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nunaem
19th April 2012, 04:23 PM
..your focus, your energy, your motivation, your testosterone, your attractiveness to women, your charisma, your sociability, your sexual performance, and God knows what else.

God sees you masturbating over there! Cut it out and see how much your life improves.

iOWNme
19th April 2012, 04:27 PM
If REAL men cared as much about porn and masturbating as we all do about Liberty and Private Property, this would be a whole hell of a lot nicer place. Dont ya think?

Seriously, forget all the tanks and guns. The NWO only needs to send an army of Swedish super models equipped with fake boobs, blond hair, fat lips, big asses and AK-47's. They could be wearing Victoria's Secret combat uniforms with G-strings. We wouldnt stand a chance.

nunaem
19th April 2012, 04:32 PM
If REAL men cared as much about porn and masturbating as we all do about Liberty and Private Property, this would be a whole hell of a lot nicer place. Dont ya think?

Seriously, forget all the tanks and guns. The NWO only needs to send an army of Swedish super models equipped with fake boobs, blond hair, fat lips, big asses and AK-47's. They could be wearing Victoria's Secret combat uniforms with G-strings. We wouldnt stand a chance.

Why do you think Jews are behind all of the pornography? Porn pacifies and pussifies men. If they allowed their sexual energy to build up they would start getting pissed off about things like GoD.

osoab
19th April 2012, 04:32 PM
besides....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

nunaem
19th April 2012, 04:40 PM
besides....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

Your testosterone gets pumped out along with that semen. Low testosterone men = good slaves. That's why arabs castrated their eunuch slaves. Masturbation is castration.

http://www.inmalafide.com/blog/2012/02/20/how-to-stop-masturbating/

ximmy
19th April 2012, 04:42 PM
are you guys serious, is this true.. I know the joo is behind the porn industry and it has ill effects on the peeps, but masturbation??

nunaem
19th April 2012, 04:43 PM
are you guys serious, is this true.. I know the joo is behind the porn industry and it has ill effects on the peeps, but masturbation??

I have first-hand knowledge on the effects of masturbation.

ximmy
19th April 2012, 04:47 PM
I have first-hand knowledge on the effects of masturbation.

There must be factors involved...
what is one masturbating too?
how often?
when (during work, in bed)?

Horn
19th April 2012, 05:00 PM
Does moderation count here, or does it depend on how rapid the movements are?

nunaem
19th April 2012, 05:04 PM
There must be factors involved...
what is one masturbating too?
how often?
when (during work, in bed)?

Porn is worse than your imagination. See: http://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

T levels peak after 7 days of masturbation abstention. So abstaining for more than a week is a good idea.

I don't think the time of day matters much.

muffin
19th April 2012, 05:07 PM
Boredom's not a burden anyone should bear. Constant over stimulation numbs me and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not enough. I need more. Nothing seems to satisfy. I don't want it. I just need it.

nunaem
19th April 2012, 05:12 PM
Does moderation count here, or does it depend on how rapid the movements are?

I don't think it matters. An ejaculation is an ejaculation and your testosterone still ends up in a tissue.

ximmy
19th April 2012, 05:17 PM
This is very strange to me, I don't get it ( I understand internet porn addiction) .

what I mean is...

Why can a guy workout with weights and get bigger muscles? (does his testosterone level go down?)
He does not work out and get weaker? ...he gets stronger...

I'm trying to apply the same concept (something that includes testosterone levels)

Libertytree
19th April 2012, 05:18 PM
Don't forget...God kills little baby angels too everytime someone (male) masturbates. What happens when a female masturbates? A little baby demon is born?

TheNocturnalEgyptian
19th April 2012, 05:19 PM
Boredom's not a burden anyone should bear. Constant over stimulation numbs me and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not enough. I need more. Nothing seems to satisfy. I don't want it. I just need it.

To feel, to breath, to know that I'm alive.

Horn
19th April 2012, 05:23 PM
I don't think it matters. An ejaculation is an ejaculation and your testosterone still ends up in a tissue.

I think its the self act that is detrimental.

Sex once a day, and ejaculation with your loved one is divine.

These are Horn's controlling it rules. :)

nunaem
19th April 2012, 05:27 PM
This is very strange to me, I don't get it ( I understand internet porn addiction) .

what I mean is...

Why can a guy workout with weights and get bigger muscles? (does his testosterone level go down?)
He does not work out and get weaker? ...he gets stronger...

I'm trying to apply the same concept (something that includes testosterone levels)

It's a mystery to me as well. Having sex with women actually increases men's T. Our bodies can tell the difference somehow.

General of Darkness
19th April 2012, 05:27 PM
Doesn't doing ass to mouth accomplish the same thing? LMMFAO.

Horn
19th April 2012, 05:32 PM
It's a mystery to me as well. Having sex with women actually increases men's T. Our bodies can tell the difference somehow.

Tempering steel.

If you don't use it you're going to loose it...

Monks are bald.

Book
19th April 2012, 05:49 PM
what I mean is...

Why can a guy workout with weights and get bigger muscles? (does his testosterone level go down?) He does not work out and get weaker? ...he gets stronger...I'm trying to apply the same concept (something that includes testosterone levels)



http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/thumb.axd/150_6485/B1C15CF5600E4B3B8AAB479A80438343.jpg

Your theory demonstrated by this image?

joboo
19th April 2012, 06:05 PM
..your focus, your energy, your motivation, your testosterone, your attractiveness to women, your charisma, your sociability, your sexual performance, and God knows what else.

