The NSA Is Lying": U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails

[Ares]

The NSA Is Lying": U.S. Government Has Copies of Most of Your Emails Says NSA Whistleblower


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hfS2Op9l3nk

Link to video----> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hfS2Op9l3nk

[gunDriller]

hard drives are cheap.

i just wish the NSA would share their hard drive reliability statistics !

[Gaillo]

hard drives are cheap.

i just wish the NSA would share their hard drive reliability statistics !

For an agency with their budget? I'm betting 100%. Multiple redundant backups are undoubtably the norm... after all, hard drives are cheap! ;)

[SLV^GLD]

You missed the point, Gaillo.

Running outrageous numbers of hard drives with multiple levels of redundancy would generate highly useful cross-sectional data on hard drive reliability.

No amount of money will make 100% of hard drives reliable 100% of the time. It can however provide 100% data retention and uptime, which is what you are referring to.

[Gaillo]

You missed the point, Gaillo.

Running outrageous numbers of hard drives with multiple levels of redundancy would generate highly useful cross-sectional data on hard drive reliability.

No amount of money will make 100% of hard drives reliable 100% of the time. It can however provide 100% data retention and uptime, which is what you are referring to.

Ah... gotcha.

I doubt they keep most of the drives actually running (powered) though... I'm betting they index them then store them "offline" until needed - particularly the backup copies.

[Hatha Sunahara]

The Democracy Now video makes a good argument for all of us to use some kind of encryption in our emails, and to encrypt what's on our storage media.

If it's so easy for them to collect this data on us, then I am sure encryption would force them to consume huge amounts of resources to be able to use what they have.

I was also reminded in the portion of the video where the FBI Lawyer was speaking, how perilous it is for people to trust the FBI. This is the outfit that entraps young stupid muslim males into fake 'terror plots' where the FBI does everything for them but push the detonator, which is connected to a fake bomb provided by the FBI.

King George III of England and his lawyers allowed british troops to write their own warrants to search peoples houses in the American colonies. Such an abuse of the law was the stimulus for the amendment in the bill of rights that limits the power of the government and protects people from illegal search and seizure. The provision that you are not allowed to talk about a National Security Letter (a self issued warrant) shows how our laws have been corrupted by what Palani calls 'necessity'--which is the road to government initiated violence. All this tells us the road our government is traveling down. What's next?


Hatha

[mightymanx]

For the NSA to get past 128 bit encription it takes about 3 mouse clicks.

The NSA are the Gods of Crypto they are the producers of it.

[osoab]

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NSA Whistleblower Speaks Live: "The Government Is Lying To You" (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/nsa-whistleblower-speaks-live-government-lying-you)



Just a month ago we raised more than a proverbial eyebrow (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/%E2%80%9Cwe-are-far-turnkey-totalitarian-state-big-brother-goes-live-september-2013) when we noted the creation of the NSA's Utah Data Center (codename Stellar Wind) and William Binney's formidable statement that "we are this far from a turnkey totalitarian state". Democracy Now (http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/exclusive_national_security_agency_whistleblower_w illiam) has the former National Security Agency technical director whistleblower's first TV interview in which he discusses the NSA's massive power to spy on Americans and why the FBI raided his home. Since retiring from the NSA in 2001, he has warned that the NSA’s data-mining program has become so vast that it could "create an Orwellian state." Today marks the first time Binney has spoken on national TV about NSA surveillance. Starting with his pre-9-11 identification of the world-wide-web as a voluminous problem since the NSA was 'falling behind the rate-of-change', his success in creating a system (codenamed Thin-Thread) for 'grabbing' all the data and the critical 'lawful' anonymization of that data (according to mandate at the time) which as soon as 9-11 occurred went out of the window as all domestic and foreign communications was now stored (starting with AT&T's forking over their data). This direct violation of the constitutional rights of everybody in the country was why Binney decided he could not stay (leaving one month after 9-11) along with the violation of almost every privacy and intelligence act as near-bottomless databases store all forms of communication collected by the agency, including private emails, cell phone calls, Google searches and other personal data.
There was a time when Americans still cared about matters such as personal privacy. Luckily, they now have iGadgets to keep them distracted as they hand over their last pieces of individuality to the Tzar of conformity as simply put "The NSA Is Lying - The government has copies of most of your emails".


Listen to the 3rd video where the guy working with TOR talks about getting harrased by ICE after a return flight. He states that he can't talk why his cell phones were seized. When asked why he couldn't, he responds "Because we are not in a free country".

