I Can't Fly

[Buddha]

No article, just me trying to fly to nashville. I'm on the "No Fly List" HAhaahaa.

26 years old wtf am I suppossed to say, "I'm not a terrorist?"

[ximmy]

I'm sorry to hear that. I don't know if I'm on the no fly list or not, I have not traveled by plane since 2007 (was clear then). I am happy I was able to travel some of the world and many states but in these strange days I don't feel that I have to subject myself to TSA goons, scanners or jump through their hoops.

This is the time to homestead, to obtain some land and work it. To aspire to live off the grid. Our freedoms are being slowly taken away & TPTB want you to fret about their power over your increasingly limited freedom. In this instance, respond by not supporting the airlines. Taylor your life accordingly and live free, out of the matrix.
~ximmy

[Twisted Titan]

I just drove over 2300 miles in 3 days cramped in a tiny @$$ hundai with my wife and child for 20+ hours rather then subject them to the claws of the TSA goons.

Im not ready to start making people " famous" just yet.

[collector]

I think this is going to become a much more common issue. Anyone who won't take a chip or conform to what's being set up will find themselves on the that list - that's their plan

[mamboni]

No article, just me trying to fly to nashville. I'm on the "No Fly List" HAhaahaa.

26 years old wtf am I suppossed to say, "I'm not a terrorist?"

Isn't it funny how the government can discriminate against an individual and not even have to provide a justification. Yet if you or I even question anything or anyone from the government we are subject to fines, censor and law suit. All the idiots who support this heavy hand of government fail to understand that unlike a private entity, there is no appeal or countermeasure to the government. You cannot sue the soveriegn for discrimination, bias or violation of one's civil rights.

[Spectrism]

No article, just me trying to fly to nashville. I'm on the "No Fly List" HAhaahaa.

26 years old wtf am I suppossed to say, "I'm not a terrorist?"

Huh? How did they arrive at that?

BTW- I can't fly yet either, without a plane or other artificial device. Soon I will be able to fly.

[palani]

if you or I even question anything or anyone from the government we are subject to fines, censor and law suit.
This more than any other observation should lead you to the conclusion that you are the subject and not the author.

[Book]

http://en.trend.az/article_photo/israel_police_270810.jpg

America is now Gaza and the West Bank.

[iOWNme]

No article, just me trying to fly to nashville. I'm on the "No Fly List" HAhaahaa.

26 years old wtf am I suppossed to say, "I'm not a terrorist?"

A simple FOIA request will show you how and why you are on the 'American Patriots with Common Sense and Liberty in Heart' list. Next, a simple lawsuit against the Feds......Last i heard there were over 10,000 people suing the Feds for being on the list.

[Santa]

Maybe you've been confused with some other Buddha.

[madfranks]

Did they tell you why you were on the no fly list, or was it a simple, "you're on the no fly list, goodbye :)"

[Horn]

I think that means you're exempt from taxation as well...

[sirgonzo420]

Being on the no-fly list is like getting your "patriot wings".

Way to go.


:D

[sirgonzo420]

I think that means you're exempt from taxation as well...

Yeah why would they want a terrorist's $$$ anyway?

[collector]

It means you can't fly commercial. I'd love to see someone start a sort of charter service for all the people on their no fly list. Put in a request destination, flexible travel time and it could be like a taxi service that might have to make touch down stops. It would be a little more expensive but think of the freedom of not having to deal with the TSA and Federal bullshit !

[Hatha Sunahara]

I need to make a reservation on some airline to see if I'm on the no fly list. There are about a million people on that list. I just wonder if there is anyone here at GSUS that is not on that list. The NoFly list is like something directly out of Kafka. We all have an inherent, unalienable right to travel. How can any government deny us access to any mode of conveyance? I just wonder if anyone on that list has sued the government to take them off, or to make the NoFly list itself invalid (because it is unconstitutional).

Actually, after a brief search, there is a case being heard today on this issue by an appeals court right here in my hometown:

http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/aviation/226907-court-to-hear-lawsuit-over-no-fly-list

Somebody put an 18 month old baby on that list.


