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Gaillo
13th May 2012, 05:22 PM
Found this today on wikipedia... found it interesting:


The state of New York, which also has a civil law history from its Dutch colonial days, also began a codification of its law in the 19th century. The only part of this codification process that was considered complete is known as the Field Code applying to civil procedure. The original colony of New Netherlands was settled by the Dutch and the law was also Dutch. When the English captured pre-existing colonies they continued to allow the local settlers to keep their civil law. However, the Dutch settlers revolted against the English and the colony was recaptured by the Dutch. When the English finally regained control of New Netherland they forced, as a punishment unique in the history of the British Empire, the English common law upon all the colonists, including the Dutch. This was problematic, as the patroon system of land holding, based on the feudal system and civil law, continued to operate in the colony until it was abolished in the mid-19th century. The influence of Roman Dutch law continued in the colony well into the late 19th century. The codification of a law of general obligations shows how remnants of the civil law tradition in New York continued on from the Dutch days.

The U.S. state of California has a system based on common law, but it has codified the law in the manner of the civil law jurisdictions. The reason for the enactment of the codes in California in the 19th century was to replace a pre-existing system based on Spanish civil law with a system based on common law, similar to that in most other states. California and a number of other Western states, however, have retained the concept of community property derived from civil law. The California courts have treated portions of the codes as an extension of the common-law tradition, subject to judicial development in the same manner as judge-made common law. (Most notably, in the case Li v. Yellow Cab Co., 13 Cal.3d 804 (1975), the California Supreme Court adopted the principle of comparative negligence in the face of a California Civil Code provision codifying the traditional common-law doctrine of contributory negligence.)

Instead of common law, the U.S. state of Louisiana uniquely uses a system based on the Napoleonic code, remaining true to the state's French and Spanish roots, which predate the U.S. annexation of the Louisiana territory in 1803. Historically notable among the code's differences from the more typically implemented system of common law is the role of property rights among women, particularly in inheritance gained by widows.

Eyebone
13th May 2012, 06:00 PM
Thank You, there are a lot of really interesting threads here today.

palani
13th May 2012, 06:12 PM
John Bouvier titled his law dictionary as follows:


A
LAW DICTIONARY
ADAPTED TO THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
AND OF THE
SEVERAL STATES OF THE AMERICAN UNION

With References to the Civil and Other Systems of Foreign Law


Note the inclusion of Civil with other foreign laws?

Note also that his law dictionary is intended for THE UNITED STATE OF AMERICA ... In no way are his definitions associated with the United States.

mamboni
14th May 2012, 09:29 AM
Gaillopalani?

Gallopalani?

Gallipolani?

Gallipoli

Thus spoke the oracle.

Hatha Sunahara
14th May 2012, 09:59 AM
The United States of America is the corporation, established in 1871 by a treasonous congress. The United States is the 'trust' set up by the founding fathers, whose constitution limits the power of the government.

This is a distinction that 99.9% of Americans are completely unaware, and the remainder who are aware are lawyers, politicians and freemen. I was not aware of this distinction until just recently. There is an excellent web site that describes the differences between the United States and the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

http://www.usavsus.info/

That schism is the result of Section 2 of the 14th Amendment to the constitution, which is described here:

http://www.pacinlaw.org/error/

The 14th amendment to the constitution predates Orwell's 1984 by 78 years. I doubt that anyone alive at the time it was passed would have called it Orwellian, but there it is. All the various lawforms in place throughout the states took a back seat to Admiralty/Maritime Law and the Law Merchant because of the 14th Amendment. Yet they never discuss it in the history books, and they no longer teach Civics in schools. Civics was an education of the people about their rights. Kids in school today only learn about American Government, which is 'corporate governance' and has nothing to do with rights or the history of the United States.


Hatha

palani
14th May 2012, 11:26 AM
The United States of America is the corporation, established in 1871 by a treasonous congress. The United States is the 'trust' set up by the founding fathers, whose constitution limits the power of the government.

Hatha

You might have these two entities reversed.

Hatha Sunahara
14th May 2012, 04:13 PM
You might have these two entities reversed.

I do have them reversed. I sometimes confuse myself with my strawman, usually when I am paying bills. The United States of America is the original trust established by the people with a constitution that limited the powers of government. The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (all caps) is the corporation established in 1871 by Congress.

Two things people are completely blind to: That they have a 'legal fiction' called a straw man attached to them; and that their government is now a corporation that no longer operates under the restrictions of the Constitution. Nobody will believe you if you told them, in spite of all the evidence staring them in the face.

It is important that people know that there are two United States. One is the real one, and we don't live there any more. The other is a fake, and a fraud. That is where we Mericuns live today. Most people know this at some level of consciousness. But most people will not admit to being defrauded because they think they are too smart for anybody to do that to them. I wonder if all the lawyers are familiar with this history of the United States?


Hatha

palani
14th May 2012, 04:29 PM
I wonder if all the lawyers are familiar with this history of the United States?


Hatha

This thread might provide some insight as far as how gullible lawyers are. The "dog" is said to have held a BAR card for 14 years altho it seems he might have difficulty counting that high without use of toes.

http://www.suijurisforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2213