Fort Hood

[MNeagle]

Searching the site, I see the Fort Hood incident occured before GS-US was created, so I'm starting a new thread.

There have been a few 'weird' rulings, and the shooter not even appearing in the courtroom because of his beard.

Here are a few of the latest:



Military trial for accused Fort Hood shooter Major Nidal Hasan delayed indefinitely over beard issue, Public Affairs office says - @Reuters (http://twitter.com/Reuters)Story metadata:

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No other info/story.

Another tweet earlier in the month:

[QUOTE]http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1143074895/twitterFORTHOOD_normal.jpg (http://twitter.com/FtHoodShootings/status/235820349579743232)
#breakingnews (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23breakingnews): Military appeals court halts #Hasan (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23Hasan) plea hearing until it rules on whether Hasan can be forcibly shaved. #fthood (http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23fthood)Story metadata:

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The Associated Press




Judge: Fort Hood suspect could be forcibly shaved
Updated: 5:26 p.m. Wednesday, July 25, 2012
Published: 12:09 p.m. Wednesday, July 25, 2012


FORT HOOD, Texas — An Army psychiatrist charged with killing 13 people in a shooting rampage at Fort Hood will be forcibly shaved if he doesn't remove his beard himself, a judge said Wednesday.

Maj. Nidal Hasan appeared in court Wednesday sporting a beard as he did during a court appearance last month. The beard violates Army regulations, but Hasan said it is an expression of his Muslim faith.

The judge, Col. Gregory Gross, held Hasan in contempt of court for keeping the beard and fined him $1,000. Fort Hood spokesman Chris Haug said Gross gave Hasan the choice to shave on his own or be forcibly shaved sometime before his court-martial begins Aug. 20.

Hasan again refused to shave and watched the rest of the day's hearing outside the courtroom.

Hasan, 41, is charged with 13 counts of premeditated murder and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder in the November 2009 massacre, the worst shooting incident on a U.S. military post. He faces the death penalty if convicted.

Until last month, he had been clean-shaven every time he attended court.

But since Hasan grew a beard, he and one of his attorneys have watched the pretrial hearings on closed-circuit television in a trailer near the courthouse. He refuses to shave, and Gross has indicated that Hasan might have to watch the court-martial from the trailer as well.

But on Wednesday, Gross said he wanted Hasan in the courtroom to prevent a possible appeal on the issue if Hasan is convicted.

Hasan's defense attorneys argued that he had not shaved in observance of the holy Islamic month of Ramadan. Ramadan is expected to end just before the court-martial starts.

Also Wednesday, Gross said he would review a copy of a new FBI report on the shootings. The report, made public last week, includes emails Hasan sent to Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical Islamic cleric killed in Yemen last year by a drone strike.

The emails range from rambling messages about supporting terrorists and U.S. soldiers killing comrades in the name of Islam to questions about whether al-Awlaki could help him find a suitable wife. The emails attracted the attention of FBI and anti-terrorism task force agents in December 2008.

But authorities did not pursue a case against Hasan, according to the report, due to a series of gaps and miscommunication errors.

http://www.statesman.com/multimedia/dynamic/01521/CER101_1521869k.jpg


FILE - This undated photo provided by the Bell County Sheriff's Department via The Temple Daily Telegram shows Nidal Hasan. A military judge said Wednesday, July 25, 2012, the Army psychiatrist charged in the fatal Fort Hood shooting rampage will be forcibly shaved if he doesn't remove his beard on his own. The beard violates Army regulations. (AP Photo/Bell County Sheriff's Department via The Temple Daily Telegram)___

http://www.statesman.com/news/nation/judge-fort-hood-suspect-could-be-forcibly-shaved-2422126.html

[sirgonzo420]

Wow. What a dog and pony show.

[Dogman]

The guy is doomed. There is one difference between civilian and military people. A civilian has basic rights under the law/constitution. And if you are military you basically have no rights or they are limited. The gov owns you. If they want you to have something they issue it to you. If they order him to shave or get a haircut and he does not they can charge him and I think even force him.

The only question about this case is what to do with him, lock him up forever + 1 year or make a martyr out of him. I think they will dig a hole and put him in it and then build a prison over him.

[MNeagle]

Judge won't let Fort Hood suspect plead guilty

By ANGELA K. BROWN (http://gold-silver.us/content/angela-k-brown) — Mar. 20 8:23 PM EDT



FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) — An Army psychiatrist will not be allowed to plead guilty to any charges in the deadly 2009 Fort Hood shooting rampage, a judge ruled Wednesday.

Maj. Nidal Hasan's attorneys previously said he was ready to plead guilty to the 13 counts of premeditated murder he faces in the worst mass shooting on a U.S. military installation, but Army rules prohibit a judge from accepting a guilty plea to charges that carry the death penalty.

Defense attorneys then asked that Hasan be allowed to plead guilty to 13 counts of unpremeditated murder, which does not carry the death penalty.

No guilty pleas would have stopped his murder trial or possibility of being sentenced to death.

But the judge, Col. Tara Osborn, ruled Hasan cannot plead guilty to those lesser charges or the 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder that he also faces. He still would have been tried on the premeditated murder charges, so pleading guilty to the attempted premeditated murder charges could have been used against him at trial, Osborn said.

She also said he would not be allowed to plead guilty to unpremeditated murder and unpremeditated attempted murder, because that "would be the functional equivalent of pleading guilty to a capital offense." A capital offense is a charge that carries the death penalty.

Hasan's court-martial is to start with jury selection May 29 and with testimony July 1 on the Texas Army post.

Some military law experts have suggested Hasan wanted to plead guilty to lesser charges to try to avoid a possible execution, with defense attorneys hoping at least one juror would have seen Hasan's guilty pleas as a sign of remorse. Unlike other military trials, a jury's decision for a death sentence must be unanimous.

After hearing several hours of testimony Wednesday, Osborn also said she would consider whether to allow a terrorism consultant to testify at the trial. Prosecutors said Evan Kohlmann's testimony and report on Hasan would show motive. But defense attorneys said Hasan isn't charged with terrorism, so Kohlmann's testimony would be prejudicial to the military jury.


http://www.bigstory.ap.org/article/judge-wont-let-fort-hood-suspect-plead-guilty

[Dogman]

Wow. What a dog and pony show. Leave normal dogs out of this shit. We serve our inferiors with dedication. It is only the few as with humans in comparison that the ass hats get attention.

Mostly we have short life's that we dedicate to who we love. And go out without complaint. But hearts full of love.