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keehah
25th April 2012, 10:01 PM
Not copied here is the side by side comparision.


Contemporary » Vedic and Abrahamic Thoughts
http://veda.wikidot.com/vedic-and-abrahamic-thought

There are two world traditions which have formed the cultural and ethical basis of the world as we know it. Both have an unbroken history going back thousands of years. Judaism with a 5000 year old tradition is the mother of the western civilization through its offshoot Christianity. Hinduism is the older of the two with a literature going back to the beginning of recorded history.

Hindu civilization originated in the Gangetic and Indus valleys and from there spread out over the entire region of southeast Asia. Its offshoot — Buddhism, shaped and molded the civilizations of Japan, China, Tibet and the rest of Asia. The Ancient pre-biblical kingdom of the Mittani in Asia minor was ruled by Hindu Kings with Sanskrit names! The Sumerians and the Hittites were both Indo-European people said to have originating in the Gangetic Basin. Hindu philosophy / theology influenced the ancient Greeks since the time Alexander the Great conquered parts of north India. A remarkable similarity has also been demonstrated between the religion and mythology of the ancient Scandinavian people and that of the people of India. The ancient civilizations such as the Roman, the Greek, the Egyptian, the Sumerian, and the Babylonian have all passed away. Even the Jewish culture has undergone many radical changes since its inception 5000 years ago — yet the Hindu civilization continues as a vibrant and living vector, and has remained virtually unchanged for over 6000 years. Today, Hindu communities are to be found in almost every country on earth.

These two streams of tradition have shaped two different thought systems that can be broadly classified as Vedic (or also known as Indic) and Abrahamic (or also known as Semitic). Believe it or not, any one person, consciously or unconsciously, must either belong or been influenced by one of the two thought systems. Vedic is a stream of thought belongs to the Hindu or Indian schools of thought. Whereas, Abrahamic thought was grown from the Middle East and later widely practiced in the West. Therefore, the main differences between Vedic and Abrahamic are typical of the differences between Eastern and Western religions in general in contemporary terms.

Overview

The Vedic tradition or also termed Dharmic tradition are a family of religions that have originated from the Indian subcontinent. They encompass Hinduism and three other religions that have spawned from it—namely Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism. The category of Abrahamic religions or the Judeo-Christian religions consists of the three major religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, which claim Abraham (Hebrew Avraham; Arabic Ibrahim) as a part of their sacred history. These two streams represent two very different world views (spiritual, religious or philosophical). Their respective thought systems are fundamentally different at almost every point.

In general, the concepts espoused by a religion cannot be judged by merely observing the practice of its followers as it is quite common for the followers of many religions to be ignorant of the concepts of the philosophy or teachings in their scriptures. At the same time the behavior and practices of a person could also been shaped by the very concept and doctrine of the respective faith.

Vedic and Abrahamic Views

We can see immediately that there is a vast difference between Vedic and Abrahamic religions, with the Vedic goals being unitive and introspective and the Abrahamic goals being dualistic and extroverted. The Vedic mind tends to see God everywhere, in all things, and to see everything as sacred. The Abrahamic mind considers it heresy to believe that God pervades all things, and makes a strong difference between what is sacred and what is profane. In general we notice the Vedic holding to karma, samsara (reincarnation), atman (the Self) and moksha (liberation), the Abrahamic postulating a single life for the soul, followed by reward or punishment.

Keep in mind that this is not a comprehensive comparison, as it does not take into account the East Asia religions — Taoism, Confucianism and Shinto. Naturally there are important exceptions to the views expressed (for example, Buddhism does not believe in a Personal God). Nevertheless these broad generalities are useful, as they give a scholarly window into the East and the West.

Discover Your Own Thought Patterns

Most sources of confusion and complexities arise due to the failure to comprehend these two main streams of thought that had shaped ones world view. Even in instances where people who proclaim to be a free thinkers, open minded, secular or an atheist, may find it hard to accept that, their thoughts and observations are indeed not independent or free as they are in one or more ways shaped by these two streams of thoughts. For example, an atheist in the West may claim to be a non-believer in Christianity, yet their world view or thought patterns are most likely been shaped by the Abrahamic or Judeo-Christian thoughts. All roots of expressions, views, analysis, and perspectives are derived within the framework of Abrahamic concepts, categories and terms. Difficulty also arises if one tends to mix or try to interpret a perspective from the viewpoint of another.