Hatha

[VX1]

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but fitting here... before I could even begin flight training for my private (to get away from the TSA), I had to be endorsed by the TSA. They are spreading out to general aviation airports, requiring security documents to step out of your plane in some cases, and each airport is separate security badge, separate fees. Of course, we've heard about them at bus stations, train stations, and on the highway. There can be no doubt that they aim to destroy all freedom of travel (unless it's on one of their official Agenda 21 high-speed trains, I suppose).

[collector]

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but fitting here... before I could even begin flight training for my private (to get away from the TSA), I had to be endorsed by the TSA. They are spreading out to general aviation airports, requiring security documents to step out of your plane in some cases, and each airport is separate security badge, separate fees. Of course, we've heard about them at bus stations, train stations, and on the highway. There can be no doubt that they aim to destroy all freedom of travel (unless it's on one of their official Agenda 21 high-speed trains, I suppose).

What about passengers or "guests" on your plane?

[VX1]

What about passengers or "guests" on your plane?
As of today, as long as they're being escorted by someone with a badge, it's OK, but tomorrow... well, we know where it's heading.

[collector]

Just to understand this, when you step off of your plane (that's been tracked by the FAA since takeoff) you have to show documents when you land?? If you were cleared to take off by the TSA, what could have changed in mid-air?
Supposedly this is all about safety in the air (or while in transport/transition), after you have landed, the transportation portion is complete

[Mouse]

You must be traveling in the federal plane. Just counteroffer with a new flight plan above or below their plane.

[gunDriller]

my limit is about 600 miles a day Max. but that's what coffee is for.

[VX1]

Just to understand this, when you step off of your plane (that's been tracked by the FAA since takeoff) you have to show documents when you land?? If you were cleared to take off by the TSA, what could have changed in mid-air?
Supposedly this is all about safety in the air (or while in transport/transition), after you have landed, the transportation portion is complete

The TSA doesn't clear you for takeoff, but I had to be cleared through them, just to get a student license. This is something fairly new they've been into. I suppose this means that the "No-Fly List" means you can't even fly yourself anywhere. The tower clearing you for takeoff doesn't have anything to do with security, they are just there to provide traffic separation.

Of course, flying into the largest airports (say, Tampa Intl, Altlanta, Nashville, etc.), what aviators would call class Bravo, have had some type of security rules for general aviation post-911. My point is that it is now trickling down to smaller and smaller airports, ones that are pretty much exclusively for general aviation, not commercial. So, at more and more small, regional airports, you land, and must be escorted like a child, just to take a piss, if you don't have their special security badge. At least my home airport doesn't have this yet.

[Heimdhal]

I just drove over 2300 miles in 3 days cramped in a tiny @$$ hundai with my wife and child for 20+ hours rather then subject them to the claws of TSA goons.

Im not ready to start making people " famous" just yet.

Hey, if you're in south florida, give me a shout ;)

[Old Herb Lady]

I don't know if I'm on the no fly list but I sure as hell made some kinda list.
About a year ago I went to get my drivers license renewed and you'd have thought I had two heads or somethin.
The lady took my camera card , typed in my info and kept looking at me over top of her eyeglasses, looked at me really, really nervously and went and starting whispering to some other lady in the back. I was so embarrassed, like wtf.
So the other lady comes out and stares me down along with the first one and I'm like " is there a problem ladies ?"
Took em a while but they finally took my pic , got my new drivers license and I got out of there. I mean really, I'm lucky if I weigh a buck ten, buck fifteen , harmless as a fly, but they had sumthin buggin em. NOBODY else in the long line of probably 30 people had any problems.

[palani]

they had sumthin buggin em

Probably didn't understand the significance of wearing parsley in the hair.

[ximmy]

I don't know if I'm on the no fly list but I sure as hell made some kinda list.
About a year ago I went to get my drivers license renewed and you'd have thought I had two heads or somethin.
The lady took my camera card , typed in my info and kept looking at me over top of her eyeglasses, looked at me really, really nervously and went and starting whispering to some other lady in the back. I was so embarrassed, like wtf.
So the other lady comes out and stares me down along with the first one and I'm like " is there a problem ladies ?"
Took em a while but they finally took my pic , got my new drivers license and I got out of there. I mean really, I'm lucky if I weigh a buck ten, buck fifteen , harmless as a fly, but they had sumthin buggin em. NOBODY else in the long line of probably 30 people had any problems.

http://media4.onsugar.com/files/2011/07/27/1/1763/17633492/505c73039dd2d8fd_carmen_miranda_1_.jpg

[Serpo]

Geraldo Rivera: I Was “Raped” By The TSA (http://www.infowars.com/geraldo-rivera-i-was-raped-by-the-tsa/)






Fox News host was put on ‘no fly list’
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Friday, May 11, 2012
Fox News host Geraldo Rivera revealed today how he was “manually raped” by a TSA worker while traveling to Afghanistan, explaining how he had been persecuted by the federal agency for falsely appearing on the infamous ‘no fly list’.

