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chad
2nd July 2012, 01:36 PM
if you have kids, i am pleased to report that it is normal. no mixing in of minorities where they don't fit to send social programming messages, no overt social propaganda, no environmental b.s. etc. i could not believe this film was actually made. it was quite good. as i hate almost any movie made, i am quite please to recommend it.

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Gaillo
2nd July 2012, 01:38 PM
I've always liked Pixar animations. Good stuff!

Disney, on the otherhand, can suck on giant gorilla dicks for all I care... I refuse to watch anything put out by that cesspit of a social engineering operation!

gunDriller
2nd July 2012, 01:39 PM
every once in a while they make a good old-fashioned movie with no agenda.

i thought Pixar's "Ratatouille" fell into this category, also.

chad
2nd July 2012, 01:55 PM
I've always liked Pixar animations. Good stuff!

Disney, on the otherhand, can suck on giant gorilla dicks for all I care... I refuse to watch anything put out by that cesspit of a social engineering operation!

after cars 2 i had little hope for pixar. then they went and did this.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
2nd July 2012, 02:29 PM
Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.

chad
2nd July 2012, 02:37 PM
Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.

huh? the men were all talked up at the end as having pulled together and saving the kingdom. the queen was shown in the end as being very shallow/stupid and not caring enough about her family. it wasn't about female independence, it was about merida's family finally pulling together as a unit and not just doing what was best for themselves. in the final scene, both the female figures admit they were wrong and that they should have listened to each other and made the family stronger from the beginning. i thought the family as a unit angle was very nice. i think you really have stretch to find fault with this one.

Skirnir_
2nd July 2012, 03:06 PM
Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.

That is exactly why I prefer Korean films: the quality is about as high as the west, the plots and character development are deep, and they are free of social engineering. In passing, Chihwaseon makes all western flim I have seen, save perhaps for LotR, look like farces.

zap
2nd July 2012, 07:06 PM
I wanted to see this movie,( its got to be better then The Lorax) But had to send my little one with my mom, she wanted a bow and arrow set after seeing the movie.

chad
2nd July 2012, 07:12 PM
my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.

Silver Rocket Bitches!
2nd July 2012, 07:29 PM
I didn't see the movie Tangled but wasn't that one also about the princess saving the day in spite of the bumbling idiot? I see a pattern but maybe I'm looking for it and have some confirmation bias goin on.

Neuro
2nd July 2012, 07:29 PM
I thought Ice Age 4 was fun, and good for children, without any specific agenda!

Osiris
2nd July 2012, 07:54 PM
I didn't see the movie Tangled but wasn't that one also about the princess saving the day in spite of the bumbling idiot? I see a pattern but maybe I'm looking for it and have some confirmation bias goin on.


I believe so. I only saw the end but that is pretty much what I got out of it.

chad
2nd July 2012, 07:55 PM
I didn't see the movie Tangled but wasn't that one also about the princess saving the day in spite of the bumbling idiot? I see a pattern but maybe I'm looking for it and have some confirmation bias goin on.

you are correct, tangled was horrible and the pattern was there.

MNeagle
2nd July 2012, 08:27 PM
my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.

Archery is a valuable skill, encourage it!

LuckyStrike
2nd July 2012, 10:15 PM
if you have kids, i am pleased to report that it is normal. no mixing in of minorities where they don't fit to send social programming messages, no overt social propaganda, no environmental b.s. etc. i could not believe this film was actually made. it was quite good. as i hate almost any movie made, i am quite please to recommend it.



Funny you say this my wife went to see it with her mom. I had never heard of it, she told me it was about Scottish kids. I asked how many asians mexicans, jews or black transvestites it had. She said none. I asked about global warming, depopulation, feminine males etc. She said it didn't have that either.

Which is refreshing.

Of course I still refuse to go to movies on moral grounds, but I'm glad every once in a decade a decent movie sneaks through.

Awoke
3rd July 2012, 05:22 AM
I will bet you all that I will be able to find programming in it. No doubt about it.

sunshine05
3rd July 2012, 08:34 AM
Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.

