Who Rewrote the Bible? Dr. Lorraine Day on Spingola

[PatColo]

Great 81 min comm. free podcast, mostly dealing with Dr. Day's new book, "Who Rewrote the Bible? How and Why The Translators Have Deceived the Whole World by Deliberately Changing the Truth of the Bible (http://www.drday.com/who_rewrote_bible.htm)"

Some of the discussion of the first ~15 mins about the truth of many Bible characters, lost me coz I plead utter ignorance. But after that it gets lively until the end! Day is a historical revisionist, close friend of Ernst Zundel and other notable revisionists. So, WHO do you guess Day suggests rewrote the Bible? :D

Day's a cancer survivor, 75yo now and claims excellent health.

Spingola Speaks 2012.08.27 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/08/spingola-speaks-20120827.html)



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The definition of the word Gospel is Good News! If the Gospel is, indeed, Good News, then it should easily be identifiable as such by both Christians and non-Christians. Unfortunately, the message of the churches – that some will be saved but most will be tortured in hellfire forever or at least for some period of time – is definitely not Good News. Therefore, a re-examination of what the Bible really teaches about the salvation of humanity is long overdue.


Obviously there has been some mistake somewhere, and it turns out that the translators are responsible, and pastors and Bible scholars are complicit in this travesty - partners in crime, if you will - by blindly embracing the erroneous translations.




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If God tells us to LOVE our enemies, why is He going to DESTROY His enemies in hellfire?


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Can Satan do anything if God does not allow it? If God allows it, is it God’s will?


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Who is responsible for sin existing in this world? If the answer is Satan, then why didn’t God prevent it? Or is Satan equal with God?


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If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?


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How is God going to “wipe away all your tears” if your loved ones are burning in hellfire?


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Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)

[undgrd]

I'm about halfway though. The good doctor mentions a list of reasons why people get cancer. She basically blames the folks who get cancer because of diet and stress they internalize. Does she ever explain how/why children die of cancer?

[StreetsOfGold]

I'll give this a listen to later but I already have a critism.

The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever written is long gone. There are ONLY copies and translations available. So this woman is already trying to "con" the unlearned by implying something exists, which doesn't. There are various fragments, minuscules (cursives), and manuscripts (NOT "ORIGINALS) available but, I repeat, NO "Original manuscripts". She is being deceptive in using this phrase. This same phrase (repeated) and used in "Bible" schools for decades that have been inflitrated by Jesuits to introduce the Alexandrian school of thought that the "oldest and best" (meaning the Roman Catholic) manuscripts are closest to the "originals". Of course, this is shear unadulterated baloney.

If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?
Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)

[Nomoss]

Just one ? Who where the Jesuits.
Thanks for the link PatColo

[PatColo]

Just one ? Who where the Jesuits.
Thanks for the link PatColo

this guy's into the Jesuits being the top, with the rothschild zio's serving at their pleasure (their "accountants" o)(~)-- says the J's did the Biblical mal-translating:
Thread: Who Really Owns Your Gold, & the Planned Econ Meltdown (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63207-Who-Really-Owns-Your-Gold-amp-the-Planned-Econ-Meltdown)

but he's really not religious the way Day is.

Thanks also to Streets of Gold; that "original manuscripts" question was one I want to learn more about.

I expect either of you can email Dr. Day with good questions based on her radio interview- tell her you're thinking about buying her book but first wondering... :cool:

[skidmark]

The first Jesuits were crypto-Jews. Ignatius Loyola himself was a crypto-Jew of the Occult Cabala. A crypto-Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new religion, while secretly maintaining Jewish practices. As John Torell explains: "In 1491 San Ignacio de Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain. His parents were Marranos and at the time of his birth the family was very wealthy. As a young man he became a member of the Jewish Illuminati order in Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a Roman Catholic. On May 20, 1521 Ignatius (as he was now called) was wounded in a battle, and became a semi-cripple. Unable to succeed in the military and political arena, he started a quest for holiness and eventually ended up in Paris where he studied for the priesthood. In 1539 he had moved to Rome where he founded the "JESUIT ORDER," which was to become the most vile, bloody and persecuting order in the Roman Catholic Church. In 1540, the current Pope Paul III approved the order. At Loyola's death in 1556 there were more than 1000 members in the Jesuit order, located in a number of nations."

Ignatius of Loyola's secretary, Polanco, was of Jewish descent and was the only person present at Loyola's deathbed. James Lainez, who succeeded Loyola as the second Jesuit General, was also of Jewish descent. Jews were attracted to the Jesuit order and joined in large numbers. Lacunza was no exception. He was a Jew, which explains why he introduced the eschatological teaching of a return to the Jewish animal sacrifices during the Millennium. (In a book titled The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty published in 1812, 11 years after the death of its author, Jesuit Emanuel de Lacunza who, wrote under the fictitious pen name of a purportedly converted Jew, Rabbi Juan Josaphat Ben Ezra, in order to conceal his identity and to make his writings more palatable to the Protestant readers. He promoted the writings of sixteenth century Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera, developing a futuristic perspective which restricted the prophetic fulfillments in the book of Revelation to the end of the world). Lacunza also wrote that during a millennium after the tribulation the Jewish animal sacrifices would be reinstated along with the Eucharist (the mass) of the Catholic Church. Lacunza has followed after Jewish fables and replaced the commandments of God with the commandments of men. That doctrine gives the Jews primacy in God's plan and relegates Christians to a prophetic parenthetical to be supplanted by the Jews during the thousand year earthly reign of Christ.


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http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nl249.htm

[jimswift]

I reckon this could fit here, but one of my "white" customers brought me a gift today....and to my totally unsuspecting surprise :o

A "Complete Jewish Bible".

I just smiled and chuckled as she was trying to sell me on it.

