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Book
13th May 2012, 01:44 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html

:o

Shami-Amourae
13th May 2012, 02:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04

Santa
13th May 2012, 03:17 PM
What if it were systematically added to the fluoridated water in minute amounts. how would anyone know?

gunDriller
13th May 2012, 03:24 PM
sounds like something every Israeli Organ Snatcher would want to have in their tool-kit.

Serpo
13th May 2012, 04:45 PM
Plenty of this stuff in Australia,(datura) no one likes it ,people die from it often drown in puddles of water for some reason,never heard of this zombie stuff its meant to be capable of.
Had one growing out by the back window once as it grows wild ,pulled it out as the flowers are toxic if near a bed room the pollen can kill.
There is a guy from my local town who got f#cked up years ago and still is while someone he was with died swimming across a puddle while the others watched.

http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml

woodman
13th May 2012, 04:57 PM
Just look in your backyard. Like Serpo says, the stuff is everywhere and it is nothing new. Datura and hensbane grow all over the place around here. Search Erowid for trip reports. Enlightening. Tropane alkaloids are nothing to play with lightly.

Tumbleweed
13th May 2012, 05:17 PM
In his youtube interviews with Ted Guderson, Chip Tatum said he was flying this shit into the US for the CIA from central america. He vanished shortly after his interviews only to turn up dead ten years later. I suspect the CIA used this drug on him to find the information he had on their criminal activites then killed him. SOB's

Carbon
13th May 2012, 05:57 PM
Plenty of this stuff in Australia,(datura) no one likes it ,people die from it often drown in puddles of water for some reason,never heard of this zombie stuff its meant to be capable of.
Had one growing out by the back window once as it grows wild ,pulled it out as the flowers are toxic if near a bed room the pollen can kill.
There is a guy from my local town who got f#cked up years ago and still is while someone he was with died swimming across a puddle while the others watched.


http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml

It's not Datura... but it looks like it and apparently has a few of the same qualities/symptoms.

Angel's Trumpet (http://daviswiki.org/Angel%27s_Trumpet)

"Angel's Trumpets (Brugmansia sp) are dramatic shrubs bearing large pendulous flowers, typically with a sweet scent. Oftentimes confused with plants of the genus Datura because of their similar trumpet shaped flowers, the two are most immediately differentiated by the shrub or tree form of Brugmansia and its nodding flowers verus the herbaceous, somewhat woody form and typically upward facing flowers of Datura. A member of the nightshade family (Solanaceae), all parts of this narcotic plant are highly toxic and have been used by native cultures in religious ceremonies...
Other names for Brugmansia species include yerba de huaca (Plant of the Tomb), campanilla, maicoa, tonga, toa, buyes, floripondio, chamico, huanco and huacacachu and borrachero. "

Wonder why the Mail is running this story? It's not like it's something new (there are some old vids on YouTube). Slow news?

While it may be a problem in Columbia, it's not a problem anywhere else ... yet. But, if it keeps getting advertised... .

Many links for the plant on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=Brugmansia&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Silver Rocket Bitches!
13th May 2012, 06:54 PM
Nastiest psychedelic on the planet. (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Datura.shtml)


I don't have much memory of waiting for the sun to go down, but I do remember waiting for that to happen. The next clear memory I have is looking out the window and seeing that the sun was down. My state of mind had obviously moved towards a lack of judgment because I decided it was safe to walk home. The time of my departure from my friends was around 9:00pm. I was no longer feeling the body high, either I had become used to it, or it had just gone away. My heart was racing at an ungodly rate, but I didn't notice unless I specificaly checked. When I reached about a quarter of the way home I began to talk to my friend who had been with me earlier in the morning as I walked. We were having an indepth conversation on a topic which I can not remember, when he suddenly veered off and layed down in a patch of grass. This alarmed me because I knew that Datura may have sever adverse effects on the body causing coma and or death. I started walking to over to him so that I might get him up or carry him to the nearest place we could get help when he just disappeared. I must have looked and yelled around for him for about 30 minutes. I finally gave up and decided it was best to head to my house.

