Received a certified letter today.

[still afloat]

Yep , got a letter today from my kids Dr.
Had to get a school physical for them to do sports at school , no problem .
Well when hit with the oh you need to have your kids vaccines updated and they need a few shots ,I simply replied with I'd like to get more information on the shots you are suggesting first.I got the its parents like you that cause other kids to get sick because your kids don't have their shots , I replied I'm not refusing just postponing till I research them more. 1 shot she "had" to have that day "meningitis" the paper they gave me on it said that if she got the shot now at 15 she would need a booster at 16 but if we waited till 16 to get the shot then no booster would be needed .
Well the letter today said I need to find a new Dr. since our opinions on the vaccines do not agree .
LOL

[freespirit]

you're lucky doctors are plentiful enough where you are for you to be able to jump to another one. in my area, there is about a three year waiting list for a GP.

fwiw, you did the right thing. only a fool would blindly allow someone to inject their kids (or themselves) with anything they weren't knowledgeable about.

i would have added "I didn't come here for your opinion, i came to get a physical for my child. if i want your opinion i will ask you for it." i also think most doctors are pro vaccine. you may be hard pressed to find one that shares your views on the subject.

[Heimdhal]

We stopped our daughters (our first kid) shot sched. at 6 months when she came down with chronic asthma. We were new the the whole "shot" thing so we did unfortunatley get the first couple ones at 3 months. We went back at 9 months and her ped was giving us the whole speech about how we "missed" the 6 month, so there would be some shots she couldnt get, and others she'd have to double and booster this and that, it was a whole thing.


The reason we stopped was because of the asthma, which the doc was quick to give all sorts of steroids for. When she was diagnosed with it, we started researching and it all came back to the vaccines time and again.


Long story short, at 9 month, we refused all shots until the kids asthma cleared up and we'd "re-evaluate and postpone." We were all but thrown out of the office. The doctor gave her rant and literaly, LITERALY, stomped out of the room.

Getting her into school for austim-spectrum disorders was a PITA. They put so many road blocks and hoops to jump through that most parents give up. We didnt. And we havent had an issue since. As long as all the "paper work" is in order, they quickly stop carring and suddenly the life or death situation and all that risk to the other kids dissapears.....

Our new baby hasnt had any so far. This is, as seems to always be the case, a battle we will likley fight throughout their lives.

[EE_]

I got the its parents like you that cause other kids to get sick because your kids don't have their shots

How will the other kids get sick if they all had the shots and are protected?
Wouldn't yours be the only one getting sick not having the vaccine?

[Uncle Salty]

How will the other kids get sick if they all had the shots and are protected?
Wouldn't your's be the only one getting sick not having the vaccine?

There are a small amount of kids that do not or cannot get shots due to allergies or other disorders. So, supposedly, those ones are at risk. But, hell, they are already at risk.

Freedom. WTF?

[Neuro]

There are a small amount of kids that do not or cannot get shots due to allergies or other disorders. So, supposedly, those ones are at risk. But, hell, they are already at risk.

Freedom. WTF?

Then it is the notion of herd immunity. Even the propagandists of vaccination/immunization, agrees that no vaccine is 100% effective, but if the whole herd (of sheep) is immunized, then the spread of the disease will be limited. However having had the actual disease that normally is long term harmless, but short term a pain in the ass would normally give a 100% lifelong immunity against it. Probably due to the childhood vaccinations, we will get epidemics among the geriatrics of childhood diseases in the future... Many will die!

[palani]

Certified letter means doctor is terminating the commercial side of your relationship. That still leaves him with an oath to cure people. Had he wanted to terminate his oath he would have sent you the letter registered. Possibly it would be worth asking him if this is what he had intended.

[Neuro]

Certified letter means doctor is terminating the commercial side of your relationship. That still leaves him with an oath to cure people. Had he wanted to terminate his oath he would have sent you the letter registered. Possibly it would be worth asking him if this is what he had intended.

His oaths means nothing to him. He abandoned his oath of doing no harm, when he started strong-arming people to have their children injected with poison.

[palani]

His oaths means nothing to him. He abandoned his oath of doing no harm, when he started strong-arming people to have their children injected with poison.

Oaths mean a lot to a doctor. Why do you believe they have to insulate themselves with business agents? Neither a doctor nor a lawyer have an action in their fees.

[Neuro]

Oaths mean a lot to a doctor. Why do you believe they have to insulate themselves with business agents? Neither a doctor nor a lawyer have an action in their fees.

I don't understand what you mean with "insulate themselves with business agents" and "action in their fees"...

[gunDriller]

We stopped our daughters (our first kid) shot sched. at 6 months when she came down with chronic asthma.

sorry you had to learn the hard way about the Iatrogenic nature of American medicine.

many of the conditions treated by American doctors are created by American doctors.

most of the conditions treated by American doctors are created by American society.

[palani]

I don't understand what you mean with "insulate themselves with business agents" and "action in their fees"...

"insulate themselves with business agents" .... unless you can manage to accidentally run into one on the street you are going to have provide some proof that their business agents are going to be paid for the doctors services.

"no action in their fees" ... doctors cannot sue you for providing services. Neither can lawyers. Obviously this statement does not include the action of their business agents. They simply have found a way to circumvent the law.