I am trying to figure out why after 11-12 years that some of this is getting a fresh light. We know Democracy Now is co, so what's the angle?
Does it really matter what they have done in the past because what they are doing now is so much worse? Is the whole apparatus in place now for the control grid, and the tptb no longer care?

[gunDriller]

You missed the point, Gaillo.

Running outrageous numbers of hard drives with multiple levels of redundancy would generate highly useful cross-sectional data on hard drive reliability.

No amount of money will make 100% of hard drives reliable 100% of the time. It can however provide 100% data retention and uptime, which is what you are referring to.

i just want to know - which is most reliable in their facility - Seagate, WestDig, Samsung.

[gunDriller]

worth a bump - there was a real good & relevant article on Zero Hedge -

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-16-22/flashback-1975-%E2%80%9C-nsas-capability-could-enable-it-impose-total-tyranny-and-the


Flashback from 1975: “The NSA's Capability ... Could Enable It To Impose Total Tyranny, And There Would Be No Way To Fight Back


Senator Church’s Prophetic Warning

Senator Frank Church – who chaired the famous “Church Committee” into the unlawful FBI Cointel program, and who chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee – said in 1975:

“Th[e National Security Agency's] capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything: telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn’t matter. There would be no place to hide. [If a dictator ever took over, the N.S.A.] could enable it to impose total tyranny, and there would be no way to fight back.“

Now, the NSA is building a $2 billion dollar facility in Utah which will use the world’s most powerful supercomputer to monitor virtually all phone calls, emails, internet usage, purchases and rentals, break all encryption, and then store everyone’s data permanently.

The former head of the program for the NSA recently held his thumb and forefinger close together, and said:

We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state

So Senator Church’s warning was prophetic.


Spying Began Before 9/11

While you might assume that the NSA’s spying on Americans is a response to 9/11, the government’s illegal spying on Americans actually began before 9/11.

Bloomberg reported in 2006:

The U.S. National Security Agency asked AT&T Inc. to help it set up a domestic call monitoring site seven months before the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, lawyers claimed June 23 in court papers filed in New York federal court.

“The Bush Administration asserted this became necessary after 9/11,” plaintiff’s lawyer Carl Mayer said in a telephone interview. “This undermines that assertion.”

“The U.S. Department of Justice has stated that AT&T may neither confirm nor deny AT&T’s participation in the alleged NSA program because doing so would cause `exceptionally grave harm to national security’ and would violate both civil and criminal statutes,” AT&T spokesman Dave Pacholczyk said in an e-mail.

U.S. Department of Justice spokesman Charles Miller and NSA spokesman Don Weber declined to comment.

And see this and this.

In other words, the NSA’s trashing of the constitutional rights of American citizens had nothing to do with 9/11.
NSA Heard the 9/11 Hijackers’ Plans from Their Own Mouths … But Didn’t Stop Them

Indeed, the NSA was listening in on the 9/11 hijackers’ phone calls before 9/11, but didn’t do a whole lot to stop them:

The National Security Agency and the FBI were each independently listening in on the phone calls between the supposed mastermind of the attacks and the lead hijacker. Indeed, the FBI built its own antenna in Madagascar specifically to listen in on the mastermind’s phone calls

According to various sources, on the day before 9/11, the mastermind told the lead hijacker “tomorrow is zero hour” and gave final approval for the attacks. The NSA intercepted the message that day and the FBI was likely also monitoring the mastermind’s phone calls

Shortly before 9/11, the NSA also intercepted multiple phone calls to the United States from Bin Laden’s chief of operations

According to the Sunday Herald, two days before 9/11, Bin Laden called his stepmother and told her “In two days, you’re going to hear big news and you’re not going to hear from me for a while.” U.S. officials later told CNN that “in recent years they’ve been able to monitor some of Bin Laden’s telephone communications with his [step]mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded.” Indeed, before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother.

And according to CBS News, at 9:53 a.m on 9/11, just 15 minutes after the hijacked plane had hit the Pentagon, “the National Security Agency, which monitors communications worldwide, intercepted a phone call from one of Osama bin Laden’s operatives in Afghanistan to a phone number in the former
Soviet Republic of Georgia”, and secretary of Defense Rumsfeld learned about the intercepted phone call in real-time (if the NSA monitored and transcribed phone calls in real-time on 9/11, that implies that it probably did so in the months leading up to 9/11 as well)

As we reported in 2008, the NSA even monitored the hijackers within the United States:

We’ve previously pointed out that the U.S. government heard the 9/11 plans from the hijackers’ own mouth. Most of what we wrote about involved the NSA and other intelligence services tapping top Al Qaeda operatives’ phone calls outside the U.S.

