RNC to NV GOP: Don’t let RP delegates take over national convention slots or else

[General of Darkness]

HOLY SHIT THESE FUCKERS ARE SCARED


RNC to NV GOP: Don’t let Ron Paul delegates take over national convention slots or don’t bother coming to Tampa



By Jon Ralston (http://www.lasvegassun.com/users/jonralston/)
Wednesday, May 2, 2012 | 9:18 p.m.
Related files


In a letter delivered Wednesday to GOP Chairman Michael McDonald, the RNC's chief counsel said if Ron Paul delegates are allowed to take too many slots for the national convention, Nevada's entire contingent may not be seated in Tampa.
John R. Phillippe Jr. said that while his letter is not binding, "I believe it is highly likely that any committee with jurisdiction over the matter would find improper any change to the election, selection, allocation, or binding of delegates, thus jeopardizing the seating of Nevada’s entire delegation to the National Convention."


Clearly, the RNC fears that mischief at the Sparks convention this weekend could result in Ron Paul delegates taking Mitt Romney slots and then not abiding by GOP rules to vote for the presumptive nominee on the first ballot in Tampa. So they are trying to force McDonald to ensure that actual Romney delegates fill 20 of the 28 national convention slots, thus removing any mystery of who they will vote for.


This could be even more fun on Saturday because — and I may be wrong — I don't think these Paul folks respect authority too much. And now the new chairman, who is close to some of the Paul folks, has to be the enforcer.


Too delicious.


Here's a link to letter. Fucking unbelievable.


http://media.lasvegassun.com/media/pdfs/blogs/documents/2012/05/02/Letter_to_Nevada_Republican_Party_re_Allocation_of _Delegates.pdf



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Republican
National
Committee
Counsel’s Office
May 2, 2012
Chairman Michael McDonald
Nevada Republican Party
6330 McLeod Drive, Suite 1
Las Vegas, NV 89120
VIA ELECTRONIC MAIL
Dear Chairman McDonald:
On April 30, 2012, I provided you with an opinion letter explaining why any action to “un-bind”
Nevada’s delegates to the 2012 Republican National Convention would be impermissible under the
national party rules (The Rules of the Republican Party). Specifically, I explained that “[a]ny action taken
at the Nevada Republican Convention to alter the method in which delegates are elected, selected,
allocated, or bound for the 2012 Republican National Convention from the method described in the
[Nevada Republican Party] plan that was timely filed with the Republican National Committee prior to
October 1, 2011, in accordance with Rule 15(e)(1), would be in conflict with of The Rules of the
Republican Party.”

I provide this supplemental letter to emphasize that my opinion applies equally to the binding of delegates
and to the allocation of delegates. In its Rule 15(e) submission, the Nevada Republican Party made clear
that “[p]ursuant to § 15(b) of the Rules of the National Republican Committee, in Presidential election
years, National Delegates and Alternates shall be allocated proportionally based on the final results of the
Nevada Presidential Preference Poll . . . .” Nevada Republican Party Delegate Binding Rules for 2012 at
section 1 (emphasis added). That is, each candidate is entitled to have delegates supporting him elected to
the delegate slots that he earned in the Presidential Preference Poll. See id. (“National delegates shall be
chosen at the Nevada Republican Convention by election. Any candidate who receives less than the
percentage required for one Delegate will receive no Delegates.”)

Based on my review of the Nevada Republican Party’s 15(e) filing, in particular Sections 1, 4.2,
4.3., and 4.4 of the Delegate Binding Rules for 2012, it appears the slots should be allocated as follows:

1. The three RNC members, who are automatic delegates, should each be allocated and bound
to their preferred presidential candidate.

2. Congressional district delegates should be elected to fill delegate slots allocated to each
candidate but only to the extent a candidate has slots available. A nomination to fill a
Congressional district delegate slot shall only be in order if the person’s preferred candidate
has available delegate slots to fill. The preferred means to ensure that no presidential
candidate receives more than his allocated slots is to conduct the congressional district
delegate selections sequentially, and if a candidate has reached his allocation, no further
nominations for delegate candidates who support said presidential candidate shall be in order.

