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Cebu_4_2
17th August 2012, 11:21 AM
This video was taken 8.16.12 around 7:30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLpChd1-8Q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player#) pm. This is the video of a fellow patriot, Brandon J Raub, being "arrested" and taken away by Chesterfield County Virginia Police Department. They showed up inquiring his postings on facebook, and then they just took him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLpChd1-8Q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLpChd1-8Q4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

gunDriller
17th August 2012, 11:45 AM
http://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub?sk=wall

Cebu_4_2
17th August 2012, 11:48 AM
Sounds like a member here, this is not good.

vacuum
17th August 2012, 11:56 AM
Anyone know what he posted?

Cebu_4_2
17th August 2012, 12:03 PM
On his facebook page it looks like the shit we post every day.

skidmark
17th August 2012, 12:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVWA_u6Uk_Q


here you go, interview about him with his mom

Serpo
17th August 2012, 01:41 PM
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/FB?link=MW_story_quote

CIA ................after Facebook Inc on market watch

Serpo
17th August 2012, 01:44 PM
On his facebook page it looks like the shit we post every day.

What you don't think we should all be locked up.......;D

Gaillo
17th August 2012, 01:52 PM
Sooo.... which of us is missing? ???

gunDriller
17th August 2012, 01:54 PM
i'm wondering if he challenged the cops ... didn't watch the Youtube yet.

they (the cops) like "Yes Sir, No Sir" responses.


unless it's a woman cop.

iOWNme
17th August 2012, 03:23 PM
I didnt know he was a contributor of Dont Tread On Me......

http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=21770

This guy is a Christian and ex Marine!

According to his mom, they took his from his house straight to a psychiatric ward.......These criminals bypass Due Process like it nothing. His mom was called by the Police and told he assaulted officers, and resisted arrest......After they left his home. They also said he was making 'Terroristic Threats' online. He was handcuffed and put into the back of a patrol car without his rights being read to him.

BE AWARE GSUS'ers. All they need to do is take everything you have posted, arrest you, and later set you up for anything they want. All 'evidence' they have will point to your being a domestic terrorist. Lenin would be proud....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVWA_u6Uk_Q&feature=g-all-u


Here are some of his writings on DTOM....

Here are the 5 articles from Brandon Raub on the Dont-Tread-On.Me (http://dont-tread-on.me) site.
Property, Liberty, Jesus, and Our Country (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=8988)
What God Tried To Do (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=9482)
Richmond Liberty March (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=9713)
Economics 101 (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=10437)
The Richmond Liberty Movement (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=10447)

Shami-Amourae
17th August 2012, 04:22 PM
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brandon-raub/39/948/401



Brandon Raub's Summary


I am a small Business Owner through Numis Network. Numis Network is a MLM or Multi Level Marketing Company that sells silver and operates around a program called the 'Silver Coin of the Month.' I sell silver directly, and offer the opportunity for individuals to create a business for themselves.

His Silver business:
https://www.numisnetwork.com/bjraub

gunDriller
17th August 2012, 04:36 PM
i don't see anything in his posts that is 'beyond' what we discuss here.

what pieces of the puzzle are we not seeing ?


did the DHS declare today "Arrest a Patriot" day ?

JohnQPublic
17th August 2012, 04:58 PM
...
The Richmond Liberty Movement (http://dont-tread-on.me/?p=10447)

Interesting comment from Brandon:

Aeneas8 November 18, 2011 at 2:45 am · Reply
I’m unable to locate the link you mention on Facebook. Maybe you can just supply the link? Thx.


Brandon Raub November 18, 2011 at 12:05 pm · Reply
No lol Facebook has been tampering with the group for some time.

Brandon Raub November 21, 2011 at 8:41 pm · Reply
I am using their own system against them.

JohnQPublic
17th August 2012, 05:05 PM
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brandon-raub/39/948/401

There is no Google cache for one of his listed "personal sites":

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=webcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fbrandonjraub.in fo&oq=webcache.googleusercontent.com%2Fbrandonjraub.i nfo&gs_l=serp.3...25407.25772.0.25950.2.2.0.0.0.0.216. 216.2-1.1.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.4OvMoVvlDUs&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=39acbf6a96bcb6ab&biw=1280&bih=915

Maybe he never created it, or...

Serpo
17th August 2012, 09:25 PM
Wasn't he sent to a nut house where they have cupboards full of straight jackets and medication,aka one flew over the cook coos nest.

Horn
17th August 2012, 10:03 PM
did the DHS declare today "Arrest a Patriot" day ?

No, They are complicit with terrorists seeking civil war in the U.S.

Horn
17th August 2012, 10:07 PM
Brandon J Raub (http://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub)
Sharpen up my axe; I'm here to sever heads.

midnight rambler
18th August 2012, 01:51 AM
Brandon J Raub (http://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub)


Sharpen up my axe; I'm here to sever heads.




Gotta always remember there are 'authorities' out there with absolutely no sense of humor or perspective whatsoever.

Twisted Titan
18th August 2012, 05:34 AM
Always see how quick they make the link between you are being a nutcase?

It could have been anyone of us.

Its not going to end well for this kid......depending on how hard he fights he will probally get edgar steeled.

I hope the best for him

Cebu_4_2
18th August 2012, 05:44 AM
Always see how quick they make the link between you are being a nutcase?

It could have been anyone of us.

Its not going to end well for this kid......depending on how hard he fights he will probally get edgar steeled.

I hope the best for him

He is in a mental institution where they play God with all sorts of drugs, you do remember the so called "Batman Killer" in colorado or has that slipped your mind?

