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Libertytree
11th May 2012, 06:40 AM
Folks, it's a whole new ballgame :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anWsU93fFsk&feature=player_embedded

Paraphrased:

Jennifer Sheehan, Legal Counsel for the RNC
plainly stated in a letter to Nancy Lord, Utah National Committeewoman,
several weeks before the convention:

"The RNC does not recognize a state's binding of national delegates, but considers each delegate a free agent who can vote for whoever they choose."

And,

"The national convention allows delegates to vote for the individual of their choice regardless of whether the person's name is officially placed into nomination or not."

Ben Swann:
The delegate process was designed to entrust a group of voters with the power to override the popular vote in each state in order to ensure that the best candidate is chosen. Republican and Democratic parties are not governement agencies. They are private organizations, so voting within a party is not bound by election law.

Sources: http://utahcountygop.com/blog/mr-jenkins-goes-to-st-paul/

http://www.fairvote.org/response-to-a-rogue-convention-how-gop-party-rules-may-surprise-in-201#.T6ywfFLh2Sq

Horn
11th May 2012, 07:56 AM
Then there's the other process where a phone call is made, and the voice on the other end states,

"Just make it close".

Uncle Salty
11th May 2012, 09:05 AM
This is just so a Jeb Bush or some other wild card can get the nomination now that Romney has been outed as a gay basher.

Spectrism
11th May 2012, 09:18 AM
Won't we be surprised when some other POS is offered as the official candidate.... as if the primaries were meaningless.

JohnQPublic
11th May 2012, 09:21 AM
The delegates could get into trouble when they return to their state.

Uncle Salty
11th May 2012, 09:29 AM
The delegates could get into trouble when they return to their state.

What, are they going to get spanked and sent to bed with no dessert?

iOWNme
11th May 2012, 09:46 AM
So in States that have Primaries and not Caucus', these delegates can still vote for whover they want? So what is the point of the 'Primary'?

Mouse
11th May 2012, 10:13 AM
No problemo,

We have an app for that

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JDRock
11th May 2012, 02:49 PM
This is just so a Jeb Bush or some other wild card can get the nomination now that Romney has been outed as a gay basher.
hahaaa...prolly true!

Libertytree
11th May 2012, 06:16 PM
These people are getting beaten at their game with their own rules! Rules I might add that in some cases were put there to screw us and it backfired.

Gaddamnit yaw'll...some of ya live in the states that have caucuses/county/state conventions and ya can't even bother to even try and get involved and understand any of it?

I can look up any of your states particular rules but you won't. I'm in Fl and I happen to be F'd but yaw'll just seem to want to be spoonfed info.

Here's a challenge...if I can get stateship and become eligible for your states caucus/convention status I'll come fight for Ron Paul there, I'll work for anyone that will help me with this endeavor.

JohnQPublic
11th May 2012, 07:02 PM
These people are getting beaten at their game with their own rules! Rules I might add that in some cases were put there to screw us and it backfired.

...

I heard that the rules were changed at the beginning of the election cycle for Romney! Not sure if it is true, but how ironic if so.

Libertytree
11th May 2012, 07:08 PM
I heard that the rules were changed at the beginning of the election cycle for Romney! Not sure if it is true, but how ironic if so.

That's exactly what happened after McCain vs mitty in 08, they wanted to make it easier on mitts and thought he would have the support to pull it off. They too were looking at how Obammy won the D primaries, totally stealth w/ delegates, delegates and at large super delegates.

BabushkaLady
11th May 2012, 07:18 PM
What, are they going to get spanked and sent to bed with no dessert?

And the "no dessert" being the only bad part. >:D ;D

Cebu_4_2
12th May 2012, 06:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4rcEaGpEAw&feature=share