The reason why this is so important is because it influences the way in which a person views the world and lives his life. For example, if we get the wrong impression about a person when we first meet him or her, it will affect the way we relate to him later on. Similarly, if we get the wrong view about the world from the outset, we can hardly get anything else right in life. This is why there is so much confusion in the world today, in particular when it comes to religious and secular matters...

Book
25th April 2012, 10:40 PM
All roots of expressions, views, analysis, and perspectives are derived within the framework of Abrahamic concepts, categories and terms.



http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/161431_100001398411744_3612875_n.jpg

(Except our real expressions, views, analysis, and perspectives are derived from our secret Talmud)

::)

keehah
25th April 2012, 10:46 PM
Please get your ugly cartoon out of this thread Book.


Difficulty also arises if one tends to mix or try to interpret a perspective from the viewpoint of another.

singular_me
23rd June 2012, 09:27 PM
nice attempt Keehah... I too do deplore seeing this cartoon when an article such as this one is so well put and balanced. Intellectual discrimination and xenophobia are the best weapons to deter people from thinking for themselves and to morph them into herds... the problem is that those engaging in such tactics dont even realize that they too belong to an herd themselves....all good for the NWO - very sad - Best

D sciple
23rd June 2012, 10:54 PM
I love that cartoon. Jesus was not a hook nosed brown guy. "Jews" are imposters! (Rev 2:9). Well...real Jews should be thought of as Irish and Scottish.

If you guys and girls can understand reincarnation, why can't you understand that God could very well place souls into bodies according to merit?

Didn't Buddha eventually discover the "middle way". Could this (the way) realization have been a realization of God's laws (in addition)? I mean...he didn't leave any books behind. All we have is the story of brown people saying what he was like, and he was likely a freak amongst brown peoples.

Rev 14:3, 15:3, 5:9 say that the only people making it out of this prison are the people that learn to sing the song of Moses (law) and the song of the lamb (realization of body and soul, and only doing God's will); the new song.

D sciple
23rd June 2012, 11:08 PM
A couple references to think about:

http://i49.tinypic.com/2552jj5.gif
http://i46.tinypic.com/2qimde1.jpg
and a little spiritual commentary by Paul

Romans 7:16 But if I do the very thing I do not want to do, I agree with the Law, confessing that the Law is good. 17 So now, no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. 18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me, that is, in my flesh; for the willing is present in me, but the doing of the good is not. 19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. 20 But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me.
21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good. 22 For I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man, 23 but I see a different law in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?

singular_me
24th June 2012, 06:29 AM
I love that cartoon. Jesus was not a hook nosed brown guy. "Jews" are imposters! (Rev 2:9). Well...real Jews should be thought of as Irish and Scottish.

Not a hook nosed guy? How do you know? Because you trust paintings and other representations of Him by the Roman church? Blond with blue eyes and smaller nose? Aryan features praised by the nazis... How ridiculous/childlike is this? Didnt Jesus warn against idolatry?



If you guys and girls can understand reincarnation, why can't you understand that God could very well place souls into bodies according to merit?
If what you say above about "nose" defines "merit"... well I guess many on the planet should be defined as "sub races"

now the ironic side of your beliefs is that you give Dan Brown and his Code Da Vinci legs. All good for the masons!

I really dont give a damn of the facial features of Jesus, only the message counts. He was an example of compassion and forgiveness and you (and others) are just the polar opposites. Yet I am being the witch according to some on here.

if my willingness to uncover the similarities in all religions, is something that some fear, maybe are you suffering from psychosis.

D sciple
24th June 2012, 12:05 PM
Not a hook nosed guy? How do you know? Because you trust paintings and other representations of Him by the Roman church? Blond with blue eyes and smaller nose? Aryan features praised by the nazis... How ridiculous/childlike is this? Didnt Jesus warn against idolatry?