3. At-large (statewide) prospective delegates should be elected by determining how many
delegate slots each presidential candidate has available after processes 1 and 2 above have
been completed, and allocating to each available slot the highest vote-receiving prospective
delegate that supports the candidate with an available slot. So, for example, if Ron Paul has 2
slots available after processes 1 and 2 above, the two highest vote-getters that support Ron
Paul should be allocated to him. And if Mitt Romney has 4 slots available after processes 1
and 2 above have been completed, the 4 highest vote-getters that support Mitt Romney should
be allocated to him.

In order to effectuate this process and ensure that a delegate or prospective delegate actually supports the
presidential candidate he professes to support, an authorized representative of the presidential campaign
that the delegate or prospective delegate professes to support should be allowed to confirm whether or not
the delegate is an actual supporter. If a prospective delegate’s name is certified to the RNC but has not
been approved by an authorized representative of the candidate he or she professes to support, grounds for
a contest may exist. In any case, to the extent a prospective delegate is purportedly elected in excess of
the number of slots allocated to his or her preferred candidate, such delegate will be bound to vote at the
national convention for the candidate to whom that delegate was allocated.

As I explained in my last letter, while this opinion is purely advisory and not binding on any committee of
the Republican National Committee or of the Republican National Convention, I believe it is highly likely
that any committee with jurisdiction over the matter would find improper any change to the election,
selection, allocation, or binding of delegates, thus jeopardizing the seating of Nevada’s entire delegation
to the National Convention.

Sincerely,
John R. Phillippe Jr.
Chief Counsel
cc: Governor Bob List, National Committeeman
Ms. Heidi Smith, National Committeewoman
Mr. David Gallagher, Executive Director

[Libertytree]

Ron Paul's Nevada campaign rebuffs Republican National Committee warning



The Nevada chairman of Ron Paul's presidential campaign on Thursday dismissed a Republican National Committee threat not to seat the Silver State's delegation at the national convention if it's packed with too many Paul supporters.

The warning came in a letter sent on Wednesday to the Nevada Republican Party Chairman Michael McDonald, who had asked for a legal opinion about delegate selection ahead of the state GOP convention Saturday.

The RNC lawyer suggested it would be "highly likely" the Nevada delegation's 28 seats at the Tampa convention would be jeopardized if Paul delegates took up spots that should be allocated instead to Mitt Romney, the presumptive GOP nominee who won the Feb. 4 caucuses in Nevada with half the vote.
Carl Bunce, chairman of Paul's campaign, said he won't change his strategy of trying to elect a slate of Paul delegates that could take up to two-thirds of the Nevada delegation to Tampa.

"The 'opinion' of an establishment lawyer that supports Mitt Romney changes nothing," Bunce told the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "In the letter he says to not change the rules then says how we should change the rules to benefit Romney. Classic establishment tactics, change the rules when they are not in their favor."
Bunce said that under Nevada GOP rules created last October and submitted to the RNC, Nevada delegates to the national convention are first elected at the state convention and then allocated to the presidential candidates based on the outcome of the Feb. 4 caucuses.

"He left that part out of his creative writing assignment," Bunce said of the RNC lawyer.

Romney won Nevada's Feb. 4 caucuses with 50 percent of the vote while Paul came in third with 19 percent behind Newt Gingrich and ahead of Rick Santorum. With Gingrich and Santorum out of the presidential race, party officials say Romney should now be awarded 20 of the Nevada delegates and Paul eight.

The Paul campaign, however, is sending hundreds of delegates to the state convention this weekend in Sparks to try and dominate the national delegate election. Only eight national delegates would be allowed to vote for Paul on the first convention ballot in Tampa while the rest would have to join Romney delegates in backing the likely nominee under RNC rules. But Paul backers want to pack the Florida convention in case there's a second ballot when they'd be free to vote for Paul, a highly unlikely development since Paul has yet to win a state.

The May 2 letter from RNC counsel John R. Phillippe Jr. said the delegates elected at the state convention should match up with their preferred candidate to vote for at the national convention.

"An authorized representative of the presidential campaign that the delegate or prospective delegate professes to support should be allowed to confirm whether or not the delegate is an actual supporter," Phillippe wrote. "If a prospective delegate's name is certified to the RNC but has not been approved by an authorized representative of the candidate he or she professes to support, grounds for a contest may exist."

