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Hatha Sunahara

12th May 2012, 06:11 PM

Roger Hayes talks here about progress in Lawful Rebellion, and he has a very interesting idea called the Lawful Bank. This is a non-debt-based fractional reserve banking system that would enlist the British Pound in helping a new currency replace it. I think a few people here in this forum would appreciate the genius in this. His discussion about the Lawful Bank starts at 22:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=I4ZcTwsubzk#!

Sort of toward the end, you see that Brian Gerrish was at this talk. Anyone interested in the state of freedom in the UK should watch either Hayes or Gerrish.

I noticed that Osoab posted a story about Roger Hayes in this thread:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?44063-I-Roger-Hayes-Am-Not-Liable-For-Council-Tax-AND-NEITHER-ARE-YOU!&highlight=roger+hayes

Hatha

Golden

12th May 2012, 07:38 PM

I can hear HT now....

Glass

14th May 2012, 04:46 PM

That was a good watch. I'll have to follow these guys and see how they get on. Garish was there. Does good work also along with that Irish guy who stares down the Sheriffs.

This is a video from Robert Menard. For those who don't know him, he's pretty much the guy who woke up the Canadians, Aussies and Kiwi's to the whole strawman thing. Not the only one but he'd be top 3. He has many interesting videos explaining the strawman, contractural basis of everything. He also has some interesting videos on solutions.

This one covers the people's bank type solution as well. He has expanded on it a little but it's basically the same concept as Roger is talking about. See the second half

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQSEcdY6Mc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyQSEcdY6Mc

first half is also good, containing new information Robert has unearthed about Accepted for Value, Bills of Exchange and Consumer Bills. How these could be used to pay consumer bills.

Bigjon

15th May 2012, 02:14 AM

http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TZRzHAlH73k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TZRzHAlH73k

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Constitutional Convention - To Reassert Our Constitution (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/article/constitutional-convention-reassert-our-constitution)

Roger Hayes (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/author/roger-hayes)

22nd October 2011 - Kings Hall Stoke On Trent
5th November 2011 - Friends House, London

A constitution is a vital part of any country's system of government. It provides the rules by which the people agree to be governed. It is a contract, the terms and conditions under which those elected must govern, be they a monarch, president or parliament.

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CONSENT - The Most Important Word In The English Language (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/article/constitutional-convention-reassert-our-constitution)

Roger Hayes (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/author/roger-hayes)

- And Possibly The Least Understood

We are all familiar with the concept of being "governed by consent", but how many of us truly know what this means?

The Legal Fiction - How They Control Us (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/article/constitutional-convention-reassert-our-constitution)

Roger Hayes (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/author/roger-hayes)

Throughout the ages mankind’s ingenuity has allowed one group of people to control others. The creation of the ‘legal fiction’ is a superb example – it is the very foundation of how we are controlled today and yet the knowledge of its existence eludes all but a tiny few of us.

[URL="http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/article/living-rule-law"]Living By The 'Rule Of Law' (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/article/constitutional-convention-reassert-our-constitution)

Roger Hayes (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/author/roger-hayes)

Few of us would disagree that the world would be a better place if we all lived by the rule-of-law – but can the same be said about living by the rule of statute? The writer thinks not.

Reclaiming Our Sovereignty (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/content/declaration-british-constitution-group)

We, the British People have a right to govern ourselves. That right has been subjugated as a consequence of acts of treason having been committed by the collective political establishment, aided and abetted by corrupt segments of the judiciary, the police, the Church and the civil service.
Furthermore, Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, whose position has been usurped by a corrupt House of Commons and who has been forced into the destruction of her Kingdom and the breaking of her coronation oath, no longer governs us in accordance with our laws and customs, as was the situation when she was elected by the people as our Sovereign and our Head of State.
Why Her Majesty has failed in her duty is not for us to judge at this point in time - Her Majesty has however been made aware of the situation and is now duty bound to make amends.
A political elite has for some time manipulated the electoral system to deprive the people of true democratic representation by constructing a party political system that has allowed, indeed encouraged, acts of treason to have been committed.
As a direct consequence of the betrayal of the British people by the collective political establishment, and others, the British Constitution Group is calling for Lawful Rebellion, as is our right under article 61 Magna Carta 1215.

