Just some thoughts on dealing with a Police Dog that's been released on YOU

[General of Darkness]

First off, knowledge is power. Police dogs are trained in German so there are some basic commands or words you should know. Police dogs are generally washouts from Schutzhund because they're obedience sucked, dog aggression, they couldn't out or a whole slew of other problems. If I wasn't emotionally attached to Enzo, I'd wash him out because he's a fucking punk.

So back to the point of this thread.

What I WOULD DO if a police dog is COMING AT ME. I would SCREAM THESE WORDS. Long and loud.

DOWN = PLATZ
OUT = AUS (kinda sounds like ouse)
HEAL = FOOSE

The reason I'm telling you this is that it's MY belief that dogs only know ON and OFF, and don't know the difference between reality and training. During training they'll have the "helper", and he might yell at them AUS etc. So it's possible to scream at a the dog to down/platz, and before he bites you to out/aus they might stop and get confused but when you run, those fuckers are coming. So if you get them to platz, and it gives you time to think about that pipe around the corner so that when you run, you grab it and can deal with the dog. You hit that dog in the center of the head, it confused them, stuns them and then you run some more.

So lets say a dogs does grab you. If it's on the forearm, you'll be in major pain, but you lift that forearm to your chest so you can kick that fucker as hard as you can in the chest with the point of your foot in the midsection. You'll fuck them up. Most really hard dogs might not release on the first kick, so you might have to do it few times. If it gets to that point and that dog releases, he's not going to chase you anymore.

The whole reason for dogs in the Police force etc is to protect ZOG's troopers. They don't know anything other than their training. It sucks but I'm about as emotionally attached to their dogs as I am to the Korean liquor store on the corner.

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[vacuum]

I always thought about letting the dog bite my left forearm then grabbing it's throat with my right hand.

[General of Darkness]

I always thought about letting the dog bite my left forearm then grabbing it's throat with my right hand.

Doing that will only piss them off, a kick in the under body will produce mass pain. Think about yourself. Imagine someone grabbing your throat how that would irritate you versus a size 20 with the point of a shoe kicking you in the stomach, would that make you stop fighting?

[vacuum]

I was thinking if I could get my fingers around the trachea I could cut off air flow. Don't know how that would work out.

I'm not sure if I could get a good kick on it with it at a close/weird angle and if I had something like sneakers on.

[Cebu_4_2]

Just pretend your a LEO and go on with it.

[vacuum]

Wow, we had the exact same discussion about 5 months ago.
The general consensus from people that had raised dogs, (Rotty's and Grate Dane's for my family) was that:
1. DO NOT LET YOURSELF BE PULLED TO THE GROUND FOR ANY REASON. I don't care if the dog is actually tearing your foot from your leg. Better the foot than the throat.
2. Giving a large dog your arm may very likely result in a broken arm. Live with it.
3. This sounds crazy but it really does work, scold the dog. You know, yell "bad dog" and "no" allot. Most dogs have some kind of domestication and this kind of thing still gets to them.
4. DO NOT RUN. Unless you know FOR SURE you will outrun the dog. Chasing is instictual for a dog. Running lets the dog know that you are prey.
5. Find a weapon. Use it on the dog as hard as you can. Absolutely no mercy. Dogs, as well as most other predatory animals, have an amazing ability to shrug off pain. My mother actually shot one of our dogs right between the eyes from less than 10' away with at 273 hunting rifle. The dog barely blinked. He was killing a neighbors goat. He didn't even pause when he was shot. He didn't let go until my dad came out and told him to heal.
6. If all else fails, shove your hand down the dogs throat and keep it there. Be aware that you could very likely end up with a broken arm trying this. Again, live with it.
Just think of punching down it's throat.

All of this applies to big dogs. If a dog is terrier sized then don't be too affraid. You might get snipped, but just kick the sh!t out of it and if it tries to jump pick it up and throw it.


I think Maxim did an article about this occurence a few months ago. Jon Perkins, a retired police officer and forensics expert said to wrap a jacket around around your arm and hold it out to him, away from your body. The dog, in most cases, will clamp onto whichever arm is offered. Then, start kicking its testicles and stomp on its paws while using your other hand to jam your fingers into its eyes.


