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Serpo
11th August 2012, 05:24 PM
RED ALERT: It's Open Season on All Customer Funds
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 10, AD 2012 3:33 PM MST


The NFA in collusion with the banksters, government and judiciary have achieved their goal. The entire concept of "customer segregated funds" is officially, completely, legally dead.

Guys, it is OVER. I know that many of you are still cowering in normalcy bias, unable to deal with reality, unable to face the world as it is, but you have GOT to snap out of it. The marketplace is DESTROYED. You CANNOT be in these markets. All legal protections are now officially gone.

Do you remember how I told you about the Ponzi scheme that imploded in 2007 called "Sentinel Management Group" that stole over $500 million in customer funds? The NFA was the auditing regulator of Sentinel, and the NFA admitted after the Sentinel Ponzi imploded that they signed off on their audits even though the NFA claimed not fully understanding Sentinel's books or accounting methods. In other words, the NFA didn't really audit Sentinel at all - they just PRETENDED to audit them, drew up some forms, had some robosigners sign off, and then just hoped that when the shit hit the fan, everyone in the industry would be so terrified of the NFA that no one would hold the NFA accountable for their criminal malfeasance - or even talk about it.

Sentinel took customer segregated money and fraudulently used it as the collateral on a loan from Bank of New York Mellon for $312 million to fund their own in-house proprietary trading operations. When the Sentinel Ponzi collapsed, BNYM sued to go to the front of the line of creditors - ahead of the customers of Sentinel whose money was fraudulently used as collateral, which has now been "linguistically sanitized" into the word "hypothecated".

The federal appeals court ruled yesterday that not only does BNYM stay at the front of the line, but that using customer segregated funds as collateral is NOT a crime, and that co-mingling customer segregated funds with proprietary funds is NOT fraud.

Here is the Reuters piece.

Read this quote from the ruling, which is, in essence, the entire financial market paradigm being guillotined:

That Sentinel failed to keep client funds properly segregated is not, on its own, sufficient to rule as a matter of law that Sentinel acted ‘with actual intent to hinder, delay, or defraud' its customers.

U.S. Circuit Judge John D. Tinder

What this means is that even if Jon Corzine is somehow dragged into court by private citizens, because you know damn good and well that the Justice Department will never, ever touch him, Corzine now has a legal precedent, likely from a bribed or otherwise coerced Federal Appeals Court, explicitly stating that an FCM can use customer deposits to pay its debts, and that the customers themselves are subjugated and have basically no legal right to their own monies, no matter what the law says, or what legal assurances, claims or guarantees are made to that customer about their funds held with an FCM or any other brokerage or depository institution. The "secured" party at the front of the line will always be the mega-bank who made the fraudulent loan using the stolen customer funds as collateral.

In other words, all customer funds in the United States are now the legal property of JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, BNYM, or whichever megabank is the counterparty on the loans the FCM or depository institution takes out in order to fund its mega-levered proprietary in-house trading desks.

For the love of God, I don't know what more there could possibly be to say to snap you people out of your normalcy bias trance. You have GOT to get ALL MONIES out of the financial system NOW. This ruling sets precedence for every depository institution, not just futures brokerages. It is now legal in the United States for any financial institution to steal customer funds, borrow money against those funds for the uber-levered proprietary trading use of the financial institution, and the customers have ZERO CLAIM TO THEIR OWN FUNDS once they are in the custody of the financial institution.

The court has ruled that once your money passes out of your PHYSICAL POSSESSION, and I mean PHYSICAL possession, it is no longer yours, and you have no legal claim or legal recourse to it when it is stolen. This includes BANK ACCOUNTS. Money in a bank is in the possession of the BANK, not you. Do you comprehend this? The entire system is utterly devoid of any integrity or genuine security and is breaking down catastophically before our very eyes. You HAVE to comprehend that your money sitting in an account is no longer legally yours. You have to force your brain to process and comprehend this, no matter how incomprehensible it may seem. IT IS OVER. This is Marxist hell. We have arrived.

This ruling and precedent will be used by every brokerage, every bank, every insurance company and every pension fund to deny you your money when the financial system finally collapses, be it on Monday, or be it two years from now.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

You have GOT to GET OUT.

