be effective as an aircraft due to lack of technology, but it could have in fact been a glider.
The Baghdad battery – a 2000 year old battery

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/baghdad_battery_lg.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/baghdad_battery_lg.jpg)This device consists of a 5-1/2-inch high clay vessel, inside of which was a copper cylinder held in place by asphalt. Within the cylinder, archaeologists found an oxidized iron rod. In 1940, Wilhelm König (the German director of the National Museum of Iraq) suggested that these could be galvanic cells, perhaps used for electroplating gold onto silver objects. Nobody has been able to prove him wrong, especially since it only needed to be filled with an acid or alkaline substance to produce an electric charge.

[Serpo]

Unexplainable fossils and metal objects

Geology is a relatively “new” science. The progress and developments made through experimentation are absolutely remarkable and have helped in many other fields. Still, there are some things yet to be explained. Though the honeycomb pattern of paleodictyon is already well known, we remain stumped as to the creation of such and more questions are being raised.
http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ichno_paleodictyon.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ichno_paleodictyon.jpg)paleodictyon



http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/saint_jean_de_livet_metallic_tube.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/saint_jean_de_livet_metallic_tube.jpg)drawing of metallic tube

For example, a fossil of a human handprint was found in limestone estimated to be more than 110 million years, a fossilized human finger with just as much, and the aparent discovery of a human footprint that possibly sported a sandal which dates to more than 300 million years ago. These amazing fossilized imprints/remains have left the scientific community scratching their collective heads. Not to mention the 65 million year old semi-ovoid metallic tubes being dug out of France, the unusual block of coal discovered 124 years ago which contained a metal cube that couldn’t have formed naturally within the lump, and many more such things (http://www.rae.org/ch05tud.html)
The Piri Reis map


http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/piri-reis-map.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/piri-reis-map.jpg)In 1929, a group of historians made what can only be described as an amazing discovery, written on the skin of a gazelle. After study and research, they found that it is a genuine map drawn in 1513 by Piri Reis, a well documented admiral of the Turkish navy. He depicts Europe and North Africa, the coast of Brazil, several islands (Azores, Canary Islands, and the mythical island of Antilia), and even Antarctica, which was thought to be discovered more than 300 years later. The most puzzling thing is not that it shows we need to rethink the chronology for a number of exploratory discoveries, but that it describes Antarctica’s topography as not being masked by ice and in great detail. The last time that occured was more than 6000 years ago. Tell me then. How did a Turkish admiral from half a millenium ago map a continent that’s been covered by ice for the last 6000 years?
The Nazca drawings


http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nazca-lines.gif (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nazca-lines.gif)The Nazca drawings (or lines) definitely have something otherworldly about them. Discovered in 1930 — when the US inaugurated two new commercial lines — they cover 450 square km and some measure more than 200m in length. They depict lines, geometrical figures, animals and figures that we haven’t entirely figured out yet (many believe them to be constellations). Whether made for the gods or for some other reason, it’s obvious that they were meant to be seen from the sky. Scientists have had trouble trying to figure out how they could have been designed and created without somebody directing the work from above. We can only marvel at these amazing figures and continue to wonder how and why they were created by a people called the Nasca.



http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nasca-lines-3.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nasca-lines-3.jpg)
http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nasca-lines-4.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nasca-lines-4.jpg)
The mysterious city of Nan Madol – a city built on corals

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nan-madol-1.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nan-madol-1.jpg)The city of Nan Madol was built between 200 B.C. – 800 A.D., on a coral reef near Micronesia. It consisted of about 100 artificial islands made from huge basalt blocks and connected with viaducts. From the start, it dazzles us with a mix of the bizarre and grandeur. From the start it seems incongruous; 250 million tons of offshore basalt in the middle of nowhere. How were these huge blocks quarried, transported, and placed in the perfect spot? Even by today’s standards, it would an impressive engineering feat. Additionally, the reasoning behind its development remains a mystery. Archaelogists have few clues as to what happened to the civilization responsibile for its creation.
http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nan-madol-2-300x272.png (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nan-madol-2.png)
The Sacsayhuaman walls