However, as leading NSA expert James Bamford - the Washington Investigative Producer for ABC’s World News Tonight with Peter Jennings for almost a decade, winner of a number of journalism awards for coverage national security issues, whose articles have appeared in dozens of publications, including cover stories for the New York Times Magazine, Washington Post Magazine, and the Los Angeles Times Magazine, and the only author to write any books (he wrote 3) on the NSA – reports, the NSA was also tapping the hijackers’ phone calls inside the U.S.

Specifically, hijackers Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi lived in San Diego, California, for 2 years before 9/11. Numerous phone calls between al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi in San Diego and a high-level Al Qaeda operations base in Yemen were made in those 2 years.

The NSA had been tapping and eavesdropping on all calls made from that Yemen phone for years. So NSA recorded all of these phone calls.

Indeed, the CIA knew as far back as 1999 that al-Mihdhar was coming to the U.S. Specifically, in 1999, CIA operatives tailing al-Mihdha in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, obtained a copy of his passport. It contained visas for both Malaysia and the U.S., so they knew it was likely he would go from Kuala Lumpur to America.

ABC News reported in 2002:

Shortly before Sept. 11, NSA intercepts detected multiple phone calls from Abu Zubaida, bin Laden’s chief of operations, to the United States. The intercepts were never passed on.

And Raw Story wrote in 2008:

Author James Bamford looked into the performance of the NSA … and found that it had been closely monitoring the 9/11 hijackers as they moved freely around the United States and communicated with Osama bin Laden’s operations center in Yemen. The NSA had even tapped bin Laden’s satellite phone, starting in 1996.

“The NSA never alerted any other agency that the terrorists were in the United States and moving across the country towards Washington,” Bamford told PBS.

PBS also found that “the 9/11 Commission never looked closely into NSA’s role in the broad intelligence breakdown behind the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. If they had, they would have understood the full extent to which the agency had major pieces of the puzzle but never put them together or disclosed their entire body of knowledge to the CIA and the FBI.”

In a review of Bamford’s book, former senator and 9/11 Commission member Bob Kerrey wrote, “As the 9/11 Commission later established, U.S. intelligence officials knew that al-Qaeda had held a planning meeting in Malaysia, found out the names of two recruits who had been present — Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi — and suspected that one and maybe both of them had flown to Los Angeles. Bamford reveals that the NSA had been eavesdropping for months on their calls to Yemen, yet the agency ‘never made the effort’ to trace where the calls originated. ‘At any time, had the FBI been notified, they could have found Hazmi in a matter of seconds.’”

Former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer told PBS, “None of this information that we’re speaking about this evening’s in the 9/11 Commission report. They simply ignored all of it.”

Spying Unrelated to Keeping Us Safe

As we’ve previously documented, the spying isn’t being done to keep us safe … but to crush dissent …"


about the spying before 9-11 - no doubt.

i had a job interview at Pac Bell in 1994. it started on the 3rd floor of the headquarters building. i got a detailed tour of their network. the guy i interviewed with (for computer graphics work) worked for the CIA - and he was a crack network engineer.

he gestured towards this older skinny guy that looked like he smoked a lot, standing between the 19" telecom racks, and said, "he works for the NSA".

AT&T whistle-blower Mark Klein shined (shone ?) more light on NSA & CIA activities in San Francisco in his post-9-11 whistle-blower lawsuit. his insight was into one of the AT&T equipment closets on Howard Street - in the SOMA area, within a mile of Pac Bell Corp. HQ., which was on Montgomery at the time.

in 1994, i remember there was an article about the FBI spying on US citizens. i mentioned it to the guy i interviewed with. his response was basically, "yeah. so what ?"

it would have been an interesting job but i never followed up.


in any case, the most shallow digging will reveal that the US had foreknowledge of 9-11 being a bad week to fly. of course, just a little more digging will reveal that the US gov. involvement went WAAAAY beyond foreknowledge. they did the False Flag Dance with Israel, setting up the Judeo-Fascist Surveillance State.

& laying the groundwork in the early-mid-90's. if not earlier.

[mick silver]

dam my cave looking better every day now

[mightymanx]

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[Golden]

NSA's Jewish Spy Masters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsAIG9W3iE4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsAIG9W3iE4
Published on Apr 22, 2012 by zionget
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[FreeEnergy]

This began way, way before 9/11.

How about UKUSA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UKUSA_Agreement) aka Echelon?
US and UK "exchanged" spying over each country's citizens for half a century.