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Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 01:24 PM
This stuff freaks me out since I buy raw milk from Organic Pastures bi-monthly. I've been buying it at the local Sprouts organic grocery store, but now I'm concerned that the next time I go to buy raw milk it wont be there. I was paying with a debit card, but from now on I'm only buying this stuff in cash.


(NaturalNews) In a bombshell revelation of the depth of the food police state that now exists in LA County, California, NaturalNews has learned that the LA County health department has unleashed door-to-door raw milk confiscation teams to threaten and intimidate raw dairy customers into surrendering raw milk products they legally purchased and own.

According to Mark McAfee (see quotes below), both LA County and San Diego county have attempted to acquire customer names and addresses from Organic Pastures (www.OrganicPastures.com (http://www.OrganicPastures.com)) for the sole purpose of sending "food confiscation teams" to customers' homes to remove the raw milk from customers' refrigerators. Using both phone calls and home visits, these teams intimidate customers and try to force them to give up their milk.

These revelations have surfaced in a recorded NaturalNews interview with Mark McAfee, the founder of Organic Pastures and a food rights advocate. Here's what he told us:

LA County health enforcers go door to door, demanding your fresh milk

"I received a phone call yesterday morning from a wonderful young gal, a 36-year-old mom out of LA County. She's one of our UPS customers that we deliver overnight raw milk to her house. When the CDFA was in here the other day on our recall, they demanded to have all our delivery addresses for overnight UPS delivery. We screwed up and [inadvertently] gave it to them, they got it from one of our secretaries here. The LA County health department started calling her, six or seven times, demanding that she give up her raw milk from her own home to the health department.

She refused, then they showed up at her house and demanded that she give her raw milk to them. She was getting ready to call 911 for the Sheriff's department and have them removed from her front doorstep, and she was threatening to use her camera to take a picture of them and post it on Facebook for harassing her over her raw milk... The investigators left after she told them she was not going to give them the raw milk and to get the Hell off her property.

This is what's going on, it's like food Nazis, it's incredible what these people are doing, trying to collect food from people's houses, that have not made them ill!

Then the San Diego health department called me up and said oh we want a list of all your buyer's club members, and I said no... and they said we want all their addresses and their names, because we want to go to their homes. I said it ain't happening, we aren't going to give it to you."

Are armed raids on raw milk customers next?

LA County has already conducted armed raids on raw milk distribution centers -- are armed raids on raw milk customers next? Will LA County Health Department investigators start calling on the police to go door to door, arresting raw milk owners as if they were crack dealers?

Remember: The raw milk from Organic Pastures is legally sold, legally purchased, and greatly enjoyed by its customers. There are virtually no complaints about this product. Customers love it. Only the government wants to confiscate it and destroy it.

And even as the county is unleashing food police to confiscate raw milk that authorities say might be dangerous, they cannot find anyone actually harmed by it. Nor do they pay any attention to the fact that upwards of 70 percent of the fresh chicken meat sold at grocery stores across California is routinely contaminated with salmonella and other pathogens.

What this clearly demonstrates is yet another ratcheting up of the California police state, where county authorities reach right into your refrigerator and confiscate food that they claim might not be safe -- food that you've legally purchased and wish to consume knowing full well that it's fresh and raw!

Regulators operating as lawless, idiotic tyrants

The question on all our minds is simple: Where does this end? Having already criminalized raw milk distribution at Rawesome Foods, thrown James Stewart in jail (http://www.naturalnews.com/035208_James_Stewart_torture_county_jail.h... (http://www.naturalnews.com/035208_James_Stewart_torture_county_jail.html)) and completely shuttered the Rawesome operation, California's bureaucrats seem to have too much time and money on their hands, so they target real food and local farms while ignoring the truly dangerous criminals running loose across the streets of L.A.

Such is the inevitable result of big government gone bad, which is almost an oxymoron because big government always goes bad. Eventually, the power granted to authorities at any level (county, state, federal) is turned against the People, and food, farms and freedoms are among the first targets to be threatened.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/035895_food_police_raw_milk_confiscation.html#ixzz 1v9lJeVrH

Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 01:52 PM
I just called my local Sprouts market, and the government has seized all the raw milk off the shelves. Un-fucking-believable.

If anyone knows where I can buy some alternatives online I'd appreciate it.

General of Darkness
17th May 2012, 02:00 PM
While negros and metizos run wild in the streets, these fuckers are only concerned with one thing, COMMERCE and COLLECTING REVENUE or suppressing COMPETITION.

lapis
17th May 2012, 02:10 PM
I just called my local Sprouts market, and the government has seized all the raw milk off the shelves. Un-fucking-believable.

WTF?! Unbelievable. I was just at a small hobby dairy farm yesterday with one of my occasional raw milk suppliers, and I was joking about how I never tell anyone about him or else I'd have to kill them.