Golden
18th August 2012, 05:45 AM
Facebook and the Arrest of B. J. Raub, Who is Delusional

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn_mSsBLK1c
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn_mSsBLK1c
Published on Aug 18, 2012 by wepollock
My anti-Facebook presentation in May of this year was repulsive to most viewers. The short-on-fact skinny is that Raub is a victim having been swept away for pre-crime. I see delusional thinking in his Internet postings. I am sure, this presentation will be repulsive to those stewing in ignorance of self-delusion because they have/cannot think things out logically or responsibly. The harder you hold onto your bias (and blame passing) the more delusional you are. You are not awake unless you are objective (and acknowledge) the nefarious history of the United States and you take ownership and personal responsibility for our current condition. If you believe in American Exceptionalism, conspiracies, truth movements, confuse news with commentary and/or are passing blame, you are part of a near-future problem because you are facilitating a worse-kind of fascism.

Skirnir_
18th August 2012, 07:26 AM
They are likely trying to establish a precedent for the vaguest of statements in order to get the camel's nose in the tent.

gunDriller
18th August 2012, 07:44 AM
Brandon J Raub

Sharpen up my axe; I'm here to sever heads.


Brandon J Raub

Do you know why the American people will win the civil war that is coming? Because we are Americans.


Brandon J Raub

Do you know what the secret of the Marine Corps is? Tell people they are Heroes and they will act it out.


Brandon J Raub

The people responsible for posioning the America people from the sky will be held accountable. And there is going to be justice.


Brandon J Raub

Also, 911 was an inside job


Brandon J Raub

Dear Friends,

I know many of you think I'm going crazy, and are wondering just why I have been posting the things I have been posting. I don't have the energy to explain. Just know that a new beginning is coming.


Brandon J Raub

Dear Friends in the Military,

The time for choosing has come. Will you continue to ignore the obvious lie of 911 or will you stand and fight for your people?


Brandon J Raub

I'm starting the Revolution. I'm done waiting.


from his Facebook Wall. a combination of threats and honesty about 9-11 from a US military veteran.

and they take him, hold him without formal charges.

almost as if it was an NDAA training session.


(or maybe Hollywood wants material for Rambo 6 1/2 ?)


based on what he's posted, if i was his neighbor, the only way i'd feel threatened by him is the possibility of stray bullets from a confrontation between Brandon & the US gov.

maybe THAT's what they're 'protecting us from' ? /sarc

Libertytree
18th August 2012, 07:58 AM
Looks like the NDAA in full blown action to me.

BrewTech
18th August 2012, 07:59 AM
Looks like the NDAA in full blown action to me.

No due process, no formal charges, they just come and take yo ass away.

Yup, that's what it looks like to me, too.

Shami-Amourae
18th August 2012, 08:16 AM
I don't know how relevant this is, but something similar happened to David Sarti (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?58851-Doomsday-Prepper-Declared-Mental-Defective%E2%80%A6-Government-confiscates-his-Guns) (dragging him off to the looney bin for saying something):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5hrkZglxvc

Libertytree
18th August 2012, 08:38 AM
Make no mistake about it, anyone of us can be poofed at any time of they choose to do it. It could be one at a time or all at the same time. This isn't a warning that the police state is coming, it's a statement that it's already here.

gunDriller
18th August 2012, 09:36 AM
Make no mistake about it, anyone of us can be poofed at any time of they choose to do it. It could be one at a time or all at the same time. This isn't a warning that the police state is coming, it's a statement that it's already here.

yes, it is.

but, the Jew-S gov. (it would seem in-accurate to refer to this gov. as the "US gov.") still has limited resources. they have to deal with the fact that Brandon, as a Marine, made an Oath to uphold the Constitution - the same Oath that many US gov. employees make. many US gov. employees empathize/ sympathize with the Brandon's of this world - hence the organization Oath-keepers (granted they banned me for talking about the USS Liberty or 9-11 - i forget - but they still make some semblance of taking the Constitution seriously.)

though Brandon has military training.


some of the pieces of the puzzle that are relevant that Brandon's persecutors have, that we lack -
* his firearms arsenal. since the US gov. has this nasty habit of requiring guns to be registered in order to be legal, Brandon may officially have a considerable arsenal.
* recent purchases - firearms, explosives, munitions accessories.
* disclosures to 'friends' regarding imminent plans for an armed confrontation. perhaps the FBI sent a female agent to sweet-talk Brandon at his local favorite bar.


another aspect of Brandon's situation is that he lives in a small home - easily surrounded by a multitude of SWAT teams.

persons with some acreage are at liberty to create a 'walled compound' effect. if a SWAT team representing the US gov comes to the gate, they can talk on the intercom.

if they breach the wall, and the home-owner is innocent/ has done nothing immoral, the home-owner has the right to self-defense.

and, unless a helicopter gunship is called in, a temporary tactical advantage, as SWAT Team invaders cross open ground in abuse of the Home-owner's rights.


i think in some cases, when the home-owner defending their home is clearly a peaceful & good neighbor, if the case ever gets to jury trial, it will be tough going for the SWAT team's legal team. most person's would defend the home defense as justified.

i think this sometimes affects the US police state's actions in these confrontations. if they know they can't win reasonably in court, they might make sure there is no trial by killing the home-owner - or taking a traitor's refuge in the NDAA.

Skirnir_
18th August 2012, 09:39 AM
Even worse - what is to prevent all of the above from being fabricated? They play for the same team, after all. If they can fabricate audio records and prohibit the defence from calling experts, then they can just as easily fabricate paper records.

midnight rambler
18th August 2012, 10:25 AM
Even worse - what is to prevent all of the above from being fabricated? They play for the same team, after all. If they can fabricate audio records and prohibit the defence from calling experts, then they can just as easily fabricate paper records.

And just as a FB page can be scrubbed, it can also be 'amended' to suit an agenda.

midnight rambler
18th August 2012, 10:32 AM
Brandon J Raub

I'm starting the Revolution. I'm done waiting.

I'm sure this had a lot to do with it.

Like I tell folks all the time: Ownership* of EBRs (with a 'lifetime supply' of ammo) is all about the mere presence of implied force which inhibits evil, which is why everyone should own one (with a minimum of 5k rounds). It's NOT about going out and 'starting' something.