Rivera appeared on Fox and Friends to discuss yesterday’s story (http://www.wpbf.com/news/south-florida/Baby-18-months-old-ordered-off-plane-at-Fort-Lauderdale-airport/-/8788880/13038550/-/item/0/-/nj6oah/-/index.html) about an eighteen-month-old child appearing on the TSA’s no fly list. The parents of the toddler said that after they were “humiliated, embarrassed and picked on” by TSA agents at Ft Lauderdale Airport, they were marched off the plane, and ordered to stand in the terminal for half an hour.

However, Rivera devoted most of the segment to his own TSA nightmare story.

“The last time I flew to Afghanistan I got manually raped by a guy who – the scanner wasn’t working,” said Rivera, before adding that his “junk was junked” by a TSA screener.

“This guy, it seemed to me, was getting off on it…And the more and the tighter I got and the angrier I got,” said Rivera. “You know, he just wanted to be a little more intimate.”

Rivera explained how his trouble with the TSA began when he got put on a ‘no fly list’ and was continually subjected to “enhanced interrogation and search” every time he took a flight.

“And I was so frustrated. I called the TSA, and I called and I called. I went on television. I exposed them, I embarrassed them. I said, ‘can’t ya?’ And they just could not remove my name from the computer that had the no-fly list.”








Rivera’s problems with the TSA may actually have stemmed from the fact that he criticized the agency.

As we previously documented (http://www.prisonplanet.com/cnn-reporter-put-on-watch-list-after-criticizing-tsa.html), allegations that the TSA has created a watch list of individuals who criticize the agency as a form of collective punishment are cognizant with reports of journalists being unnecessarily harassed. CNN journalist Drew Griffin was put on a TSA watch list immediately after he filed reports critical of the organization back in 2008.

In November 2010 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-now-putting-hands-down-fliers-pants.html), we reported the story of how radio host Owen JJ Stone was told by a TSA screener that his pat down would include the screener putting his hands down Stone’s pants. The TSA worker directly patted down his testicles, penis and backside while his hand was inside Stone’s pants. Stone was initially embarrassed to reveal the full scope of the groping but related the details of what amounted to nothing less than outright sexual molestation.
Also in November 2010 (http://www.prisonplanet.com/sexual-assault-tsa-goon-gropes-womans-vagina.html), blogger Erin Chase went public to reveal how she literally had her vagina groped by a TSA screener, who touched both her labia as well as her buttocks and breasts during a pat down.
Former Miss USA Susie Castillo also revealed (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/04/28/beauty-queen-tsa-agent-touched-my-vagina/) how a TSA worker touched her vagina during a pat down at Dallas-Fort Worth airport in April 2011 after she refused to go through a body scanner.

Rivera added that he thought “there is a lot of merit in people who say it should be re-privatized,” referring to a recently passed bill (http://www.prisonplanet.com/senate-passes-bill-allowing-airports-to-evict-tsa-screeners.html) that allows airports to evict TSA screeners and replace them with private security.

Senator Rand Paul, who himself had a tense run-in (http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-detained-by-tsa-over-pat-down-standoff.html) with the loathed federal agency, has also recently launched a campaign (http://www.prisonplanet.com/rand-paul-launches-campaign-to-end-the-tsa.html) to abolish the TSA, backed by a promise to introduce legislation that will “END the TSA and get the government’s hands back to only stealing our wallets instead of groping toddlers and grandmothers.”http://www.infowars.com/geraldo-rivera-i-was-raped-by-the-tsa/

[Serpo]

I don't know if I'm on the no fly list but I sure as hell made some kinda list.
About a year ago I went to get my drivers license renewed and you'd have thought I had two heads or somethin.
The lady took my camera card , typed in my info and kept looking at me over top of her eyeglasses, looked at me really, really nervously and went and starting whispering to some other lady in the back. I was so embarrassed, like wtf.
So the other lady comes out and stares me down along with the first one and I'm like " is there a problem ladies ?"
Took em a while but they finally took my pic , got my new drivers license and I got out of there. I mean really, I'm lucky if I weigh a buck ten, buck fifteen , harmless as a fly, but they had sumthin buggin em. NOBODY else in the long line of probably 30 people had any problems.