Phillippe added a reminder that the elected Nevada delegates "will be bound to vote at the national convention for the candidate to whom that delegate was allocated."

He noted that his opinion "is purely advisory and not binding on any committee of the Republican National Committee or of the Republican National Convention" but he suggested there could be consequences.

"I believe it is highly likely that any committee with jurisdiction over the matter would find improper any change to the election, selection, allocation, or binding of delegates, thus jeopardizing the seating of Nevada's entire delegation to the National Convention," he added.

Supporters of Paul, a Texas congressman, have been packing delegations from other states as well such as Iowa and Alaska in order to present a strong showing in Tampa this August. It could cause Romney and the GOP problems not only at the convention but in the race against President Barack Obama if Paul backers don't eventually get behind the GOP nominee in November.


http://www.lvrj.com/news/ron-paul-s-nevada-campaign-rebuffs-warning-from-republican-national-committee-150022405.html

[Silver Rocket Bitches!]

Some people only want democracy when they get their way.

[Libertytree]

In an e-mail sent to delegates and alternates in Maine this morning:

To: State Convention Delegates and Alternates

From: Charlie Webster

Several weeks ago I attended a meeting at the Party Headquarters with a representative from the Ron Paul campaign.

At that meeting I was informed that the Ron Paul campaign intends to "take over" the Republican State Convention and Republican State Committee.

It appears that such an effort will be attempted.

It is my opinion that, in my role as Party Chairman, my obligation is to welcome every Republican activist to our Convention, and to guarantee that all voices are heard.

All of us should welcome the supporters of Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Mitt Romney.

These activists are critical to the election of our candidates in the 2012 elections.

As attendees of our convention, I write to inform you of this situation and to remind you of the importance of attending the Convention beginning with the election of the Convention Secretary when we convene at 9 a.m. ( We recommend that you arrive at 8:15, at the latest to collect your Delegate/Alternate credentials )

The very first business on Saturday will be the election of the Convention Secretary and Convention Chairman.

This would be the first opportunity for anyone to "take over" the Convention by electing " their " Convention Chairman.

The County caucuses will be held at 4 o'clock and this matter of business would be another opportunity to "take over" the State Committee.

I regret the necessity of writing this message, but unfortunately there are those among us who would choose to divide us rather than unite us. Individuals who seem to believe that the overall good of the Party may not be as important as their candidate and their own personal political opinions.

Thanks for reading this message, see you at the Convention. 8:15 a.m. on Saturday

Charlie Webster
Chairman, Maine Republican Party

[Libertytree]

Ron Paul Racks Up Delegates, Putting GOP Establishment On Edge

WASHINGTON -- A prominent Iowa Republican, and a major supporter of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, did not hesitate to answer when asked recently how many of the Hawkeye State's 28 delegates he expects Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) to have heading into the national convention in Tampa this August.

"Twenty," he said.

Conversations with numerous Iowa Republicans confirms the same thing: The state party establishment is dreading a Paul rout on June 15 and 16 at the two-day congressional district/state convention in Des Moines.

"Paul is costing the state a lot of credibility," said Bob Haus, a GOP consultant who most recently headed up Texas Gov. Rick Perry's campaign in the state.
Another Republican operative who works for a statewide official sounded an even more despondent note.

"It does not sound encouraging. The Paul people are in a position to control the delegates, and the result would be chaotic for the Republican Party of Iowa and bring it to a screeching halt, rendering it completely irrelevant to our efforts here," the Republican aide told The Huffington Post. "Nobody would rely on [the state party] for anything."

After the fiasco earlier this year involving the caucus results, Iowans are nervous that if Paul gets a majority of the delegates, it will endanger their first-in-the-nation primary status. On Jan. 3, Romney was reported the winner, only to have the state GOP announce two weeks later that the result was inconclusive, then to reverse again and say that former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum was the victor (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/21/rick-santorum-iowa-caucus-results_n_1220446.html). The party chairman, Matt Strawn, resigned as a result (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/31/iowa-g-o-p-chairman-resigns-in-wake-of-caucus-controversy/) of the confusion.

So the prospect of a third candidate winning the state is causing ulcer-level heartburn, especially since Paul came in third in the popular vote. But that isn't stopping Paul's supporters -- known among other things as Paulites, Paulinistas and to their most critical detractors, Paulbots -- from moving forward with their plan to try to win more delegates in Iowa and other states than was reflected in the popular vote.

