Feel Good Story Of The Day: Russell Dohner, doctor for 57 years still only charges $5

[joboo]

87 year old Russell Dohner, town doctor for 57 years in smalltown USA, still only charges $5 per visit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wLAM0cYsLck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wLAM0cYsLck

[Old Herb Lady]

OMG ! Thank You soo much joboo, you just made my day !!!
I am so happily speechless that nothing or no one could possibly mess up my day,
this doctor is a SAINT. He is just unreal. Oh God Bless him. He looks soooo much younger than his age.
His mind is in excellent condition and his heart is just the sweetest, old fashioned kinda caring soul that
I just want to go to Rushville, Illinois right this minute . I'll make something up , sore throat or earache,
I'll pay double and then some.
Cry happy happy happy cry
Can you imagine going to see the same physician as your grandmother did ?? just WOW !!
and he'll see u on a SUNDAY if you need him ! OMG again.





Russell Dohner, Illinois Doctor, Charges Patients $5 For Entire Physician Visit

The Huffington Post | By Khadeeja Safdar (http://gold-silver.us/khadeeja-safdar) Posted: 06/25/2012 3:58 pm Updated: 06/25/2012 4:26 pm





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Dr. Russell Dohner has been treating Rushville residents for about 60 years, while never charging more than $5 per visit.



While the rest of the country awaits the Supreme Court's decision on the Affordable Care Act (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/25/supreme-court-health-care-ruling_n_1623790.html) and the future of health care costs, the residents of Rushville, Ill., are less worried about the cost of a visit to the doctor.
Russell Dohner, the town's doctor since 1955, charges his patients just $5 (http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/318267/3/Illinois-doctor-has-charged-5-for-almost-60-years) -- not for a co-pay but for the entire cost of a physician's visit, according to KSDK News. The low price isn't the only thing at Dohner's office that's remained constant for decades. The office hasn't been remodeled, nurses haven't been replaced and staff members haven't ditched their old-school method of writing medical records on index cards in favor of more modern technology.
Considered a local hero, the 87-year-old Dohner keeps his clinic open seven days a week.
In 57 years of practicing medicine, he's never taken a vacation, KSDK News reports (http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/318267/3/Illinois-doctor-has-charged-5-for-almost-60-years).
The $5 physician visit charge has been in place since the 1970s (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20597583,00.html). Before that, he charged $2 per visit.
The Illinois doctor, a graduate of Northwestern University Medical School, is offering a huge service to his town in the current economic climate. Medical costs, which rose 6 percent nationwide in the past year (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/20/health-care-costs-rise_n_1440584.html), are taking a heavy toll on American households. A family of four with an employment-based insurance plan can expect to pay $20,000 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/15/health-care-costs-record_n_1516380.html) -- or about 40 percent of median household income (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/07/media-income-2011_n_1324859.html) -- on medical expenses this year.
Across the country, the financial burden of rising medical costs has many Americans scaling back on physician visits and medications (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/05/business/americans-struggle-with-medical-care-despite-economic-recovery.html). More than 80 percent of the uninsured reportedly skimp on necessary health care (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/11/health-care-costs_n_1587284.html).
But thanks to Dr. Dohner, the uninsured residents of Rushville have a place to get much-needed medical treatment.

[Old Herb Lady]

Russell Dohner Charges $5 a Visit

By Champ Clark
06/24/2012 at 04:00 PM EDT





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Russell Dohner
Callie Lipkin

When Russell Dohner was a boy, he had a terrifying bout of seizures.

"When I came out of them," he tells PEOPLE, "there would always be [our physician] Dr. Hamilton. I decided I wanted to be like him."

After medical school, he hung out a shingle in the next county over. His fee: $2.

That was in 1955. And while times have changed, Dr. Dohner hasn't.

He still sees patients seven days a week out of the same office, keeps handwritten records with the help of his longtime nurse, Florence Bottorff, 88, and has been charging patients $5 a visit since the '70s.