Look at the references I posted. Israel is clearly "us".


If what you say above about "nose" defines "merit"... well I guess many on the planet should be defined as "sub races"

now the ironic side of your beliefs is that you give Dan Brown and his Code Da Vinci legs. All good for the masons!

I really dont give a damn of the facial features of Jesus, only the message counts. He was an example of compassion and forgiveness and you (and others) are just the polar opposites. Yet I am being the witch according to some on here.

if my willingness to uncover the similarities in all religions, is something that some fear, maybe are you suffering from psychosis.

Lol Woman. Yea forgiveness to those who want it. "Repent, for the (United) Kingdom is at hand".

I'm trying to show the harmony; that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob has it all. Airhead rantings with no structure or point are incomplete. Likewise, a lack of understanding of spirit and body composition (that makes the package) will fall short of doing the structured thing.

The merit isn't the body, but it's a heads up on what you're dealing with.

singular_me
24th June 2012, 01:28 PM
Originally Posted by D sciple View Post
I love that cartoon. Jesus was not a hook nosed brown guy. "............ The merit isn't the body, but it's a heads up on what you're dealing with.

right :)

Horn
24th June 2012, 02:35 PM
We can see immediately that there is a vast difference between Vedic and Abrahamic religions, with the Vedic goals being unitive and introspective and the Abrahamic goals being dualistic and extroverted. The Vedic mind tends to see God everywhere, in all things, and to see everything as sacred.

and on the face, Christianity being the most "evolved" blend of the two.

But also quite obviously the most compromised by another. (Abrahamic -dualistic)

As a rudimentary expression of masochistic behavior Book's post could have been more "evolved" in its presentation, but still holds validity none the less.

Book
24th June 2012, 02:52 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3304&dateline=1338793346

Horn's avatar.

:)

D sciple
24th June 2012, 02:59 PM
right :)

I think it's important to point out that the Israelites are not these counterfeit brown guys, as the LAW (God's) is important and it's for us. (as the sons of Jacob)

So I think people reject God's laws just because they think it comes from those bastards, and if they had any sense at all they wouldn't want anything to do with them. So kind of understandable.

I mean sure, white people look the best (pink meat curtains are way more appealing than brown, sorry for the crudeness), and having a male body is obviously better than a woman's in terms of fighting. But that's not the end game, merely stages along the way.

Perhaps even a black woman could go all the way in one life time, who knows.

Horn
24th June 2012, 03:17 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3304&dateline=1338793346

Horn's avatar.

:)

Its an offering from Hollywood to the "Angelistas" present.

Can't you recognize Love & support, Book?

Do you need a hand?

http://www.christianmyspace.com/images/backgrounds/previews/hand-of-jesus.jpg


You aren't the fluffy kitten yours alludes to either.

Book
24th June 2012, 03:21 PM
Can't you recognize Love & support, Book?



http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3304&dateline=1338793346

Oh. You are holding love in one hand and support in the other.

:D how Abrahamic of you

Horn
24th June 2012, 03:32 PM
Don't you have an ice cream truck to run somewhere?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZw5qaNre_k

sirgonzo420
25th June 2012, 01:22 PM
http://gold-silver.us/forum/image.php?u=3304&dateline=1338793346

Oh. You are holding love in one hand and support in the other.

:D how Abrahamic of you

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/The_Sacrifice_of_Isaac_by_Caravaggio.jpg/250px-The_Sacrifice_of_Isaac_by_Caravaggio.jpghttp://www.journeywithjesus.net/Essays/AbrahamSacrificesIsaacIcon_sm.jpg

http://www.bibleprophecyupdate.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/sacrificing_isaac.jpg

Horn
25th June 2012, 03:59 PM
I was thinking of creating thread voting for approvals on my next avatar choice

But naaah, I decided to leave it as provoking enough. :)

Skirnir_
25th June 2012, 07:50 PM
I must compliment D sciple for his hilarious posts.