Paul is estimated to have won only one delegate thus far in Iowa (http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/primaries/delegates) by most estimates (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/republican_delegate_count.html). But the caucus system is essentially a series of rounds of voting, or "delegates electing delegates electing delegates," as a top Paul campaign official put it (click here (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/15/delegates-republican-convention-courted-unbound_n_1349821.html) for a full run down of how the Iowa process works). And Paul supporters are the most engaged with this process.

Jesse Benton, the national chairman for Paul's campaign, told HuffPost that Iowa is not the only place they think they can win a large swath of delegates.
"Iowa is still very much in play, and there is a lot of work to do," Benton said. "However, we are confident of our strength and are working hard. We have similar prospects in seven other states."

Benton told HuffPost last November that the Paul campaign would be competing hard for delegates in Iowa, Minnesota, Maine, Washington and Nevada.
Sure enough, Paul has already won 20 out of the 24 delegates (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/04/23/ron_paul_wins_minnesota_delegates_by_a_landslide.h tml) allocated in Minnesota, by winning a majority of the congressional district contests. There are another 13 at-large delegates up for grabs on May 19 at the state convention (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/MN-R).
In Maine, Paul is expected to be in the running for at least eight of the state's 24 delegates heading into this weekend's district caucuses and state convention (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/ME-R).

In Washington, delegates will be allotted at the state convention (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/WA-R) at the end of May. And in Nevada, Paul supporters say they hope to turn out about 65 percent of the attendees (http://www.rgj.com/article/20120429/NEWS/304290070/Ron-Paul-backers-prepare-takeover-state-GOP-convention-Sparks?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1) to the state convention this Saturday and Sunday, as they compete for 25 of the state's 28 delegates. Like in most states, three delegate slots are automatic and go to Nevada's GOP chairman, their national committee man and their national committee woman.

It's not just Iowa Republicans or other state parties that are starting to worry. The national Republican Party is perking up and starting to take notice. The Republican National Committee's chief counsel, John R. Phillippe Jr., on Wednesday sent a letter (http://media.lasvegassun.com/media/pdfs/blogs/documents/2012/05/02/Letter_to_Nevada_Republican_Party_re_Allocation_of _Delegates.pdf) to the Nevada GOP chairman, Michael McDonald, essentially warning him that the state party should prevent Paul supporters from taking over this weekend's state convention (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/NV-R).

"Each candidate is entitled to have delegates supporting him elected to the delegate slots that he earned in the Presidential Preference Poll," Phillippe wrote, referring to the results of the Feb. 4 caucus, which Romney won with 50 percent of the popular vote (http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results/2012/gop-primary/nv).

Jon Ralston, the chief political writer for the Las Vegas Sun, wrote late Wednesday (http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2012/may/02/rnc-nv-gop-dont-let-ron-paul-delegates-take-over-n/) that the RNC appears to fear Paul supporters "taking Mitt Romney slots and then not abiding by GOP rules to vote for the presumptive nominee on the first ballot in Tampa."

Phillippe's letter threatens that the RNC may not seat the entire Nevada delegation at the convention in Tampa if it has reason to believe that the Paul supporters have captured more delegate slots than the rules allow.

Benton, in an email exchange with HuffPost, wouldn't name the last two states where the campaign has prospects and is competing hard for delegates. But there has been plenty of attention around the success of Paul's supporters in Louisiana and Massachusetts over the past few days. In Louisiana, Paulites "dominated" the congressional district caucuses this past Saturday, according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune (http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/04/ron_paul_supporters_dominate_l.html). Paul's supporters carried four of the state's congressional districts (http://www.bayoubuzz.com/buzz/latest-buzz/496350-ron-paul-s-fantasy-louisiana-caucus-will-have-consequences), and are guaranteed at least 17 of 46 delegates in the Bayou State, with the potential to pick up more (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/1/paul-supporters-create-delegate-mischief/?page=all#pagebreak) at the state convention on June 2 (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/LA-R).

The other state that Benton likely has his eye on is Colorado, where the Denver Post reported in mid-April (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20398638/politics) that Paul supporters and Santorum backers combined forces to win a "stunning upset" at the state convention, guaranteeing that about half of the state's 33 delegates will be for Paul in August.