I took my son to see the movie. I didn't think about it until your post, but you're right. They made the male suitors look incompetent, ugly and stupid. I agree it was a male bashing movie. There was even a part where there was a big fight, including the king, and the queen had to sit there and wait for them to stop their childish behavior.

The queen arranged everything and simply told the king about it - such as the arrangements to bring the suitors in to arrange the marriage for their daughter. Subtle...but it was there. And I didn't even think about it until I read your post.

chad
3rd July 2012, 08:35 AM
but the entire point of the movie was that the queen was stupid for "running things." that's the whole tagline of the movie "change your fate." merida didn't want to ed up being the next bossy queen, she wanted to fall in love and marry whoever she chose, not be "the leader."

jimswift
3rd July 2012, 09:46 AM
There was this one that wasn't too bad:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmUD9Jhfh_U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmUD9Jhfh_U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmUD9Jhfh_U)

muffin
3rd July 2012, 10:40 AM
my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.

funny, i felt the same way after watching the hunger games.....

chad
3rd July 2012, 10:46 AM
i think it's normal. when i was 13, i wanted to be a professional boxer like rocky and clubber lang.

jimswift
3rd July 2012, 10:54 AM
i think it's normal. when i was 13, i wanted to be a professional boxer like rocky and clubber lang.

Ha! I was a tad younger, but I did too. Then Top Gun had me really wanting to be a pilot.

Horn
3rd July 2012, 10:58 AM
huh? the men were all talked up at the end as having pulled together and saving the kingdom. the queen was shown in the end as being very shallow/stupid and not caring enough about her family. it wasn't about female independence, it was about merida's family finally pulling together as a unit and not just doing what was best for themselves. in the final scene, both the female figures admit they were wrong and that they should have listened to each other and made the family stronger from the beginning. i thought the family as a unit angle was very nice. i think you really have stretch to find fault with this one.

Sounds just like Casa de mi Padre :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5GYrBB86Fo

milehi
3rd July 2012, 11:05 AM
i think it's normal. when i was 13, i wanted to be a professional boxer like rocky and clubber lang.

When I was 13, Red Dawn made me want to head out to a BOL, practicing guerrilla warfare.

Awoke
3rd July 2012, 11:10 AM
I wanted to be a ninja, thanks to Sho Kosugi (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0467563/).

sunshine05
3rd July 2012, 11:12 AM
but the entire point of the movie was that the queen was stupid for "running things." that's the whole tagline of the movie "change your fate." merida didn't want to ed up being the next bossy queen, she wanted to fall in love and marry whoever she chose, not be "the leader."

True. That was the main idea of the movie and it was a good movie. They did make the men look bad though, but I try not to overthink it too much! There are some kids movies that I walk out of just amazed at the propaganda. I didn't feel that way with this movie.

Dogman
3rd July 2012, 11:14 AM
I wanted to see this movie,( its got to be better then The Lorax) But had to send my little one with my mom, she wanted a bow and arrow set after seeing the movie.


my daughter (9) wants to do archery now as well.


i think it's normal. when i was 13, i wanted to be a professional boxer like rocky and clubber lang.

Young active imaginations are fueled by all kinds of stuff, movies, story's and a tad of everything. The sky is the limit because they are still young. Whom among us have not thought at that age, when you got a new pair of tennis shoes to replace the ones that were falling apart and off your feet. That you could run faster, jump higher, stop quicker!

And as MNeagle said archery is a fine sport and skill best started young.

Awoke
4th July 2012, 06:07 AM
Boo to you and your lack of perception.

This IS yet another social engineering flick with a heavy message centralized around female independence and obsolescence of men. Once again in a children's movie, viewers are shown the ineptitude of men while the female characters are displayed as strong, independent heroines. Several times the movie alluded to the King himself being nothing more than a figurehead with the Queen making all the decisions. The men were brutes. The women were civilized.

The ginger girl doesn't want to marry any of the male suitors, shuns girlish clothes/etiquette and preaches acceptance. All in time for the much touted month of pride.

This movie, like all Disney movies, has an agenda hidden just under the surface. It wasn't as 'in your face' as, say, some of these commercials and tv shows that show men as bumbling and women as virtuous but it's there.

This is all true.

