Pusillanimity

[palani]

Why not print this and hand it to any government official who gets into your face? Ask them if they have ever heard the word before.

http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_c.htm


COWARDICE. Pusillanimity; fear.

2. By the act for the better government of the navy of the United States, passed April 21, 1800, 1 Story, L. U. S. 761; it is enacted, art. 5, "every officer or private who shall not properly observe the orders of his commanding officer, or shall not use his utmost exertions to carry them into execution, when ordered to prepare for, join in, or when actually engaged in battle; or shall, at such time, basely desert his duty or station, either then, or while in sight of an enemy, or shall induce others to do so, every person so offending, shall, on conviction thereof by a general court martial, suffer death, or such other punishment as the said court shall adjudge.

3. - Art. 6. "Every officer or private who shall, through cowardice, negligence, or disaffection, in the time of action, withdraw from, or keep out of battle, or shall not do his utmost to take or destroy every vessel which it is his duty to encounter, or shall not do his utmost endeavor to afford relief to ships belonging to the United States, every such offender shall, on conviction thereof by a general court martial, suffer death, or such other punishment as the said court shall adjudge."

4. By the act for establishing rules and articles for the government of the armies of the United States, passed April 10, 1806, it is enacted, art. 52, " any officer or soldier, who shall misbehave himself before the enemy, run away, or shamefully abandon any fort, post, or guard, which he or they may be commanded to defend, or speak, words inducing others to do the like, or shall cast away his arms and ammunition, or who shall quit his post or colors to plunder and pillage, every such offender, being duly convicted thereof, shall suffer death, or such other punishment as shall be ordered by the sentence of a general court martial."

[Hyperion]

Sir, youre a pus... wait, let me rephrase. Youre being a bit pusillanimous at the moment.

[tazed]

[osoab]

[tazed]

Or kicked in the stomach while nine months pregnant.

Cop Kicks Pregnant Woman In Stomach, Dept. Says He Was Within Policy (http://loop21.com/life/cop-kicks-pregnant-woman-stomach)

[Libertytree]

Why not print this and hand it to any government official who gets into your face? Ask them if they have ever heard the word before.

http://www.constitution.org/bouv/bouvier_c.htm

I'm sure you've done it many times and they've thanked you profusely, begging your forgiveness for inconveniencing you. You're so full of shit.

[palani]

I'm sure you've done it many times and they've thanked you profusely, begging your forgiveness for inconveniencing you. You're so full of shit.

So how have you been successful, oh full of shit guru?

[palani]

Sir, youre a pus... wait, let me rephrase. Youre being a bit pusillanimous at the moment.

[tazed]



Or kicked in the stomach while nine months pregnant.

Thank you both for providing examples of pusillanimity.

[Libertytree]

So how have you been successful, oh full of shit guru?

I'm not handing out flyers to the cops, nor would I suggest anyone else follow your advice and try it. Nor have I made any claims about being successful.

[palani]

I'm not handing out flyers to the cops
This would more properly be described as NOTICE although it might also be described as OFFER or (if YOU are the one who have been provided NOTICE) it might be described as COUNTERCLAIM.


nor would I suggest anyone else follow your advice and try it.
Have I advised anything?


Nor have I made any claims about being successful. Nor have I. My only claim is to actions that may be necessary to stay in HONOR. Success might best be gauged at the end of ones life and relates to how one has lived it. My comments never apply to any who are already dead.

[Libertytree]

This would more properly be described as NOTICE although it might also be described as OFFER or (if YOU are the one who have been provided NOTICE) it might be described as COUNTERCLAIM.


Have I advised anything?

Nor have I. My only claim is to actions that may be necessary to stay in HONOR. Success might best be gauged at the end of ones life and relates to how one has lived it. My comments never apply to any who are already dead.

"Why not print this and hand it to any government official who gets into your face? Ask them if they have ever heard the word before."

[Bigjon]

Have I advised anything?

"Why not print this and hand it to any government official who gets into your face? Ask them if they have ever heard the word before."

Nor have I. My only claim is to actions that may be necessary to stay in HONOR. Success might best be gauged at the end of ones life and relates to how one has lived it. My comments never apply to any who are already dead.

Your sense of honor needs an upgrade.

[palani]

"Why not print this and hand it to any government official who gets into your face? Ask them if they have ever heard the word before."

In what world is a QUERY considered advice? And you wonder why your world is messed up.

[palani]

Your sense of honor needs an upgrade.

Omne majus continet in se minus. The greater contains in itself the less.

[Bigjon]

Omne majus continet in se minus. The greater contains in itself the less.