*of course YMMV lol

Twisted Titan
18th August 2012, 11:24 AM
Even worse - what is to prevent all of the above from being fabricated? They play for the same team, after all. If they can fabricate audio records and prohibit the defence from calling experts, then they can just as easily fabricate paper records.


And from.some.hidey hole none of us know about the faint voice of edgar steele can be heard saying:


Quoted for Truth.

Gaillo
18th August 2012, 11:26 AM
"I'm starting the Revolution. I'm done waiting."

What a complete and utter dumbass!

Given the current state of this political environment, I'd FULLY expect to be rounded up/shot by SWAT were I to post something like that on a public server.

Cebu_4_2
18th August 2012, 11:47 AM
What a complete and utter dumbass!

Given the current state of this political environment, I'd FULLY expect to be rounded up/shot by SWAT were I to post something like that on a public server.

That's why I stay quiet, don't want any attention that is not deserved. "Just posting facts mam."

Gaillo
18th August 2012, 11:49 AM
That's why I stay quiet, don't want any attention that is not deserved. "Just posting facts mam."

Ain't living in a country with free speech great? ::)

Twisted Titan
18th August 2012, 11:53 AM
What a complete and utter dumbass!

Given the current state of this political environment, I'd FULLY expect to be rounded up/shot by SWAT were I to post something like that on a public server.



And if you,me or anyone else for that matter got black bagged somebody could comb through our posts and make the EXACT same statement.

We don't need to throw the man under a bus.


The best we can do is hope for a safe return and we can learn from his errors

Gaillo
18th August 2012, 11:57 AM
And if you,me or anyone else for that matter got black bagged somebody could comb through our posts and make the EXACT same statement.

We don't need to throw the man under a bus. The best we can do.is hope for a safe return and we can learn from his errors

I hear ya, man... but if they were to do the same to you or I, they would have to FABRICATE the post... or take something WAY out of context. Neither of us is stupid enough to post something like that of our own free will.

Libertytree
18th August 2012, 12:03 PM
And if you,me or anyone else for that matter got black bagged somebody could comb through our posts and make the EXACT same statement.

We don't need to throw the man under a bus. The best we can do.is hope for a safe return and we can learn from his errors

I agree. We've all said some "by other peoples standards" radical things but let's be realistic, if they didn't exist they would be manufactured to justify whatever actions they undertook. All this crap is to reinforce keeping America safe from home grown terrorists, ie all of us that aren't sheep.

Libertytree
18th August 2012, 12:08 PM
I hear ya, man... but if they were to do the same to you or I, they would have to FABRICATE the post... or take something WAY out of context. Neither of us is stupid enough to post something like that of our own free will.

IDK..... I know I've posted things that I'm sure could have the same results and likely even posting in the same thread or giving a "thanks/(agreeing)" is tantamount to being conscrued as ominous.

midnight rambler
18th August 2012, 12:13 PM
Recently here locally a woman called up the NBC teevee affiliate complaining that a local movie theater (chain) demanded to inspect the contents of her purse AFTER having purchased a ticked and PRIOR to entering the auditorium. She refused on the grounds of right to privacy and the on the air interview she actually asserted, "There was NO probable cause to conduct a search - NONE." Bravo to this courageous woman for her standing up for herself and asserting her rights, however just after that interview was posted they had a parade of over half a dozen people (out in public, on the street, etc.) who had no problem whatsoever about "being kept safe...if you have nothing to hide then you shouldn't feel a need to object to someone searching your purse." Very nice bit of social engineering.

Twisted Titan
18th August 2012, 12:17 PM
I really feel for the fellow because their was a time when I was just as "bad"

I remember about every 4th post I put up on GIM was a CLICK ! CLICK ! or some offshoot of that. I was all about chest thumping

I also remember too well when the black baggers came to my door to threaten me and my family and I had to eat the verbal abuse.


Thank God they where lazy because If they ever made the connection between my cache and my online persona my @$$ would have been toast.


I don't like to dwell on just how close I was to getting my card pulled but stuff like this really brings it back quite vividly.


I just feel for the man and we all need to do our best to prepare in the interim

vacuum
18th August 2012, 12:26 PM
No due process, no formal charges, they just come and take yo ass away.

Yup, that's what it looks like to me, too.

Nope, not if he's going to a mental institution. It's always been such that if a doctor deems you to be a threat to yourself or others, then can put you in a mental institution against your will and forcibly make you take drugs. They can keep you there until you are deemed no longer a threat to yourself or others.

Gaillo
18th August 2012, 12:31 PM
Nope, not if he's going to a mental institution. It's always been such that if a doctor deems you to be a threat to yourself or others, then can put you in a mental institution against your will and forcibly make you take drugs. They can keep you there until you are deemed no longer a threat to yourself or others.

Nice little circumvention of 5th amendment due process, and the 4th amendment unreasonable seizure clause.

steel_ag
18th August 2012, 04:01 PM
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/rss74235.xml

Episode 104

Horn
18th August 2012, 07:10 PM
Would Sun Tzu approve of this posturing?

http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/372378_1552990412_1520172600_n.jpg

LuckyStrike
18th August 2012, 08:52 PM
So this begs the question, go peaceably into the arms of the marxist government? Or do not?

It's too early to tell IMO, but the answer may lie in Gulag Archipelago

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . ."
The Gulag Archipelago -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

midnight rambler
18th August 2012, 08:57 PM
So this begs the question, go peaceably into the arms of the marxist government? Or do not?

It's too early to tell IMO, but the answer may lie in Gulag Archipelago

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? . . ."
The Gulag Archipelago -- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

I get the impression that this fellow got himself under the microscope by posting what he did (e.g. his post about unilaterally starting some revolution).

milehi
18th August 2012, 09:11 PM
" When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk" - Tuco

LuckyStrike
18th August 2012, 10:15 PM
I get the impression that this fellow got himself under the microscope by posting what he did (e.g. his post about unilaterally starting some revolution).