Read more ... (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/content/declaration-british-constitution-group)

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John Hurst (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/author/john-hurst)

March 9, 2011 02:00 AM
The Arrest & Rescue Of Judge Peake (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/blog/arrest-rescue-judge-peake)

By now videos of the events in Birkenhead County Court on 7th March 2011 will have been seen around the world. If one looks closely, they were in the good old British tradition of protest. The people there had gone beyond the "muttering amongst themselves in pubs and at bus stops" stage of discontent with the Establishment, through "someone ought to do something about it" to "I will do something".

Read more ... (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/blog/arrest-rescue-judge-peake)

John Hurst (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/author/john-hurst)

July 15, 2010 02:00 AM
Lawful Rebellion - A Reminder Of Its History (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/blog/lawful-rebellion-reminder-its-history)

We are approaching the tenth anniversary of the present Queen and her “evil councilors” being served with a lawful petition raised by a committee of 25 Barons exercising their right under Chapter 61 of Magna Carta to order her not to give Royal Assent to the statute which gave effect to the Nice Treaty in 2001.

Read more ... (http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/blog/lawful-rebellion-reminder-its-history)

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Twisted Titan

15th May 2012, 05:35 AM

Why Her Majesty has failed in her duty is not for us to judge at this point in time - Her Majesty has however been made aware of the situation and is now duty bound to make amends.

Fine then let me judge.

The reason why your (q)ueen has failed in her duties is because that two bit wench has never had to work single day in her life and everthing her family has ever gotten was stolen from honest working innocent people.

She cares as much about you as you care to know about how the bacon you eat is made.

The (q)ueen hails from a bloodline of liars,theives,murders and inbred sociopaths.

Why the hell you want her help is beyond me as she will provide none save to keep you and your heirs bound foot and chain till the day the next of her ilk can take over and continue the bloodsucking process

That pompous b!tch and her whole family can take a knee to better kiss my Royal Silver @$$!

Bigjon

15th May 2012, 05:40 AM

http://vimeo.com/31280465

Roger Hayes - Defining the Problem

http://vimeo.com/31280465

Awoke

15th May 2012, 05:56 AM

mick silver

15th May 2012, 07:29 AM

Bigjon

15th May 2012, 04:50 PM

I can't see the video in the OP, however my first thought is that you can't have a fractional reserve system that is not debt based. How can you do that?

How can any system loan out money they don't have? Fractional reserve = debt based. Or am I missing something?

Fractional reserve means that a portion is held on account, it has nothing to do with whether or not the base money is created via debt or just plain issued.

The system they are proposing will issue debt free money on a 10 to 1 basis. You have to join their system and agree to its terms and deposit x amount of British Pounds (from the current banking system) and they will issue to you 10x new system notes, debt free.

Bigjon

15th May 2012, 05:50 PM

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3rd July 2012, 02:00 PM

Roger Hayes Arrested, Tried In Secret Court, Imprisoned
(http://philosophers-stone.co.uk/wordpress/)
by Steve

Dear All
I’m sure the news has flown round thick and fast about Roger. Now more than ever it is important that we push the Lawfulbank Agenda ,to stop this rot once and for all . I do have something in mind looking forward , but I need to secure some safety first , before I start discussing the way forward with others

In the meantime , paste this notice anywhere you can post it ,tweet it etc ,the more that know the easier for us all to move quickly forward

This news came as a great shock to me as I’m sure it will to you
Lou Collins posted on The Lawful Bank’s Wall
“PLEASE CALL NUMBERS BELOW!

BRITISH CONSTITUTION GROUP CHAIRMAN ROGER HAYES ARRESTED, CHARGED, TRIED IN SECRET BRITISH COURT AND IMPRISONED

Press release by UK Column Monday 2 Jul 2012 Time 21:10 BST – http://www.ukcolumn.org/ – Tel: +44 1752 478050

At 0930 this morning, in scenes reminiscent of Stasi East Germany, 2 police cars and 4 policemen from Merseyside Police arrested British Constitution Group Chairman Roger Hayes at his Wirral home and drove away.

The first his family heard of him was at 18:30 this evening via a telephone call from a Warder in Liverpool prison, to say that Roger had been tried and sentenced to prison.

At no time were the family or any other members of the public informed of his arrest, and it is understood that he was tried in a secret court without a Jury.