Translation: The more Palani bullshits the less he says.

[palani]

Translation: The more Palani bullshits the less he says.

Translation: If you cannot think of anything intelligent to say then it is better to make snide comments.

Is it because you always thought "pussy" referred to some anatomical feature?

[Hatha Sunahara]

You are offering a cop who pulls you over a 3 part definition of 'fear' in which the first word is Cowardice. I am not a cop and I am missing the implication of this. I would be bewildered as to what you are suggesting by offering such a definition. Are you suggesting that some kind of duress is inherent in the encounter with the minion of the law or other official? Who is fearful in this encounter? You or the cop? And what is the offer? For the cop to be 'civilized'? To not pull his gun out and shoot you?

Or are you suggesting that you understand that the cop is 'just following orders' meaning that if he doesn't meet his quota, he will suffer dire consequences?


Hatha

[palani]

I would be bewildered as to what you are suggesting by offering such a definition.
Hatha

They are on your side or or they are not on your side. Black or white. No shades of gray. Which is it to be?

If they have no oath then they are in your face under color of law (de facto) and are liable personally for their actions.

If they have an oath but are not planning to honor it then congress has prepared these acts specifically for them. Don't you think they should be kept informed in the event they are under some misunderstanding?

Acts of congress do not apply to people not subject to them (non-officers or non-employees of the corporation).

[Hatha Sunahara]

Thank you Palani. I was circling around this answer, but it would have taken me decades to get to it. We seem to have two languages being spoken here. On of them is plain colloquial English which most of us understand. The other is 'legalese' which I am seeing that few if any of us understand. There may be a third language disguised as English called slang, but most of us understand this as well. I think our biggest problem with the law is that none of us (but the lawyers) speak the language (legalese), and all the lawyers work for our adversary.

Hatha

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Once again it comes down to a question of identification. Who is the officer speaking to you? Is he a peace officer of the law? Has he taken an oath to uphold the constitution?

[palani]

Once again it comes down to a question of identification. Who is the officer speaking to you? Is he a peace officer of the law? Has he taken an oath to uphold the constitution?

Those are all good questions. Hiibel vs Nevada establishes that ID must be shown. Again, most people assume court cases like this apply to THEM in the worst possible context. What Hibel establishes is that when you ask them who they are that they must ID themselves.

You need to establish that the coppiceman is in your plane, your time, your place, your space and your lawform.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

"Name and Personnel Number?" is a nice pointed question if you want them to know that this is not your first rodeo. The conversation cannot continue until they answer.

[Hyperion]

Thank you both for providing examples of pusillanimity.

Forgive me, I was only joking. I have no disagreement with what you post. :)

It\'s sad to see good people get so upset over thought-provoking, educational questions. The common argument is that these topics are out of touch with reality. What is reality? Is it not true that a global paradigm shift would render the current reality obsolete?

[Hatha Sunahara]

Those are all good questions. Hiibel vs Nevada establishes that ID must be shown. Again, most people assume court cases like this apply to THEM in the worst possible context. What Hibel establishes is that when you ask them who they are that they must ID themselves.

You need to establish that the coppiceman is in your plane, your time, your place, your space and your lawform.

You must also be acutely aware that the cop has a gun and can invalidate all your rights with a single round of ammunition, and never be held to account for it.

The cops do not protect us. Anyone who believes they do is in for a rude shock. You have to assert your rights or else you don't have them. Even in a state of pusillanimity. These are your common law rights. Cops don't enforce laws. They enforce statutes which are corporate policy.


Hatha

[Glass]

You need to establish that the coppiceman is in your plane, your time, your place, your space and your lawform.

I've noticed you have used this term regularly for a while now. I wonder what the reference is to viticulture? Is it a low hanging fruit analogy?

[palani]

You must also be acutely aware that the cop has a gun and can invalidate all your rights with a single round of ammunition, and never be held to account for it.
You are responsible for your own self-defense and there is no insurance company you can purchase that will handle this for you. Obama outsources his self-defense to the Secret Service but then they are protecting the office rather than the man or woman occupying it.


The cops do not protect us. Anyone who believes they do is in for a rude shock. You have to assert your rights or else you don't have them. Even in a state of pusillanimity. These are your common law rights. Cops don't enforce laws. They enforce statutes which are corporate policy.
They protect corporate property. They will even protect you if you fall in this category.

[palani]

I've noticed you have used this term regularly for a while now. I wonder what the reference is to viticulture? Is it a low hanging fruit analogy?

Reference must be credited to Steven King. This appears after all to be one of his scarier fictions yet.