And all of this goes straight back to the criminal mafia that is the National Futures Association, and the fact that they have not actually been auditing those firms who were in the "cosa nostra", and allowing Ponzi schemes to operate with full bureaucratic protection for decades. Sentinel. PFG Best. The legal precedent enabling this protection racket and blatant fraud and thievery is fully in force, and what Corzine did at MF Global is now legally PROTECTED.

This is ecomonic treason.

Treason is a capital offense, meaning that the death penalty is fully justified, warranted and on the table, should the day ever come when a Second American Republic is established, and with it the re-establishment of the rule of law and justice in this land.

http://barnhardt.biz/

General of Darkness
11th August 2012, 06:19 PM
I start a new job on Monday, how should I ask to be paid, in silver?

beefsteak
11th August 2012, 07:13 PM
I start a new job on Monday, how should I ask to be paid, in silver?

Ask to be paid promptly and that the checks are cashable.

Don't tip your hand as to your politics, lack of religious affiliation nor stacker views.

Also, would be wise to be forewarned of the requisite "everybody's donating to so what can we put you down for (United Way) so that we can keep our stellar 100% employee contribution support statistic intact." Don't be embarrassed at only forking over $5 a check to the rip off charity du jour.

Then there are those union dues, paid parking monthly expense deducts, life & health insurance deduct, bosses birthday chip-in pool, PLUS.....
.......requisite bowling alley membership shoe deposit deduct...and whatever else they can think of to "help you feel like you belong."

PS....the S/S deduct (currently 4.2%) returns to 6.2%, Jan 1, 2013. You'll be lucky to take home 50c of each fiat $ you "earn."

HAPPY HAPPY!!!!:)**


beefsteak

Twisted Titan
12th August 2012, 04:56 AM
Sentinel took customer segregated money and fraudulently used it as the collateral on a loan from Bank of New York Mellon for $312 million to fund their own in-house proprietary trading operations. When the Sentinel Ponzi collapsed, BNYM sued to go to the front of the line of creditors - ahead of the customers of Sentinel whose money was fraudulently used as collateral, which has now been "linguistically sanitized" into the word "hypothecated".

The federal appeals court ruled yesterday that not only does BNYM stay at the front of the line, but that using customer segregated funds as collateral is NOT a crime, and that co-mingling customer segregated funds with proprietary funds is NOT fraud.


That is EXACTLY how zionists move around.........they have a audacity that is beyond reproach unless you fasten a roap about their necks and find the tallest tree in the county.

I love how AB gracefully dances around that big bagel in the room and misdirects your attention.

Like they always do.

Skirnir_
12th August 2012, 06:48 AM
It is amusing to see people prattling over what is de-jure. The law says XYZ, and if I had four wheels, I would be a wagon. Both are trivial; only de-facto matters.

palani
12th August 2012, 07:08 AM
... only de-facto matters.
And that is why you must ask permission.

PlatinumBlonde
12th August 2012, 07:50 AM
Well, a wise man once said--if you don't hold it, you don't own it..

Blink
12th August 2012, 08:05 AM
Well, a wise man once said--if you don't hold it, you don't own it..

Pretty much it. If you haven't figured it out by now, oh well. I haven't had anything in the markets since 2007 (got most out before the crash) and haven't been back since. Minimum cash in bank (withdraw every payday). Just enough to cover automatic bills and any emergency. Banks, IMO, provide no advantage in my life (nor probably ever did) and I refuse to be trapped by their lies and deceptions when the tank comes. Only wish I had known this sh*t a decade or so earlier...............

7th trump
12th August 2012, 08:41 AM
And that is why you must ask permission.
De-facto.....huh Palani?

In another thread you advocate that facts are "evil".

Really ...what kind of game are you playing?

Skirnir_
12th August 2012, 08:45 AM
De-facto.....huh Palani?

In another thread you advocate that facts are "evil".

Really ...what kind of game are you playing?

Confucius would refer to him as 'Paloony' because of 正名 (rectification of names).

skidmark
12th August 2012, 10:26 AM
Is Antimuslim Annie not too bright or what? She is outraged by the indecent human filth that sent this email:





Fanmail! (Extreme Language Warning)
Posted by Ann Barnhardt - August 11, AD 2012 3:37 PM MST
(NOTE: I don't redact this stuff because we all need to be reminded from time to time of the profound evil that walks among us. Most of you reading this move in circles of decent human beings, but you need to understand that decent human beings are the minority in this culture. People like this guy are EVERYWHERE, and they WALK AMONG US. What do you think a man like this would be capable of if he was given a uniform and the license to kill by the Marxist oligarchy?)