Denied the right to argue his case, denied the right to a Jury, denied the right for the public to see justice being done, Roger was imprisoned in the secretive gulag system that Britain has become in 2012.

Roger’s “crime” is that he has been refusing to pay his Council tax, because along with other state taxes, a proportion of the tax revenue gathered is being sent to the European Union, used to fund unlawful wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, and promote terrorism right around the world. To pay tax under these circumstances is, at the very least, unlawful under Section 15(3) of the Terrorism Act 2000.

As such the present government of UK in Westminster is complicit to terrorist action and war crimes and therefore the payment of taxes to an unlawful, criminal regime is itself a criminal act – one in which Roger refused to participate.

In addition to his stance on taxes for unlawful purposes, Roger has also been campaigning for the Lawful Bank – a monetary initiative in which money can be issued to the public as credit, rather than as crippling debt under the existing corrupt and fraudulent International Monetary System.

As Chairman of the British Constitution Group, Roger Hayes has been an outspoken public speaker warning the British public that their rights and freedoms under Common Law and the Constitution are being stripped away and replaced by a dictatorship of secret courts operating under Administrative and Statute Law.

There is no doubt that his success in alerting ever more people to the dangers of the British / EU dictatorship being built by a criminal element now masquerading as British politicians, has caused the State to imprison Roger. His challenge to the fraudulent banking system, as evidenced by the criminal acts of Barclays bank and todays resignation by arch Bilderberger and BBC advisor Marcus Agius, will also have made Roger enemies within Britain’s wide criminal banking cabal.

Roger’s family are shocked both at his arrest, and at the realisation that Britain is now sliding into a police state, where husbands, fathers and other good people can be lifted off the streets and imprisoned. There is now no doubt that Britain is further under the control of domestic terrorists in Westminster.

We ask that all those who value their freedoms and liberty call Meryside Police for further information and an explanation of their actions, and also call Liverpool prison to establish Roger’s physical safety and well-being.

Merseyside Police Tel: 101 local or +44 (0)151 709 6010 in UK.

Liverpool Prison Tel: +44 (0)151 530 4000

Crimestoppers (UK only) Tel: 0800 555 111″

Glass

3rd July 2012, 04:20 PM

well thats not good news, could have been expected though given the way they do things. I wonder what the charges were?

Hatha Sunahara

3rd July 2012, 05:06 PM

Roger Hayes is dangerous. He has a habit of getting people thinking. They can't have someone like him out loose blowing them apart. So they have to put him somewhere where no one will hear him. And if people don't hear him long enough, they will forget about him. He's a political prisoner. Roger de-legitimizes the government. No government can survive that if it is a widely held opinion.

I'm waiting for some demonstrations demanding his freedom. That will be an indication of how many he's reached and convinced.

Hatha

Twisted Titan

3rd July 2012, 11:12 PM

Have your people go to the (q)ueen Roger......have your people go to her (m)ajesty.

She is duty bound to help you!

Bigjon

15th July 2012, 12:23 PM

Update on Roger Hayes Imprisonment
(http://www.thebcgroup.org.uk/blog/update-roger-hayes-imprisonment)blog | July 3, 2012 - 12:58pm

The facts of Roger's committal to prison are slowly emerging. It seems that on Tuesday 26 June 2012 a Committal Hearing took place at which Wirral Council state that Roger failed to appear.

As a result the Judge issued a bench warrant for his arrest, and Roger was arrested yesterday morning. The Council spokesman either did not know or refused to name the Judge.

Following his arrest Roger was brought before a Magistrate and sentenced to 21 days. The Council spokesman either did not know or refused to name the Magistrate, and was unable to say how much, if any, notice of either hearing was given to the General Public.

At this point we would like to make a correction to our initial press release, and that is:

Roger Hayes "WITHELD" his Council Tax rather than "refused to pay" as we reported. This has important implications in his legal case.

The most important fact in Roger's arrest, trial and imprisonment is that nobody knows the detail of what happened to him. What were the names and numbers of the police officers? What was the Court? What was the number of the case? Who was the Magistrate or Judge? Were any public present to see justice being done?

Roger was arrested at home and 9 hours later he was in prison, on the decision of one Magistrate. This must be yet another very dangerous example of the rise of the 'secret' courts and 'secret justice' - Kenneth Clarke MP is still pushing for yet more Courts without Juries.