God sees you masturbating over there! Cut it out and see how much your life improves.


I like to look at arguments logically.

Everything in bold is the exact same with intercourse.

Try sexing up a nymphette a few times a day, and see what you have left over to do other things.

How it makes someone less attractive does not add up.

Charisma, and sociability plausible depending on the person.

osoab
19th April 2012, 06:12 PM
Doesn't doing ass to mouth accomplish the same thing? LMMFAO.

Nice one Randall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQEQUi9NM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQEQUi9NM

General of Darkness
19th April 2012, 06:38 PM
Nice one Randall.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQEQUi9NM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoRQEQUi9NM

I know you had to google dat shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXkxRtrpL0

vacuum
19th April 2012, 06:39 PM
This is very strange to me, I don't get it ( I understand internet porn addiction) .

what I mean is...

Why can a guy workout with weights and get bigger muscles? (does his testosterone level go down?)
He does not work out and get weaker? ...he gets stronger...

I'm trying to apply the same concept (something that includes testosterone levels)
Everyone is allotted a certain finite amount of creative energy in their life. It can be channeled towards reproduction, which in men means it is directly drained during sex. It can also be stored up and focused towards some other creative activity such as art or science. Storing this energy also makes you more attractive because you emanate it (sometimes it's called animal magnetism).

With masturbation you are just draining off your energy and accomplishing nothing.

Things like muscle development are purely physical and aren't the same energy. Muscles can even be grown in the lab you know.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
19th April 2012, 06:58 PM
I do what I gotta do to keep from getting prostate cancer.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
19th April 2012, 07:17 PM
Everyone is allotted a certain finite amount of creative energy in their life. It can be channeled towards reproduction, which in men means it is directly drained during sex. It can also be stored up and focused towards some other creative activity such as art or science. Storing this energy also makes you more attractive because you emanate it (sometimes it's called animal magnetism).

With masturbation you are just draining off your energy and accomplishing nothing.

Things like muscle development are purely physical and aren't the same energy. Muscles can even be grown in the lab you know.


You refer here to the "Tejas" ?

You are correct that many cultures have said that one of the paths to enlightenment is celibacy. Chinese Culture has it, Indian Culture has it, European Culture has it. Many claim this is the key to the inner power of the shaolin, the qi gong practitioners, the yogis.

osoab
19th April 2012, 07:36 PM
I know you had to google dat shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXkxRtrpL0

Dude, I saw the original clerks on the big screen at an indie theater.

vacuum
19th April 2012, 08:03 PM
You refer here to the "Tejas" ?

I'm not sure what that is, but it's probably the same thing.

General of Darkness
19th April 2012, 08:17 PM
Dude, I saw the original clerks on the big screen at an indie theater.

Well that's fine and all, but did you see the Leprechaun?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZfyrIPw3wY

BrewTech
19th April 2012, 08:38 PM
I try to limit ejaculations to a couple a week, and then only at bedtime, so I can sleep off the lethargy...

I also supplement with DHEA to try to maintain T-levels.

Good nutrition and physical activity is the only way I can keep those levels acceptable and from becoming a mushbrain.

PatColo
19th April 2012, 08:46 PM
OP's no joke, wankers! {0}

18 April 2012 Last updated at 17:30 GMT
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more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17761210

Son-of-Liberty
19th April 2012, 10:25 PM
I don't think all the effects of masturbation are related to lowered testosterone levels. There are other hormones and chemicals at play as well. I believe prolactin increases. This is one reason for decereased sexual performance and lowered energy. It makes you sleepy. Also serotonin is released as well so you feel good. So it is understandable that if I guy is wanking it all the time he is not going to be pissed offed or motivated to do much else.


First, the obvious reasons for sex’s somnolent sway: the act frequently takes place at night, in a bed, and is, after all, physically exhausting (often more so for the man than the woman, although this certainly varies). So when sex is over, it’s natural for a guy to feel sleepy.

Secondly, research using positron emission tomography (PET) scans has shown that in order for a person to reach orgasm, a primary requirement is to let go of “all fear and anxiety.” Doing so also tends to be relaxing and might explain the tendency to snooze.

Then there is the biochemistry of the orgasm itself. Research shows that during ejaculation, men release a cocktail of brain chemicals, including norepinephrine, serotonin, oxytocin, vasopressin, nitric oxide (NO), and the hormone prolactin. The release of prolactin is linked to the feeling of sexual satisfaction, and it also mediates the “recovery time” that men are well aware of—the time a guy must wait before “giving it another go.” Studies have also shown that men deficient in prolactin have faster recovery times.

Prolactin levels are naturally higher during sleep, and animals injected with the chemical become tired immediately. This suggests a strong link between prolactin and sleep, so it’s likely that the hormone’s release during orgasm causes men to feel sleepy.

http://scienceline.org/2006/09/ask-wenner-sex/

Son-of-Liberty
19th April 2012, 10:28 PM
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/ceiling.jpg

TheNocturnalEgyptian
19th April 2012, 11:01 PM
I'm not sure what that is, but it's probably the same thing.

It [tejas] is the sanskrit word for etheric energy.

http://montalk.net/gnosis/199/7-dawn-of-a-new-cosmic-day

This article mentions tejas repeatedly. in a way, the whole gnosis series of montalk.net is really about tejas, or etheric energy. Of course, that is a big conversation.