They where saying ...................isnt that old herb lady from that notorious GSUS web site.....................{**}

[Old Herb Lady]

They where saying ...................isnt that old herb lady from that notorious GSUS web site.....................{**}

No, more like from the "GIM" website. Cough cough. They were showing each other something on their computer.
I just wanted to jump behind the desk and see their computer soooo bad. They were older ladies and I had never seen them in my life and I had never been to that DMV in that town ever before.

And I do look kinda weird, talk like a hillbilly and all that, had my teeth in,
but didn't have any herbs or fruits in my hair or on the top of my head, they were reading something on the puter.

[Libertytree]

If you're on that list, how many other "lists" are you on? Hmmmm.........

I wasn't told I was on a no fly list but damn I had/have to be on a "fuck with/steal from list", everywhere it was something! It's as though I was being pushed to get a reaction.

[osoab]

At least the ladies of Nashville are safe for one more day. ;D

[osoab]

Don't feel too bad buddha.

This kid never had a chance.

Baby, 18 months old, ordered off plane at Fort Lauderdale airport (http://www.wpbf.com/news/south-florida/Baby-18-months-old-ordered-off-plane-at-Fort-Lauderdale-airport/-/8788880/13038550/-/fhxhp7/-/index.html)

[Sparky]

A friend of mine got put on the No Fly list. Took him years to get off. Each time he got cleared to fly on a flight, his name remained on the list, so he continued to get hassled every single flight. You'd think that once they cleared you to fly that you'd be taken off the list, but that's not how it works. It was as if no one knew how to get his name off the list. For years!

[freespirit]

the answer is simple.

don't fly.

[vacuum]

So how do you leave the country if you are on the no fly list?

[palani]

So how do you leave the country if you are on the no fly list?

Boat. Train. Bicycle. Auto. Foot. These are several ways. But then it actually is a trick question. The only way to leave the country is to obtain the permission of executive, legislative and judicial branches. Otherwise the country goes with you wherever you might wander.

[gunDriller]

So how do you leave the country if you are on the no fly list?

boat to Vancouver Island.

[Buddha]

Yep vacuum, that is the kicker. People in this situation will just have to get creative with their travel. This makes me wan't to leave that much more, I NEVER fly. Like I said in a post in the lounge, http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58858-I-had-lunch-with-Satan-back-from-africa/page8 that Zionist Jew that I worked with years ago, must have been more than just kosher. I'm putting my fucking tin foil body suit on.

[Horn]

This one?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58858-I-had-lunch-with-Satan-back-from-africa&p=517121&viewfull=1#post517121

[Buddha]

This one?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58858-I-had-lunch-with-Satan-back-from-africa&p=517121&viewfull=1#post517121

Yessir

[Horn]

Yessir

Doesn't sound like something that could land you on a no fly list.

Maybe you're a stolen ID case, Does you name start with ja'fal?

[Buddha]

Doesn't sound like something that could land you on a no fly list.

Maybe you're a stolen ID case, Does you name start with ja'fal?

Unfortunately no, my name isn't that cool. Maybe it is a mistake of some sort, I never fly anyway so I'm not too worried about it. I would like the option though, so I guess I'll have to try and clear this up.

[sirgonzo420]

Unfortunately no, my name isn't that cool. Maybe it is a mistake of some sort, I never fly anyway so I'm not too worried about it. I would like the option though, so I guess I'll have to try and clear this up.


Or you can just continue to be a domestic terrorist.

Tommy Jefferson would be proud.

[Horn]

Or you can just continue to be a domestic terrorist.

Tommy Jefferson would be proud.

Do you live in one of those dry counties in Kentucky?