Apparently she has been spending time with some rabbi and he's been explaining to her how "white people" stole the bible or something like that.

Didn't really know how to handle it. Just smiled and said thanks.

[MNeagle]

Another site by Dr. Day: www.goodnewsaboutgod.com

fabulous summary

Thanks again PC for the direction to her.

[Skirnir_]

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[singular_me]

I'll give this a listen to later but I already have a critism.

The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever written is long gone. There are ONLY copies and translations available. So this woman is already trying to "con" the unlearned by implying something exists, which doesn't. There are various fragments, minuscules (cursives), and manuscripts (NOT "ORIGINALS) available but, I repeat, NO "Original manuscripts". She is being deceptive in using this phrase. This same phrase (repeated) and used in "Bible" schools for decades that have been inflitrated by Jesuits to introduce the Alexandrian school of thought that the "oldest and best" (meaning the Roman Catholic) manuscripts are closest to the "originals". Of course, this is shear unadulterated baloney.

If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?
Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)

um-um... you already try to bias the audience.... allowing people to make up their own mind is essential... if there are NO original manuscripts, then maybe should you/one be less assertive when one/you refer(s) to the bible

personally I dont care about the originals... I dont believe in copyrights anyway, everything belongs to the Universe and goes back to IT. All religious texts were written by man anyway

[Serpo]

Yes I had to write my own bible ..........OO)~

interpret what was interpreted by who wrote it ???,then interpret from others that had their own interpretation>:( so then you can form your own interpretation :)**,which for all intents and purposes is probably a little bit off>:(.......after it goes through this processhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2835%29.gif

[Skirnir_]

...and Skirnir cast out the doltish general with flying rocks, unto him saying "Go fornicate thyself".

[singular_me]

Yes I had to write my own bible ..........OO)~

interpret what was interpreted by who wrote it ???,then interpret from others that had their own interpretation>:( so then you can form your own interpretation :)**,which for all intents and purposes is probably a little bit off>:(.......after it goes through this processhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2835%29.gif

Good reply... theologians and scholars still have bright days ahead fighting... the best way to interpret texts/allegories is to have a solid scientific knowledge. Thats why organized religions regards sciences as a threat. It is easier to agree on maths than "perceptions". I do believe in christ consciousness and it is all there in the Bible, remove all fear factors to understand what Christ exactly meant.

[messianicdruid]

...the best way to interpret texts/allegories is to have a solid scientific knowledge.

It seems to me a working knowledge of earlier writings from the same source and the types/principles presented there are more important than latter day scientific opinions which if truly scientific are subject to revision.

[singular_me]

It seems to me a working knowledge of earlier writings from the same source and the types/principles presented there are more important than latter day scientific opinions which if truly scientific are subject to revision.

make sense to me... and I agree that we cant trust mainstream sciences/academia that much or at all. THOUGH, physicists like Walter Russel, have almost deciphered it all already, unfortunately their works are arent taught in high schools and colleges. I sincerely encourage anyone to read "the universal one" or "the secret of light"... it will blow your mind. Buckminster Fuller is also a great author in my view. Not to mention Viktor Schauberger and Wilhelm Reich, Tesla etc... I dont read mainstream scientific books anymore.

[Horn]

The introduction and timeline creation of the New Testament along with adoption of the Old is congruent with TPTB manipulation.

Appreciate Day's words on the "search" for Truth, as it's already founded.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Certain stories contained in the bible have been found carved into rock tablets of Sumeria, aspects of the biblical story are older than the bible. That is proven.

In the bible you have essentially a gatekeeper omitting certain parts of history for you, councils of rich men, TPTB of their day, sat around deciding what would and what would not make it into the bible....under the guise of some of it being true and some it being untrue...They were really just deciding how much of their original source to include.

[steyr_m]

The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever writ

If Jesus was resurrected on Sunday, why aren’t the words “Sunday” or “first day of the week” found anywhere in any of the original manuscripts of the Bible?
Why have the words “Jew” and “Gentile” been written into the Bible erroneously. (They aren’t found in the original Bible manuscripts.)

I'm just guessing; but maybe that the oldest surviving manuscripts are probably more reflective to the originals than what is around today, and she's going by that.

[singular_me]

Certain stories contained in the bible have been found carved into rock tablets of Sumeria, aspects of the biblical story are older than the bible. That is proven.

sumeria is very enlightening to say the least, the cradle of Mesopotamia.... religions have a lot more in common than many would think of. They all approach the subjects from different angles but the bottom line is still very similar.


In the bible you have essentially a gatekeeper omitting certain parts of history for you, councils of rich men, TPTB of their day, sat around deciding what would and what would not make it into the bible....under the guise of some of it being true and some it being untrue...They were really just deciding how much of their original source to include.

400 years to write the first bible.... says it all. The message is well diluted but still there.

[Gaillo]

Yes I had to write my own bible ..........OO)~

interpret what was interpreted by who wrote it ???,then interpret from others that had their own interpretation>:( so then you can form your own interpretation :)**,which for all intents and purposes is probably a little bit off>:(.......after it goes through this processhttp://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/300%20%2835%29.gif

Wow! For a minute there, I thought I was reading a post by the Duck! ;D

[MAGNES]