"That's the way I've always done it," says the gentlemanly bachelor. "There are quite a few people who come to see me because they can't afford anybody else. I can help."

For that, a town is grateful. "Right now, I'm not working and I don't have insurance," says Mildred Ortiz, 50, who has high blood pressure.
"Dr. Dohner works for his patients, and for love."

[madfranks]

How can you afford to stay open when you bring in that little money? He has to pay his staff, pay his overhead, pay his own wages, out of $5 visits? How many people does he see a day? Even if he sees 50 patients daily, that's only $250.

[Old Herb Lady]

I have no idea whatsoever. Just take my money, take it, how much does he want, need ?
I secretly don't get along with doctors, but I LOVE him.
I hate prescription medication with a passion, but I still love him.
He is an angel.
maybe he would like some silver or gold, oh here, just take it !

[mick silver]

your telling me there a real doctor still in this country . i bet he works out of his house . i would pay him with a chicken and i would bet he would take it for payment

[Old Herb Lady]

The Doc who has charged $5/visit for over 55 years

--by Bob Dotson, Original Story (http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/40661756/ns/today-today_news/t/meet-small-town-doc-whos-charged-visit-years/#.T6zJTVFSSQF), May 11, 2012
http://www.servicespace.org/inc/ckfinder/userfiles/images/dgood/62567-russell-dohner-illinois-discount-doctor__crop-landscape-534x0[1].jpgCharging the price of a fancy cup of coffee, Dr. Russell Dohner has cared for Rushville, an Illinois town of 4,300 people, for more than half a century, delivering 3,500 babies, and never taking a vacation — or even an entire day off.

Rushville, Ill., is the kind of place where backyards have gardens instead of grass, and sunflowers wave in the wind. A tiny town, just 4,300 people, named for a doctor and settled by the men who marched back from the War of 1812. Rushville was built on government land, halfway between St. Louis and Chicago, as a gift to veterans. Those who did not come back got a statue on the courthouse square and were called heroes. “In a mercenary world,” a waiting patient told me, “this place is an oasis.” But there is another sort of hero in Rushville today — one the town treasures, and can also touch. Dr. Russell Dohner (http://www.nbcdfw.com/topics?topic=Russell+Dohner) has been looking after his neighbors for 55 years, charging them about what we pay for a fancy cup of coffee: five bucks a visit. Making a difference

Dohner doesn’t believe in tossing things away, and that keeps costs down. The only thing modern in his office is medicine. Most of his nurses have been with him nearly as long as his furniture. They’re paid well because Doc works around the clock.


He will go anywhere, at any time, to help those in need, often arriving before emergency crews. He once saved a small boy from smothering to death in a corncrib, once climbed down into a coal mine to help rescue four men. Dohner broke his own back a few years ago and has had a heart attack — the only times he’s ever closed his clinic. He took time off until patients started coming to his house seeking medical care.

He does have help. Doc brought half the Rushville hospital staff into the world, including the woman who runs the place, Lynn Stambaugh. She used to wash dishes at the hospital. Dohner inspired her to go to nursing school. I asked her why Doc never burned out. "Well, I think because every day he makes a difference to at least one person, and if you can do that, you can go on.”The morning we first met, back in 1983, Dohner had been to surgery twice, prepped a broken arm, handled two emergency cases, checked on 50 patients and delivered three babies. It was not yet 10:30.No days off

