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Serpo
31st May 2012, 03:42 PM
Published 1, May 28, 2012

http://jonathanturley.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/220px-frankfurt_am_main-stadtansicht_von_der_deutschherrnbruecke_am_fruehe n_abend-20110808.jpg?w=150&h=100 (http://jonathanturley.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/220px-frankfurt_am_main-stadtansicht_von_der_deutschherrnbruecke_am_fruehe n_abend-20110808.jpg)http://jonathanturley.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/220px-ohotnikovo1.jpg?w=150&h=112 (http://jonathanturley.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/220px-ohotnikovo1.jpg)Germany’s economy is viewed as the most successful major economy in the world today and the key bedrock for European recovery. While many conservative leaders in the United States are calling on the tearing up of environmental protections to help our economy, Germany has shown the fallacy of that claim. The Germans continue to set new records on environmental protection. This week the German solar power plants produced a world record 22 gigawatts of electricity per hour — literally half of the energy used through the key midday hours in the country.
That is the equivalent to 20 nuclear power stations at full capacity without any radioactive waste left over. The Germans are getting rid of all nuclear plants after the Fukushima nuclear disaster last year. Instead, the entire country will be using greater renewable energy sources such as wind, solar and bio-mass.

This is not some tiny country with a mainly tourism economy but one of the greatest industrial nations on Earth. It vividly demonstrates how far we have fallen back in the leadership on environmental issues and technology. As we return to an oil and coal emphasis on energy, the Germans are expanding their control over this industry and reducing the health costs of pollution for their population. It is the very definition of leadership and vision that is so lacking in our own country.
To our German friends, we say gut durchgebraten and danke danke?


http://jonathanturley.org/2012/05/28/germany-hits-record-in-solar-power-with-50-of-energy-during-mid-day-hours/

ximmy
31st May 2012, 04:17 PM
Remember this?

Germany has pulled out of NATO operations due to disagreements over the mission in Libya. To add to that, Germany did the unthinkable: it voted in favor of a UN Security Council resolution calling the Israeli settlements in occupied Palestinian territory illegal and demanding the immediate halt of all settlement activity. Then, Ms Merkel did something very strange: she ordered the shutdown of Germany’s nuclear reactors.
Curiously, the Japanese, too, have now openly sided with the Palestinians — and they have now have serious
problems with runaway nukes. Coincidence? Perhaps. But consider this: The same Israeli company providing ‘security’ to Japan’s reactors is the one that’s also responsible for the nukes in Germany. Reckon that had something to do with why Merkel hurriedly ordered the shut down of German reactors? What does she know? Was Israel’s Stuxnet virus responsible — intentionally or not — for the Japanese meltdown? Was it unleashed on the Japanese as a warning (albeit one that got out of control) not to mess with God’s chosen people? Is this what Merkel fears could happen in Germany?
Think that’s farfetched? Not when you consider that just yesterday, BOTH engines of Merkel’s immaculately maintained Puma chopper suffered simultaneous flameouts. Is Ms Merkel now suddenly waking up to the fact that the Israelis are stark raving mad and will stop at nothing to get what they want?

http://pakconnects.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-merkel-hurriedly-ordered-shut-down.html

Serpo
31st May 2012, 04:42 PM
No dont remember about German connection but ....................http://lcs4all.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Thank-You3.jpg

joboo
31st May 2012, 05:07 PM
Did everyone read the technical details on that stuxnet virus?

It was literally fingerprint written to specifically mess up Iran's Natanz facility.

Can't find the article but it was coded so specific to that facility it was unbelievable.

With a new snips in the code it could be modified to do the same to any facility as long as inside info is known.

One dude brings in a thumb drive, plugs it in. Infection spreads.

Makes you wonder a while back about those Iranian facility scientists getting offed by dudes on motorcycles riding up and putting magnetic "booms" on their cars. Poof.

Golden
2nd June 2012, 11:40 AM
This deserves a bump.

Errosion Of Accord
2nd June 2012, 02:52 PM
Solar energy is somewhat of a farce. I know that will piss some people off but it is just physics. It's pretty hard to find publications about this fact as I just tried and this is the best I could do. If you read the article keep in mind that the 371 square feet mentioned in the article is if you could convert the suns energy at 100%. With a conversion factor of about 20% you have to multiply 371 * 5 for a total of 1855 square feet.... Your car would have to be as big as the floor plan of my house.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/spinning-wheels-community-car-lovers/2008/Jul/26/why-there-wont-be-a-solar-powered-car/

Gaillo
2nd June 2012, 03:04 PM
Errosion,

I disagree. Pretty much ALL energy on earth (except Geothermal and radioactive decay) originated as sunlight.
To say that solar energy is a "farce" just because a modern car would need that much solar panel space is misleading... as are the 20% conversion factor (cells are getting a LOT more efficient). Nobody in their right mind would put many cells on a car anyway, they would generate the electricity at a fixed site and use that to charge an electric car's batteries.

It is unfortunate that Solar energy carries with it the stigma of envirotard/leftist/"green" political bullshit, as it truly is the ULTIMATE inexhaustible renewable energy source.

Errosion Of Accord
2nd June 2012, 03:20 PM
I understand what you are saying, and if the cost were right I wouldn't mind filling my roof with them but you can never get away from the fact that even at 100% conversion you will never get more than 100 watts per square foot and you will never be able to power industry with such paltry power. You can take exception to that because I'm a little biased since I dig ancient solidified peat moss for a living. I was searching for a talk that i heard a physicist make on this very subject but it would seem that the innerwebs has scrubbed it's self of the foul heretic. I was looking for something far better than what I posted.

Errosion Of Accord
2nd June 2012, 03:57 PM
It took some doing but here's the guy.

" To produce as much energy as a conventional 1,000 megawatt power plant using solar would require a 127 square mile field of solar mirrors collecting enough heat to turn a turbine. Now that would have quite an environmental impact!"

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2002/11/01/debunking-solar-energy-myth

Serpo
2nd June 2012, 04:05 PM
The amazing thing about Germany doing this is that they have less sun than a lot of places ie OZ yet because they have the will they have achieved great things with solar.Far more than Australia which has plenty of sun but little will.

The acid rain they where getting in Germany is probably another motivation.

Mouse
2nd June 2012, 09:58 PM
The other amazing thing about Germany doing this, is that there is close to 100% chance, they have NOT. It's a fucking lie.

Enjoy

osoab
3rd June 2012, 05:00 AM
The other amazing thing about Germany doing this, is that there is close to 100% chance, they have NOT. It's a fucking lie.

Enjoy


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DMac
4th June 2012, 08:27 AM
Solar can only ever be trusted for bonus or supplemental power, in my mind. Volcanoes could spell disaster to a society bent on reliance of solar.

I still don't understand why there aren't any major thorium reactors.

PlatinumBlonde
4th June 2012, 11:21 AM
Makes you wonder a while back about those Iranian facility scientists getting offed by dudes on motorcycles riding up and putting magnetic "booms" on their cars. Poof.

When I saw this I thought about when Princess Diana was killed in the car accident..

Awoke
4th June 2012, 11:32 AM
When I saw this I thought about when Princess Diana was killed in the car accident..


Yeah, car "accident"

JohnQPublic
4th June 2012, 08:43 PM
I think part of Germany's strategy is wind + solar. Short to medium term it includes lots of coal to make up for the closing nukes