It was then that I started to notice flashes of light in the periphrieals of my vision. I looked around to discover the source of the flashes and could not find one, so I continued walking. I saw a large white puffy object that resembled a mushroom of some variety I had never seen. When I approached it, it was very large. The top had a diameter of about 4 inches, and it had a very stubby stock. This, however was not what caused me to walk over. It was the flashes of light inside the cap that interested me. It looked almost like a video of neurons firing in someones brain. It was very real to me, I could touch it. It was not untill much later that I even realized that I had been hallucinating. Everything was real to me. I had no more hallucinations on the way to my house. I did however start to have major motor control problems. My hands were almost twiching out of control, and it felt as though my knees were going to give out at times. I began to worry, and almost panicked at the fact that my knees were coming out from under me. It took all the concentration I had just to keep walking. At this point I felt that if I had fallen I would not have been able to get back up. However I did make it safely back to my house.

Upon arrival at my home I immediatly checked the time, and was flabbergasted to see it was 11:20pm. A walk that usually takes no longer than 20 minutes took me over two hours. I forgot about the time when my stomache rumbled loudly and quickly went to make myself a nice cool bowl of cereal. As I was making my cereal I remember listening to an episode of Drew Carey on the TV. It was the April fools episode with all the pop-ups like from Pop-up video. The show was coming to an end as I walked into the livingroom and sat down to eat. I ate several spoon fulls of cereal and looked up to see what was comming on next. The TV was not even on. It was at this point that I finally made a separation, and realized that I had been hallucinating. I finished eating quickly, took a long cold shower, and went to bed.

Now as for lasting effects, the only one that plauged me was the fact that my pupils remained completely dialated for a week, and I could not read any small print, or street signs from a distance. As for my friend who went to sleep in the grass, I called his house to see if he had made it home, and he answered the phone. The first words out of my mouth were, 'Oh good you made it back, you have no idea how relived I am about that.' His reply stunned me, as it still does every time I think about it.... 'I never left the house last night.' We argued for a long time, because in my mind it really happened. He was there, he layed down. And then I couldn't find him. But It was confirmed by the people who live there, that he never left the house with me that night.

I will never do Datura again. It is definitely not a recreational psychedelic. In fact it is not a psychedelic at all, it causes your body to go into a near death delerium, by raising your body temperature to dangerously high levels, Raising your heartrate to equally high levels, and drying every moisture producing gland in your body. I found it to be dangerous, and very un-spiritual. They are real hallucinations, meaning that you can not tell the difference between a hallucination and whats real. I do not recommend that anyone ever try to use datura for a recreational purpose, or at all for that matter. I feel to this day, that had I not been in as good of shape as I was that it would have killed me.


I was dead. This was hell. There were no demons, no hellfire or brimstone, just a deep, complete feeling of darkness and hopelessness. This was the never-ending void. Not at all how I had imagined it, but worse than I thought that it could have been. I've had feelings of infinite emotion on acid trips and sensations of universal truth in K-holes, but this was the most profound reality I had ever experienced. My whole existence was put into perspective, and I was being punished for wasting the gift of life. I blacked out at some point in the box and woke up in my friend's apartment the next day. He said I was out for about 8 hours. The physical effects wore off about a day later, but the psychological impression has yet to fade.


Time after ingestion: roughly 1 hour

Moe entered the room and asked if it was ok to turn the lights off. I had my fill of the “purple haze”, so I agreed to the black out. I closed my eyes and it was like a laser show. Images of random objects drifted in and out of sight while circular designs danced in the background. From here on, what I remember will be in quotes and what happened that I have no recollection of will be in stars. The following will be in chronological order to the best of my abilities.

*At this point I was drenched in sweat so I was inclined to take off my shirt. I then went to the bathroom to splash water on my face and ended up completely undressing. I have no idea where Moe was, nor what he was doing. I was naked in the bathroom and I started throwing punches. Hard punches. I was boxing anything in the bathroom that wasn’t bolted down. According to Mark, my uncle was awoken by the noise and got up to check.*

“I was all the sudden shirtless in the living room, sitting on the couch, looking up at Mark and my parents. I was disoriented. Not sure of where I was. All I did was what my parents asked me to, which was put on my shoes and shirt and get in the car. I got up to walk out the door.”