Thanks for the OP Pat, I will definitely look at this.
I'll give this a listen to later but I already have a critism. The following 2 points listed (below) are already erroneous. Why? Becuase there is NO SUCH THING as the "original manuscripts" Every "original" ever written is long gone. There are ONLY copies and translations available. So this woman is already trying to "con" the unlearned by implying something exists, which doesn't. There are various fragments, minuscules (cursives), and manuscripts (NOT "ORIGINALS) available but, I repeat, NO "Original manuscripts". She is being deceptive in using this phrase. This same phrase (repeated) and used in "Bible" schools for decades that have been inflitrated by Jesuits to introduce the Alexandrian school of thought that the "oldest and best" (meaning the Roman Catholic) manuscripts are closest to the "originals". Of course, this is shear unadulterated baloney. A lot of your posts on here regarding The Roman Catholic Church are beyond baloney, crazy and inflamatory, we have discussed translations on here numerous times with exact names of works and their history, people like you are not students and do not care to learn, you have some sort of agenda on here. I'm done repeating myself, in general, trolls on here will just repeat nonsense without learning and studying, don't care to learn, real sources, issues. In the 2 plus years we have been here with noobs and known people going back to GIM this is more apparent as each day passes. Someone on here will tell me I am religious or a Christian posting about historical aspects, about translations, history, how it works, others on here will do the exact opposite and say, " you are not a Christian ", I am not in the middle of these two comments coming from different sides. People study the OT for historical purposes, not just religious, and I am no fan of the OT, the NT, that is where Christianity comes from, these bible thumping OTers lose me totally, you never see them outing the Jews for one, they seem to hate Europeans, European History, and do a good job of making Christians look bad, they play the role of dividers real good, ignore much of the related history I posted on here, deliberately clueless, they play dividers, many " protestants" play this role it seems, Anty Ep years ago was right about this, how Jews promoted it as division in Europe, exacerbating divisions, I always thought the Reformation/CounterR were good things, how did it work out for England and that base used against the rest of us, Cromwell history ? , Anty Ep was the giant of GIM, put us on to much of this hidden history.
I'm just guessing; but maybe that the oldest surviving manuscripts are probably more reflective to the originals than what is around today, and she's going by that. I count 5 trolls above on this issue regarding Christianity, OT, translations, maybe you can find my posts going back to translations, history of OT, and a more recent thread where we did it again, Awoke was involved and JohnQ, recently I got a couple of OT's, Awoke and I were in PM discussing this and sharing, buying books, links , etc, without speaking to line by line details of translations, translations have numerous issues, just reading classics you understand this clearly, this is always an issue, and discussed regularly, why would it be different for any work, the KJV has the most serious even though it's language is more poetic than some " more accurate translations " , here is what I am talking about, take the most original, invent a new " hebrew" language, Invent, yes, translate to that, nobody read or spoke "hebrew" it was a dead and lost language, think about that one, at about the same time the Kaballah and Talmud were written down, it's all Rabbi's, then from that OT in the new invented language, translate to older English, meanwhile the most original transcripts that went to " hebrew " exist, the main point of the exercise for me is to see what has changed where it is important, seeing the Jews have an agenda for us, this task is tuff for just a casual reader, you need direction, hence good OP and why we need someone like MJK on here. " White Nationalists " have been looking at this for years. I started this study on their forums. Ask anyone here to give you a history of the OT, and they will not do it, they don't care to know it, only Magnes has ever given it to you, why, because it pisses everyone off except the students of history, the Jews, the Christians, the OT thumpers especially, the Europeans even who don't like Christians like many Nordics. Jews actively lie about how the OT was created, mostly by omission, lead people to make assumptions, that is what I find the most interesting, they hate the Greeks and the Ptolemies and target them, posters on here do the same. This post is messed up and I banged it off quickly. Here's a simple exercise, go to amazon and look up OT's and NT's and the different versions, translations, have a look at the related books, read posts on amazon, I guarantee you that you will learn a lot just by doing this exercise, example, book " Learning NT Greek ", and that is the NT, one of the least problematic for translations relative to the OT and KJV. Be as student and do not rely on peoples posts on here.
Certain stories contained in the bible have been found carved into rock tablets of Sumeria, aspects of the biblical story are older than the bible. That is proven. In the bible you have essentially a gatekeeper omitting certain parts of history for you, councils of rich men, TPTB of their day, sat around deciding what would and what would not make it into the bible....under the guise of some of it being true and some it being untrue...They were really just deciding how much of their original source to include. Your comments are very general, I have related comments above, and in the past more detail a few times. About stories, different people live in the same region and suffer the same events, they record them, it does not mean that they are ripping each other off, but I believe that is the case in some instances, depends on the story. People back then were more advanced than we give them credit for, they knew of each other and traded with each other and spoke each others languages to be able to travel and trade the way they did, 1200 BC there was advanced trade in the Med/BlackSea, the Iliad is about this, civil war, control of the seas and trade, an earth changing event recorded by everyone triggers this, Philistines are involved, OT " Jews " record how they wanted to ripp off the Philistines, same time period, Ptolemies saw the original version of the OT as the " Jews " History/Mythology/Beliefs 300BC.

[iOWNme]

This is a great show that Patcolo posted...I urge all GSUS'ers to download and listen. Judaites v Jews v Israelites. Dr Day hits on a lot of the important issues surrounding the facts about who the real 'Jews' are. She goes into a lot of the background stories of the Bible, and the connections to today's lies that are promoted.

She goes on to prove that the people who are inhabiting the area of 'Israel' are not the real Judaites, and thus have no right to be there. They are imposters.

As usual, this is another top quality post by Patcolo........

[vacuum]

She does a great job at being a revisionist on the bible - looking at what the "original" scriptures say compared to how they are written in english. She does this through what's called an "interlinear bible". What she's discovered are several key things:

the concept of "hell" has been distorted. Generally that word isn't actually used where we see it in english translations
other qualities of God that show these harsh characteristics are distorted
the concept of "Jews" and "gentiles" doesn't appear in the bible. Rather, there are state/tribe designations (Judeans, etc) and gentiles are unbelievers. Jesus wasn't a "Jew"
Judaism only came into existence after Jesus' death

In my view, this is important, objective, research.