And there are other states where Paul can pick up delegates, or where he has reportedly already picked off a few (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/ron-pauls-stealth-state-convention-takeover/2012/05/02/gIQAjJVPwT_blog.html): Alaska, Missouri, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island.
Romney's home state of Massachusetts is a special case. Because Romney won the popular vote in the state's March 6 primary, all 38 delegates are bound by party rules to support him on the first ballot at the national convention. But in the congressional district conventions this past weekend, Paul supporters captured 16 delegate spots out of 27 (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/MA-R) that were elected (another 11 at-large delegates are elected at the state committee meeting on June 15).

If the RNC is concerned about Paul supporters from Nevada defying the rules on the first ballot in Tampa, that worry could extend to the Massachusetts delegates.
Despite the drama, it's still not clear what immediate tangible benefit these delegates will yield for Paul and his devoted followers. Romney still appears to be set to reach 1,144 delegates, the number he needs to clinch the nomination.

But at the very least, Paul's delegate total and the willingness of his supporters to vote for him on the floor in Tampa is certain to draw attention to his cause and his message of limited government. It seems somewhat unlikely that Paul would forego the chance to see his supporters give the GOP establishment fits on the convention floor, under a nationally televised microscope, simply to gain a better speaking slot at the four-day event.

So he may be simply building a movement with a view toward giving his son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), a head start for the 2016 race.
And some Republicans said he has already succeeded in pushing the Republican Party so far to the right on fiscal and budgetary matters that it has paid tangible dividends at the legislative level.

"There are a lot of establishment Republicans who need to thank Ron Paul for injecting a certain amount of courage to do what people always said needed to be done but where they also said, 'How do we do that?'" Iowa state Rep. Erik Helland said.

Helland said that in 2011, the legislature "deappropriated" $500 million over three years from programs such as state-mandated pre-school, government employee benefits and other programs that usually cause an outcry. Helland, who is the majority whip, said that on the Monday after they announced the spending cuts, he got back to Des Moines and "braced" himself for news of outrage from other state representatives who had spent the weekend meeting with constituents.

"They came back and said, 'We talked to our voters, they want to cut more,'" Helland said. "It was paradigm shifting. The voters started actually saying, 'cut.'"
Helland said he gives credit to Paul, who has spent a lot of time in Iowa over the past several years, for changing the political culture.

"Paul staked out such an aggressive dialogue on cutting government that some of the steps we've taken in the legislature and at the federal level are possible because Ron Paul talked about it to the extent that it became politically palatable," Helland said.

"Ron Paul is the most successful presidential candidate in the last couple decades, even though he hasn't won the election," he continued. "He has shaped the dialogue."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/03/ron-paul-delegates_n_1473035.html?ref=elections-2012

[Awoke]

Some people only want democracy when they get their way.

Meaning when it's rigged. Which is always. This Ron Paul fever is an anomaly that TPTB are either not prepared for, or in total control of. Depends how deep the conspiracy goes, and I think it's deeper than the marianas trench.

[madfranks]

This Ron Paul fever is an anomaly that TPTB are either not prepared for, or in total control of

It wouldn't be the first time TPTB were blindsided by something not going according to plan.

[JohnQPublic]

It wouldn't be the first time TPTB were blindsided by something not going according to plan.

Just ask any Roman.

[MAGNES]

At this point they know Ron Paul has the delegates
and is going to the RNC Convention.

How many tricks can they pull off against Ron Paul ?

This is one example and we will see more most likely.

I spoke to this in this thread, what Ron Paul is dealing with.


The RNC has plans for Ron Paul, they bastards,
they won't even do the right thing for their own party and conservatism,
why ?

They got the media in their pocket, actually, hard to separate MSM
from front men NeoCons, no NeoCon Media, no NeoCons.

Sometimes it feels like surreal posting here, this shit
is too real though, these vampires do exist, and they
are Ron Pauls greatest enemies, they have gotten
away with a lot already. They have proven to be capable
of anything, that ain't conspiracy, they were in the news
every day not that long ago with all their AIPAC tied scandals.
Two names, Sibel Edmonds and Fitzgerald, all Bush NeoCon/Scandals.