http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/450px-sacsayhuaman_pixinnnet.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/450px-sacsayhuaman_pixinnnet.jpg)Near the city of Cuzco, more than 3500 meters above sea level, these amazing walls first fascinated the Spanish conquistadores. They were astonished to discover how these people who, according to them, were ignorant and lacked the ability of logical reasoning http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sacsayhuaman.jpg (http://www.zmescience.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/sacsayhuaman.jpg)required to have built such wonders. They are in fact 3 concentric walls, the average being roughly 360 meters in length and 6 meters in height, made from limestone blocks that weigh about 300 tons each. They didn’t use mortar or any other kind of cement to bind the walls, but they are carved and placed in such a way packed so closely that even a sharp knife can’t be wedged between 2 blocks. Scientists have tried to achieve this at a much smaller scale and have failed in their efforts to replicate the tight joints of the Sacsayhuaman walls.http://www.zmescience.com/other/most-amazing-unexplained-artifacts/

[Spectrism]

I just did a search on "iron chloride alloy", apparently iron chloride is used in labs to corrode even stainless steel alloys.... I think it is probably impossible that ironchloride could be used in an iron based alloy and give it anti-corroding properties, it seems like this would be the least likely compound to use in an iron rich compound that doesn't corrode...

This story is full of shit IMO!

Anyone who talks about millions of years "evolutionary dating" already made it clear that he has no idea what he is talking about. It looks like this may have been a tool that was lost during the great flood / cataclysm of 5000 years ago. The rock is sedimentery that was probably dried and sealed mud in less than 100 years.

The elemental analysis (I think that is what they did) said there was also sulphur in the alloy. What is overlooked here is the surface sediment surrounding the iron. It seems that the iron (and wood) were trapped in a very dry (anhydrous) and anaerobic environment. The contents of the metal really don't matter if the environment is non-corrosive, non-oxidative.

[Cebu_4_2]

Giants huh? I got that covered in my youtube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KApsHDorcHc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KApsHDorcHc

[Neuro]

Spectrism, as you know I am not a believer in the biblical account, but your explanation is by far more believable, than this being a 500 million year hammer!

[MAGNES]

Not that I agree with him ....but I must Ask Magnes you don't take Any stock in alternative history?

First of all this is not history, but bogus crap with nothing to
back it up, this is not the kind of stuff that is classified as history
but hoax, if you can accept this crap you can accept anything.

Second, notice how Serpo changes the subject later, builds a bogus strawman.
You need leaps of " faith and belief " to believe hoaxes like this.
Hoaxes like this are some peoples religion too, they take it personally
when you challenge the information, their response is ad hominem.

There are many good archaeological finds, I referred to this in
my previous post, people that promote nonsense like this hammer
have an MO, " the Sumerians were aliens ", " aliens built the Pyramids " ,
they corrupt real finds with nonsense, people that promote Sitchin too,
who is a loon and has been deconstructed, what I spoke to in these two
posts we saw this on gim with goldie and skyvike, there are whole websites
with the related I mentioned earlier, there is a very deliberate MO.

As far as giants, I have covered this before, " giants " are in the Iliad
too, so far there is no evidence of this, everything is a hoax online,
the Ancient Greeks were also Paleontologists, I have posted a book
on here about this where a Prof documents this, they give life to some
of the prehistoric they uncover in their stories as monsters, many of the
bones may look like a mans as well, like some femurs.

Here is some real Indo European history and finds I object to being
attacked with bogus nonsense from loons.
China's Savage War With Space Aliens (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58249-China-s-Savage-War-With-Space-Aliens)

Serpo has a lot of hoax threads.
He seems to spend a lot of time on this.



The Bible promotes Giants

Goliath was a Philistine, a Dorian, they did look like Giants compared
to the midgets that went around like locusts robbing and murdering
everyone for their wealth, the heebs are happy to take credit for this
and write about it, they are proud of their stealing and destruction.
mak, mag, meg, live in nomenclature for a reason.