Maybe this is an off-topic issue, but she also seems to have the view that, once translated properly, these texts absolutely true and infallible. I don't know if she believes any other texts or books exist with the same status as divinely inspired works. I don't think I can accept that the bible is necessarily 100.00% true in every passage, or that it contains all truth/knowledge that is needed.

In other words, it appears that for her to be convinced of something, all that needs to happen is to be able to quote a passage from the bible, or piece together reasoning from different parts of it. I think instead we should look at everything out there. What about the Nag Hammadi library for example?

The problem with assuming that something is 100% true and divine is that it makes everything too complicated, and takes to many years of research, because every sentence is absolutely true. How to interpret it? Who translated it, and from what translation? What are the exact meaning of the words? Who wrote it, and when? How can one work be fully divine, but another work is decided not to be divine? There has to be some built-in fault tolerance on our part. We have to take the concepts and principles of these works as a stimulus for finding the truth from within ourselves.

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q_wDP-a9so&feature=related

[singular_me]

the concept of "hell" has been distorted. Generally that word isn't actually used where we see it in english translations
other qualities of God that show these harsh characteristics are distorted
the concept of "Jews" and "gentiles" doesn't appear in the bible. Rather, there are state/tribe designations (Judeans, etc) and gentiles are unbelievers. Jesus wasn't a "Jew"
Judaism only came into existence after Jesus' death

I will surely listen to it some time tomorrow, sounds compelling

I can see why Judaism had to be created as Christianity was set to take over. Problem, reaction, solution. Islam came into existence 600 years or so after the death of Christ. Lets gave a 3rd nemesis to control the populaces even further...


The problem with assuming that something is 100% true and divine is that it makes everything too complicated, and takes to many years of research, because every sentence is absolutely true. How to interpret it? Who translated it, and from what translation? What are the exact meaning of the words? Who wrote it, and when? How can one work be fully divine, but another work is decided not to be divine? There has to be some built-in fault tolerance on our part. We have to take the concepts and principles of these works as a stimulus for finding the truth from within ourselves.

It is sad that in 48 BC Julius Caesar accidentally burned the library down when he set fire to his own ships... how convenient. I am almost sure that many books escaped it but it allowed the PTB to remove them from the public and plot the next step.

when I see christian members on here disagreeing in this particular thread, I can only shake my head... I let them fight about which translators to believe. It is practically impossible to convince anyone to start with, as everybody has different perceptions of Reality due to his own life experiences. We cannot see, understand and speak alike, that is simple as that. Those who think it is achievable are commies in disguise. All we can do is exchanging our povs without trashing one another to get a picture of a "Greater Reality"... as you said, truth is within.

[beefsteak]

I'm about halfway though. The good doctor mentions a list of reasons why people get cancer. She basically blames the folks who get cancer because of diet and stress they internalize. Does she ever explain how/why children die of cancer?

Just spotted this weekend on her 183 Specific FAQs on her website, that she DID address this one. She lays the blame squarely on the mother and the obvious incubatory symbiosis of the fetus in the womb state with cancer being just one of the set ups post-partum.

Didn't say she dwelt on it, just that she mentioned it in passing, at least in the truncated "listen" link.


beefsteak

[Santa]

She seems like a very nice lady, and her opinions are just as important as yours or mine.

[beefsteak]

She seems like a very nice lady, and her opinions are just as important as yours or mine.

+1

I'll even go so far as to add, it was finally nice, after all these decades of my life, to hear some intelligent responses to my age old questions of my faith, where things just didn't line up right logically. Her statements came from her research. I'm glad she shared them. Even put them into print. 900 pages!!!!!! Makes me wonder what other goodies she noodled out courtesy of her focused research using her logic and interlinear texts.

Those of my generation were taught to "stuff it" or memorize and just do it, a pedagogy replete with all the attendant guilt, triggered when I'd fall short of the mark.

An example is the rote: Roman Road Routine. While I did memorize it and use it back in the day as I was trained to do, I always wondered about those who'd never heard of, Book of Romans, author Paul, or even Jehovah in the first place. Always seemed to me that Jehovah had an inherent responsibility to reach out first to the created ones (us) and our eternal destiny not dependent upon when we first learned of Jehovah's existance, let alone institutionalized religious practices.

Loved her extrapolation on the Hell schtick. Whattagal'


beefsteak

[PatColo]

Rev Ted Pike 1 hour talk, haven't listened yet, but description sounded like a good excuse to bump this thread ;)
find archives of his other talks here: http://www.truthtellers.org/biblicalanswers.html







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Is It Bad To Have So Many Denominations In Christianity?
Roman Catholics consider the Protestant Reformation a disaster: it took spiritual authority from the ecclesiastical successors of St. Peter and gave it to all who claim to be "born again."


As such, Catholics deplore the proliferation of denominations within Protestantism. They assert such fragmentation and debate within Christ's body, the church, cannot possibly be the will of God.


Is diversification of the church into denominations ungodly? In this Bible study, we will consider—and resolve, this issue which, even for many Protestants, is troubling.








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[singular_me]

...I urge all GSUS'ers to download and listen. Judaites v Jews v Israelites. Dr Day hits on a lot of the important issues surrounding the facts about who the real 'Jews' are.

being so busy doing fall property clean-ups these days I kept postponing but yesterday I finally did listen... while what she says about Israel, Judaism and Judaites is truly compelling, and although I like to hear from other sources before making up my mind, I believe that Dr Day picture to be quite accurate.

here is something that many of you will for sure find interesting: 15 years or so ago I wrote a screenplay about Hatshepsut (which I almost sold Phoenix Pictures a few months before 911), the only female pharaoh, and whose father Thutmose I spent many years of his reign to fight the Hyksos and eventually expelled them for good. My research about the latter (at the time) seems to indicate that they were hebrew ancestors so to speak. And this could corroborate the fact that the terms jew and judaism didnt exist back then: I am speaking of more or less 1500 BC. However listening to Dr Day helped me connect a few dots.