One of my friends thinks his operation is too small to attract scrutiny from the "authorities," but I think she's wrong. They are absolutely willing to spend millions on cracking down on these small producers despite being "broke."

It's a good thing I still don't know his last name or his exact address or phone number. I think it may be time for us to get him a membership in the Farm To Consumer Legal Defense Fund.


If anyone knows where I can buy some alternatives online I'd appreciate it.You can ask your local WAPF Chapter Leader, or see if Claravale delivers to a farmer's market near you. Their raw milk is pretty tasty, and they don't have any Holsteins AFAIK.

ETA: You can also join the Raw Dairy Yahoo group and find people: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/

ximmy
17th May 2012, 02:21 PM
There's probably something more to this, remember Batman 1989:

"The poison works when components are mixed. Hairspray won't do it alone.
But hairspray mixed with lipstick and perfume will be toxic, and traceable."

TPTB use chemicals in products that become deadly when combined. They target products that most every sheep uses. Milk probably has one of these chemicals, as well as influenza shots... and more than likely, soft drinks.

Hell yeah, they don't want competing alternative products on the market. That's why it seems so ridiculous for them to fight for milk.

chad
17th May 2012, 02:32 PM
at least some people in the mainstream are getting hot and bothered about this. steal millions and create fake money systems to siphon off the country's wealth? who cares. ban raw milk? I'M INCENSED!

palani
17th May 2012, 02:38 PM
Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures!!!

http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/russellsaunders/files/2012/05/breastfeeding.jpeg

http://www.tntmagazine.com/image.php/media/content/_master/42940/images/jason-biggs-breastfeeding1.jpg?file=media%2Fcontent%2F_master% 2F42940%2Fimages%2Fjason-biggs-breastfeeding1.jpg&width=450

lapis
17th May 2012, 02:40 PM
TPTB use chemicals in products that become deadly when combined. They target products that most every sheep uses. Milk probably has one of these chemicals, as well as influenza shots... and more than likely, soft drinks.

It would not surprise me at all if this is the case. ::) >:(

Coincidentally, I've been reading up on nutrition researcher Ray Peat's (rather interesting and out there) articles. He pushes a diet that's high in natural sugar like fruit and orange juice, but he also drinks a lot of milk.

He's an older gentleman, probably in his late 60s 70s and he said that he used to be able to drink frozen orange juice from the store without any problem, until they changed the processing. Now he only drinks fresh-squeezed orange juice (http://www.dannyroddy.com/main/2011/12/29/ray-peats-brain-building-a-foundation-for-better-understandi.html):

"Until a few years ago, I would drink a couple of quarts of orange juice from pulp-free frozen concentrate every day, then I started noticing those allergy symptoms, and investigated their production processes. They had recently introduced an enzyme technology to make pulp more water soluble.

For years, it had been used to dispose of massive amounts of otherwise waste pulp by putting it into the "creamy" or "home style" pulpy juices, but then suddenly the relatively clear so-called pulp-free juice began leaving a residue on glasses, and resisting passage through filter paper, besides causing allergy symptoms.

For several decades I have watched as traditionally safe foods have been altered, and have found that many people have developed allergic problems when their favorite foods were changed by new technologies. "

I'll bet this is one of the reasons why "they" are trying to make older people get Alzheimer's. They want to keep them from noticing these kinds of changes and being able to pass on their knowledge and wisdom gleaned from a long life to the unsuspecting younger generations.

lapis
17th May 2012, 02:42 PM
at least some people in the mainstream are getting hot and bothered about this. steal millions and create fake money systems to siphon off the country's wealth? who cares. ban raw milk? I'M INCENSED!

LOL!

A lot of people who are passionate about raw dairy tend to know about the fake money.

Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 02:47 PM
I'm considering becoming a member of the Weston A. Price foundation, but I'm still testing to find out if this stuff will stop/reverse my cavities. So far, I haven't noticed any changes on the cavity, but the other parts of my mouth have healed. I'm convinced some of the stuff they are saying is true, but I'm not completely won over yet. I'm not sure if the cavity will stay as-is (just remain as it is and not get worse), or if my tooth will actually grow back.

I have a tub of raw butter I can use, plus I can always buy raw butter oil online.


The most success I've had actually has come from eating raw, lacto-fermented sauerkraut (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?61159-Raw-Lacto-Fermented-Sauerkraut) I made from raw milk.

gunDriller
17th May 2012, 02:55 PM
I just called my local Sprouts market, and the government has seized all the raw milk off the shelves. Un-fucking-believable.

If anyone knows where I can buy some alternatives online I'd appreciate it.


and we pay the salaries of these Judeo-Fascist Soviet Commissar's.

until we refuse to pay their salaries.

palani
17th May 2012, 03:01 PM
I'm still testing to find out if this stuff will stop/reverse my cavities.