Add to that, this movie was rife with witchcraft, occultism, communion with demons/spirits, shapeshifting magic spells, promotion of rebellion, etc.

EDIT - Beyond here is spoilers.

The "will-o-the-wisps" are ancient folklore that represent a danger in the woods, yet in this movie they are portrayed as good spirits that will "lead you to your fate".

The steady references and image-programming of the druidic cultism started at the beginning, and the final climatic battle took place in the center of a stonehenge type druidic circle.

There was a looming shadow of ultra-violence when the main character first discovered the witches cabin and the witch demanded that she left: every knife, fork, spear, poker, rake and other pointy tool suddenly came to life on it's own and threatened to kill her as she tried to negotiate with the witch. That scene made me wince.

There were a lot of unsettling parts, while the mother was turned into a bear, and she threatened ultra-violence on her own daughter as she started to settle into her new life as a bear. Extremely unsettling, psychologically potent suggestion that a mother could rip her own child apart in a second flat.

The three sons/brothers (the triplets) were all portrayed as too stupid to talk, yet crafty and shadey and sneaky enough to come up with elaborate plans for stealing foods/desserts or anything else. They were like little red headed ninjas.

The end battle entailed the killing of a monster bear, that was also a victim of a shapeshifting witchcraft spell, and was absolutely evil; but once killed, the spirit of the conquering warrior that was turned into a bear came out of the bear, and solemnly nodded in appreciation of being killed. As if he was a prisoner in the evil bear's body, but he was a known bloodthirsty murderer and bretrayer of his own brothers from the beginning, long before he approached the witch for a spell to make him even stronger. (Which is why she turned him into a bear)

Of the three suitors:
- the blonde haired and blue eyed on was made to look, talk and act retarded, literally.
- the other blonde haired and blue eyed one was made to be fat, slothful and incomprehensible in speech. (Even his father had no idea what he was saying)
- the only "normal" suitor was made to look healthy, strong and intelligent and this one was given a huge jew nose with other jew facial features. This character enjoyed more exposure than the other two suitors. (They showed this guy all the time). He also wore the hero-paint of Braveheart.

The final message was that you can change your own fate and that there is no power in the universe that superscedes your ability to change your fate, which is a thinly disguised dismissal of God and the deification of humans.

There is probably much much more, but I would need to watch it again.

EDIT - Another thing I just thought of is the main Characters name is Merida, and every single time I heard her mother say her name it sounded like she was saying Murder.

Awoke
4th July 2012, 06:18 AM
The suitors:


http://www.pixarplace.com/wp-content/uploads/bravecarde.jpeg
http://www.pixarplace.com/wp-content/uploads/bravecarda.jpeg
http://www.pixarplace.com/wp-content/uploads/bravecardc.jpeg

sunshine05
4th July 2012, 08:03 AM
Great summary, Awoke. Very insightful.

chad
4th July 2012, 10:38 AM
This is all true.

Add to that, this movie was rife with witchcraft, occultism, communion with demons/spirits, shapeshifting magic spells, promotion of rebellion, etc.

EDIT - Beyond here is spoilers.

The "will-o-the-wisps" are ancient folklore that represent a danger in the woods, yet in this movie they are portrayed as good spirits that will "lead you to your fate".

The steady references and image-programming of the druidic cultism started at the beginning, and the final climatic battle took place in the center of a stonehenge type druidic circle.

There was a looming shadow of ultra-violence when the main character first discovered the witches cabin and the witch demanded that she left: every knife, fork, spear, poker, rake and other pointy tool suddenly came to life on it's own and threatened to kill her as she tried to negotiate with the witch. That scene made me wince.

There were a lot of unsettling parts, while the mother was turned into a bear, and she threatened ultra-violence on her own daughter as she started to settle into her new life as a bear. Extremely unsettling, psychologically potent suggestion that a mother could rip her own child apart in a second flat.

The three sons/brothers (the triplets) were all portrayed as too stupid to talk, yet crafty and shadey and sneaky enough to come up with elaborate plans for stealing foods/desserts or anything else. They were like little red headed ninjas.