*I was driven back to my house in the country. I’m not sure what words were exchanged between me, my mother, and my father, but I doubt there were any.*

“I came to on another couch. Mine. Looking up at my father, who didn’t look particularly disappointed, but more amused at my odd and silly behavior. I kept on having this sudden urge to get up, yet every time I attempted to, my fathers stern voice chimed in saying ‘Stay down, don’t get up’. I kept trying and he started to laugh as every time I got up, I’d sheepishly sit down. I felt like I was 9 years old, doing as I was told or I’d be sent to my room, or worse; the corner. After many attempts, I thought I’d go at it at a different angle. ‘I have to pee’, I said. He looked at me with a warm smile and took my hand and helped me to the bathroom. I felt secure for some reason.'

'I wasn’t able to stand so I sat as my dad snickered in the doorway. I looked up at him again, wondering why I kept feeling younger and more helpless as the time passed. ‘I can’t go. Stop laughing,’ I said. He then helped me up and put me back on the couch. I sat and strained my ears for the conversation that went on between him and my mother in the other room. I kept hearing horrifying words like ‘die’ and ‘hospital’ and ‘overdose’. Its important to note at this point that in the crazy religion my family is apart of, we don’t go to doctors. They believe in healing through prayer. So if there was talk of a hospital visit, something bad was happening. I remember my father coming back in from the kitchen and taking my hand. I blacked out once again”

*I was rushed to the neighboring town’s hospital. Moe’s parents did the same and we arrived around the same time. I was rushed in and had an IV stuck in me. Well, they tried to stick me anyways. After the fifth attempt, the floor was spotted with blood and I had something being pumped through my veins. I was being extremely violent. At one point I punched a doctor in the face and broke his glasses. This is when they decided it would be best for my and other people’s safety if I was restrained. I was tied to a bed and force fed charcoal. It was not an easy task but after about an hour they had it done. I was given a new IV with some other kind of medical bullshit in it to calm me down. With my face, chest and neck covered in black coal residue, I finally found sleep.*

“I came to with people surrounding me. It was a new day and peculiar things were happening. My grandmother, who does NOT smoke, was holding a lit cigarette. I had my sister lean down to ask her if she was smoking. She responded with a simple ‘no jackass, gramma doesn’t smoke’. I looked around the room to see where I was and why I was tied down. A white board on the opposite wall read ‘You’re in the hospital, you’re ok. It is (current date) and no one is going to hurt you’. The nurse apparently did this because during my blackouts, I was violent, quixotic, and angry. I looked around the room for some familiar faces and I found them. My whole family was there. While restrained I was able to look under my blanket. I was naked and there was a tube coming out of my penis. I found this odd, because I’d never been to a hospital and had no idea what a catheter was.'

'I looked up at my IV bag and it was an ear of corn. It started growing features and it soon became an ear of corn with a face. My father then asked what I was looking at and I turned to address him confidently. ‘Cornhead’ I said with a very serious look. I looked around the room at all the odd things happening. A money clip with a ten dollar bill in it was laying next to a small fish on the ceiling. I thought this was amazing so I had to tell the nearest person. My sister again. She looked up like the dumbass she is and said there was nothing there. I asked my mother if the ‘sexy bondage’ was really necessary. She laughed and untied my hands. My feat were still restrained.'

'All of the sudden the room fell away around me and I was back at Mark’s house. I had a ps2 controller in my hand playing socom. 5 minutes of playing had passed and the controller melted into a soft, cotton material and I kept on apologizing to Mark saying I’m so sorry over and over again. I opened my eyes and I was back in the hospital. The controller was now a blanket, which I was clutching very tightly in my hands. I felt scared, vulnerable. I wept.”

