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Ares
29th June 2012, 10:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLU9-VqVxY


Link-----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLU9-VqVxY
General of Darkness
29th June 2012, 10:59 AM
So if Ben is correct and this bill was actually a TAX didn't it have to be ratified by both houses, which it was not?

Also.

Direct Tax Except for the Sixteenth Amendment: A direct tax is one pay directly to the government. Except for what is stated in the sixteenth amendment, this is not permitted.

Is this NOT a direct TAX then.
General of Darkness
29th June 2012, 11:18 AM
While simple, it's how it works.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0&feature=related
Ares
29th June 2012, 11:21 AM
So if Ben is correct and this bill was actually a TAX didn't it have to be ratified by both houses, which it was not?

Also.

Direct Tax Except for the Sixteenth Amendment: A direct tax is one pay directly to the government. Except for what is stated in the sixteenth amendment, this is not permitted.

Is this NOT a direct TAX then.

Yep it is, an Ben is correct the setate passed it because it was NOT a tax bill. But the Supreme court ruled that it was. Invalidating it because it did not pass the house before it was "deemed passed".
General of Darkness
29th June 2012, 11:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5M50xBz1cU&feature=related
mamboni
29th June 2012, 12:24 PM
Why do you waste your time asking whether the government is operating within the law? Law and due process are dead. The government is a kleptocracy and it will do what it wants and take what it needs. And who will stop it, SCOTUS? SCOTUS has just rolled over and capitulated to Obama and shown that it has no intention of engaging in a fight to defend the Constitution. The Constitution is dead and buried, a mere legal fig leaf. It's over. Time to batten the hatches and get ready for America Part Deux: Unrestricted Rape and Pillage of the Poeple.
palani
29th June 2012, 12:30 PM
The constitution has never really applied to 14th amendment U.S. citizens. It applies to the several States and the federal government. There are no rules established for the relationship between the federal government and U.S. citizens though the several States have established rules for dealing with these U.S. citizens. They write statute law for those within "this state", require licenses, tax them, incarcerate them, etc.
jimswift
29th June 2012, 12:48 PM
Don't know if it has been posted, but Schiff makes good sense here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNCyEC9r_mk