Lot's of cultures believed celibacy lead to more energy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt8pxv2Z1os

Cebu_4_2
19th April 2012, 11:21 PM
I do what I gotta do to keep from getting prostate cancer.

I thought about this theory a long time ago. Seems that most men that get this also have not been very sexually active. When you are not exercising it the blood just sits in there and doesn't circulate well at all. They have exercises for this which in short is like cutting off a piss, but many times per workout.

vacuum
19th April 2012, 11:52 PM
I thought about this theory a long time ago. Seems that most men that get this also have not been very sexually active. When you are not exercising it the blood just sits in there and doesn't circulate well at all. They have exercises for this which in short is like cutting off a piss, but many times per workout.
I kind of believe this guy's theories:
http://www.new-holistic-medicine.com/cause-of-prostate-cancer.html

vacuum
19th April 2012, 11:58 PM
It [tejas] is the sanskrit word for etheric energy.

http://montalk.net/gnosis/199/7-dawn-of-a-new-cosmic-day

This article mentions tejas repeatedly. in a way, the whole gnosis series of montalk.net is really about tejas, or etheric energy. Of course, that is a big conversation.
Yes, great series. It's basically that, to the extent that we can assign words to something of which our intellect is but a subset.

PatColo
20th April 2012, 12:39 AM
Whether or how often you wank aside, there's no question that porn/etc & the wanking it incites, is a tool of psychological warfare... ref Explosion of free internet pron, & the 'lluminati: Let Them Eat Pron? (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33035-Explosion-of-free-internet-pron-amp-the-lluminati-Let-Them-Eat-Pron/page2)

Therein ^ I posted these replies,


I just stumbled onto this: audio interview with this author:

E. Michael Jones (http://www.amazon.com/E.-Michael-Jones/e/B001K7ZM78/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1)

who wrote, among many books,

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41REH3KM9XL._SY90_.jpg (http://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_4)
Libido Dominandi: Sexual Liberation & Political Control (http://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4)
Paperback (http://www.amazon.com/Libido-Dominandi-Liberation-Political-Control/dp/1587314657/ref=ntt_at_ep_edition_1_4): $18.48
April 15, 2005
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Expand See Book Details (http://www.amazon.com/E.-Michael-Jones/e/B001K7ZM78/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1325245728&sr=8-1#)

See "Listen Now" link below for MP3 audio, 1 hour,


http://jettandjahn.com/wp-content/themes/Political/images/PostHeaderIcon.png The Purpose of Pornography (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2011/07/the-purpose-of-pornography/)


http://jettandjahn.com/wp-content/themes/Political/images/PostDateIcon.png July 4th, 2011 | Author: Brighid Monahan (http://www.jettandjahn.com/tag/pornography/#)


For the Fourth of July – Is America Really Free?
In this discussion about Libido Dominandi featuring E. Michael Jones, we see how the elites use pornography as a form of social control masquerading as freedom.
http://www.jettandjahn.com/images/heidi.jpg (http://www.jettandjahn.com/images/heidi.jpg)Control?

Notes:
Israel broadcasts pornography after Ramallah invasion
American freedom as pornography
Media wars – Catholics vs Jews
Various

Listen Now (http://www.jettandjahn.com/audio/libidodominandi.mp3)
Related Posts:



The Marquis de Sade (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2010/11/the-marquis-de-sade/)
Pregnant Pornstar Haley Cummings Continues Filming Interracial (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2011/07/pregnant-pornstar-haley-cummings-continues-filming-interracial/)
Mary Wollstonecraft and Feminism (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2010/11/mary-wollstonecraft-and-feminism/)
Adam Weishaupt and The Illuminati (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2010/11/adam-weishaupt-and-the-illuminati/)
Axis Sally and Torture Porn (http://www.jettandjahn.com/2011/12/axis-sally-and-torture-porn/)



^ in that audio interview, Jones notes that in the Israeli assault on Ramallah in 2002(?)- one of the first things they did after the bombing stopped was commandeer the TV stations, and broadcast hardcore porn 24/7 across all stations. And people were not allowed to leave their homes. At least one station's original operators were able to run a scroll across the bottom of the screen apologizing, saying the Israelis had commandeered the station and were forcing them to broadcast the smut.

I also heard discussed in another recent podcast I listened to, that after the bombing in Bagdad stopped in the '03 zio-invasion, porn/sex-toy shops mushroomed across Baghdad virtually overnight... like the "stock" was pre-loaded on trucks so these new sex shops could pop their doors open immediately.

So as I speculated in the Explosion of free internet pron, & the 'lluminati: Let Them Eat Pron? (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33035-Explosion-of-free-internet-pron-amp-the-lluminati-Let-Them-Eat-Pron/page2) thread, yes Loise, there is much more to the internet's vast, free click-N-wank red light district than just the normal supply/demand/free-market/etc economics in play there... it's plainly subsidized by TPTB, and is a form of psycho/social/physio-warfare on all who indulge in it [kof kof].

PatColo
20th April 2012, 12:43 AM
I see where DMac posted this in the internet pron thread, re what I ref'd above about the Ramallah assault,


Israeli Army Broadcasts Porn, Hebrew Propaganda to Besieged Palestinians (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/islamiccommunitynet/message/2678)
Sunday, March 31 2002 @ 12:47 AM GMT

RAMALLAH, West Bank: Porn movies and programs in Hebrew are
being broadcast by Israeli troops who have taken over three
Palestinian television stations of Ramallah, irate residents of the
besieged West Bank town have told AFP.

