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iOWNme
10th July 2012, 07:15 PM
This is from a BBC documentary from 2009. It is similar to the Standford Prison Experiment. Only this is using one person who has the job of asking questions and shocking the person if the answer is wrong.
The series of questions goes up, as the shock value. All the way up to 450 volts.
In the end the subject finds out they were never really shocking anyone, and then they were asked if they felt any responsibility if it would have been a person getting shocked. 3 out of 12 would not finish the test once they heard the other person screaming in pain. But the screams were prerecorded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvSNg0HZwk
iOWNme
10th July 2012, 07:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzTuz0mNlwU&feature=relmfu
iOWNme
10th July 2012, 07:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmFCoo-cU3Y&feature=relmfu
Skirnir_
10th July 2012, 07:52 PM
Yet another reason to be misanthropic...
General of Darkness
10th July 2012, 08:09 PM
First thing that comes to mind is the hooked nosed jews with big ass ears running the experiment. Second was that bitch in her 20's seemed to get pleasure from it.
Case in point from a personal experience. In our dog club I'd say that around 90% of the dogs are dobermans, we are the largest doberman club in this country and we are referred to as TONOD, to nice to your dog club. While our dobermans are actually better than the ones coming from Germany we treat them like family. They're not there to get us high points in competition, even though they do, they're more than that, they're very special to us.
But I digress. OK, so we do use electric collars in training and that's solely used for the purpose of NOT creating CONFLICT. Conflict is the dog seeing you yanking on it's pinch collar, and this creates the conflict. The dog was bad you corrected it and it knows YOU corrected them because your arm moved and I got pinched. An e-collar removes the conflict, just like in the video. The human, like the dog doesn't know who, what or where did it, but it happened. So you asked it to do something, human or dog, it gave an incorrect response and it got zapped.
What I don't like in the experiment, or the difference is that the human doing the shocking doesn't physically see the result, i.e. somebody in pain. It's the whole out of sight out of mind deal and then you've got this doctor, which most people, I would believe, TRUSTS that they've taking precautions that your not going to kill someone, so they would stop you.
HOWEVER, now that I think about it, if you remove the CONFLICT from human executing the consequence, which they've done in this experiment, we truly move into the human psyche. And I'd be interested to see the test done based on race and socioeconomic parameters. I believe it would provide some shocking results, no pun intended.
Glass
10th July 2012, 10:35 PM
That is the beauty of using drones. You can kill someone while joking with the guy sitting at the screen next to you. You can get up go get a coke, head home after work. You have exerted nothing. You have grappled no one in a life and death situation. Therefore I think the remose factor is zero. It's ideal. Everyone becomes a psycopath. Too easy.
Buddha
11th July 2012, 11:56 AM
That is the beauty of using drones. You can kill someone while joking with the guy sitting at the screen next to you. You can get up go get a coke, head home after work. You have exerted nothing. You have grappled no one in a life and death situation. Therefore I think the remose factor is zero. It's ideal. Everyone becomes a psycopath. Too easy.
If they get 5 kills in a row, they can call in a care package.
Conscience must be removed from person's a conscienceness.
They can be compleatly removed from the situation gun down a few half way around the world, or even right here. To the person in control it's like it's fiction, like it never happened. They get to go home and get a blow job and a steak while some poor farmer in Afganistan is crawling up the road with no legs and a punctured lung trying to get back to his wife and 5 children before his soul passes.
Twisted Titan
11th July 2012, 03:03 PM
tagggg
Hatha Sunahara
11th July 2012, 07:51 PM
This sets up a battle between authority and the conscience. One of them will win.
What is amazing is how strongly people are held in thrall by authority. Maybe it's all that obedience training we all get throughout our lives.
Hatha
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