Ron Paul at this point may have more delegates than Romney.
Doubt it ?
http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60570-Ron-Paul-Projected-400-Delegates-April-20-2012&p=539055&viewfull=1#post539055

The criminals may know this as fact at this point, and
any more blatant acts against Ron Paul will only be confirmation
of this, that Ron Paul is the leader or has a good chance.

When it counts, at key moments, battles, there are people inside
Ron Paul's camp that may deliberately fail, they may be the insurance
policy plants by the NeoCons, Paul Vs Obama, Diebold, key states battled,
the Presidency hinges on one state, one fight, this happened with Bush,
this is not far fetched, they plan ahead and are ready.
Traitors In the Ron Paul Camp ! Sibel Edmonds blows the whistle ! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60765-Traitors-In-the-Ron-Paul-Camp-%21-Sibel-Edmonds-blows-the-whistle-%21)

[chad]

liberty, my mom + step dad live in iowa. they have had their ron paul stolen out of their yard 3 times. they are going after paul hard there.

[Libertytree]

Despite Ron Paul having essentially no shot at winning the GOP presidential nomination, his renegade campaign has embarked on a new tactic that his supporters hope can get the Texas congressmen elected – or at least get him a larger role at the party convention and cause headaches for likely nominee Mitt Romney.


The Paul campaign is attempting to secure convention-bound delegates in district- and state-level contests to vote for their candidate, though Paul has failed to win a single primary or caucus.


Primary math typically adds up to the winner getting the most delegates, which puts Romney far ahead of Paul.


However, Paul campaigners think a strong presence at state-level contests could help them influence and win enough remaining delegates to help their candidate perhaps win a brokered nomination at the national convention, should Romney not get enough votes in the first round. It at least could get Paul more attention for his tiny-government platform.


“Our campaign strategy has always been to amass the maximum amount of delegates possible, and continuing work in state caucus-conventions is part of that,” Paul spokesman Gary Howard said Thursday.


Even so, some Republican strategists say such tactics are hurting the party and its efforts to unify for the general election.


“The bottom line is any attempt to gather more delegates (for Paul) is not likely to yield success,” said Taylor Griffin, a GOP strategist at the Washington, D.C.-based Hamilton Place Strategies. “The only person it’s going to help is Barack Obama.”
This weekend, the Paul campaign appears to be eyeing 25 delegates up for grabs at the GOP convention in Nevada, where Romney won the state caucus with roughly 50 percent of the vote in February.


The notion that the Paul campaign might try to tinker with the Nevada delegate count has prompted the Republican National Committee’s top lawyer to send a letter to the Nevada state party.


Chief counsel John R. Phillippe Jr. told party Chairman Michael McDonald on Wednesday that such maneuvering could result in the entire Nevada delegation not getting seated at the convention.


Phillippe made clear the letter was “purely advisory” but said it was “high likely” that a committee with jurisdiction over these matters might find such changes improper.


In Iowa, Paul could win a chunk of the 28 delegates available next month at the district-state convention, after finishing third and receiving just one delegate in the January caucus.


Last week, Paul dominated the Louisiana state caucus, though he won just 6 percent of the primary vote, and he could do the same at the June 2 state convention.


Paul campaigners also appear to be focusing on at least three other states – including Maine, Massachusetts and Washington – which could give them enough delegates to at least make some noise on the convention floor.



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/03/paul-campaign-has-new-tactic-to-win-delegates-highjack-gop-convention/#ixzz1tr5o91ku

[Horn]

A strategist who can win thru excellent strategy might have a chance at fixing something.

This cannot be allowed.

[monty]

http://runronpaul.com/election/rnc-cheats-ron-paul-and-the-unit-rule-unbinds-all-delegates/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CTlAusSVZiI

My brother and sister-in-law are at the Nevada Republican Convention today. I will get a report from him when he gets home.

[Libertytree]

Nevada has been nothing but a knock down drag out cluster of chaos and they're just now getting started back from lunch break. It's crazy there!

[Libertytree]

Stream to NV convention.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nevadaconvention

[gunDriller]

rarely have i seen grown semi-adults (GOP establishment) so scared of the truth.


you would think they'd be PSYCHED to have a candidate that can kick Obama's ass and leave him as a pile of quivering hamburger in the electoral corner ... metaphorically speaking of course.