Calls to the police and Liverpool prison where he is being held, have all been met with a wall of silence under the 'we can't say' and 'data protection'. We can see from this how yet more secrecy is introduced to keep the public interest at bay.

It is understood that the police have received many calls - one member of the public had the phone slammed down on him when he mentioned Roger's name.

Roger's family have also been refused direct information and access to him. They have now started the paperwork trail for formal permission to visit.

A former police officer has kindly made a number of pertinent points which we are happy to publish.

He was informed us that the prison would not confirm that Roger was with them for "security reasons". They referred him to the "Prisoner Location Service" on 0121 626 2773 - they would not accept verbal requests. Merseyside Police switchboard are also referring calls about Roger to the Council. This appears a highly dubious practice at law.

He states - "Because I wanted to make complaints I was put through to the police control room. The drill is for complaints to be recorded and then passed to an Inspector who will contact the complainant within 24 hours. My initial complaints are:

1. Was anyone informed of Rogers arrest? The contingency plan was for him to get a message to me. Note that the prisoner does not get to make a phone call himself. This is a precaution against prisoners passing coded messages to their associates outside.

2. Merseyside police, according to various sources on the Internet, are claiming that "Data Protection" forbids them to confirm Rogers whereabouts. This appears highly dubious practice because a "Regulation" cannot be held to repeal or infringe a Common Law right.

3. Passing complaints about police actions to the Council is a breach of the Police Discipline Regulations and of confidentiality for the individuals who are being complained about. I believe the Police Federation will not like this abuse of process."

The UK Column is delighted to report that the story of Roger Hayes has gone UK and world wide. Many are asking us what can they do? Our first answer is to spread the word, highlighting the the seriousness of the secrecy and lack of transparency in the whole process. As an example another member of the public has asked these excellent questions:

"Was there a signed warrant (wet signature) and who authorised it if so:

- Was there any forced entry to the house and/or damage.

- Did the warrant remain at the house.

- Did they search the house. Did they take anything away, i.e. computer, files, phones, router etc.

- Did they leave an inventory at the house Were there any witnesses to the arrest.

- Was any force used on Roger, or anyone else in the house.

- Was he handcuffed. Was there any explanation to anyone else in the house. Is there any idea of the charge. Were the arresting officers 'sworn police officers,

- PCSO's, from another 'agency' with powers of arrest or privates, or a mixture.

- Did anyone get their names or collar numbers.

- Did anyone get the name of the Prison Officer who called. If anyone could collate that, am sure his lawyers (or others) will want it, plus, it would provide good info for a follow up article"

Please ring the authorities yourself to hear their answers first hand. Every call is a point of support for Roger and shows the authorities the overwhelming public interest in the case. Please also write and ask for information and answers from Wirral Council and other authorities. As always be polite and measured in your calls and requests for information - unfortunately the authorities may not treat you with the same respect. As soon as we have more information we will post it. For those that want to write to Roger we will post his Prison Number as soon as we have it.

Merseyside Police Tel: 101 local or +44 (0)151 709 6010 in UK.

Liverpool Prison Tel: +44 (0)151 530 4000

Crimestoppers (UK only) Tel: 0800 555 111

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If you would like to write to Roger with your support, you can write to him at:

HMP Liverpool, 68 Hornby Road Liverpool L9 3DF

His prisoner number is: A8953CP

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There will be a special UK Column Live broadcast tomorrow, Wednesday, 4th July at 12PM BST:

Audio stream on TNS Radio
Video stream on UK Column

Bigjon

15th July 2012, 12:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10SPjXh-FiU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10SPjXh-FiU

JDRock

15th July 2012, 12:55 PM

the fact that constitution law needs to be reinstated implies that somone/group displaced it with another.......reason leads us to the first task at hand; finding out WHO,and HOW and WHY it was abrogated in the first place, else we are doomed to repeat the cycle.

Mouse

16th July 2012, 12:05 AM

First things first. Criminal investigations and punishment follow.

Hatha Sunahara

23rd September 2012, 10:21 PM

Here's an update on the arrest of Roger Hayes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QqddBnZst3M

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded v=QqddBnZst3M[video]

Roger Hayes was arrested and jailed for 21 days without due process. Apparently, the Brits are doing away with Common Law and replacing it with Statutory Law just like we have done here in the USA.

Hatha