*Every one that was close to me came and bid their well wishes, chatted with me (or tried to chat with the nonsense coming out of my mouth), and promptly left.*

“I came to and it was dusk. My sister approached me, gave me a hug, and took my shoes off of me. She had to lift the blanket a bit to get to them and I thought she was going to expose my naked body to the few people still in the hospital room. I said ‘NO! Don’t look under there! They took my clothes and stuffed me in a dark tube!’ She had her laugh, said she had to go, and did just that. It was dark now. I drifted in and out of consciousness for the better part of an hour. My aunt was at my bedside and all of the sudden, large centipedes and bugs started coming out of her ears. I was distraught, so I turned my attention to anything but her. The bugs had filled the room and were crawling all over everything. I screamed for help and my mother came to comfort me. She embraced me and told me to close my eyes. I cried. Hard. Then, I slept.'

sirgonzo420
13th May 2012, 07:48 PM
Yeah jimsonweed isn't something you'd wanna mess with every weekend.

Serpo
13th May 2012, 10:31 PM
quote..
My aunt was at my bedside and all of the sudden, large centipedes and bugs started coming out of her ears. I was distraught, so I turned my attention to anything but her. The bugs had filled the room and were crawling all over everything. I screamed for help and my mother came to comfort me. She embraced me and told me to close my eyes. I cried. Hard. Then, I slept.


always disconcerting.........;D

Awoke
14th May 2012, 05:24 AM
Wonder why the Mail is running this story? It's not like it's something new (there are some old vids on YouTube). Slow news?

Yeah, it's old. We had a thread on this in GIM.

SLV^GLD
14th May 2012, 05:57 AM
It's not Datura... but it looks like it and apparently has a few of the same qualities/symptoms.

That's because it is the same active chemical; scopalamine.

The fear mongering over this substance is akin to ranting that there's cyanide in grape and apricot seeds or that castor beans contain ricin.

It is true and there are people who will extract the substances for nefarious purposes. Whoopty fucking doo, let's call it devil's breath and sensationalize it.

hoarder
14th May 2012, 06:23 AM
That's because it is the same active chemical; scopalamine.WTF? That's what dramamine is. It's to prevent seasickness. I used to take it on long boat rides when I worked offshore.

chad
14th May 2012, 06:26 AM
WTF? That's what dramamine is. It's to prevent seasickness. I used to take it on long boat rides when I worked offshore.

yeah, that's what i thought. i take it every summer when salmon fishing.

sirgonzo420
14th May 2012, 06:29 AM
WTF? That's what dramamine is. It's to prevent seasickness. I used to take it on long boat rides when I worked offshore.

I'm pretty sure that dramamine is now dimenhydrinate, but I think I remember scopalamine being used as an anti-motion sickness aid.

chad
14th May 2012, 06:33 AM
I'm pretty sure that dramamine is now dimenhydrinate, but I think I remember scopalamine being used as an anti-motion sickness aid.

i use a scopalamine patch. you stick it on behind your ear.

sirgonzo420
14th May 2012, 06:36 AM
i use a scopalamine patch. you stick it on behind your ear.

I wonder what happens if you put on more than one....

O.O

Santa
14th May 2012, 06:40 AM
......

Scopolamine, also known as levo-duboisine, and hyoscine, is a tropane alkaloid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropane_alkaloid) drug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medication) with muscarinic antagonist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscarinic_antagonist) effects. It is among the secondary metabolites (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_metabolites) of plants from Solanaceae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solanaceae) (nightshade) family of plants, such as henbane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henbane), jimson weed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimson_weed) and Angel's Trumpets (Datura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura) or Brugmansia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugmansia)), and corkwood (Duboisia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duboisia)).[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine#cite_note-1)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine#cite_note-Chambers-2) Although scopolamine is sometimes portrayed in the media as a dangerous drug, its anticholinergic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anticholinergic) properties give it some legitimate medical applications in very minute doses. An example is the treatment of motion sickness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_sickness) by use of a transdermal patch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transdermal_patch).[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopolamine#cite_note-White-3)

Tumbleweed
14th May 2012, 06:51 AM
This is an excerpt from the Chip Tatum interview with Ted Gunderson where Chip talks about the drug, the CIA and their use of it. It is suspected that the CIA was involed with the RFK assasination and used the drug on Sirhan Sirhan.

