Who is Gary Johnson.....

[Steal]

My decision has been to not participate in the election process this year (baring a RP surprise) but am now thinking to vote my conscious and make a statement with Gary Johnson. He might actually do all right considering a complete black out by media no backing by big money etc. The internet can make him get known if he gets enough interviews.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnF1cJ1va2E

[midnight rambler]

So you're a 'registered voter' and therefore a U.S. citizen owing allegiance to the District of Columbia?

[7th trump]

So you're a 'registered voter' and therefore a U.S. citizen owing allegiance to the District of Columbia?
You have that wrong Midnight Rambler.........to register and vote is a perk to having an allegience to the District of Columbia when you apply for a SSN.

To register to vote you must disclose your SSN.
To apply for a drivers license you must disclose your SSN.
To get married you must disclose your SSN.

Heres what the US government thinks about a SSN...............its a license!

(8) “license” includes the whole or a part of an agency permit, certificate, approval, registration, charter, membership, statutory exemption or other form of permission;

(1) “agency” means each authority of the Government of the United States, whether or not it is within or subject to review by another agency, but does not include—
(A) the Congress;
(B) the courts of the United States;
(C) the governments of the territories or possessions of the United States;
(D) the government of the District of Columbia;
or except as to the requirements of section 552 of this title—
(E) agencies composed of representatives of the parties or of representatives of organizations of the parties to the disputes determined by them;
(F) courts martial and military commissions;
(G) military authority exercised in the field in time of war or in occupied territory; or
(H) functions conferred by sections 1738, 1739, 1743, and 1744 of title 12; subchapter II of chapter 471 of title 49; or sections 1884, 1891–1902, and former section 1641 (b)(2), of title 50, appendix

Anyway Midnight, the crux of the whole game is participating in Social Security...........all your 1040 taxes are a result of volunteering into the Social Security program.

[osoab]

Gary Johnson can kiss my ass.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues


Legalize, tax, and regulate marijuana, rather than wasting money on an expensive and futile prohibition.

Eliminate needless barriers to free trade and make it easier for would-be legal immigrants to apply for work visas.

[Shami-Amourae]

Gary Johnson can kiss my ass.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/issues


There's an option for anarchy. Not voting.
:p

I'm considering doing that from now on. Not sure though.

[Libertytree]

I'm curious to know if those that are "out of the system" are really any different from those of us that are still in the system? You still have to in some degree interact within society unless you're in BFE.

[Shami-Amourae]

I'm curious to know if those that are "out of the system" are really any different from those of us that are still in the system? You still have to in some degree interact within society unless you're in BFE.

I'm not at all yet completely. But I'm less dependent on the system than I was a year ago, and a year before that, and so on. I'd have to run everything on Bitcoins and Cash to be free (Bitcoin is the only real way to buy things online without the banking system even though it currently sucks.)

[Libertytree]

I'm about off grid as it gets except for vehicle ins and online ordering but I'm a voter and have a SS#, driver lisc, and a cell phone (registered to someone else : )

My question is, how are folks that have none of these any better off than me? Without living in the woods totally self sufficient? That's obviously NOT the case because they are posting on the internet!

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

You guys always talk about voting like it is contracting with the federal government.

I recently passed a "register to vote" booth, so I actually sat down and read the form.

The form has you "affirm under penalty of law that you are a citizen of the united states."

I asked the woman how I could vote if I was not a citizen of the united states, but a citizen of the great state of california. She told me that automatically made me a citizen of the US and I told her it did not. She had no idea what I was talking about and asked me to leave.



But surely "original jurisdiction voting" must exist. How does one access it?

[midnight rambler]

The Republic is the house that no one lives in.

IMO, if you participate in the 'system' as it's currently set up then you're participating in the Federal corporation, not the Republic. See 28 USC 3002(15)(a).

Also, a legal fiction is the head (CEO/COO/whatever) of the Federal corporation - https://creditreports.dnb.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/IballValidationCmd?storeId=11154&catalogId=71154&productId=0&searchType=BSF&state=DC&searchPerform=true&hiddenSessionId=1773131054&busName=obama&country=US#goTop


But surely "original jurisdiction voting" must exist. How does one access it?

Good question. Where's the de jure government? Does it currently exist?