He has only one hobby: trees. He’s donated 10,000 of them to this prairie town. Now and then he does slip away to go fishing on a Thursday afternoon, but he’s usually in his tie, and always near a phone. He has not, in 55 years, had a vacation, not even a full day off. What would he do, if he did take a day off?“I would like to go to Missouri,” Doc says. Missouri is only 58 miles west of Rushville.“Yes, but I have to take care of my patients first.”The last time Doc left Illinois was during World War II. He was a military policeman in the Army, guarding President Harry Truman. “I was close enough to touch him,” Doc smiles, “but he wouldn’t have liked that.”Dr. Dohner was born 85 years ago on a nearby farm, one of seven children. He worked to pay his own way through Northwestern University medical school. He had his heart set on being a big-city cardiologist, but decided, “Rushville needed a doctor, so I stayed. It’s the way it’s got to be, if I take care of what comes.” Russell Dohner has won dozens of awards for the quality of his practice and was runner-up for Country Doctor of the Year. Every morning before the sun peeks over the water tower, dozens of people are crammed into his waiting room. He takes no appointments. Those who are seriously ill use the back door to get immediate attention; others sit for an hour or more to visit a doctor who knows more about them than some of their families do. The first baby he delivered now drives her granddaughter 30 miles for an office visit. “When your little girl gets carried to surgery by the doctor instead of one of the nurses, she will learn to trust him, too,” she said. docc has no children of his own — unless you count the 3,500 babies he’s delivered. That’s more than the population of Rushville.




If you would like to contact the subjects of this American Story with Bob Dotson (http://www.nbcdfw.com/topics?topic=Bob+Dotson), contact:Dr. Russell Rowland Dohner
103 West Washington Street
Rushville, Illinois 62681


(217) 322-4363


Doctor Dohner does not have e-mail. The best way to contact him is through:Luan Phillips
Director of Community Relations
Culbertson Memorial Hospital
238 South Congress Street
Rushville, IL 62681
217-322-4321, ext. 269

http://www.dailygood.org/view.php?sid=234

[Old Herb Lady]

He has a fund to pay for the people who can't afford his $ 5.00 bill !!!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery/71818262/News/Small-town-doc-charges-small-fees

I'm in AWE. Old fashioned country doctor .....this is just to unreal. I swear to God I've not seen one of his kind in decades.

I know a lady doctor in the country that wears big men-lookin-workboots & jeans & flannel shirt to work & talks like a true hillbilly,
but she's still in a modern office & charges modern prices.....this doctor wears a suit everyday & lives like it's 50 years ago .
I haven't seen a phone like that in an office setting since the 80's at least. ( the old rotary ones)

[General of Darkness]

And everyday I bet jews laugh at him.

[Old Herb Lady]

Let them laugh at him, who cares...he is unaffected by evil--- he'd see them too, treat them, pray for them too.....no problem.......
they can go to h*LL

[Dogman]

He has a fund to pay for the people who can't afford his $ 5.00 bill !!!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/videogallery/71818262/News/Small-town-doc-charges-small-fees

I'm in AWE. Old fashioned country doctor .....this is just to unreal. I swear to God I've not seen one of his kind in decades.

I know a lady doctor in the country that wears big men-lookin-workboots & jeans & flannel shirt to work & talks like a true hillbilly,
but she's still in a modern office & charges modern prices.....this doctor wears a suit everyday & lives like it's 50 years ago .
I haven't seen a phone like that in an office setting since the 80's at least. ( the old rotary ones)

Sounds like this guy honors the true and restful traditions of the good life, living by the age old philosophy that states, "If it ain't broke don't fix it"!

[singular_me]

True Aruyvedic doctors in India have been offering their services for donations only , they sustain that money corrupts the art of medicine. Again, truth have been out there since ever, Aruyvedic teachings are 5,000 year old.

Ayurveda - Art of Being 1-7 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-H6xEPsNvw

ps: if you have a health condition and wish to explore alternative treatments, plz watch this truly amazing video asap.

Aryuveda principles are based on restoring balance of the 4 components (fire, water, air and earth) ruling over human biology, using herbs. Homeopathy is derived from it. In india, those doctors are too physicians, often Phds, in conventional medicine.

Be aware that westerners practitioners dont always follow the ethics of donations. But they exist.