http://www.whale.to/b/scopolamine_h.html


Scopolamine

See: LSD (http://www.whale.to/b/lsd_h.html) Drugs used in mind control quotes (http://www.whale.to/b/drugs1.html)
[2003] Drug Turns Crime Victims Into Zombies (http://www.whale.to/b/dr.html)
[2003] NO FINGER PRINTS - NO WITNESSES--NO MEMORY - NO NOTHING (http://www.whale.to/b/scop.html)
Quotes
Scopolomine (truth serum that makes people willing to do whatever they are told). The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave by Fritz Springmeier & Cisco Wheeler 3. THE USE OF DRUGS (http://www.whale.to/b/sp/3.html)
A: You know, Chip, what about Hinckley and when he tried to shoot Reagan, and some of those. You could actually tell somebody, "Go shoot somebody," and they'd do it then. Is that what you're saying? T: That's what I'm saying, and, you know, I'm - if we look at the Yitzhak Rabin case, I think that that is key. Hinckley recalls doing it. The difference between Hinckley and the man in Israel that shot Yitzhak Rabin is, the man in Israel admitted to it initially, and then comes back and said he doesn't recall any of those instances. That's escopolaminia. Transcript of 12 hours of radio interview of Chip Tatum on Intelligence Report. Ted Gundersson interviewe 1999. (http://www.whale.to/b/chip.html)
They chose to use the drug Scopolamine, which also went by the nickname "Burundanga" or "the Voodoo drug". The drug is extracted from the pods of a flowering shrub that grows in remote regions of South America. In its processed, powdered form, Scopolamine is "void of smell, void of taste". When properly administered "it causes absolute obedience" without this being "observable by others". Importantly, the target will not recall any of the events that occurred during the period they were under the spell of the drug.
In outlining these details, Tatum adds that it is important to administer the drug in the correct dosage, for he has known targets to die from too high a dose. Others have "remained under the influence of Burundanga for up to three weeks". Precise dosage can be achieved by liquid ingestion, the powder being readily soluble. Ingestion via cigarettes is also an optimum method of ingestion. It is fast-acting and takes no more than 20 minutes to work.
Tatum states that X was invited to spend a relaxing weekend at a luxury hotel as a guest of his friend George Bush. His host for the weekend was a trusted 18-year veteran field-intelligence officer. The evening started with cocktails and was followed by a fine meal. "'Nothing but the best' were the orders."
Following the meal, he was ushered into the suite of a "blonde bombshell" supplied by the CIA. Mr X had already ingested a dose of Burundanga during pre-dinner cocktails. X was gallant with the blonde as they both moved into the bedroom where video cameras were already set up in one corner. In short order, the blonde had X standing naked in front of her and began to indulge his desires. All the while, the video cameras whirred. Slowly stripping off, the "blonde" revealed his manhood in all its glory. Mr X was instructed to reciprocate the favour and perform fellatio. He obliged, his intimate activities recorded at 24 frames a second on videotape. Tatum says the male prostitute was hired from a bar in New York and killed that same evening.
Two weeks later, X - wholly unaware of the events of that evening - was visited in Nicaragua. He was presented with a copy of the video footage, along with instructions. Tatum says that X can never allow that video to be seen: "Not only does it reveal his homosexuality, but it also reveals his bestiality and satanic worship rituals." As frame after frame flicked by, X reportedly wept, forced to watch himself kill his homosexual "lover" and then engage in the most grisly cannabalistic ritual imaginable. Neutralised, Mr X became a leading member of the Nicaraguan government a few short weeks later.THE PEGASUS FILE by David G. Guyatt (http://www.whale.to/b/guyatt.html)

Awoke
14th May 2012, 08:31 AM
Holy shit Tumbleweed, that is a scary post. But totally believable.

Old Herb Lady
14th May 2012, 11:31 AM
i use a scopalamine patch. you stick it on behind your ear.

Ginger capsules work too.

Edit... I mean swallow them not stick em.

madfranks
14th May 2012, 12:26 PM
I have an intellectual curiosity with psychedelics after reading DMT The Spirit Molecule, but this is seriously one of the most disturbing threads I've ever read...

sirgonzo420
14th May 2012, 12:29 PM
I have an intellectual curiosity with psychedelics after reading DMT The Spirit Molecule, but this is seriously one of the most disturbing threads I've ever read...