I agree, I don't think people are being rounded up en masse so the time for this sort of action is down the road (probably)

That being said look at the people in this anti government movement (for lack of a better term) who are gone now for one reason or another Edgar Steele, Curt Maynard, JT Ready, the guy in the OP, surely I'm leaving a bunch out but these are just what come to mind at 1am. At least the first 3 were big name people surely there are quite a few more that we just don't hear about because they aren't prominent enough. Out of a nation of 300 million this is small potatoes but out of a movement of just a few million the % are much greater. As I see it they are systematically taking out threats, if you pose a big enough threat you are bought or killed, apparently the aforementioned couldn't be bought.

Shami-Amourae
19th August 2012, 03:38 AM
Looks like the story is going mainstream:
http://www.businessinsider.com/brandon-raub-marine-911-detained-2012-8

Great comments too.

For some reason I haven't heard Alex Jones talk about it, which I find odd.

Golden
19th August 2012, 04:26 AM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOIwNbhHQI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOIwNbhHQI
Published on Aug 18, 2012 by TruthNeverTold
Here I look through Brandon's Depression Stage of the Awakening.

I hope I can do a call with Brandon when he gets out and help him get to the Acceptance Stage.

Our prayers are with him and his family.

Brandon Raub's FaceBook Posts that Lead to His Arrest

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJuKlFuotA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJuKlFuotA
Published on Aug 18, 2012 by TruthNeverTold
Here I look at the actual FaceBook posts that lead to his arrest.

Hatha Sunahara
19th August 2012, 03:00 PM
In the Soviet Union they sent their dissidents to psychiatric hospitals.

Yes, we have 1st Amendment rights to express our opinions. Yet the constitution apparently does not prohibit the government from calling anyone a terrorist and acting on that label without restraint. The problem we have, legally, is that there is no objective definition of terrorism. Apparently it is whatever the government says it is. Without an objective definition for terrorism, we are unable to defend ourselves from such charges. Plus, it is a loaded term. It is a way of atomizing the population. If they call you a terrorist, anyone who defends you is also a terrorist by association. What the government is practicing is 'psychopolitics'. That is something that was developed and perfected in the Soviet Union. We need to insist they write down a definition of 'terrorism' or 'terrorist', It is for our own protection. Any refusal or foot dragging by any of the branches of government would be and admission that they have suspended the rule of law.

Recently, I saw on the local evening news a story about several houses being raided by the FBI in the local area. No one was arrested, but the cops, who showed with assault rifles and body armor and a battering ram spent some time searching and hauled off boxes of 'evidence'. They gave no reason for the raids, and said nothing about what they were looking for. 4 houses were raided. There was a story about it in the local newspaper, but since I do not read it, I was totally in the dark until just today. I read the article here:

http://rense.com/general95/silenc.html

The cops can issue a 'National Security Letter' NSL, which is effectively a gag order not to talk about anything the police have done. Try to think back about the 87 year old Librarian who got one of these when asked for information about who borrowed which books. She showed it to her 76 year old assistant, and was arrested as a terrorist.

What I would like to know is how many secret laws there are. I suppose the only way to find out is to break them, and see how the people who arrest you keep them secret. As far as I am concerned, laws exist to protect people, not to victimize them. On top of all the known laws, the one unknown law can be understood viscerally: If you see the government doing something unlawful or immoral, you better think twice who you talk to about it. Apparently the rule of law has been suspended for the duration of the war on terror. How do we get it back?


Hatha

vacuum
19th August 2012, 03:28 PM
Looks like the story is going mainstream:
http://www.businessinsider.com/brandon-raub-marine-911-detained-2012-8

Great comments too.

For some reason I haven't heard Alex Jones talk about it, which I find odd.

Look at the comments. Seems like people get it.

k-os
19th August 2012, 04:03 PM
As I see it they are systematically taking out threats, if you pose a big enough threat you are bought or killed, apparently the aforementioned couldn't be bought.

Reading that gave me the chills.

Down1
20th August 2012, 02:54 PM
In a hearing held at the hospital, government officials disregarded Raub’s explanation that the Facebook posts were being interpreted out of context, sentencing him up to 30 days’ further confinement in a VA psych ward.
http://wtvr.com/2012/08/20/statement-from-attorneys-on-brandon-raub-detention/


http://wtvr.com/2012/08/20/statement-from-attorneys-on-brandon-raub-detention/

Horn
20th August 2012, 06:14 PM
Everyone should wrap quotations around everything to make it appear as if it came from someone else...

...

Shami-Amourae
20th August 2012, 11:42 PM
Brandon Raub speaks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1EvM6XksM

iOWNme
21st August 2012, 05:56 AM
This guy says he was still thinking of re-enlisting in the Marines just before this happened? Knowing everything about 9/11, the Federal Reserve, NWO, etc?


I hate to say this but how awake, and in touch with reality is this guy? Maybe he is crazy.....

How is joining the Military that is used for external enemies and is 100% controlled by the Globalist, going to help your country when the enemy to our Liberties is already inside our gates?

DMac
21st August 2012, 07:31 AM
He is living in 2 worlds and I do not think he is as awake as he claims to be. The posts he was making on facebook were begging LEO to question him over. It really shouldn't surprise anyone. "Sharpening my ax, revolution starts now, generals I'm coming for you" - I don't think he read the guide to leaderless resistance. If you truly do crave revolution and think you are at war with the feds you need to apply stealth and staying off radar methods of resistance. What good does a dead or imprisoned soldier do for a possible resistance?


His picture reminds me of the guy I've seen on posters for some show 'Homeland' - Vet Marine becomes a homegrown terror threat.

Coincidence? Doubt it.