The moderator of this yahoo group has an interesting approach which he claims is healing his teeth (magnetite water). Requires membership though.
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ormus-PWT/

Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 03:12 PM
You can ask your local WAPF Chapter Leader...



I'm contacting them now. I'll give feedback on what they say if they respond to me.

lapis
17th May 2012, 03:16 PM
I'm considering becoming a member of the Weston A. Price foundation, but I'm still testing to find out if this stuff will stop/reverse my cavities.

You don't have to be a member to contact them. It's part of their duties to supply information to the public.



I'm convinced some of the stuff they are saying is true, but I'm not completely won over yet.

I don't blame you; for me it's kind of discouraging because it seems like the people who get the most dramatic health improvements are those who eat completely clean, 100% grass-fed and pasture-raised meats and organic produce, mainly from small farms.

The best grass-fed meat but especially dairy seems to be on the East Coast, raised by the Amish and similar groups. It's almost impossible for us to get that type of quality dairy in California, although it's more likely in NoCal where the grass is greener and abundant.

Honestly, as much as I love Mark McAfee and Organic Pastures, the products are not as good as the Amish stuff I've had. I think part of the reason is that he has Holsteins, which aren't known for producing quality milk (but known for the quantity of milk produced).

The other problem is that he goes by the dairy manufacturing standards and so his whole milk only contains the legal minimum of 3% butterfat.

Contrast this with the other traditional breeds like the Guernsey and Jersey cows whose milk can contain 4.5 and 4.9% butterfat respectively (http://www.raw-milk-facts.com/dairy_cow_breeds.html).

Most of the smaller dairy farmers like the Amish give you whole milk without skimming any of the cream off, and this is probably one of the reasons why the milk is better for you than Organic Pasture's. They've also been doing it for generations.

Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 03:25 PM
The grass-fed beef I get is imported from Uruguay. It's literally the same price as normal beef ($5.99 lb for ground beef for example.) I honestly prefer the idea its from South America since they don't factory farm everything down there. It's totally normal to eat grass-fed beef in that part of the world, so I'd think it would be safer than the grass fed stuff here in America, especially with all the nuclear fallout in the Northern Hemisphere.

lapis
17th May 2012, 03:28 PM
I think you're right about all that! It's too bad, because I like to support my local or at least domestic farmers.

Osiris
17th May 2012, 04:25 PM
Interesting that you can get raw milk from sprouts, my local sprouts only sells organic. I also get grass fed beef from sprouts that is imported from uruguay, but it's twice the price of the regular. I remember when I bought it the first time the cashier made a comment about not trusting meat from another country.... Lol!

Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 05:50 PM
So I talked to the Weston A. Price Foundation and they said another organic food chain called Mother's Market carries raw milk from a brand called Claravale, but all the stores I called were sold out. Since Organic Pastures has been removed from sale for the moment, it has caused the one of the alternative raw milk brands, Claravale, to basically sell out all over Southern California. Most of the new shipments for Claravale should come in on Saturday too. Hope that helps people who are interested.

So what I gather is the main producer of raw milk in California (Organic Pastures) was forced to do a recall by the Feds based on some bullshit charges, but they proved nothing was wrong so they should be able to sell again within a month or so. That means the only other raw milk producer (I know of) Claravale is the only option there is, and there's not much of it. So if you can find it, grab it.


Just a little sidenote, Organic Pastures actually names the Weston A. Price Foundation on the back of their label, which really impressed me with their product.

Video from Organic Pastures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkdGHuwajsY

lapis
17th May 2012, 05:59 PM
There may be one good thing about Organic Pastures milk; Mark McAfee claims in a response (http://www.thecompletepatient.com/article/2012/may/16/food-police-mn-and-ca-giving-us-more-opportunities-and-incentives-resist#comment-20073)to a The Complete Patient blog post that his dairy's milk tested negative for radiation:


"Radiation tests were finnally completed at Silliker Labs for OPDC....they will be posted at our FB in the morning....non detect on any of the radioactive isotopes from the Japanese event. The complete report tested a tons of them....all negative. Fresno is in an area of little rain...rain brings in the radiation and drops it to the ground. No rain...very little if any radiation."

Shami-Amourae
17th May 2012, 06:18 PM
I thought I would post this too:
http://www.realmilk.com/images/RawMilkNationMapSmall2.jpg
http://farmtoconsumer.org/raw_milk_map.htm

California actually is one of the freest states on food freedom, contrary to popular belief. It's one of the few things I've loved about this state. It's under attack, so I'm making a fuss.

I'm shocked it's banned in Nevada and Montana, I'd think those would be freer states than California in food freedom.