[Old Herb Lady]

wrong thread.
You missed the point. LOTS & LOTS of natural healers accept donations or charge minimal fees, I personally know hundreds of them......
this is about a ONE OF A KIND RARE U.S. M.D.
There are tons of threads on all the other kind of natural doctors, he is NOT a natural doctor.

[Gaillo]

OHL,

I think you might have a bit of a "cognitive disconnect" going on here. You do NOT believe in mainstream medicine, pharmaceuticals, and modern medical practice... but you praise this guy as an "angel"? ???

He's an "Angel" for administering treatments that you are opposed to, as possibly harmful to the patient, just because he does so charitably? That's like praising a communist official who rounds up dissenters and executes them simply because he "works tirelessly and without pay".

I'm not being trying to be mean or anything... just trying to wrap my mind around your praise for this guy! :o

[Old Herb Lady]

Cognitive Disconnect ? You must be joking.

Can anyone on this forum, friend or foe explain why I have so much respect for this doctor ?
I ask you , please, anyone ? Does everyone not understand or is it just Gaillo ?

Does anyone know why or what I am talking about, ? I just need to know before I answer his questions.

I am just stupefied. Someone please give me some hope that you understand me.......

If not, I give up talking anymore.

[General of Darkness]

Cognitive Disconnect ? You must be joking.

Can anyone on this forum, friend or foe explain why I have so much respect for this doctor ?
I ask you , please, anyone ? Does everyone not understand or is it just Gaillo ?

Does anyone know why or what I am talking about, ? I just need to know before I answer his questions.

I am just stupefied. Someone please give me some hope that you understand me.......

If not, I give up talking anymore.

OHL, I do understand. This man gives because that's just who HE IS AS A MAN. I respect that.

[joboo]

All i can say is if his town does not erect a statue, name something after him, or something else sizable honoring this guy when he passes, something is seriously not right in the world.

[AndreaGail]

IRS' POV: "what? he only took in this much $ money this year? our metrics tell us that doctors in his area should be taking in much much more. He must be evading taxes! we need to send him to jail with all the rapists and murderers and get this dangerous man off the streets so our children are safe "

[Old Herb Lady]

OHL,

I think you might have a bit of a "cognitive disconnect" going on here. You do NOT believe in mainstream medicine, pharmaceuticals, and modern medical practice... but you praise this guy as an "angel"? ???

He's an "Angel" for administering treatments that you are opposed to, as possibly harmful to the patient, just because he does so charitably? That's like praising a communist official who rounds up dissenters and executes them simply because he "works tirelessly and without pay".

I'm not being trying to be mean or anything... just trying to wrap my mind around your praise for this guy! :o


SIGH. huh.

So yes, I despise pharmaceutical drugs & mainstream medicine. I do not take any prescriptions nor OTC's for ANYTHING ever. That is my choice for myself because I know of the natural/herbal/food way of fixing my malady no matter what. (except for TRAUMA CARE ) I am a libertarian & believe in people's right to choose to put whatever they want into their bodies. The communist analogy, you can shove, sorry not trying to be mean either, there. ooops.

I adore that doctor in the OP & I guess I'll explain it, even tho you probably won't understand .
I've been talking on these forums for 5 years & not one person besides General tries to even reply to my question. Thanks General, I appreciated it, but that's not what I was talking about.

When I LOVE a family member or friend or anyone that comes to me and they are sick or are having any malady in their body
and DO NOT completely believe in my way of life and do not believe
in natural healing and I have done everything in my power to try to convince them that it will help them, BUT THEY ARE BRAINWASHED INTO BELIEVING THAT THEY MUST GO TO THE DOCTOR FOR MEDICINE TO FIX THEM, then who am I to stop them ? Nobody. Their free will. SO GO !!! They want me to give them some magic herb pill that does not exist to immediately fix their problem....not gonna happen. I have helped countless people GET OFF OF THEIR TOXIC prescriptions including insulin, antibiotics, steroids, allergy meds, cholesterol drugs, stomach ulcer meds, thyroid meds, pain meds..you name it. The cure for diabetes is NOT insulin. If you don't want to take the herbs & change your diet & lifestyle then the diabetic will stay insulin dependant and their pancreas just gets weaker & weaker.
The medicine/insulin SAVES THEIR LIFE, just like ALOT of medications do. There is NO other option if they're not going to do the work to STAY OFF OF MEDICATIONS !
The meds do not cure the problem, Gaillo, they put a bandaid on the problem because the person refuses to help themselves.