This is probably a psyop happening now. An op against the 'awake/aware' community. Raub either gave them their opportunity on a silver platter (if found guilty of whatever BS charge) or is possibly in on it (if let go and given a tv show). the end result will reveal the original intention.

35093510

This story and my rant from yesterday are very much related. Do you see why I am trying to beat over the heads of the board to stay as anonymous as you can? Yes they know who you are - but acting on that info without you divulging it is a different story. They cannot go after the anons yet, it would force their hand. Tyranny in America works on an incremental system.

History is being made with this story. This could very well be the first public application of the NDAA in a state who's court ruled these provisions of the NDAA unconstitutional. Will they have the guts to follow up?

Let's hear the Governor of Virginia call for some sharpened axes if Raub is not released. Wishful thinking ::)

Down1
21st August 2012, 04:25 PM
He is being transferred deeper into the Gulag now.

A judge has refused a request to stop a Virginia veteran detained for radical anti-government Facebook posts from being moved to a psychiatric ward three hours from his home.
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/22d3d421e2f043578282ed66c3e42741/VA--Veteran-Detained


http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/22d3d421e2f043578282ed66c3e42741/VA--Veteran-Detained

Libertytree
21st August 2012, 04:39 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOIwNbhHQI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOIwNbhHQI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdOIwNbhHQI)
Published on Aug 18, 2012 by TruthNeverTold
Here I look through Brandon's Depression Stage of the Awakening.

I hope I can do a call with Brandon when he gets out and help him get to the Acceptance Stage.

Our prayers are with him and his family.

Brandon Raub's FaceBook Posts that Lead to His Arrest

www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJuKlFuotA
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJuKlFuotA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSJuKlFuotA)
Published on Aug 18, 2012 by TruthNeverTold
Here I look at the actual FaceBook posts that lead to his arrest.

The 2cnd YT has been taken down. What I really notice though is his resemblance of the Holmes (batman) dude, especially in the frame of him being put into the car. Click the 2cnd YT and look at the reason they took it out.

k-os
21st August 2012, 04:48 PM
The 2cnd YT has been taken down. What I really notice though is his resemblance of the Holmes (batman) dude, especially in the frame of him being put into the car. Click the 2cnd YT and look at the reason they took it out.

I was thinking the same thing earlier, but I talked myself out of it.

Serpo
21st August 2012, 05:03 PM
This guy says he was still thinking of re-enlisting in the Marines just before this happened? Knowing everything about 9/11, the Federal Reserve, NWO, etc?


I hate to say this but how awake, and in touch with reality is this guy? Maybe he is crazy.....

How is joining the Military that is used for external enemies and is 100% controlled by the Globalist, going to help your country when the enemy to our Liberties is already inside our gates?


Maybe thats why they arrested him ,he knows all this stuff and still wants to fight for uncle sam.......he must be a nutter........

General of Darkness
21st August 2012, 05:06 PM
I guess the question is, WHAT DID WE LEARN FROM THIS?

Horn
21st August 2012, 06:26 PM
What I really notice though is his resemblance of the Holmes (batman) dude,

35133514

Same Drugs, or cloning lab?

Horn
21st August 2012, 06:31 PM
I was thinking the same thing earlier, but I talked myself out of it.

Programming language?

jimswift
22nd August 2012, 05:24 AM
Brandon Raub speaks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sX1EvM6XksM

WTF is this shit?

This dude supposedly just got 'black bagged' and hauled off to a mental ward....now Adam Kokesh is doing an interview with him from within the hospital?

Sounds like an "operation" if you ask me.

sirgonzo420
22nd August 2012, 05:53 AM
WTF is this shit?

This dude supposedly just got 'black bagged' and hauled off to a mental ward....now Adam Kokesh is doing an interview with him from within the hospital?

Sounds like an "operation" if you ask me.

Yeah, I know, right?

Adam Kokesh works for the Russian Government, so I'm sure everything is legit.

:rolleyes:

DMac
22nd August 2012, 06:29 AM
Yeah, I know, right?

Adam Kokesh works for the Russian Government, so I'm sure everything is legit.

:rolleyes:

Day 1 listening to Kokesh speak when he first splashed down on the patriot scene he gave off warning signs - something about him was not to be trusted. This is a bit odd with Raub, no? The first public NDAA 'detainment' and he's giving interviews with Russia Today from the hospital?

From an observational stand point it's funny how the alternative news community (ANC) is so quick to slam the 'alarmist' nature of the MSM yet practice the identical tactics within the ANC. Oh the irony..

k-os
22nd August 2012, 06:41 AM
Day 1 listening to Kokesh speak when he first splashed down on the patriot scene he gave off warning signs - something about him was not to be trusted. This is a bit odd with Raub, no? The first public NDAA 'detainment' and he's giving interviews with Russia Today from the hospital?

From an observational stand point it's funny how the alternative news community (ANC) is so quick to slam the 'alarmist' nature of the MSM yet practice the identical tactics within the ANC. Oh the irony..

My problem with Kokesh is that he only wants to hear himself speak. He had a great opportunity to actually interview a dude that was essentially kidnapped by the govt. What an opportunity! But all Kokesh did was talk. He is not very good at interviewing at all. If you listen to/watch that clip again, you'll notice that Kokesh goes on and on in his "questions", so much that Brandon Raub doesn't even know what the question is. Then Raub gets maybe one or two words in. What a waste . . . or done on purpose?

I tried to listen to Adam Versus The Man podcasts in the past and he basically just read the news. I did not get good vibes from him. I did hear a good interview with him on The Joe Rogan Experience, though, which is what sparked my interest.

Down1
22nd August 2012, 02:50 PM
I am not alarmed by his being able to give interviews.
The Gov is issuing a warning to all others.
It's not really about him.


Oath Keepers is understanding of the issue.