The historian Josephus maintains that the Hyksos were in fact the children of Jacob who joined his son Joseph to escape the famine in the land of Canaan.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos



She goes into a lot of the background stories of the Bible, and the connections to today's lies that are promoted.

That was highly captivating as I also have always felt that God is incapable of extortion as all He is Love. It is failing to understand this that causes evil. So it has to be a man made threat. Dont believe much here in "poor translations", sorry. Interesting to hear that the definition of "Hell" came much later, that it wasnt originally in the Bible. She also states that Christianity is not a religion at some point, does not seek to convert, that it is for people who already believe. If Christians on here had the same approach, all the fights in the religious forum would have been avoided. I feel perfectly in tune with what she says about the Bible - and more importantly Christ. This is for sure something the theosophists have always known. Going that road is a "no go" on GSUS, unless one takes the risk to be called a troll and an worshiper of evil. Good job at ostracizing the truth, Id say.

I truly recommend this interview, give it a 4 star rating (out of 5)

while we truly have a zionist threat to resolve worldwide, what intrigues me highly is HOW they were able to accumulate so much influence throughout the centuries. I am sure it is rooted in religion/esotericism, not only economics... and when that will be exposed, all organized religions may well collapse. And right fully so, the more the occult is being revealed, in the end the more we have to be careful what we wish for.

[MNeagle]

I bought the book, & have skimmed much of it. One magor drawback imo, no index. But she seems to have done her research (17 years worth iirc) during her struggles with health issues to 'find the answer'.

Something to keep in mind on how they were able to manipulate so many of the populace, is that the great majority were illerate. So they relied only on the stories that came from the élders' in the synagogue, or through oral history w/in the family. Then, the invention of the printing press, & distribution of the Gutenburg Bible & increased literacy helped awaken many.

Go Martin Luther!

[Canadian-guerilla]

I bought the book, & have skimmed much of it. One magor drawback imo, no index. But she seems to have done her research (17 years worth iirc) during her struggles with health issues to 'find the answer'.

Something to keep in mind on how they were able to manipulate so many of the populace, is that the great majority were illerate. So they relied only on the stories that came from the élders' in the synagogue, or through oral history w/in the family. Then, the invention of the printing press, & distribution of the Gutenburg Bible & increased literacy helped awaken many.

Go Martin Luther!

my pet theory

when Gutenberg started printing bibles
the influential jews ( at the time ) decided to " edit " parts of the bible for the benefit of future jews

"He who blesses Israel will be blessed and he who curses Israel will be cursed."

[PatColo]

'nother good Spingola interview today,

Spingola Speaks 2013.01.08 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/spingola-speaks-20130108.html)

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Guest: Charles E. Carlson (http://www.charlesecarlson.com/) talked about the evils and prevalence of Christian Zionism, the idea of the state of Israel is the fulfillment of prophecy and is ordained of God. Christianity is about following the teaching of Christ.

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[Glass]

from what I can tell so far in my research the bible has 4 layers of comprehension to it. I believe there are more but these ones I'm confident are identifiable.

1) literal interpretation of the words as they are written on paper - I estimate about 90% of people are here regardless of their spiritual persuasion
2) allegorical presentation of themes and concepts associated with law and contracts also messmerism and homeopathy. Jesus is illustrated as being a practitioner of both of these and many more hidden mystery skills.
3) numerology concepts associated with astrology and divination
4) kabalistic and masonic information coded into the book that tie in with a range of hidden mysteries including sorcery (pharmacology), homeopathy, mathematics of a couple flavours, mesmerism, divination, sacrifice procedures and other occulted material.

Jesus sending the evil spirits into swine is an example of mesmerism. Raising the dead is an example of homeopathy as is curing the sick. The dead being not actually dead but comatose. In those days coma's resulted in death because there was no means to sustain people in coma's as there is these days. This ability to bring people out of coma's was revered as being the performance of a miracle.

The allegory of the fishes and the bread is a description of alchemy which is the art of "increasing that which exists" not the creation of something from nothing.

There are also tie in's between information in the book and other sources. For instance the number of souls saved in Revelations has an exact tie in with the speed of light. The dimensions of Noahs ark, likewise have mathematical tie in's with the physics of Earths magnetic fields.

There is a huge amount of information in the bible as published however much of it is hidden in plain sight.

[Cebu_4_2]

For instance the number of souls saved in Revelations has an exact tie in with the speed of light. The dimensions of Noahs ark, likewise have mathematical tie in's with the physics of Earths magnetic fields.

What do you make of this?

[BarnkleBob]

It appears ALL life on Earth began thru the "panspermia" process... which means that all religious concepts & ideas are man-made & not inspired by any creator being...

[messianicdruid]

There is a huge amount of information in the bible as published however much of it is hidden in plain sight.

http://www.whatabeginning.com/Misc/Wonders/P.htm

My favorite question: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/if-god-could-save-everyone-would-he/chapter-1-if-god-could-save-everyone-would-he/

Lots of good reading: http://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/teachings/books/

[Glass]

What do you make of this?

So far only what I have been talking about here:

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?65285-Harmonics-animal-magnetism-and-messmerism&highlight=harmonics

I haven't gotten much further with Cathies work. I've been reading a bit of stuff about the hidden mysteries (occult stuff) from Manly P Hall and also Elyphas Levi(?) not sure if thats the right spelling.

I have a couple of ideas percolating but I want to talk to a few people with technical and mathematical expertise who well ahead of my abilities.

I believe if you can hit the right harmonic frequency of vibration in an object it will become "lighter than air". Thats a very simplified statement. We have seen experiments posted here showing things being subject to electro magnetic influences and seeing them rise up of the table or ground as if weightless. I think there are possibly several ways this could be achieved. Some require mechanical/electrical means and others might not.