How many people do you know on prescription meds ? guess what ? There's alot of them. Does it make me sick, does it kill me to know that this is what people
are doing their bodies ? Yes. Does everyone listen to the advice they are given for their greatest good no matter how hard I try ? NO.
Can I change them ? No. they must do it for themselves, all I can do is educate them.
I have been very successful with more people than I can ever remember, but not everyone......for those people........off to the doctor they go then.....SEE YA !
(see ya when your so sickly from being over-medicated & doctored to death that maybe you'll try to help yourself)


Furthermore, When somebody calls me at the crack of dawn before I've even had a chance to brush my teeth or calls me late at night when I'm dead asleep or anytime in between and they're sick or somebody that they love is sick and want me to weigh in on their problem, for example if somebody says they have a horrible earache or their child is screaming with a earache and I tell them "if it were me this is what I would do.....and I explain the very simple way of handling the stressful/painful situation and they say to me,
"WELL, I CAN'T DO THAT, I'M TOO AFRAID", or if there are herbs that need to be taken via the MOUTH or INTO THE EAR CANAL and they will not do it, then how in the hell are they supposed to get better ? I ask you, Gaillo . They won't ! So go to the doctor ! I'm not going to shove my natural healing down their throat or down their ear canal for them !

Going to the doctor says this about people..." I do not know how to fix this health problem, I need it fixed ASAP, and a doctor and the medicine will help me.
Now I edumacate people on how to take responsibility for their own health & their own bodies, but if they deny the truth that they can heal themselves, it's out of my hands, OK.
Go to the doctor.

Now, the doctor in the OP is charitable like you stated, that's only a tiny fraction of why I like him. You pay five bucks for him to write you a prescription for some toxic med.
It's still a prescription that I despise for MYSELF and would NEVER take it !!! Other people NEEEED THAT MEDICINE TO LIVE !!!! No matter how awfully true that may be to me !!
I can't beat myself up over & over because they won't listen & WANT MEDICINE instead !!!
So that 5 bux to someone with no health insurance could save their life. They still have to come up with bux to pay for the poison at the pharmacy, too, ya know.

That doctor has love in his heart that makes him be able to NEVER take a day off and to be able to keep going on & on & on be happy.
His old fashioned values and caring, gentle nature would automatically have healing abilities just by meeting with him .
he is not GREEDY and HE IS THE TYPE OF DOCTOR THAT PEOPLE NEED TO SEE IF THEY ARE NOT INTERESTED IN NATURAL HEALING,
not the modern day doctors who suck the life out of your soul & pocketbook before you die and then continue to send exhorbitant bills to your family after your dead
because they killed you, but blame it on natural causes.

People go through a dozen years of public education & NEVER learn a thing about how to take care of themselves, EVER.
They are trained from cradle to grave to go the doctor, do I wish every person in the world would honor their bodies and turn to natural healing
instead of allopathic 'treatment'. Yes, I yearn for that everyday, it can only happen one person at a time, until they wake up..... so until then......
the people that we love and adore who are suffering & need their medicine because & turn their backs on natural healing all should have a doctor like HIM in the OP.


People learn the hard way,Gaillo.

There are no incurable diseases, just incurable people.

Shall I go on or did you "wrap your head around " it yet ?

[Gaillo]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.