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If it wasn't for the Italian last name, you would almost think that this chap must be a direct descendant of John Keats himself:

Ann you talk about the destruction of the west and Christianity and you blame the muslims I will not use niceness on you You are a fake phony jew sucking twat who is covering for the satanic jews. you rail about satanic commies who the fuck you think invented it. the jews who Jesus said were satans children in John 8:44 so I say you are another phony jew fuck or sucking jew ass Fuck you ann and fuck your fucking jew masters

Mario Leli
Warwick, New York
mleli@warwick.net

Well, obviously. If ever there was anything in this world that could be described as "obvious", it would be that I am OBVIOUSLY in someone's pocket. Yep. Ol' sockpuppet Ann. I never make a move or write a single word until I get marching orders and the go-ahead from my masters. Eyeroll.

And I can only hope and pray that someday I attain the moral rectitude and friendship with Christ that Mario Leli of Warwick, NY has obviously attained. I must be on the right track, as I already use profanity, albeit not with the same class and advanced vocabulary as Mario Leli of Warwick, NY.

Especially for Mario Leli of Warwick, NY, here is some Jew music, composed, sung and played by a Jew. The piano is probably a Steinway, too.

Gotta love Sedaka.

http://barnhardt.biz/

gunDriller
12th August 2012, 11:49 AM
Ann is a hoot.

some of her stuff is so right on.

some of it is so raving lunatic, spewing official conspiracy theories.

she's like a female version of Karl Denninger - who is single.

i wouldn't be surprised if they hook up.

skidmark
12th August 2012, 12:33 PM
I wonder if Annie knows Marx was a joo?

palani
12th August 2012, 06:15 PM
De-facto.....huh Palani?

Check your reading comprehension skills here:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fact&allowed_in_frame=0

Your sarcasm doesn't improve your chances of winning a discussion.

palani
12th August 2012, 06:16 PM
Confucius would refer to him as 'Paloony' because of 正名 (rectification of names).
And your adulteration of usernames can only be called "dishonor".

7th trump
12th August 2012, 07:38 PM
Check your reading comprehension skills here:

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=fact&allowed_in_frame=0

Your sarcasm doesn't improve your chances of winning a discussion.
My reading comprehension is quite well grasshopper.
However, you better check your reading comprehension skills.
I even beleive I said at one point in time in that other thread you're having a hard time determining the "subject" from the "object" or the "object" from the "subject".
Since when does anyone use the etomology (one of many) to the word "fact" from the 1500's (evil deed) which has a complete different meaning from todays world (get your truth together)?
Just how difficult is it for you to stay on the same disscusional level as everyone else without taking a 90 degree 80 mph turn into a ditch?
And you have the balls to point the dishonor finger at another huh?

In my 44 yrs on earth I've come to realize 80% of the time when someone accuses me of something, with little investigation, you can find the accuser is actually guitly party.

Does your ego control you that much Palani?

palani
12th August 2012, 08:13 PM
My reading comprehension is quite well grasshopper.
However, you better check your reading comprehension skills.
I even beleive I said at one point in time in that other thread you're having a hard time determining the "subject" from the "object" or the "object" from the "subject".
Since when does anyone use the etomology (one of many) to the word "fact" from the 1500's (evil deed) which has a complete different meaning from todays world (get your truth together)?
Just how difficult is it for you to stay on the same disscusional level as everyone else without taking a 90 degree 80 mph turn into a ditch?
And you have the balls to point the dishonor finger at another huh?

In my 44 yrs on earth I've come to realize 80% of the time when someone accuses me of something, with little investigation, you can find the accuser is actually guitly party.

Does your ego control you that much Palani?

Babble

7th trump
12th August 2012, 08:21 PM
Babble
Chuckling to myself..........

palani
12th August 2012, 08:25 PM
Chuckling to myself..........

Hysteria

7th trump
13th August 2012, 06:33 AM
Hysteria
An exellent album released in 1987 by Def Leopard!

palani
13th August 2012, 06:44 AM
An exellent album released in 1987 by Def Leopard!
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hysterical&allowed_in_frame=0
Originally defined as a neurotic condition peculiar to women and thought to be caused by a dysfunction of the uterus. Meaning "very funny" (by 1939) is from the notion of uncontrollable fits of laughter.

gunDriller
13th August 2012, 01:50 PM
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hysterical&allowed_in_frame=0
Originally defined as a neurotic condition peculiar to women and thought to be caused by a dysfunction of the uterus. Meaning "very funny" (by 1939) is from the notion of uncontrollable fits of laughter.

a sterling example of Thread Drift.

not complaining though, i like thread drift.