For me, the idea of being in harmony with one's world is taking on a different kind of meaning at the moment.

[Horn]

I believe if you can hit the right harmonic frequency of vibration in an object it will become "lighter than air"

Ice Cream Cone Engines?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxJkQ3mJ3I

[BarnkleBob]

Eliphas Levi is just another Vatican lie to prevent the questioners from discovering the truth!

[PatColo]

new podcast here, "Christian Identity" leader Eli James, and organized-religion-skeptic Charles Giuliani- 2 hrs, 28 MBs,


The Realist Report with John Friend 2013.01.28 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_28.html)



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On this edition of the Realist Report, Pastor Eli James of Anglo-Saxon Israel (http://www.anglo-saxonisrael.com/) and Charlie Giuliani of Truth Hertz Radio (http://oraclebroadcasting.com/archives.php?who=truth_hertz) will join us for a debate about Christianity. I have interviewed Pastor James and Giuliani in the past, and think they both make valid points about Christianity that are worth discussing. Is Christianity a Jewish creation meant to psychologically enslave the gullible Goyim? Or, has mainstream organized Christianity been hijacked and subverted by organized Jewry? Is Christianity an asset or liability in our struggle against organized Jewish interests and their agenda to corrupt and dominate the globe? These and other issues relating to Christianity, it’s history, basic tenets, and spiritual texts will be addressed. Join us for what will surely be an interesting and lively discussion!

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[Neuro]

Ice Cream Cone Engines?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FxJkQ3mJ3I
I don't think you can get more energy from those than you put in, but I think you could make a pretty cool bicycle, without a chain transmission, upon the principles that ice cream cone engine is based...

[PatColo]

new podcast here, "Christian Identity" leader Eli James, and organized-religion-skeptic Charles Giuliani- 2 hrs, 28 MBs,


The Realist Report with John Friend 2013.01.28 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_28.html)

^ I've since listened, lively indeed, mostly smoke not much light (Eli & Charles often speaking over each other), but at the end they agree it's djooz.

Charles G's show today, haven't listened yet,
Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2013.01.29 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_29.html)


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Charles talks about last night's debate with Eli James on John Friend' show (http://grizzom.blogspot.ca/2013/01/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_28.html).
Hour two: Jehovah's Witnesses part 3.
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[Barbaro]

"Who Rewrote the Bible? How and Why The Translators Have Deceived the Whole World by Deliberately Changing the Truth of the Bible"

The bible was a fairly tale to begin with. Edited and altered many many times, even after Jesus checked out.

No surprise this fairly tale of lifted stories has been altered again.

[messianicdruid]

There are many counterfeit stories out there, but you should realize the Great Counterfeiter {liar} is the one who profits most from them. Cui Bono is, I think, how they explain this.

The truth must be experienced personally to be appreciated, then the fakes become obvious. Cherished delusions are not limited to the faithful.

There are many false spirits gone out into the world {system}. Try {test} the spirits whether they be of God. Or don't, if lies are good enough for your indiscrimination.

[PatColo]

Rev. Ted Pike has these couple articles posted about raising Christian & properly anti-Shlomoic children:


15 Apr 13 - Can Anti-Zionist Education Save Us? (http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/Can_AntiZionist_Education_Save_Us.html)
9 Apr 13 - How to Create Anti-Zionist Christian Youth (http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/How_to_Create_AntiZionist_Christian_Youth.html)

[PatColo]

John Friend's blog:

Great Western leaders vs. Jews on Christianity, Jesus Christ (http://www.john-friend.net/2013/04/great-western-leaders-vs-jews-on.html)




What did some of the greatest Western leaders in history say about Christianity and Jesus Christ? What follows is a small sampling.


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"They are [Jefferson's Bible and thoughts on Jesus Christ] the result of a life of inquiry and reflection, and very different from that Anti-Christian system imputed to me by those who know nothing of my opinions. To the corruptions of christianity I am indeed opposed; but not to the genuine precepts of Jesus himself. I am a Christian in the only sense in which he wished any one to be; sincerely attached to his doctrines, in preference to all others; ascribing to himself every human excellence, and believing he never claimed any other. [...]

I, too, have made a wee-little book from the same materials (The Gospels) which I call the Philosophy of Jesus. It is a paradigma of his doctrines, made by cutting the texts out of the book and arranging them on the pages of a blank book, in a certain order of time or subject. A more beautiful or precious morsel of ethics I have never seen. It is a document in proof that I am a REAL CHRISTIAN, that is to say, a disciple of the doctrines of Jesus, very different from the Platonists, who call ME infidel and THEMSELVES Christians and preachers of the Gospel, while they draw all their characteristic dogmas from what its author never said nor saw. They have compounded from the heathen mysteries a system beyond the comprehension of man, of which the great reformer of the vicious ethics and deism of the Jews, were he to return on earth, would not recognize one feature."

- Thomas Jefferson, writing to Mr. Charles Thompson, quote directly from The Jefferson Bible (http://www.amazon.com/The-Jefferson-Bible-Morals-Nazareth/dp/1604591285)

"The general principles, on which the Fathers achieved independence, were the only Principles in which that beautiful Assembly of young Gentlemen could Unite, and these Principles only could be intended by them in their address, or by me in my answer. And what were these general Principles? I answer, the general Principles of Christianity, in which all these Sects were United: And the general Principles of English and American Liberty, in which all those young Men United, and which had United all Parties in America, in Majorities sufficient to assert and maintain her Independence.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L-ZCPIZNobc/UX4mOd8yn8I/AAAAAAAABQY/5uGMsgyg9C4/s320/Founding+Fathers.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-L-ZCPIZNobc/UX4mOd8yn8I/AAAAAAAABQY/5uGMsgyg9C4/s1600/Founding+Fathers.jpg)Now I will avow, that I then believe, and now believe, that those general Principles of Christianity, are as eternal and immutable, as the Existence and Attributes of God; and that those Principles of Liberty, are as unalterable as human Nature and our terrestrial, mundane System."