[singular_me]

wrong thread.
You missed the point. LOTS & LOTS of natural healers accept donations or charge minimal fees, I personally know hundreds of them......
this is about a ONE OF A KIND RARE U.S. M.D.
There are tons of threads on all the other kind of natural doctors, he is NOT a natural doctor.

OHL... first I didnt want to mention "natural medicine" but only that many doctors works for peanuts in the world, especially in India. Edit: is it really such a deal in the end?

btw, I am not inclined to fragment topics that share a lot in common. It is about medicine and humility, no? :) conventional or not, we are looking at the "action" here, arent we? I said a bit about aryuvedic medicine because of its ageless background, hence donations driven practice..

how can we be sure that he is one of a kind in america? I wouldnt bet on that. However, I really found the article compelling.

[singular_me]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.

actually you make a good point... nothing to do with the OHL standpoint but the media here... I can see this everywhere now. The Media raise us this way, to admire made-up heroes and brainwash us with half truths.

I am sure that this doctor regards himself as "an exceptional being"... thats ironic and cynical. The world is just too doomed....

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

How can you afford to stay open when you bring in that little money? He has to pay his staff, pay his overhead, pay his own wages, out of $5 visits? How many people does he see a day? Even if he sees 50 patients daily, that's only $250.

The article says he sees patients 7 days a week.


250 x 7 = $1750/week

1750 x 4 = $7000/month

7000 x 50 = $350,000/year

350,000 x 35 = $12,250,000 over the last 35 years. (it says he adopted his $5 rate in the 1970s)


Maybe it doesn't take that much to run a small practice. It really shows you the depths to which we have been conditioned to expect medical services to be expensive.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

OHL,


I think you might have a bit of a "cognitive disconnect" going on here. You do NOT believe in mainstream medicine, pharmaceuticals, and modern medical practice... but you praise this guy as an "angel"? ???

He's an "Angel" for administering treatments that you are opposed to, as possibly harmful to the patient, just because he does so charitably? That's like praising a communist official who rounds up dissenters and executes them simply because he "works tirelessly and without pay".

I'm not being trying to be mean or anything... just trying to wrap my mind around your praise for this guy! :o


Western medicine is absolutely fantastic for trauma care. If I get into a car accident, please, take me to a western doctor!

They're bad at addressing the root causes of illnesses, and curing chronic diseases. But for trauma care? There's really no contest.

[Gaillo]

Western medicine is absolutely fantastic for trauma care. If I get into a car accident, please, take me to a western doctor!

They're bad at addressing the root causes of illnesses, and curing chronic diseases. But for trauma care? There's really no contest.

100% agreed... with no reservations.

[Old Herb Lady]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.


Yes, very clueless.

Everyone with that kind of mindset says the same thing until someone they love and adore gets really, really sick
and can't help them and take them to the doctor for help because they don't know what to do or don't know what's
wrong with them. So no one that you love or care about goes to the doctor for anything and is completely all naturale, Gaillo ?

Not sure how old you are, you sound very young, twenties or thirties, must not have ever had a wife or girlfriend
give birth, must not have ever taken a sick loved one to a doctor for help then when they've refused natural care ?

Thats the vibe you're giving.

Doctors like the one in the OP do also give physicals, check your eyes, and examine other orifices of your body
without giving you a script.

People do have the option of not filling their script, too.

I hope to God that you or your loved ones never need a doctor for an illness or an outbreak of something that
you don't have the solution at home to help them.

I hope and pray to God that you let someone like the doctor in the OP help them if you can't or a natural person in your vicinity can't get them to take any herbs.....cause the way your suggesting is that you would rather do nothing
then because his poison medicine is wrong ??

You must not know very many sick people.

Good Luck with that in the very near future.

[Gaillo]

OHL,

You know nothing about me... and attacking me instead of addressing my point is counterproductive.