The offices of three local television and radio stations were
occupied by soldiers yesterday morning, a few hours after tanks
and hundreds of troops stormed the town in Israel's biggest
offensive against the Palestinian Authority and its leader Yasser
Arafat.

The soldiers started broadcasting the porn clips -- considered
extremely offensive by most Palestinians -- intermittently this
afternoon from the Al-Watan, Ammwaj, and Al-Sharaq channels,
the residents said.

"The pornographic movies started on Al-Watan television at
around 3:30 pm," one 34-year-old Palestinian mother named
Reema told AFP.

"I have six children at home, they have nowhere to go with
what is going on here and can't even watch TV," she said
angrily.

Anita, a 52-year-old mother of three children, complained about
"the deliberate psychological damage caused by these
broadcasts".

"I am furious, these are the people who are shooting at us that
also play this disgusting trick on us," she said.

"We are desperate for news and constantly flipping channels and
get these terrible pictures instead," adding that videos of the
intifada were also shown backwards with "ideal terrorism" written
in red across the screen.

"Luckily, there is no electricity in half of Ramallah," she said from
her house in east Jerusalem where the channels are also
available.

A fourth local station, whose premises were not seized by the
army, ran a written message across its screen letting people
know it was the Israelis who were behind the graphic scenes.

"Anything currently shown on Al-Watan and other local TV
channels has nothing to do with Palestinian programs but is
being broadcast by the Israeli occupation forces, we urge
parents to take precautions," the message said.

From Australia’s Sunday Mail

osoab
20th April 2012, 01:40 AM
Well that's fine and all, but did you see the Leprechaun?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZfyrIPw3wY

Here you go "Snowball". ;D


I've seen "Hell Comes to Frog Town". Does that count?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_pBD-1P9c8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_pBD-1P9c8

iOWNme
20th April 2012, 05:38 AM
Boredom's not a burden anyone should bear. Constant over stimulation numbs me and I wouldn't have it any other way. It's not enough. I need more. Nothing seems to satisfy. I don't want it. I just need it.

You need fisting?

:)

Elbow deep or shoulder deep?

osoab
20th April 2012, 05:41 AM
You need fisting?

:)

Elbow deep or shoulder deep?

DUDE! Delete your post and I will delete my quote of yours.

She's a lady. Be polite.

edit to add, she is also a wife a forum member, granted that should not make any difference.

brosil
20th April 2012, 05:48 AM
You folks worry about the damnedest things. You must all have tiny prostates.

Horn
20th April 2012, 06:40 AM
Everyone is allotted a certain finite amount of creative energy in their life.

Creativity is an endless well needing stimulation to produce.

The only limitations are faculties that include physical & mental maintenance.

madfranks
20th April 2012, 07:47 AM
DUDE! Delete your post and I will delete my quote of yours.

She's a lady. Be polite.

edit to add, she is also a wife a forum member, granted that should not make any difference.

He's quoting a Tool song, they all are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07pLGIgyfjw

SLV^GLD
20th April 2012, 07:59 AM
Haha, he got, ah, er Maynard-rolled?

osoab
20th April 2012, 08:00 AM
He's quoting a Tool song, they all are.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07pLGIgyfjw

I didn't hear Suri's post within the song. I only listened about 2/3 through.

Posting the song earlier may have helped. Especially for those of us that didn't know.

I still don't think his words used any discretion at all and were in extremely poor taste.

SLV^GLD
20th April 2012, 08:12 AM
The real point of the song is found in these lyrics:

Something kinda sad about the way that things have come to be.
Desensitized to everything; what became of subtlety?
How can it mean anything to me if I really don't feel anything at all?
I'll keep digging till I feel something.

But yes, the entendre in the lyrics is about fisting which is underscored by the song's title.

muffin
20th April 2012, 09:15 AM
But yes, the entendre in the lyrics is about fisting which is underscored by the song's title.
yep, pretty disturbing song. i just always thought the part that i quoted was more suited to masturbation, IMO.... i can't help but love tool. eulogy is my favorite song by them... had a dog named maynard at one point too.

sorry, osoab. i didn't mean to confuse anyone :-[ i appreciate the chivalry tho!! i really do.

osoab
20th April 2012, 09:44 AM
yep, pretty disturbing song. i just always thought the part that i quoted was more suited to masturbation, IMO.... i can't help but love tool. eulogy is my favorite song by them... had a dog named maynard at one point too.

sorry, osoab. i didn't mean to confuse anyone :-[ i appreciate the chivalry tho!! i really do.

It's been a bad start to the day for me. I may have overreacted, but with the issues ximmy has been having, I felt it better to say something.

General of Darkness
20th April 2012, 10:03 AM
http://www.roflcat.com/images/cats/godkills.jpg

Neuro
20th April 2012, 02:36 PM
You folks worry about the damnedest things. You must all have tiny prostates.

It is better than having an hypertrophied prostate, it makes it difficult to pee... {0}

How many times a night do you go?

Horn
20th April 2012, 03:00 PM
Sensitivity goes along the same lines as those T cells mentioned before.

Don't use them, you loose them also. Actually, I think its easier to loose them that way.

Reminds me of the Protestant guy in the Monty Python flick Osoab posted earlier, a celibate but having full access to all stimuli.

JJ.G0ldD0t
20th April 2012, 03:00 PM
I do what I gotta do to keep from getting prostate cancer.

jew lie

iOWNme
20th April 2012, 03:23 PM
DUDE! Delete your post and I will delete my quote of yours.