- John Adams wrote this (http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm) on June 28, 1813, excerpt from a letter to Thomas Jefferson

"Here is my Creed. I believe in one God, the Creator of the Universe. That He governs it by His Providence. That He ought to be worshipped.

That the most acceptable service we render to him is in doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.
As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, is the best the world ever saw, or is likely to see; [...]"

- Benjamin Franklin wrote this (http://christianity.about.com/od/independenceday/a/foundingfathers.htm) in a letter to Ezra Stiles, President of Yale University on March 9, 1790

"The movement steadfastly refuses to take up any stand in regard to those problems which are either outside of its sphere of political work or seem to have no fundamental importance for us. It does not aim at bringing about a religious reformation, but rather a political reorganization of our people. It looks upon the two religious denominations as equally valuable mainstays for the existence of our people, and therefore it makes war on all those parties which would degrade this foundation, on which the religious and moral stability of our people is based, to an instrument in the service of party interests."

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (http://mk.christogenea.org/hitlerchristian)


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"His life [the Jew] is of this world only and his mentality is as foreign to the true spirit of Christianity as his character was foreign to the great Founder of the new creed two thousand years ago. The Founder of Christianity made no secret of His estimation of the Jewish people; when He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God, because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. At that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews, whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics, and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation."

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf (http://mk.christogenea.org/hitlerchristian)

THE CREED OF NATIONAL-CHRISTIAN SOCIALISM: "I believe in the one and undivided Romanian State, from Dniester to the Tisa, the holder of all Romanians and only of Romanians, lover of work, honor and in fear of God, concerned about the country and its people; giver of equal rights, both civil and political, to men and to women; protector of the family, paying its public servants and workers on the basis of the number of children and the work performed, quality and quantity; and in a State, supporter of social harmony through minimizing of class differences; and in addition to salaries, nationalizing factories (the property of all workers) and distributing the land among all the ploughmen. [...]

I believe in one Sacred Christian Church with priests living the Gospel and for the Gospel, and who would, like the apostles, sacrifice themselves for the enlightenment of many."

- Romanian nationalist leader Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, quote from For My Legionaries (http://www.amazon.com/My-Legionaries-Iron-Guard/dp/1593640005)

"There should be no subject in this country that we're afraid to discuss - especially when it impinges on the security of the United States of America and the White Christian people of the whole world!"

“I don't believe in democracy. In the second place, neither did our white forefathers. I believe, as they did, in a republican authoritarian republic with a limited electorate -- just like the one the writers of our Constitution meant this country to be. When these White Christian patriots sat down to write the Declaration of Independence, there were no black citizens for them to worry about.”

- George Lincoln Rockwell (http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/George_Lincoln_Rockwell_quotes), founder of the American Nazi Party

________



Now compare the quotes above with what various Jews and Jewish texts have had to say about Christianity and Jesus Christ.

"The Jew is not content to dechristianize, he Judaizes; he destroys Christian beliefs; he provokes religious indifference, but he also imposes on those whose faith he destroys, his own concept of the world, of morality, and of human life; he labors at the age-old task - the destruction of the religion of Christ."

- Jewish author Bernard Lazare (http://www.colchestercollection.com/titles/chunk/H/hidden-power/chapter19.html)


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Piss Christ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ): Jesus Christ submerged in urine and blood.
The Jews love this type of "art" and constantly
malign Jesus Christ and his message.



"The Communists are against religion (Christianity), and they seek to destroy religion; yet, when we look deeper into the nature of Communism, we see that it is essential nothing else than a religion (Judaism)."

- A Program for the Jews and Humanity (http://archive.org/stream/AProgramForJewsAndHumanity#page/n69/mode/2up/search/communists+against+religion), Rabbi Harry Waton


“I saw the revolutionary destruction of society as the one and only solution to the cultural contradictions of the epoch.... Such a worldwide overturning of values cannot take place without the annihilation of the old values (Christianity) and the creation of new ones by the revolutionaries.”

- Radical Jewish intellectual Georg Lukacs (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=552)

"I hope the Jews did kill Christ. I'd do it again, I'd fucking do it again in a second."

- Jewish "comedian" Sarah Silverman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyDPxNhPGJo)

"Fundamentally Judaism is Anti-Christian."

- The Jewish World, March 15, 1923

Truth About the Talmud: Judaism's Holiest Book

(http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html)
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions. [...]

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement." [...]

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U10yvBoDDlk/UX4k2lAP6zI/AAAAAAAABQM/qtLruIPLUzA/s320/Jesus+in+the+Talmud.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U10yvBoDDlk/UX4k2lAP6zI/AAAAAAAABQM/qtLruIPLUzA/s1600/Jesus+in+the+Talmud.jpg)
Jesus in the Talmud (http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Talmud-Peter-Sch%C3%A4fer/dp/0691143188)

Scattered throughout the Talmud, the founding document of rabbinic Judaism in late antiquity, can be found quite a few references to Jesus--and they're not flattering. In this lucid, richly detailed, and accessible book, Peter Schäfer examines how the rabbis of the Talmud read, understood, and used the New Testament Jesus narrative to assert, ultimately, Judaism's superiority over Christianity.

The Talmudic stories make fun of Jesus' birth from a virgin, fervently contest his claim to be the Messiah and Son of God, and maintain that he was rightfully executed as a blasphemer and idolater. They subvert the Christian idea of Jesus' resurrection and insist he got the punishment he deserved in hell--and that a similar fate awaits his followers.