[Down1]

RP's people doing it in Maine. Delegate voting right now
GOP has-beens whine and smear.

“What has taken six or seven hours today is normally done in 15 to 20 minutes,” he joked. “I think this is the last stand of the Paul supporters and it’s certainly their right to do it. This is a prime example of why we should go to a primary instead of caucus.”
http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/05/politics/as-predicted-ron-paul-backers-take-over-maine-gop-convention/

[Libertytree]

ME and NV were/are both boilerplates today, the freedom crowd has their shit together!

[Libertytree]

SOB! I can't watch the stream! I am following it though, the RP'ers are kicking ass!

[Cebu_4_2]

their saying that 4 boxes went missing to return later...

[Libertytree]

their saying that 4 boxes went missing to return later...

No dude, it was cool.

[Libertytree]

Ron Paul secures 22 of 24 Maine delegates to national convention. Plus this little write up. Up next, later today Nevada!

Ron Paul wins majority of delegates from Maine GOP

AUGUSTA, Maine — With Ron Paul forces in control, the Maine Republican Convention has elected a majority slate supporting the Texas congressman to the GOP national convention.

The names of 15 at-large delegates from Maine to the Tampa, Fla., convention were posted Sunday morning as the state convention entered its second day. Ron Paul supporters essentially took over the convention Saturday after electing a convention chairman. Maine has a total of 24 delegates.

Paul finished a close second behind Mitt Romney in Maine’s presidential caucuses but those results were nonbinding.

Charles Cragin, a Romney supporter who lost Saturday’s bid to chair the convention, calls the turn of events “bizarre.” He says the Paul-led delegation may not be seated at the national convention because of violations of rules of procedure this weekend in Augusta."

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/0...rces-takeover/ (http://bangordailynews.com/2012/05/06/politics/maine-gop-convention-in-disarray-after-ron-paul-forces-takeover/)

[Cebu_4_2]

They changed the rules in an effort to block RP crowd, they cheat steal and throw away ballots. The RP crowd gets their shit together in an effort to block the chaos but that simply isn't enough they should come together with the Romney folks and support one candidate, which of course should be Romney.

Hail to the chief!

[Awoke]

Haha, Magnes, your signature rules. (Skykike quote)

[MAGNES]

Bump this thread.


Haha, Magnes, your signature rules. (Skykike quote)


It's actually Juristic Person when he was Veritas.

If you do a copy and paste of the link it brings you to the exact
quote and PatColo commenting, he remembers well.

I am just causing a bit of trouble equating that monkey with skyvike.
Maybe JP is his sockpuppet, it would fit well considering that skyvike
has very similar positions, and is employed by the MIC in more ways
than one and he is proud of it, including weather modification/chemtrails.
Outed on here with his business website. Just a few examples.

For full quote, copy and paste the short url.

[Book]

Despite Ron Paul having essentially no shot at winning the GOP presidential nomination...

::) post more futile shit about it daily anyway.

[sirgonzo420]

Bump this thread.




It's actually Juristic Person when he was Veritas.

If you do a copy and paste of the link it brings you to the exact
quote and PatColo commenting, he remembers well.

I am just causing a bit of trouble equating that monkey with skyvike.
Maybe JP is his sockpuppet, it would fit well considering that skyvike
has very similar positions, and is employed by the MIC in more ways
than one and he is proud of it, including weather modification/chemtrails.
Outed on here with his business website. Just a few examples.

For full quote, copy and paste the short url.


Here ya go bro:



Let's play , guess who ? 16 Bush talking points. from 05-27-2007


Carter had extremely low approval ratings when he was President. At the time, Americans were calling Jimmy Carter the worst President in history. Don't forget that.

