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Glass
3rd July 2012, 02:34 AM
So there is another Diamond (lets call him Bob), running Barclays Bank in the UK.

He has quit and apparently spat the dummy big time, threatening to be found floating face down in his swimming pool. Actually he is threatening to tell all and start throwing about some muck on other people who were in the know. He is threatening to name Pollies and Regulators who they have greased. Personally I think we can be generalists here and just say they all knew, now into the pool fellas!


It's escalating. Following the resignation of Barclays' Chairman this morning, the government announced a twin probe into the Libor system and banking standards; and Bob Diamond (Barclays CEO) is threatening, according to the FT (http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/0130d092-c473-11e1-9c1e-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1zT41pUmr), to reveal potentially embarrassing details about Barclays' dealing with regulators if he comes under fire at a parliamentary hearing on Wednesday over Lie-borgate. Unlike his almost-namesake Jamie Dimon who suffered through the indignity of a congressional probing, Bob has gone all Mutually Assured Destruction with confrontational tactics that could further aggravate the fraught relations between the bank and the authorities. "If he is attacked, he will fight back" seems to be well understood and the key aspect - as we have pointed out - is that if this is pursued too vehemently then the whole house of cards could come down as [regulators and politicians] "likely knew perfectly well those rates were not the ones where banks were prepared to lend to each other". So much was made at the time of several of these short-term liquidity measures as indicative of 'no' stress to the ignorant investing public when credit market participants were well aware of the state of reality - perhaps it is worth a glance at the current levels of Lie-bor (especially relative to EUREPO and CDS curves) to get a sense of just what could happen if the truth was ever allowed out into the public eye. M.A.D. indeed.



From Zerohedge (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/barclays-diamond-goes-mad-over-lie-borgate-details)

Report is from FT although that's a subscription site so anyone who can post something from there... we'd appreciate it.

Glass
3rd July 2012, 02:35 AM
Now Cebu_4_2 posts a thread back in March from a manipulation whistle blower and guess what is one of the things being manipulated? Libor of course

Thread here: http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59744-The-Crazy-Things-That-One-Whistleblower-Says-Are-Happening-At-JP-Morgan-Will-Blow-You&highlight=libor

lapis
3rd July 2012, 10:31 PM
Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone covered it too. But since it's the 3rd of July, I predict there will be very little coverage in the U.S. MSM.


Why is Nobody Freaking Out About the LIBOR Banking Scandal? (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/why-is-nobody-freaking-out-about-the-libor-banking-scandal-20120703)

beefsteak
4th July 2012, 01:30 AM
Lapis,
one reason there's no freaking out here is because the whole British/Crown London thing has been corrupt for generations ad nauseum. In simplist terms, my perception is--while true--this is a case of governmental corrupt he said/he said in banker speak.

The BoE is no more corrupt than the FR here, just the BoE has been at the corruption game longer, i.e., the corruption is more imbedded.

What I'd like to hear more about is the massive simultaneous bank robbery this past weekend by some governmental sponsored hackers somewhere is my guess. Lying about interest rates, currency manipulation, leverage, robo-signing, it's all related. However, bank account emptying at spiritual levels such as have just taken place have a more normalcy bias interruptive power to frighten and incite the 99% than just about anything I can think of off-hand.

Hope this perspective gives you some insight.


beefsteak

osoab
4th July 2012, 04:23 AM
FYI, Bob Diamond has decided to stay on until his replacement is made. I am waiting to hear who at the Federal Reserve gave him instructions on the manipulation of Liebor.

Comment: Bob Diamond stays but has certainly lost his shine (http://www.scotsman.com/news/comment-bob-diamond-stays-but-has-certainly-lost-his-shine-1-2388562)

Serpo
4th July 2012, 04:39 AM
I thought Diamonds where forever.......................

Glass
4th July 2012, 07:47 AM
so there is currently Testimony going on in front of the Treasury comittee

Windows Media player stream here:
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=11170&wfs=true&player=windowsmedia

Other stream options here via Zerohedge:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/live-webcast-bob-diamond-testimony-lieborgate

The only other option is Silverlight... so two useless microsoft technologies. He is sitting down Right now.

Oh and he has parliamentary privellage....... so he can spill his guts and nothing he says can be used against him.... or perhaps against others??

My post is being fiddled with?

Ok so it's a couple of rouge traders. I haven't heard that one before.

lapis
4th July 2012, 07:00 PM
Hope this perspective gives you some insight.


beefsteak

Yes and thank you. :-)

JohnQPublic
5th July 2012, 01:35 PM
LIBOR Banking Scandal Deepens; Barclays Releases Damning Email, Implicates British Government (http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/taibblog/libor-banking-scandal-deepens-barclays-releases-damning-email-implicates-british-government-20120704)

Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stones, July 5th, 2012

"...
Back to the email. Diamond’s version of the conversation with Tucker, if true, is mind-blowing. To paraphrase, Diamond said that Tucker started off by asking Diamond why other banks were reporting such low borrowing rates relative to Barclays.
Diamond apparently deadpanned that his bank’s problem was that it was reporting the real numbers, while all the other banks were lying. "I asked [Tucker] if he could relay the reality, that not all banks were providing quotes at the levels that represented real transaction," Diamond wrote.
Tucker then steered Diamond to crime using the painfully oblique manner of an English gentleman trying to engage a prostitute without using any dirty words. He told Diamond that "while he was certain [Barclays] did not need advice,” the bank did not necessarily need to report such high rates all the time. Tucker put it this way: “It did not always need to be the case that [Barclays] appeared as high as [it has] recently."


..."

Glass
5th July 2012, 05:29 PM
This is a short interview with Matt Taibbi and a former banker lawyer and some TV guy I don't know. One of those fast and furious type presenters. Nothing we don't know already but maybe this is on some network somewhere that people might watch.

http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/the-mob-learned-from-wall-street-eliot-spitzer-on-the-cartel-style-corruption-behind-libor-scam/

No embed sorry.

Horn
5th July 2012, 06:56 PM
The BoE is no more corrupt than the FR here, just the BoE has been at the corruption game longer, i.e., the corruption is more imbedded.

Certainly, and why most of those FED mortgage rates were gauged & referenced back to the Libor.

key string of threads here.

Thnx.

osoab
5th July 2012, 07:04 PM
This is a short interview with Matt Taibbi and a former banker lawyer and some TV guy I don't know. One of those fast and furious type presenters. Nothing we don't know already but maybe this is on some network somewhere that people might watch.

http://current.com/shows/viewpoint/videos/the-mob-learned-from-wall-street-eliot-spitzer-on-the-cartel-style-corruption-behind-libor-scam/

No embed sorry.

Unfortunately, Matt Tabbi has a tendency to brush off the bigger things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ustOIrp-OzU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ustOIrp-OzU

Glass
5th July 2012, 07:15 PM
yes he does. Limited hang out like a few others we know of around here. Still I think he made the comment in the interview that people have trouble getting their minds around the monumental size of the things going on.