She's a lady. Be polite.

edit to add, she is also a wife a forum member, granted that should not make any difference.

Osab,

I NEVER personally attack members. I was only adding on to her joke about the lyrics.

Free speech is a bitch, aint it?

A LOT of Tools songs are about the anus. The truth hurts, dont it?

"I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit, blood and cum on my hands." - Tool, Prison Sex

Gaillo
20th April 2012, 03:28 PM
Meh...
At least with masturbation, you're doing it with someone you like! ;)
Henny and I have a healthy sex life together, and both of us still masturbate, alone and together. I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of a natural biological behavior! ::)

General of Darkness
20th April 2012, 03:49 PM
Meh...
At least with masturbation, you're doing it with someone you like! ;)
Henny and I have a healthy sex life together, and both of us still masturbate, alone and together. I don't understand why people make such a big deal out of a natural biological behavior! ::)

Sicko.

Gaillo
20th April 2012, 03:56 PM
Sicko.

Coming from someone who stabs dicks... I'll take that as a compliment! ;D

Large Sarge
20th April 2012, 04:15 PM
hmmm,

from my own research, t-levels, and its effect depend on receptor site affinity, and number of sites.

both have some other variables involved.

Imgaine low tesosterone as similar to type 2 diabetes, your levels are not really that low, your receptor sites are fried,

type 2 diabetes plenty of insulin, receptor sites are fried

joboo
20th April 2012, 04:40 PM
I had to fap just to get past page three.

Horn
20th April 2012, 06:47 PM
receptor sites are fried

One could construe this all back thru the central nervous system to the root.

Which in this case would be the reason why you are masturbating.

Not to be construed exclusively in your own self contracting case, LS :)

Libertytree
20th April 2012, 06:58 PM
Ain't nobody ever heard of gettin' backed up? All those night time erections need to be vacated or that semen goes stale, ya gotta keep that semen fresh or it goes rancid!

Osiris
20th April 2012, 07:29 PM
Night time erections? Isn't it normally mornings?

nunaem
20th April 2012, 07:34 PM
It makes a big difference whether you jackoff to porn vs. your imagination. This is explained here in relation to the coolidge effect: http://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

Novel (new) porn available in massive quantities (thanks, jews) is extremely unnatural.

osoab
20th April 2012, 08:24 PM
Osab,

I NEVER personally attack members. I was only adding on to her joke about the lyrics.

Free speech is a bitch, aint it?

A LOT of Tools songs are about the anus. The truth hurts, dont it?

"I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit, blood and cum on my hands." - Tool, Prison Sex

Hmmm....

Well, not everyone got that you were talking "Tool" lyrics.

Free Speech? There is a fine line between Free Speech and being a jackass.

This morning when I read your post, I thought the latter because I didn't know y'all were discussing lyrics.

Bringing up "Free Speech is a bitch" is a jackass thing to say.

What about the "truth" should hurt me?

Maybe we should discuss that Tool and the lyrics you are so fond of are foisted upon us by zio-media. If it wasn't for zio-media promoting the band, would many know the lyrics are about deviants? Bigger question, does the lyrics about deviancy help promote and inspire more deviancy?

Horn
21st April 2012, 04:32 AM
It makes a big difference whether you jackoff to porn vs. your imagination.

Neither of which involves olfactory sensory perception.

A large portion of the negative pole energy. :)

Santa
21st April 2012, 07:16 AM
It makes a big difference whether you jackoff to porn vs. your imagination. This is explained here in relation to the coolidge effect: http://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

Novel (new) porn available in massive quantities (thanks, jews) is extremely unnatural.

Masturbation, is not the real issue. The real issue is "Internet addiction."


I can't emphasize this enough - Internet porn addiction is not a "sex addiction (http://yourbrainonporn.com/porn-addiction-not-sex-addiction-and-why-it-matters)" - it's an Internet addiction (http://yourbrainonporn.com/politics-porn-and-addiction-neuroscience). Although masturbation is often involved, this is an addiction to novelty projected through a screen.
Drugs aren’t the only addictions (http://yourbrainonporn.com/asam-definition-of-addiction-long-version-2011)

It’s common knowledge that dopamine-raising substances, such as alcohol or cocaine, can create addictions. Yet only about 10-15% of humans or rats that use addictive drugs (except nicotine) ever become addicts. Does this mean the rest of us are safe from addiction? When it comes to substance abuse, perhaps yes.
Yet when it comes to unrestricted access to superstimulating versions of natural rewards, such as junk food, (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-addiction-food-kennys-ratsD2-lay1) or even video games (http://yourbrainonporn.com/ominous-news-for-porn-users-internet-addiction-atrophies-brains), the answer may be no, although certainly not every user gets hooked.
The reason highly stimulating versions of food (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-food-addiction-mark-hyman-2010) and sex can hook us—even if we're not otherwise susceptible to addiction—is that our reward circuitry evolved to drive us toward food and sex, not drugs. Today’s high fat/sugar foods (75% of American adults are overweight, 35% obese (http://surveysez.com/joomla/index.php/health/134-percent-americans-overweight.html)) and Internet porn (you’re reading this) have the potential to hook (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-sex-internet-most-addictive-2006) even more people than do drugs. These supernormal versions (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deirdre-barrett/supernormal-stimuli_b_613466.html)of natural rewards can override our brain’s satiation mechanisms—the “I’m done” feeling—because concentrated calories and fertilization opportunities are your genes’ top priorities.
All addictions lead to the same major brain changes

http://www.reuniting.info/images/brain_limbic150.jpgRecent research reveals that behavioral addictions (food addiction (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-food-addiction), (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-addiction-food-kennys-ratsD2-lay2) pathological gambling (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-addiction-gambling), video gaming (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-addiction-video-game), and Internet addiction (http://yourbrainonporn.com/internet-addiction-studies-summaries)) and substance addictions involve the same major alterations (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-addiction-general-3-dysfunctions-2010)in brain anatomy and chemistry. These include:


Desensitization (http://yourbrainonporn.com/reversing-numbed-pleasure-response-desensitization)("A numbed pleasure response"): Among other changes, dopamine and dopamine (D2) receptors declinein the brain's reward circuitry, leaving the addict less sensitive to pleasure (http://pnhw.psychiatryonline.org/content/39/11/32.full), and "hungry" for dopamine-raising activities/substances of all kinds. The addict then tends to neglect interests, stimuli, and behaviors that were once of high personal relevance.
Sensitization: (http://yourbrainonporn.com/why-do-i-find-porn-more-exciting-partner) ("A super memory of pleausre"): Rewired nerve connections cause the reward circuitry to go wild in response to addiction related cues or thoughts. This Pavlovian memory makes the addiction far more compelling than other activities in the addict's life.
Hypofrontality (http://www.youtube.com/embed/jkOl7QIXxlQ)("Willpower erodes"): Frontal-lobe (http://www.neuroskills.com/images/frontlobe11.jpg) gray matter and functioning decrease (http://yourbrainonporn.com/garys-research-hypofrontality), reducing both impulse control and the ability to foresee consequences.

Horn
22nd April 2012, 05:58 PM
The real issue is "Internet addiction."

Thread killer.

And I was having fun spooge'n all over this thread.

PatColo
23rd April 2012, 06:59 AM
every time you fart, well...http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2824%29.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54yt9L9jx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54yt9L9jx4

solid
23rd April 2012, 09:09 AM
Night time erections? Isn't it normally mornings?

I would say yes. Morning erections are a good indication of healthy testosterone levels in men. In the morning, t levels are the highest, which is why a lot of bodybuilders lift weights first thing in the morning.

Santa
23rd April 2012, 09:30 AM
I would say yes. Morning erections are a good indication of healthy testosterone levels in men. In the morning, t levels are the highest, which is why a lot of bodybuilders lift weights first thing in the morning.

Do bodybuilders use tiny barbells for morning erections?

ximmy
23rd April 2012, 03:07 PM
Barnhardt agrees!

Got it? Music is POWERFUL in a way that people today simply do not comprehend. Music is like sex. Music has the power to lift our hearts to heaven where we can literally join with the angels in their hymns of praise. Conversely, just as with sex, music can plunge us into hell itself. And finally, like sex, specifically masturbation, music can turn us into empty, hollow shells, ever more numb, ever more turned in upon ourselves, ever more dead to the world around us. {0} Examples:

EVIL MUSIC. The so-called hip-hop culture has got to go. It is pure evil. MASSIVE, EXTREME LANGUAGE AND CONTENT WARNING. This sewage is pornography. Don't hit "play" on this unless you are sure that NO CHILDREN can possibly hear this. If you listen to this, understand that this is what most black Americans and many others listen to exclusively today. You wonder why the inner-city culture is the hellish disaster that it is? Wonder no more. These people have been drawn into hell itself through the medium of music. Listen to it. The tones themselves are hellish and evil even irrespective of the lyrics. No culture containing this crap can survive. Oh, and also remember that Barry has stated that he listens to this "Lil Wayne" demon on his iPod.

http://barnhardt.biz/

osoab
23rd April 2012, 03:14 PM
Barnhardt agrees!

Got it? Music is POWERFUL in a way that people today simply do not comprehend. Music is like sex. Music has the power to lift our hearts to heaven where we can literally join with the angels in their hymns of praise. Conversely, just as with sex, music can plunge us into hell itself. And finally, like sex, specifically masturbation, music can turn us into empty, hollow shells, ever more numb, ever more turned in upon ourselves, ever more dead to the world around us. {0} Examples:

EVIL MUSIC. The so-called hip-hop culture has got to go. It is pure evil. MASSIVE, EXTREME LANGUAGE AND CONTENT WARNING. This sewage is pornography. Don't hit "play" on this unless you are sure that NO CHILDREN can possibly hear this. If you listen to this, understand that this is what most black Americans and many others listen to exclusively today. You wonder why the inner-city culture is the hellish disaster that it is? Wonder no more. These people have been drawn into hell itself through the medium of music. Listen to it. The tones themselves are hellish and evil even irrespective of the lyrics. No culture containing this crap can survive. Oh, and also remember that Barry has stated that he listens to this "Lil Wayne" demon on his iPod.

http://barnhardt.biz/


I have come to the conclusion that Anne Barnhardt is bat shit crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLvDVdJXnE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLvDVdJXnE&feature=player_embedded

vacuum
23rd April 2012, 10:27 PM
It makes a big difference whether you jackoff to porn vs. your imagination. This is explained here in relation to the coolidge effect: http://yourbrainonporn.com/doing-what-you-evolved-to-do

Novel (new) porn available in massive quantities (thanks, jews) is extremely unnatural.