[PlatinumBlonde]

many of the conditions treated by American doctors are created by American doctors.

most of the conditions treated by American doctors are created by American society.

Conditions created by American and International pharmaceutical companies..

[Shami-Amourae]

sorry you had to learn the hard way about the Iatrogenic nature of American medicine.

many of the conditions treated by American doctors are created by American doctors.

most of the conditions treated by American doctors are created by American society.

What she said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvKdYUCUca8

[Neuro]

We stopped our daughters (our first kid) shot sched. at 6 months when she came down with chronic asthma. We were new the the whole "shot" thing so we did unfortunatley get the first couple ones at 3 months. We went back at 9 months and her ped was giving us the whole speech about how we "missed" the 6 month, so there would be some shots she couldnt get, and others she'd have to double and booster this and that, it was a whole thing.

The reason we stopped was because of the asthma, which the doc was quick to give all sorts of steroids for. When she was diagnosed with it, we started researching and it all came back to the vaccines time and again.



Long story short, at 9 month, we refused all shots until the kids asthma cleared up and we'd "re-evaluate and postpone." We were all but thrown out of the office. The doctor gave her rant and literaly, LITERALY, stomped out of the room.

Getting her into school for austim-spectrum disorders was a PITA. They put so many road blocks and hoops to jump through that most parents give up. We didnt. And we havent had an issue since. As long as all the "paper work" is in order, they quickly stop carring and suddenly the life or death situation and all that risk to the other kids dissapears.....

Our new baby hasnt had any so far. This is, as seems to always be the case, a battle we will likley fight throughout their lives.
Asthma was quite a rare condition before the advent of mass vaccinations, less than 1% of the population was affected by it, while about 10-15% of the population has it today. I remember as a kid/young adult growing up in the 70's 80's, how childhood asthma wasn't such a great problem, because they would "grow out of it", I guess the reasoning then was that hardly any adults had asthma while so many children had it. Nowadays you see more and more adults being asthmatic, and also many that develop it in adult age.

I read a research paper about 10 years ago, that compared vaccinated children with unvaccinated children for the prevalence of asthma in some counties in England. It showed that Asthma and eczemas was about 10 times a prevalent among vaccinated children compared to un-vaccinated children. Here is the interesting part though, they found that children who were not vaccinated didn't visit their doctor as much as vaccinated children. So they divided the children into three groups: very few Dr's visits, few Dr's visits, and many Dr visits. There were very few unvaccinated children in the many Dr visit group, so even though these had on average less asthma than the vaccinated group, the correlation failed to show statistical significance, and that was what they printed in the abstract. Not even reading the full paper (which you have to pay for), was this correlation evident, only when analyzing the data sheet supplied did the statistical crookery and truth twisting become evident.

This was an eye-opener to me re the very corrupt nature of medical science...

[iOWNme]

Stand your ground. Know you are on the side of right. ANYONE who would judge you for your personal/spiritual beliefs is an anti-American piece of TRASH! Make sure you (politely) let them know that. Remind them this is still America, NOT NORTH KOREA. Maybe send them a picture of Stalin to hang in their office? (Im not kidding)

Palani - Dr's do not take the hippocratic oath anymore, and havent for over 20 years. Their oath is a COMMERCIAL contract between them and the STATE.

Mamboni?

[palani]

Dr's do not take the hippocratic oath anymore, and havent for over 20 years.

If this is the case then why would you be surprised when their cures turn out poorly?

I find it necessary to define my idea of poorly ... where the patient leaves the doctors office in a condition not as favorable as when he/she entered.

Commercially their cures always are going to work out to their advantage. I once knew an electrician who had headaches so he went in and had a cat scan performed. Classic case of "maybe I am better off being ignorant of my condition".

[Neuro]

Maybe send them a picture of Stalin to hang in their office? (Im not kidding)


Excellent suggestion!

[Neuro]

"insulate themselves with business agents" .... unless you can manage to accidentally run into one on the street you are going to have provide some proof that their business agents are going to be paid for the doctors services.

"no action in their fees" ... doctors cannot sue you for providing services. Neither can lawyers. Obviously this statement does not include the action of their business agents. They simply have found a way to circumvent the law.
I still don't understand...

[palani]

I still don't understand...

Next time they send you a bill return it with a chicken.

[Neuro]

Next time they send you a bill return it with a chicken.

Thanks for your time!

[palani]

Thanks for your time!

You are welcome. Send me an address. I will bill you later.

[Neuro]

You are welcome. Send me an address. I will bill you later.

Here is an address:
C/O Barack Hussein Obama
1600 Pennsylvania ave
Washington
D.C

[palani]

Here is an address:
C/O Barack Hussein Obama
1600 Pennsylvania ave
Washington
D.C

I only deal with principals.

[Hatha Sunahara]

A few years ago I read Eustace Mullins book Murder by Injection. I have a son with autism. I suspect, but cannot prove that it was caused by vaccines when he was an infant.

I avoid the health care establishment like the plague. I will only reluctantly seek any assistance from them if I am unsuccessful in treating what ails me myself.

Hatha

[Neuro]

I only deal with principals.

A school may be a good place then!