Oath Keepers is coming to the aid of this young Marine veteran and our rallying cry will be “CHARGE HIM, OR RELEASE HIM.” We cannot allow “mental illness” designations to be used as a weapon against political dissidents in America. See the below article by Brandon Smith for the disturbing facts regarding the use of mental health detention against Virginia Marine veteran Brandon Raub because of his constitutionally protected free speech on his Facebook page. As Brandon Smith illustrates, this is exactly what the Soviet Union did to dissidents who dared to criticize the communist regime - they were labeled “insane” and carted off to mental wards. Now it has begun here in America. This is a blatant circumvention of constitutional criminal due process which is every bit as dangerous as being designated an “unlawful combatant” under the NDAA and taken away to a military brig for detention without charges. How is this any different? Mental health detention can be used in exactly the same way.This is an incredibly dangerous crossing of a critical line in the sand - the politicization of the mental health system, using it as a weapon against dissidents to punish them for their constitutionally protected political speech. This case is the camel’s nose under the tent, and we need to stomp on it HARD, right now. And we will.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48981


http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/48981

mick silver
22nd August 2012, 04:58 PM
Real Reason they Arrested Raub: Strip Him of His Right to Bear ArmsWednesday, August 22, 2012 – by Staff Report
http://gold-silver.us/images/library/raub.jpg
Brandon Raub

Attention U.S. Military: You are Being Demonized. This is an Extremely Important Article ... It's now becoming overt. The meme (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=654');) emanating rapidly from the mainstream media (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=1861');) is that the U.S. military is a threat to the nation! It sounds very 1984 and backwards, but what isn't these days. What really captured my attention is a very clever and dangerous article published by Reuters (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=2551');) titled "U.S. Army battling racists within its own ranks." It sounds benign enough at first and as you continue to read it all seems pretty reasonable. Who wants crazy racists running around the armed forces? Nobody. That said, there is a tone throughout that clearly attempts to make the sheeple public suspicious about returning veterans, which is bothersome in its own right considering these young men and women are being sacrificed daily by the elite power structure that would never dip their dainty little toes anywhere near any action. – libertyblitzkrieg.com
Dominant Social Theme: Champions of free speech, anti-tax promotions and the right to keep and bear arms are closet white supremacist Neo-Nazis. Watch out!
Free-Market Analysis: The real reason why they arrested former US Marine Brandon Raub and then confined him to a psychiatric ward is now emerging.
It may be part of a deliberate Pentagon policy to declare people who are vets and concerned about eroding freedoms – as Raub obviously was – to be emotionally disturbed and thus ineligible to carry or use weapons.
It seems to have something to do with a new demonization of US military personnel, as Michael Krieger over at libertyblitzkrieg.com suggests.
Krieger brilliantly dissects a recent Reuters article, and has the insight to focus on a brazen statement right in the middle of the article. (It's called "burying the lead.") Anyway, here's how Krieger presents it:
... the article didn't really get me concerned until the section where they discuss a presentation that the U.S. Army itself is apparently showing to its own troops. Reuters watched this presentation and they write:
"The standard hateful message has not been replaced, just packaged differently with issues like freedom of speech, anti-gun control themes, tax reform and oppression," the presentation says, noting that recruitment may be difficult to detect, occurring quietly "in bars and break areas" on bases.
Wow. Do you folks see what this is saying? They aren't talking about racism anymore. They are essentially saying that people that defend freedom of speech and the right to bear arms are the new "white supremacists!" They really expect people to be stupid enough to fall for this. This is incredible. A U.S. Army presentation is apparently saying that military members who believe in the Bill of Rights are the enemy, despite the fact that they have sworn an oath to protect that very document.
You see? Raub is incarcerated in a mental facility to assess his level of loony racism. Why is he considered a racist threat? Because he has written on "issues like freedom of speech, anti-gun control themes, tax reform and oppression."
Never has the novel Catch 22 been more applicable than these days! The level of sophistry in which the Pentagon indulges is reaching Tower of Babel proportions. On another level, as analyzers of the dominant social themes (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=652');) of the elite, we have to admit a grudging respect for this sort of positioning.
Say you are worried about 500,000 vets returning from foreign wars having had a bellyful of violence and the hypocrisy that goes with it. You are worried about these young men and women because you are trying to build world government and American exceptionalism stands in your way.
America needs to be pacified. But though you've tried over and over again, America's frontier "gun culture" has resisted all attempts to overthrow it. And now all these young trained killers, male and female, are returning home and beginning to read the read Internet.
Soon they've got it figured out. The whole thing was phony! They've seen it first-hand, after all. They couldn't put their finger on it, but now in retrospect it becomes clear ... There never really was a "war on terror (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=1877');)." The entire rhetorical exercise was aimed at ... them – and their families.
At this point a number of soldiers go on drugs − anti-depressants, etc. These are horrible drugs that cause massive levels of suicide because it is easy to squeeze the trigger when you are detached from reality.
But not enough are dying fast enough? The power elite (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=610');) that apparently wants to take over the world is perhaps concerned that these vets form an impediment to their plans.
They've been through it before, after all. One reason global governance (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=2045');) moved so slowly in the 20th century was because of the "greatest generation." They couldn't do anything too overt. Hell, they probably would have had considerable backlash with a name like "Homeland Security."
Everything was sold very softly in the 20th century. But in the 21st, the proverbial gloves have come off. The elites are not waiting anymore. Panicked by the Internet and what it has revealed about the globalist conspiracy, they're rushing ahead full-speed.
We would argue that it is still too soon. The Internet Reformation (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=2195');) has forced their collective hand. And as a result, their actions are more and more transparent. If you pay attention, you can see the mechanism at work.
So ... what do you do with a fellow like Raub? First, you conflate racism with constitutional- and liberty-oriented rhetoric. Once you've made the connection, you can arrest him and place him under observation.
Nobody can quite figure out why Raub was arrested (as the sentiments he voiced are posted every day on the 'Net) but if our analysis is correct, Raub was picked up at least in part for exhibiting racist tendencies. He'll be let go, in our estimation, but not before he's labeled as emotionally disturbed and receives a weapons ban.
Isn't that the ultimate aim of this exercise? Conflate racism with patriotism, arrest those who make freedom-loving statements, cart them off to the loony bin and strip of them of their right to bear arms. (Of course, over time we're well aware the policies will move beyond mere gun-stripping. But, hey, you've got to start somewhere.)
It's self-selecting authoritarianism (javascript:showWindow(500,800,'/floatWindow.cfm?id=2606');) once you've established the racism-liberty link.
Conclusion: Somebody should try to get the document the US Army is supposedly showing for training purposes.
Tip of the hat to Abu ...