Here's an interesting page on that site:


One man's intentional experiment with using porn long after recovery

Submitted by Gary Wilson on Thu, 09/01/2011 - 20:52
http://yourbrainonporn.com/sites/all/modules/print/icons/print_icon.gif (http://yourbrainonporn.com/print/book/export/html/638) http://www.reuniting.info/images/porn-o150.jpg
Here's an account by a man who made an experiment after two and a half years without porn or porn fantasy.
I started porn at 12. I'm 24 now. My brain didn't have the chance to develop normally with regard to sex. My sexuality developed with the help of the porn, not real women.
Recently I realized how big the big picture actually was. Porn twisted my brain in many ways, ways that surpass my boldest imagination. I'm sure it was porn because I made few simple tests that proved it.
Because I stopped watching porn for about 2 and a half years, my brain has now activated most of its normal functions the way nature planned them to work. Before that I didn’t know what normal was, because I had never experienced it. I'm discovering now, what is normal and how my brain is actually supposed to work. The feeling is great.
I'll divide my brain functions in two categories, Porn Reality (PR) - where my brain works the old way, influenced by porn, and Normal Reality (NR) - where my brain works the way it's supposed to work, the way nature made it.
I would also like to add that what I will say is valid for me, but I doubt it will be valid for everybody, since not everybody started porn at 12. My porn network in the brain may be bigger and affecting bigger areas than other's networks.
The Experiment:

Now that I was back in balance, I wanted to observe very, very carefully every single change that occurs in my reality when the PR takes charge. To make the experiment I simply I masturbated using memories of porn. I remembered enough so that it was almost like watching the real thing. (Of course it was less damaging and safer without the real stimuli).
The first thing I noticed is that the simple fact that I was observing sex, instead of doing it, was turning on some other network in my brain from the usual sexual one. The feeling was just different. I'm almost sure that observing sex and reaching orgasm and having sex and reaching orgasm activate very different brain regions. Both actions may use some common brain functions, some basic ones, but they also use some entirely different networks. In each case, you reach orgasm, but you reach this orgasm in a different way, activating the brain differently.
So, if your entire life you only observe and get excited from somebody else having sex, this activity will develop very different networks from having real sex. The orgasms are going to be different and the overall feeling is going to be different. Plus you develop your voyeur instinct to new levels. After all, you become what you do.
Afterward, even when having real sex, you may activate the voyeur network because it got confused with the normal sexual network (where you aren't suppose to observe). The normal sexual network most likely won't work the way it's supposed to work. It will work in a deviated way, and that's bad, because it's not giving you the sensations you are supposed to get by default.
So, in my experiment imagining porn as I climaxed, I got the odd feeling of observing somebody else having sex. It was still exciting, though in a different way. I felt a rush of adrenaline and I became very active and attentive. My brain was recalling its former response. I guess it's like taking a heroin dose after some years of abstinence. I also felt, “I need more of that!“ No matter what, I wanted more. It was very, very odd pleasure—not the pure pleasure and satisfaction I feel from sex. The excitement was rather narcotic, making your anxious if you don't get more.
After I finished, I noticed something else: I didn't receive any real satisfaction. It was odd. It was like a release of energy, something intense. But the way satisfaction works in the brain is, I guess, more complex. There’s more to it than just an intense release of energy. Instead of feeling satisfied, the moment I finished, I needed more. It just wasn't enough. I didn't feel the feeling I get after sex, of calmness and relaxation. I just wanted more and I was very fixated on the idea of observing. I wanted to get aroused from observing other people having sex (or at least to watch/observe a women) without actually interacting. The network that usually makes me want have sex wasn't active. I wanted to watch instead of making love (just as I had for years).
In short, my porn reality (PR) was fully activated. Now, I just wanted to observe carefully to see what the brain had to offer in such a state. All effects of my porn-reality experiment went fully away in a week. During that week, here’s what I noticed was different compared to normal reality.
More Observations