DMT is quite intense (but also shockingly safe) - the granddaddy of psychedelics, but in some ways it is on the other end of the spectrum from scopalamine.

In short, DMT is worth trying..... scopalamine, not so much.

JDRock
14th May 2012, 12:45 PM
The real "devils breath" that can turn people into mindless obediant zombies?? Why, the TELEVISION OF COURSE!

Old Herb Lady
14th May 2012, 01:41 PM
The real "devils breath" that can turn peole into mindless obediant zombies?? Why, the TELEVISION OF COURSE!

Ha ! But but I heard dancing with the khazars, er, I mean, dancing with the stars is s'posed to be a hit, tho !

Neuro
14th May 2012, 01:54 PM
Dancing with the Khazars! LMFAO! Well done OHL!

Buddha
14th May 2012, 05:07 PM
Ha ! But but I heard dancing with the khazars, er, I mean, dancing with the stars is s'posed to be a hit, tho !

It b a scrate up hit dawg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3-X5yDLXW4

steyr_m
14th May 2012, 06:39 PM
Yeah, it's old. We had a thread on this in GIM.

There was a piece done on Lew Rockwell today about it, that's the reason for the renewed interest...

steyr_m
14th May 2012, 06:42 PM
DMT is quite intense (but also shockingly safe) - the granddaddy of psychedelics, but in some ways it is on the other end of the spectrum from scopalamine.

In short, DMT is worth trying..... scopalamine, not so much.

I don't know. I was told you naturally release DMT twice in your life -- one of them right before death. Doing any drug is going affect you someday, some how... just my opinion...

osoab
14th May 2012, 06:46 PM
I wonder what happens if you put on more than one....

O.O


chad gives away all his stoves.

Tumbleweed
14th May 2012, 09:15 PM
It is thought the CIA shot RFK in the back of the head and Sirhan Sirhan took the blame for the assasination. It is also thought Sirhan Sirhan was given Scopalamine and used by the CIA as the patsy in the murder. These videos cover it.

Part 1

http://www.whale.to/b/scopolamine_h.html

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyCfJDGdnqE&feature=relmfu

part 3
http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcas...012-0104-1.mp3

There are three more videos concerning the RFK assasination and what appears to me as the CIA using local law inforcenment to cover their tracks. When someone sees something that could cause them problems they go to work on them. SOB's

the woman in the polka dot dress

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoRG5cMrfIk&feature=relmfu

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSgcr00Ou-c&feature=relmfu

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw3PXULxqXg&feature=relmfu

Sirhan the Manchrian candidate. Can't remember a damn thing about the assasination. Sounds like Scopalamine was used to make him a patsy for the assasination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2EqFUB-qE&feature=relmfu

Serpo
14th May 2012, 09:44 PM
I don't know. I was told you naturally release DMT twice in your life -- one of them right before death. Doing any drug is going affect you someday, some how... just my opinion...

it seems it is released every night you sleep apparently and if you are still awake just before you go to sleep you naturally feel what DMT does.

When you are in pre sleep stage sometimes you may notice that everything starts getting a bit dreamy as compared to normal thinking.This to me is our own DMT being released.

Any drug experience becomes an imitation of what can be achieved naturally.


The problem with a drug like this is that someone may take it and have an experience with some higher reality and become damaged because all the bits in between where not built up in the person enough to enter this level perhaps.

I know of at least one person who was badly affected by DMT in South America.

Serpo
14th May 2012, 09:48 PM
It is thought the CIA shot RFK in the back of the head and Sirhan Sirhan took the blame for the assasination. It is also thought Sirhan Sirhan was given Scopalamine and used by the CIA as the patsy in the murder. These videos cover it.