JohnQPublic
22nd August 2012, 06:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIlL1pq1Fhc

JohnQPublic
22nd August 2012, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbFQe9Fz9Dg

Horn
22nd August 2012, 07:51 PM
Powerful video with the friend there.

vacuum
22nd August 2012, 08:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIlL1pq1Fhc

That interview there was pretty epic. His whole family was out there, on the same page, backing him up. Then the mom doesn't even talk to the local news. I love right at the very end when they're walking away from the msm someone says "The illuminati is real". lol....the whole thing was great.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
22nd August 2012, 10:47 PM
The last thing enlisted and ex-marines want to see is one of their brothers being arrested over a free speech issue. They badmouth the govt all the time because they have a front and center view of it. They will think this is bogus, for sure. Most of the marines I have met take free speech very seriously.

gunDriller
23rd August 2012, 06:08 AM
Brent
Brandon
Britney

at least his parents are consistent !

Libertytree
23rd August 2012, 11:33 AM
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/aug/23/14/judge-says-he-will-order-release-marine-veteran-he-ar-2151347/

By: Bill McKelway (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/staff/516/) | Richmond Times-Dispatch
Published: August 23, 2012
Updated: August 23, 2012 - 1:26 PM
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HOPEWELL, Va. -- A judge today ordered the release of a Marine Corps veteran being detained as a psychiatric patient after concerns over his Facebook postings.

After an hourlong hearing, Circuit Judge W. Allan Sharrett said an involuntary commitment petition issued against Brandon J. Raub was invalid because it contained no allegation or basis to holding him.
"The petition is so devoid of any factual allegations that it could not be reasonably expected to give rise to a case or controversy," said the release order signed by the judge and sought by lawyers Anthony F. Troy and Brian D. Fowler.
Sharrett said that he was shocked by the failure of a magistrate to not include in the order any grounds for holding Raub, a Chesterfield resident who was transferred from John Randolph Hospital in Hopewell to the Salem Veterans Affairs Medical Center.
Cathleen Thomas, Raub's mother, said after the hearing that as soon as an order is entered by the court, she will head to Salem to get her son.
"This is phenomenal." she said. "This could have happened to anyone. We're not about allowing wrongs like this to take place.

"This has never been about anything but freedom of speech.... We're going to continue to post on Facebook."

Thomas said her son is a "true patriot" who gave up military benefits for a back injury so the money could go to another veteran.
Raub, 26, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was taken into custody last Thursday after the Secret Service, FBI and Chesterfield Police arrived at his North Chesterfield home. An FBI spokesperson said the agency had received inquiries from people concerned about the nature of postings Raub had made on his Facebook page.

Monday he was ordered to be detained for 30 days by a special justice who presides over commitment hearings. Special Justice Walter Douglas Stokes also ordered Raub to be transferred from John Randolph to the VA Hospital in Salem, about 180 miles from his home and family.

The Rutherford Institute, a civil liberties organization based in Charlottesville, challenged Raub's confinement, arguing that he is mentally fit and has become the target of an overzealous, unauthorized police action.

In an interview Raub gave to a radio station from the Hopewell hospital, Raub sounded alert and clear-thinking, at one point urging the public to "educate yourself."

"Find and rediscover the ideas of liberty and freedom," he said "Those are the ideas that make us great as people."

No information has come forward regarding what medical personnel determined is Raub's clinical condition. Raub told the radio station that he talked with assessment personnel for about 25 minutes. It was not clear if Raub was provided with legal counsel or given an opportunity to receive an assessment from a physician of his own choosing.

Facebook postings by Raub generally involved impassioned pleas for a return to American ideals of freedom and independence but also speak of betrayal by elected leaders.

"Your leaders are planning to merge the United States into a one-world banking system," he wrote. "They want to put computer chips in you... these men have evil hearts. They have tricked you into supporting corporate fascism. We gave them the keys to our country. We were not vigilant with our republic."

On Aug. 15, Raub posted that "the Revolution is here. And I will lead it."

He went on to say, "I know many of you think I'm going crazy and are wondering just why I have been posting the things I have been posting," he wrote Aug. 11. "I don't have the energy to explain. Just know that a new bneginning is coming."

On Aug. 4 he wrote, "I am standing against a great evil. I will do it all by myself if I have to."

Raub told The Times-Dispatch over the weekend that he served in the Marines from 2005 until 2011 and was a combat engineer sergeant. He said he operates a home-based silver numismatic-coin business.

beefsteak
23rd August 2012, 12:02 PM
http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2012/aug/23/14/judge-says-he-will-order-release-marine-veteran-he-ar-2151347/

By: Bill McKelway (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/staff/516/) | Richmond Times-Dispatch
Published: Updated: August 23, 2012 - 1:26 PM
HOPEWELL, Va. --

[Marine veteran] Raub, 26, told The Times-Dispatch over the weekend .... he operates a home-based silver numismatic-coin business.

And therein is his "sin," LT...and the real question as to WHY is now revealed. His sin is running a cash business. Suspect we'll hear more about this angle in the future spin?

Any GS'er thoughts on whether or not:
A) he still has his silver/numi business,
B) his clients are still confidential "work product",
C) his client base is now irreparably harmed.