The end battle entailed the killing of a monster bear, that was also a victim of a shapeshifting witchcraft spell, and was absolutely evil; but once killed, the spirit of the conquering warrior that was turned into a bear came out of the bear, and solemnly nodded in appreciation of being killed. As if he was a prisoner in the evil bear's body, but he was a known bloodthirsty murderer and bretrayer of his own brothers from the beginning, long before he approached the witch for a spell to make him even stronger. (Which is why she turned him into a bear)

Of the three suitors:
- the blonde haired and blue eyed on was made to look, talk and act retarded, literally.
- the other blonde haired and blue eyed one was made to be fat, slothful and incomprehensible in speech. (Even his father had no idea what he was saying)
- the only "normal" suitor was made to look healthy, strong and intelligent and this one was given a huge jew nose with other jew facial features. This character enjoyed more exposure than the other two suitors. (They showed this guy all the time). He also wore the hero-paint of Braveheart.

The final message was that you can change your own fate and that there is no power in the universe that superscedes your ability to change your fate, which is a thinly disguised dismissal of God and the deification of humans.

There is probably much much more, but I would need to watch it again.

EDIT - Another thing I just thought of is the main Characters name is Merida, and every single time I heard her mother say her name it sounded like she was saying Murder.

alright, i concede.

Awoke
4th July 2012, 10:55 AM
Sorry Chad, I was not trying to "one-up" you bro.

I just really pay attention to this stuff. My kids need to be protected.

chad
4th July 2012, 11:00 AM
no, no, it's alright + i appreciate. i just found it to be less annoying than normal. maybe i was too hyped on it when i posted my review.

Awoke
4th July 2012, 11:07 AM
I did enjoy the movie though, I have to say.

This one character in particular made me laugh everytime he spoke:


http://www.pixarplace.com/wp-content/uploads/bravecardf.jpeg

zap
4th July 2012, 11:53 PM
Sorry Chad, I was not trying to "one-up" you bro.

I just really pay attention to this stuff. My kids need to be protected.

I haven't seen the movie, so I really can't comment on it yet.

But though my experiences I have learned you can't protect your/my kids from life (you can try.... but your not going to be here forever to protect them) You can teach them all you know, and right from wrong, and hope they take the path you would have.

Awoke
5th July 2012, 06:14 AM
I haven't seen the movie, so I really can't comment on it yet.

But though my experiences I have learned you can't protect your/my kids from life (you can try.... but your not going to be here forever to protect them) You can teach them all you know, and right from wrong, and hope they take the path you would have.

By teaching them how the media tries to brainwash them, the khazar plan is disarmed.
By showing them the subconscious lessons that are being subtly implanted in their minds, the programming is disarmed.

That is protecting them: Teaching them what to be on guard for.

SLV^GLD
5th July 2012, 10:24 AM
Can someone please show me all the jew-trash programming in UP? I don't doubt it was there but I remember really enjoying the movie and I'm in the mood to have my enjoyment of it forever spoiled.

chad
5th July 2012, 10:34 AM
the overwhelming theme of up! was "just be satisfied with everyday life and where/who you are, don't reach for lofty goals or dreams."

LuckyStrike
5th July 2012, 11:54 AM
I haven't seen the movie, so I really can't comment on it yet.

But though my experiences I have learned you can't protect your/my kids from life (you can try.... but your not going to be here forever to protect them) You can teach them all you know, and right from wrong, and hope they take the path you would have.

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't see this as sheltering your kids from reality. You can teach your kids about brainwashing without allowing their young brains to be defiled at a young age. You can teach them about healthy and unhealthy foods without feeding them unhealthy foods. My point ultimately is that people are aware of what is good to feed your body, and wouldn't feed their kids pure junk food. But people are unaware of what feeds their soul. When the jewish media is on it is feeding your mind and feeding your soul and it corrupts both to the point where you are no longer capable of thought. I don't know anyone who I consider to be intelligent who watches a lot of TV and for good reason.

Awoke
5th July 2012, 11:59 AM
Can someone please show me all the jew-trash programming in UP? I don't doubt it was there but I remember really enjoying the movie and I'm in the mood to have my enjoyment of it forever spoiled.

I will watch it and see what I can find.

Awoke
5th July 2012, 12:00 PM
We are lucky to have you, Nordic Strike.