Bush may not be the best, but he has had so much to deal with during his Presidency.[ONE] It's not his fault that 9/11 happened under his watch.[TWO] I think he has dealt with the freedom-hating Arabs very well.[THREE] We haven't caught Osama bin Laden yet, but that's irrelevant.[FOUR] We caught, tried and executed Saddam Hussein![FIVE] That's one less tyrant in the world now.[SIX]

Under Bush, we are bringing freedom to Iraqi's,[SEVEN] especially women who can now use the TV remote control.[EIGHT] We have rid the world of Saddam Hussein,[NINE] we have not had another terrorist attack on US soil.[TEN] By bringing the war to them,[ELEVEN] they have not been able to successfully attack us.[TWELVE] Under Bush we have also been on the receiving end of much more security and safety,[THIRTEEN] with the creation of the Department of Homeland Security[FOURTEEN] and increased surveillance.[FIFTEEN] Under Bush we have seen breaking records in the stock market,[SIXTEEN] real estate, and employment. The economy has been thriving![SURE IT HAS] We still have our guns and our freedoms.[SURE]

Let's also not forget that it's Bush who also brought Gold and Silver to new recent high's![SURE][TRY THE OPPOSITE]

Carter really has place to talk....his tone is even terroristic (Bush word)[ADL TALKING POINT].

[Libertytree]

::) post more futile shit about it daily anyway.

And you can continue to post your sardonic, pointless little pictures and posts too, you have my permission to be useless. ::)

[Awoke]

For full quote, copy and paste the short url.

Tinyurl is blocked here bro. I will have to check it out another time.

[sirgonzo420]

Tinyurl is blocked here bro. I will have to check it out another time.

I copied and pasted the full quote in post #27 of this thread (two posts above your last one).

[Libertytree]

http://www.policymic.com/articles/8093/romney-wins-popular-vote-in-north-carolina-but-ron-paul-will-win-the-delegates


Romney Wins Popular Vote in North Carolina, But Ron Paul Will Win the Delegates



Instead of using the easily manipulated popular vote to determine the strength of a candidate in North Carolina, the media would offer a better indication of the strength of candidates by downplaying the less relevant popular vote and focusing on the North Carolina Republican convention.


On Tuesday, North Carolina held a Republican Party primary, and media sweetheart Mitt Romney won the popular vote handily with 66% of the vote. This might be significant if either the GOP nomination or the presidency were decided by popular vote totals. They aren't. They are instead decided by delegates and in the case of the GOP nomination especially, delegates are hard to predict. When a brokered convention takes place, as may happen this year, those delegates become even harder to predict.

From June 1-3, North Carolina will have a Republican convention, which, if many other state conventions predict a trend, will be dominated by Ron Paul supporters and anti-Romney factions who threaten to figure out some method for unbinding the popular vote totals, seemingly in contradiction with state law. North Carolina Republicans will meet at that convention to decide who the delegates (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/NC-R#0508)will be.
In the setting of a brokered convention, it's not who the delegates are bound to that matters, it's who or what the delegates have allegiance to that matters.



Repeatedly, Ron Paul delegates have openly refused to play by the honor system of being bound to the dishonorable Romney. In state after state, while the media reports Romney victories in the popular vote, Paul quietly amasses delegates to the RNC, in an event that may be a memorable primetime moment of truth in the nomination process.



Realizing that the media delegate totals are far from accurate, the Romney campaign has been franticly attempting to change its own party rules to limit the influence of Republican voters. When that has failed, the Romney camp settles for manipulation.


In an attempt to protect a fragile Romney from the indomitable Paul supporters, Republican National Convention chief counsel John R. Phillippe, Jr., made the audaciously silly claim that an entire state – Nevada – would not be welcome to the national convention this year if it showed support for Ron Paul. Phillippe's threatening letter was dealt with appropriately by Nevada Republicans – they laughed at it. After all, it was nothing more than an empty threat from a D.C. attorney and Romney supporter in an attempt to save face for Romney's lagging campaign.



Only by ignoring the details of the nomination process could anyone say there is currently a clear front runner. Only by ignoring the meager posturing of Romney's campaign and allies could Romney be construed as that front runner, and only by ignoring North Carolina's electoral procedure could anyone say that today's easy-to-comprehend vote totals are more important than the very complicated and difficult to report North Carolina Republican Convention and the 52 national delegates (http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P12/NC-R#0508) scheduled to be chosen there the weekend of June 1.



Who won North Carolina? Ask me again on Sunday, June 3 and I can give you a more accurate answer. Ask me again on August 30 after the RNC has decided on a Republican nominee and I'll be able to give you a complete answer. Until then, it's all conjecture from pundits and journalists who evidently have some stake in making you believe in a story that doesn't exist.