Those who are silver stackers better go read the thread response about the 1936 EO still on the books which confiscates all SILVER above 500t/oz upper limit...posted earlier today in response to a Q from Sparky.

Then re-read the above Raub quotation again.

JohnQPublic
23rd August 2012, 12:06 PM
The Order (http://www2.timesdispatch.com/mgmedia/file/945/court-order-releasing-brandon-raub/)

VIRGINIA:
IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE CITY OF HOPEWELL
COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA
v. CL120000380-00
BRANDON J. RAUB


ORDER


THIS DAY CAME the defendant, by Counsel, on a motion to dismiss the petition for involuntary commitment and was argued by counsel.
UPON CONSIDERATION WHEREOF, the Court finding said motion proper, doth ORDER the petition dismissed on the grounds that the petition is so devoid of any factual allegations that it could not be reasonably expected to give rise to a case or controversy.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED, that Brandon J. Raub be released immediately from the VA Hospital in Salem, VA, or any other facility where he may be held.
ENTERED: / /



______________________
JUDGE


I ASK FOR THIS:
______________________________
Anthony F. Troy (VSB #05985)
Brian D. Fowler (VSB #44070)
TROUTMAN SANDERS LLP
P.O. Box 1122
1001 Haxall Point
Richmond, VA 23219-1122

SEEN:
______________________________
Richard K. Newman
Commonwealth’s Attorney
100 East Broadway, Room 252
Hopewell, VA 23860

JohnQPublic
23rd August 2012, 12:10 PM
I'm surprised the prosecution did not pull the NDAA card.

Probably because of this (http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/miller/120823):

This past May, Federal Judge Katherine B. Forrest blocked that provision, as reported on June 7th at RT.com (http://rt.com/usa/news/ndaa-judge-obama-forrest-295),

Last month Judge Forrest ruled in favor of a group of journalists and activists [who] filed a suit challenging the constitutionality of Section 1021 of the NDAA, a defense spending bill signed into law by President Obama on New Year's Eve. Specifically, Judge Forrest said in her injunction that the legislation contained elements that had a "chilling impact on First Amendment rights" and ruled that no, the government cannot imprison Americans over suspected ties with terrorists.

"In the face of what could be indeterminate military detention, due process requires more," said the judge.

...

the Obama administration nevertheless objected to Judge Forrest's ruling and asked that she clarify it, so she did, saying in part,

"Put more bluntly, the May 16 order enjoined enforcement of Section 1021(b)(2) against anyone until further action by this, or a higher, court — or by Congress. This order should eliminate any doubt as to the May 16 order's scope."

Judge Forrest does include in her ruling, however, that Americans can be indefinitely detained, but only providing that the government can link suspects directly to the September 11 terrorist attacks.

gunDriller
23rd August 2012, 01:57 PM
"Raub, 26, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was taken into custody last Thursday after the Secret Service, FBI and Chesterfield Police arrived at his North Chesterfield home. An FBI spokesperson said the agency had received inquiries from people concerned about the nature of postings Raub had made on his Facebook page."

iOWNme
23rd August 2012, 03:27 PM
"Raub, 26, who served in Iraq and Afghanistan, was taken into custody last Thursday after the Secret Service, FBI and Chesterfield Police arrived at his North Chesterfield home. An FBI spokesperson said the agency had received inquiries from people concerned about the nature of postings Raub had made on his Facebook page."

They should PROVE THAT.

Just so we can have the names of the anti-American TRASH, and add them to our list of traitors when SHTF.

Shami-Amourae
23rd August 2012, 03:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HXo2rDpSDU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogVdPvNoVQQ

iOWNme
23rd August 2012, 04:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HXo2rDpSDU

Im of two minds on this one...

First, Chris says that the system is doing this to 'test the waters' to see what the reaction will be. I totally agree with him. Yet his answer to this was to pull down some of his videos, lock his website, and stop making videos all together. EXACTLY what the system wants you to do! They control you through FEAR. Chris has to be aware of this.

But next he REALLY hits the nail on the head with his analysis of the fake war on terror and Brandon Raub. He really crystalizes the fact that soldiers like himself and Brandon were sent to a War based on LIES, and now that same system is going to try and blame them when they come home. He nails this one.

It wasnt until 7min into the video, that Chris tells why he decided to take down his vids. He says he got a strike on his channel for supposedly 'bullying' Brandon Raub, and he got another strike for copyright infringement from the girl who took the original video at Brandons house. This girl has contacted Chris and told him she never made a claim! So the system is basically telling Chris to watch out.....?

I truly feel for our brothers and sisters in the armed forces. Im 100% anti-military, but when i put myself into their shoes, i cannot imagine what it must feel like to sign up to DIE for this country, only to find out when you got home you were now the enemy.

People like Gordon Kahl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gordon_Kahl) learned this same lesson 50 years ago.


Oh, and hello to the ADL who we all know is reading this.

JohnQPublic
24th August 2012, 05:36 AM
Brandon Raub Released from Psychiatric Hospital; Did the FBI Go Too Far? (Video) (http://news.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981575749)
"...Raub, who served his country in Iraq and Afghanistan, was taken by the FBI and Secret Service earlier this week after he was accused of posting "terroristic" messages on Facebook. Raub's lead attorney, John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, said that the posts cited as "terrorist in nature" were actually a part of a private Facebook game called Illuminati that Brandon was playing online with his siblings and was being monitored by the FBI...."

JohnQPublic
24th August 2012, 05:41 AM
Anyone seen verification that he actually was released? I see claims but no details.

Camp Bassfish
24th August 2012, 06:03 AM
http://www.facebook.com/brandon.raub?sk=wall

JohnQPublic
27th August 2012, 12:57 PM
The initial comments and analysis (lack of vests) is interesting. I did not watch the whole thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkSxEHuqWJQ

Awoke
27th August 2012, 01:11 PM
I thought he was released?

JohnQPublic
27th August 2012, 01:16 PM
I thought he was released?

He was released.