Part 1

http://www.whale.to/b/scopolamine_h.html

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyCfJDGdnqE&feature=relmfu

part 3
http://www.netcastdaily.com/broadcas...012-0104-1.mp3

There are three more videos concerning the RFK assasination and what appears to me as the CIA using local law inforcenment to cover their tracks. When someone sees something that could cause them problems they go to work on them. SOB's

the woman in the polka dot dress

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoRG5cMrfIk&feature=relmfu

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSgcr00Ou-c&feature=relmfu

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw3PXULxqXg&feature=relmfu

Sirhan the Manchrian candidate. Can't remember a damn thing about the assasination. Sounds like Scopalamine was used to make him a patsy for the assasination.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2EqFUB-qE&feature=relmfu

My god ,the CIA would love this stuff , this plant shore has some weird properties........ie turns people into controlled zombies.............

they must want to add it too the water........then they can control us for sure and we wouldnt even know what happened........perfect.

Serpo
14th May 2012, 09:53 PM
And then there was Jonestown where all those people died

Neuro
14th May 2012, 11:49 PM
chad gives away all his stoves.

WOW! Is it that powerful?

Blink
15th May 2012, 05:08 AM
And now that everyone is use to seeing chem-trails (I mean CON-trails), one day it won't be aluminum, it'll be a misting of Scopolamine, giving rise to the zombie apocalypse..........

chad
15th May 2012, 05:36 AM
you guys are a hoot :)

Santa
15th May 2012, 05:45 AM
Send me all your gold and silver.

madfranks
15th May 2012, 07:33 AM
I know of at least one person who was badly affected by DMT in South America.

Can you tell us about it?

PatColo
17th February 2016, 08:23 AM
Sofia Smallstorm just posted this podcast, despite its date > 2 weeks ago; 1h 24m:

edit: heard the whole show now; guy's an "all roads lead to ROME, jesuits, black pope, yada, yada" preacher. I think I heard the word JOO rolled off his tongue once, and that a quick note that jesuits founder Loyola was a sephardic joo. I was chomping at the bit for Sofia to ask him about the joosh element; coz I know she's joo-wise from various shows I've heard her do, but it wasn't to be. :( But it was otherwise a good interview. :)





Devil's Breath 1/30/16
http://aboutthesky.com/images/stories/inmedia/borrachero_crp.jpg

A fascinating introduction to a lower-level mafia that apparently thrives in the big cities: My guest, Paolo, reports on scopolamine, also known as "Devil's Breath" -- a mind-altering hallucinogen made from the seeds of borrachero (Brugmansia) flowers, also called "Angel's Trumpets." Brugmansia are beautiful white blooms that hang downward, commonly seen in warm climates (like California/Florida suburbs!) as well as in the tropics, where the seeds are turned into a means of robbing the rich. It all sounds wild, but our guest has lived to tell it. An immigrant class, not just to America, but all over the Western world, can deploy this substance on "persons of interest" to augment cash flow. Read articles here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2143584/Scopolamine-Powerful-drug-growing-forests-Colombia-ELIMINATES-free-will.html) and here (http://www.womenfitness.net/borrachero_dangerousDrug.htm) ... yet another form of mind-control to look out for! The discussion turns to other subjects, with unusual insights from a well-traveled, very awake thinker.



Listen here-- MP3 (http://aboutthesky.com/images/stories/audio/SSmallstorm_podcast_040_01-30-16.mp3)
(http://aboutthesky.com/images/stories/audio/ssmallstorm_podcast_001_6-7-14.mp3)

Tumbleweed
31st December 2019, 06:43 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04


Thought I'd bump this thread book started because it's good to watch this video and keep it in mind with all the invaders we have coming in to this country and corrupt politicians not doing what Americans want them to do.

It's an interesting video and good reading. It's also a warning to be careful with who you associate.

Cebu_4_2
31st December 2019, 03:12 PM
Just watched it again, what a bad trip.

Tumbleweed
31st December 2019, 05:37 PM
I'm thinking Jeffrey Epstein probably had all of this stuff he wanted and used it when ever needed on politicians. That would explain why they do what ever the jews want them too.

brosil
1st January 2020, 05:34 AM
The Germans did extensive research into scopolamine and similar compounds to use as a truth drug. These reactions don't sound similar. I have to wonder if it's the same drug.By the way, they found scopolamine to be ineffectual as a truth drug.