For your information:

I'm 44 years old, almost 45. I've been married once, for 10 years, now divorced. My ex-wife has a serious stomach condition that got her hooked on Prilosec for the entire time I was with her. She also had a miscarriage, heartbreaking hospital visit. My current GF and I have been together 11 years. She has a deformed throat, and is always choking on things. I've taken her to the ER several times. I have broken 2 bones in my life, my right thumb and my left leg. Did not seek medical help, let them both heal on their own.

Oh yeah... I'm pretty sure I have pancreatic cancer right now... dealing.

You seem to have taken this personally, so I'll do the same. Kindly get stuffed.

[joboo]

Dude, you can't have pancreatic cancer, that shit is not even an option to think about. Get an MRI if you can without breaking the bank.

In the meantime get some cultured vegetables (kraut) in you, so your pancreas won't have to work as hard secreting basically the same enzymes to aid digestion. I hammer the stuuf, along with raw garlic, and onions, make my own broccoli sprouts as well. Overdose on those sulphorophanes .

Pancreatic cancer is a few months, and that's it. Everyone I've ever known (three people), and everyone I've ever heard having it was boom lights out.

F-ck that scene!

[Old Herb Lady]

OHL,

You know nothing about me... and attacking me instead of addressing my point is counterproductive.

For your information:

I'm 44 years old, almost 45. I've been married once, for 10 years, now divorced. My ex-wife has a serious stomach condition that got her hooked on Prilosec for the entire time I was with her. She also had a miscarriage, heartbreaking hospital visit. My current GF and I have been together 11 years. She has a deformed throat, and is always choking on things. I've taken her to the ER several times. I have broken 2 bones in my life, my right thumb and my left leg. Did not seek medical help, let them both heal on their own.

Oh yeah... I'm pretty sure I have pancreatic cancer right now... dealing.

You seem to have taken this personally, so I'll do the same. Kindly get stuffed.

You're right I didn't know anything about you, Gaillo, if I wasn't so brutally personal (everything's personal really) then you wouldn't have revealed all of that.

I have suffered 4 miscarriages myself when I was in my 20's ....I hemorrhaged & almost passed out when I lost my twins & had to go to the hospital for the horrific/heartbreaking experience (all over again).
I understand your pain & her pain & am so very sorry for the loss of her pregnancy.

Also am so very sorry about your girlfriend's throat problem, if the doctors don't help her, I'm sure there's something natural that can help her, Gaillo.
Was she born with it or was it caused by an acid problem ? I know a guy that had that, but his happened when he was older brought on by an illness.

And to read of your pain & suffering thinking you have pancreatic cancer ? OMG.
Why don't you want to get a diagnosis to be sure ? I hope you're totally wrong. Are you in alot of pain ?
If you don't want to get a diagnosis, I don't know why.

You don't have to do what they want you to do, you do what YOU want to do.

Please just find out , what about pancreatitis, is that a possibility ? Slippery Elm Bark can give you some relief.

You are a very stubborn person, like me ! I know that you do not ever want to have to use a necessary evil (a dr. ) but please just
think about it.....you need to see one for a diagnosis no matter how bad you don't want to.

You gotta get better !!!!

Don't hate me cause I told you to shove it !! I talk like a crazy old bitch, but my old man says I just have a lotta passion (wayyy too much) & overly express my smart mouth !
It usually works, no ? Hug,.
Do you accept my apology ? So sorry I got so personal & pushed & pushed & pushed you.
I'm trying to be less hyper, I swear, I'll try harder ! It's sooo hard ?!! UGH !

[Gaillo]

OHL,

It's OK. We're good.
The forum is having some kind of glitch, thanks button doesn't seem to be working right now... your post deserves one.

Yes, Henny's throat problem is from when she was born, not acid related. As for me, the day the white coats get a shred of my time, money, or cooperation is going to be a very cold day in hell... I didn't go to them for a broken leg, I'm not about to go to them for cancer. I'm doing apricot kernals, and watching my diet.