Twisted Titan
13th August 2012, 02:16 PM
I wonder if Annie knows Marx was a joo?

Of course she does but her job is to skate figure 8 around those issues and have you demonizing the "Germanic Death Cults"


Everybody knows its the Arabs that Control Hollywood and Wallstreet

palani
13th August 2012, 02:33 PM
a sterling example of Thread Drift.
I have always been amazed at the ability of people to detect a thread drift. For example, why wouldn't post number 2 qualify?


I start a new job on Monday, how should I ask to be paid, in silver?

Or post number 5


It is amusing to see people prattling over what is de-jure.

Where the topic of "de-jure" was first introduced?

PatColo
13th August 2012, 06:22 PM
seems Barnhart was sort of a flash in the pan a couple years ago now. There were a couple threads here on her & her youtubes full of dire financial warnings, mixed with fire/brimstone over "JUDEO"-Christianity, and the threat from scary filthy moozlems. I like to believe that the latter pitch prevented her from getting any real traction among more truthy (joo-wise) truthers. She was easy on the eyes which helped her get whatever temp interest she got.

I imagine AJ had her on the show more than once? :D

Shami-Amourae
13th August 2012, 06:27 PM
She just had an interview:
http://traffic.libsyn.com/kerrylutz/Ann_Barnhardt_08-13-2012.mp3

Shami-Amourae
14th August 2012, 11:30 AM
More:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwKGNO59pqA

Skirnir_
14th August 2012, 11:40 AM
And your adulteration of usernames can only be called "dishonor".
Oh my, did my sharp tongue pierce your hymen?


mid-13c., from O.Fr. deshonorer (12c.), from L.L. dishonorare (reformed from classical L. dehonestare), from dis- "opposite of" (see dis-) + honorare (see honor). Related: Dishonored; dishonoring.


c.1200, "glory, renown, fame earned," from Anglo-Fr. honour, O.Fr. honor (Mod.Fr. honneur), from L. honorem (nom. honos, later honor) "honor, dignity, office, reputation," of unknown origin. Till 17c., honour and honor were equally frequent; the former now preferred in England, the latter in U.S. by influence of Noah Webster's spelling reforms. Meaning "a woman's chastity" first attested late 14c. Honors "distinction in scholarship" attested by 1782. Honor roll in the scholastic sense attested by 1872. To do the honors (1650s) originally meant the customary civilities and courtesies at a public entertainment, etc.

sirgonzo420
14th August 2012, 11:43 AM
Oh my, did my sharp tongue pierce your hymen?

Oh another cunning linguist!

palani
14th August 2012, 12:40 PM
Oh my, did my sharp tongue pierce your hymen?

Not from this distance although you probably punctured your own.

Study at your leisure but I assure you nothing below will mean anything to you.



http://i45.tinypic.com/2mi2el2.jpg

skidmark
15th August 2012, 07:31 AM
Anti-Muslum Ann never mentions her fine of $100,000 when she brags of her integrity.

The following issues were presented to and decided by the undersigned arbitrators: constructive fraud, fraud and deceit, misrepresentations and omissions of material facts, excessive trading, failure to follow instructions, aiding and abetting, failure to supervise, breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty, violation of NFA Compliance Rules 2-2, 2-4, 2-9 and 2-29, violation of Sections 2a(1)(b), 4b, 4c(b) and 13a of the Commodity Exchange Act, violation of CFTC Regulations 33.10, and 166.3, Claimant's request for punitive damages, interest and costs and Respondents' request for attorney's fees.

We, the Arbitrators appointed to hear and decide this matter in accordance with the Code of Arbitration of National Futures Association, have determined that the following relief shall be granted:

Barnhardt Capital Management and Ann E. Barnhardt are jointly and severally liable for the following award and shall pay to Moiola Brothers Cattle Feeders, Ltd.:

All other relief requested is hereby denied. Each party shall bear its own costs and fees as incurred.



http://www.nfa.futures.org/basicnet/Arbitration.aspx?entityid=0282801&case=09ARB00009