I was attacked by a retired police dog once. Trained attack dogs are the worst BY FAR...they use stealth. This dog walked up to me like nothing was going on and when it got up to me, it looked up at me (just for a second) like it wanted to be my friend, then it jumped up on my chest and tried to wrap it's mouth around my throat. The dog only barked ONCE..when it was snapping for my throat! I put my chin down REALLY QUICK..which saved me, but I got my face bit. I still have a scar on my chin. The owner apologized, etc.
My foster dad was attacked by a german sheppard also, once. The dog charged, grabbed his arm, and tried to drag him down. He turned his wrist and worked his fist down the dogs throat. He grabbed the back of the dog's neck with his other hand so the dog wouldn't get away (otherwise it could mount another attack). He worked his hand down it's throat, then laid on it on the ground until the dog was dead.


My brother worked as a dog trainer for awhile and specialized in training attack dogs, mostly Rottweilers. From this, I am educated on the subject of fighting dogs (although I've never had to put this technique to use personnally, I've heard it's the best way).
First, let's assume that we're talking doberman-rottweiler-pitbull(God Forbid)-alsasian etc. and not lap rats.
First of all, if you're wearing a thin little t-shirt and shorts in the summer and a dog is on his way to take you down, you're ****ed.
If the season calls for heavier clothing, you're in luck.
1-While staring down the dog and slowly backing off, take you're jacket or shirt off and quickly wrap it around your arm.
2-Since attack dogs are trained to bite down on the first part of the body that comes close to it's face, offer out your wrapped arm making sure that your hand is tunred in toward you so that he doesn't grab that.
3-Once the dog has a grip on your arm (let's hope you were wearing leather in the case of a pitbull!) keep pushing forward with that same arm so that the dog feels resistance there only and is not inclined to choose another place to bite and use your index finger and thumb to gouge the *******s eyes out. Stick your thunmb in as far as you can, you will hit a section of the brain (the section they used to take out in a lobotomy) that will cause the dog to lose his motor skills in the jaw.
4- Make sure the dogs owner didn't see you when you take off running, completely grossed out wih what you just did...


there are a few things to do here when fighting dogs....
i've dealt with my own so i speak with some intelligence...

1) when the situation arises turn towards the dag and look it in the eyes.. but keep moving away. reason? prey doesn't look at the dog, it runs.
2) if the dog jumps up on you to bite your or which they will usually do, as it is jumping raise your knee up and hit it in the chest hard!!!
3) if for any reason it gets ahold of you, reach down grab it y its snout and pinch its lips between the dogs teeth and your fingers... this will cause great pain! and the dog will allmost instantly let go of your arm keep this hold until you can make sure the dog will not pursue you anymore.
4) in the drastic case that the lip pinching doesn't work. in order to kill the dog try punching it in the throat. or grabbing the throad and choking the dog.

as far as dog kung fu goes.... hehehehe i get to learn it. its part of my training.

http://forum.kungfumagazine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2674


Personally, I have been attacked by a dog only twice in my life. Where I'm from, lots of people keep dogs for protection and there are some strays also. The key to defending yourself against a dog is first realizing that you will not walk away unscathed. You will get bit, you will bleed, and you'll probably need stitches. Thats why, whether or not you can successfully defeat a dog attack, you should always try to avoid (ie. if there is a fence, jump it and avoid the attack, etc.)

Second, you have to realize that dogs do not have pride or ego and once they are actually hurt, will most of the time back off.

Third, know a dog's weaknesses. They are very susceptible to being kicked in the throat or ribs, which are generall their weakest points. Quadrapeds tend to have weak abdomens because they do not rely on abdominal muscles for stability.

Fourth, you cannot be afraid. Everyone has apprehension when a dog attacks, but if you are genuinely afraid, you have no chance. The slightest hesitation will cost you a limb and maybe your life. You have to go forward at the dog and attack back, not simply defend.

The first time I was attacked by a dog (probably about a 60 lbs dog - mutt), I was 14 and got really bit up and a neighbor came to my rescue. I got stitches in 4 different places, but was more scared then anything; basically in shock.

The second time I was attacked by a dog (probably about an 80 lbs dog - rotweiler), I was 23. This time, i remembered what happened the last time when I tried to back away and defend, so I went on the attack. As soon as the dog charged at me to bite, I went forward as well and kicked him as hard as I could under his jaw/neck. That backed him off for a second, so i kept coming forward, kicking the dog with soccer kicks anywhere they would land. Eventually, it backed off and left me alone. *Note, i was never bit, but still had several cuts on my legs from his teeth because dogs move in very unpredictable ways.

If youre not afraid of the dog, you'll have a good chance of doing well should you be attacked. I wouldn't try grabbing the dog unless you are well trained because that will only allow the dog closer proximity to your neck or anything else it wants to bite, and all it takes, even if you grabbed it and are in control, is one wiggle for the dog to free itself and bite. I wouldnt take that chance.

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