Be well,
-Gaillo

[BrewTech]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.

All I needed to see was the guy coming in with a sore throat (obviously a pussy), and the doc takes a quick look and prescribes antibiotics.

Fucking quack, no matter how much he charges.

[joboo]

All I needed to see was the guy coming in with a sore throat (obviously a pussy), and the doc takes a quick look and prescribes antibiotics.

Fucking quack, no matter how much he charges.

The patient is equally to blame no?

Everyone and their dog knows to try gargling salt water etc...it probably did not alleviate the problem. Antibiotics do work.

The guy charges $5, I doubt you're going to get an in depth consultation on holistic healing for that price.

Heck, for $5 all I would want is a ballpark diagnosis, and that's still a hell of a deal.

The patient should be the one asking specific questions, and once prescribed, it's up to the patient to ask for alternatives.

[BrewTech]

The patient is equally to blame no?

Everyone and their dog knows to try gargling salt water etc...it probably did not alleviate the problem. Antibiotics do work.

The guy charges $5, I doubt you're going to get an in depth consultation on holistic healing for that price.

Heck, for $5 all I would want is a ballpark diagnosis, and that's still a hell of a deal.

The patient should be the one asking specific questions, and once prescribed, it's up to the patient to ask for alternatives.

Apologist.

Sure, antibiotics work on bacterial infections (if prescribed properly), but did this dumb fuck even attempt a diagnosis?

If $5.00 is all you want to pay for a diagnosis, is that admitting that you are entirely clueless about what may be wrong with you? If so, best of luck to you.

[joboo]

Apologist.

Sure, antibiotics work on bacterial infections (if prescribed properly), but did this dumb fuck even attempt a diagnosis?

If $5.00 is all you want to pay for a diagnosis, is that admitting that you are entirely clueless about what may be wrong with you? If so, best of luck to you.


My apologies, I wasn't aware you were there, and know everything about what went on during that consultation. Wtf...

Point being $5 is a bargain to talk to someone that is specialized in seeing a lot of sick people over a considerable amount of years. Not sure how you're missing that reality altogether....

[singular_me]

OHL,

It's OK. We're good.
The forum is having some kind of glitch, thanks button doesn't seem to be working right now... your post deserves one.

Yes, Henny's throat problem is from when she was born, not acid related. As for me, the day the white coats get a shred of my time, money, or cooperation is going to be a very cold day in hell... I didn't go to them for a broken leg, I'm not about to go to them for cancer. I'm doing apricot kernals, and watching my diet.

Be well,
-Gaillo

ooh, although I am very sorry to read this, I am now glad to have posted this ayurvedic medicine video...

[Sparky]

The article says he sees patients 7 days a week.


250 x 7 = $1750/week

1750 x 4 = $7000/month

7000 x 50 = $350,000/year

350,000 x 35 = $12,250,000 over the last 35 years. (it says he adopted his $5 rate in the 1970s)


Maybe it doesn't take that much to run a small practice. It really shows you the depths to which we have been conditioned to expect medical services to be expensive.

Your math mistakenly assumes 250 patients per day, which is virtually impossible. As madfranks points out, 50 per day would be a high estimate. So your annual salary is off by a factor of 5. More likely his revenue is $50-$70K per year. Taking into account his overhead, that's not much at all.

[JDRock]

OHL,

It's OK. We're good.
The forum is having some kind of glitch, thanks button doesn't seem to be working right now... your post deserves one.

Yes, Henny's throat problem is from when she was born, not acid related. As for me, the day the white coats get a shred of my time, money, or cooperation is going to be a very cold day in hell... I didn't go to them for a broken leg, I'm not about to go to them for cancer. I'm doing apricot kernals, and watching my diet.

Be well,
-Gaillo

OHL is BANNED?? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF???

[freespirit]

OHL is BANNED?? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF???


...at her request, JDR...check board comm. section...