After my experiment, I felt anxiety the entire day. Random porn pictures and scenes just showed up in my mind. I had absolutely no control over that; it was automatic.
My creativity was absolutely gone!! I felt like a robot. Usually when in Normal reality (NR), I sit in front of my piano and start playing. I can improvise nicely. Now, I sat in front of the piano and just stared...an empty stare. I played some tones from memory, but remarkably, I couldn't CREATE anything. The brain functions responsible for creation of new things were just not working!
I also tried to write an essay. It was absolute disaster. My thoughts just wouldn't run smoothly enough, as they do when I’m in NR. It's as if they were blocked. PR also disabled my ability to crack jokes and make other people laugh. Usually I'm very good at that. It happens automatically, but now when I was around people, it was odd. I perceived reality in another way. I didn't sense the subtle things. I couldn't create any humor from situations. I couldn't crack a random joke. Something was missing. My brain wasn't getting enough information from the external environment for me to be funny.
My ability to solve complex mathematical problems was also very impaired. In NR, I don't have any problems with that. Furthermore my ability to read text, comprehend everything, remember it well and recreate it was impaired. I just couldn't do that. I tried, but it was like 50% worse than in NR. My memory was skipping details; my attention was fleeing from the text; and it was all out of my control. Also, the ability to express myself with language was poor. In NR, I'm quite talkative and interested in other people. I initiate conversation; I want to hear about others’ problems. I talk a lot. I understand. I can offer help and feel good about it.
In PR...sheesh, I am as dumb as f**k. All these skills are gone. I just stand there. I hear others talking, but I have no interest. I hear words, but their words don't activate the brain functions they should activate. It's like their words hit a wall. I become very selfish; I don't care about others. I don't want to talk. I don't feel pleasure from communication. I don't smile when I talk. I may reproduce information in order for somebody to understand me, but it's far from normal communication, or feeling good from it.
In PR, women turned into something that could give me pleasure—into talking pieces of meat that could ease my sexual tension. I didn't want to get to know them, didn't even want to talk to them. When I was attracted, I just wanted, immediately, as quickly as possible, to have sex. I just needed her body. I looked at women entirely from the sexual perspective. In PR, I don’t experience normal relationship, not only with girls, but even with my friends...even with my family.
In a nutshell, in PR, I cannot feel real pleasure from anything except porn (where the pleasure is drug-like rather than real). Many functions that usually provide comfort were heavily suppressed or entirely disabled. For example, my abilities to prioritize, focus, organize, plan, understand and sort my emotions, work under stress.
On top of that my reward and motivation system wasn't functioning correctly if it was functioning at all, and that's one of the most basics things we need to succeed in life and feel good about ourselves. I'm sure these changes were due to the porn experiment because, soon afterward, this same reward and motivation system changed back and started working.
During the time spent in PR I felt empty. I felt as if there was a mist in my brain and something was constantly keeping me alert, even when I didn't want it to. It felt like a mechanism in the brain for anticipation. I had received “a dose,” and now my brain was alert and waiting for more. This sense of anticipation held me for 3 days.
On the 5th day after the masturbation to porn memories, the PR began to go away. I said to myself. “O thank you god!” (I'm an atheist.) Finally, my brain relaxed and all functions were coming back to normal. I could take a deep breath and feel some pleasure from doing it. I felt calm. After about 3 days, I regained all of my normal functions 100%.
Some interesting facts about sex in Porn Reality and Normal Reality:

PR SEX - I focus entirely on body parts. Everything is very visual. My main aim is to reach orgasm. The woman is like an object satisfying my needs. The feeling while having sex is odd, not the same one as in NR. It's like a drug feeling. What I feel is only intense energy and need for release. Other sensations are almost blocked. The whole sex act consists mainly of penetration. After sex, I want more. I don't feel satisfied at all, and feel a bit nervous and anxious.
NR SEX - I focus on the person. I focus less on the visual and body parts. I feel the woman differently. I enjoy every single tender touch we exchange. I'm very patient; I enjoy the moment. I feel relaxed, calm every second. My senses are more open to external stimuli. I don't want to reach orgasm, but to enjoy the whole act and the nice feelings. The experience lacks the intense drug-like feeling of sex in PR. The whole sex act consists of many, many details that I'm unable to notice and enjoy in PR. My senses are more open. I don't feel anxious. Afterward, I'm completely satisfied, relaxed and happy.
Final thoughts

From the age of about 14 until I stopped porn, I was in PR. This caused a lot of damage—a lot of damage to my development as a person, and a lot of wrong ideas about how life works, how to handle situations, etc. It was as if I was very handicapped. I suspect this scenario would be valid not only for porn but for whatever addiction.
With suppressed and disabled brain functions, my perception of women, sex, personal relationships, life, actually everything and my productivity as a whole weren’t normal.
The recovery process was hard for me. Before I recovered, I experienced all the possible symptoms of typical porn addicts: anxiety all the time, erectile dysfunction in real sex only, OCD, lack of desire for most things in my life, and creepy porn tastes that have since disappeared. As I recovered, I had to learn everything as if I were a baby exploring the world—a 20-year old baby. That's pain.
I felt immature and stuck at the age when my addiction started. Now, I feel all right and mature. There is no difference between me and other people I consider mature. I needed 3 years to achieve that, however. Stopping porn was just the beginning for me, just one of the many things that helped. I was also put into a working environment where I was with a lot of people. A lot of team work was required and non-stop thinking. That helped a lot, as did constant communication with people. Having a girlfriend has also helped.
If you started porn later in your life, or your brain is not the addictive type of brain and not so sensitive to hardcore stimulation, the effects may be different and less harmful. However, this was my experience.






http://yourbrainonporn.com/one-mans-intentional-experiment-porn-after-recovering

Santa
24th April 2012, 06:44 AM
ACK! Overload overload....

Watching Ann Barnhardt rant and then reading the fantasies of a self conscious compulsive masturbater just short circuited my erectile functionality.

gunDriller
24th April 2012, 07:53 AM
I have come to the conclusion that Anne Barnhardt is bat shit crazy.

on some subjects, she loses the well-spoken Gravitas that she has when she speaks about MFGlobal.

reminds me of Karl Denninger in that respect.


how did 'bat-shit' become an adverb to the word 'crazy' ?

SLV^GLD
24th April 2012, 07:59 AM
I'm thinking maybe shit-house rats and bats in the belfry copulated and bat-shit crazy was the offspring.

osoab
3rd June 2012, 04:54 PM
I have come to the conclusion that Anne Barnhardt is bat shit crazy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLvDVdJXnE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwLvDVdJXnE&feature=player_embedded

http://celticrebel.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/phbwhorexpi.jpg

Horn
3rd June 2012, 05:07 PM
Last I remember Santa had another Fantasy mate in her.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VaazQfxGso

Awoke
4th June 2012, 05:24 AM
Why do you think Jews are behind all of the pornography? Porn pacifies and pussifies men. If they allowed their sexual energy to build up they would start getting pissed off about things like GoD.

It also promotes the destruction of the family unit, instant gratification, and objectification of the human body.