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[PatColo]

Deana & A.C. Hitchcock discuss this "rewrote the Bible" question, 82 mins comm free:

Spingola Speaks 2013.10.04 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/10/spingola-speaks-20131004.html)

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Guest: Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/), author of The Synagogue of Satan (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1471034844) and In The Name Of Yahweh (http://www.amazon.com/dp/1470998025),

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[optionT]

Thanks for all the great info PatColo! I ended up buying the book a while ago and it's interesting!

[PatColo]

Great discussion on Spingola today.

Friday, 10-25: Dr. Harrell Rhome (http://spingolaspeaks.info/2013/10/25/friday-10-25-dr-harrell-rhome/)


Dr. Harrell Rhome, a well established writer and author joins Deanna today. His articles may be read at Gnostic Liberation Front (http://gnosticliberationfront.com/articles_and_research__by_dr_Harrell_Rhome.htm). His most recent book, From the Temple to the Talmud (http://www.barnesreview.org/from-the-temple-to-the-talmud-exploring-judaic-origins-history-folklore-and-tribal-traditions-p-537.html), is available at The Barnes Review (http://www.barnesreview.org/), a publisher of many books you may find of interest.

Extra: Deconstructing Six Million Holo-Myths (PDF (https://copy.com/ebaiQg1Ngsm64tjw))

If you're interested in David Capp's "The Gospel of Saint Thomas," also discussed on his broadcast, there's a free, updated copy of the book online:
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From the Temple to the Talmud (http://www.amazon.com/From-Temple-Talmud-Exploring-Traditions/dp/0984631283) on amazon, only one review presently, "5 stars".

@ Barnes Review:





Zionism & Judaica (http://www.barnesreview.org/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=&zenid=a7da4d277d7eb91fa38a90bd48e483dc)
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From the Temple To the Talmud: Exploring Judaic Origins, History, Folklore and Tribal Traditions (http://www.barnesreview.org/from-the-temple-to-the-talmud-exploring-judaic-origins-history-folklore-and-tribal-traditions-p-537.html) $25.00
Dr. Harrell Rhome


In From the Temple to the Talmud, Dr. Harrell Rhome offers a panoramic look at Jewish history, culture and religion from a Revisionist perspective. Not content to merely repeat the findings of previous researchers, Rhome offers a new interpretation of Jewish history‚ one that is sure to enrage some and leave others standing in ovation. Going back to primary and ancient sources, while also including research from scholars (many of whom are now considered too politically incorrect to cite by mainstream academicians), Rhome covers this expansive history in a lively and easy to read style, accompanied by many illustrations and a lengthy list of sources for future research. No doubt, after reading From the Temple to the Talmud, you will be well-versed in this fascinating and vitally important subject which Rhome refers to as “the curiously camouflaged and conveniently convoluted chronicle of the people called the Jews.”


Chapters include: What Was the Ancient Hebrew Religion?; Exploring the Origins and Evolution of the Hebrew Language; The Old Testament Is Theology, Not History; Esther, The Queen of Purim—A Talmudic Tale of Terror; Purim and the Whole Megillah; Rome Gave Birth to Judaism; The Khazarian Connection; Judaic Origins and Genetic Testing; The Yiddish Language and Ashkenazi Tribal Traditions; Demystifying the Talmud; Talmudic Mysticism and the Occult; Unveiling the Kabala —A Saga of Sorcery and Psychopolitics; Halakha Law and Talmudic Legalism; Judaism and Christianity—A Dysfunctional Relationship; Judaism and Christianity—A Focus on the Iberian Expulsions; Judaism and Christianity—Banning and Burning the Talmud; The Real History of the Hexagram Called the Star of David; The Protocols of Zion—Forgeries or Fact?; and Talmudism Today.



Published 2011 by THE BARNES REVIEW, Softcover, 261 page

[PatColo]

2hrs 6 mins; I'm about 1/3 through, so far VG:


Tuesday, November 5, 2013
The Realist Report with John Friend (http://www.john-friend.net/2013/11/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_5.html)


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On this edition of The Realist Report (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report/2013/11/05/andrew-carrington-hitchcock--synagogue-of-satan), we'll be joined by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://www.thesynagogueofsatan.com/). Andrew and I will be discussing a number of subjects, including his book The Synagogue of Satan (http://www.thesynagogueofsatan.com/The-Synagogue-Of-Satan---Updated%2C-Expanded%2C-And-Uncensored.php) and In The Name of Yahweh (http://www.lulu.com/shop/andrew-carrington-hitchcock/in-the-name-of-yahweh/paperback/product-18851612.html).

You can download the mp3 for this program here (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/5/631/show_5631925.mp3), or visit The Realist Report (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report) on BlogTalkRadio to subscribe via iTunes and view past programs.



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[PatColo]

haven't listened to this "heretic" radio show yet, desc sound on topic here... & Mami's posted both hours:


Red Ice Radio Kenneth Humphreys - Jesus Never Existed, Judaism & Christianity July 29, 2010 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/red-ice-radio-kenneth-humphreys-jesus.html)

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Kenneth Humphreys holds a Master's degree from the University of Essex in history and social sciences, a post-graduate pedagogic certificate from the University of Leicester, and a higher national certificate in business studies. He taught for many years both in the UK and abroad, the latter including periods in Turkey and Papua New Guinea, the former including a Senior Lecturership in Modern Languages. Religion, and in particular the claims of Christianity, have been a life-long interest. He is now fully occupied as a writer, radio broadcaster and public speaker, and campaigns energetically against the tide of resurgent superstition and unreason. The website Jesus Never Existed was launched in December 2001. It receives more than a million visitors per year and is currently being made available in nine languages. The book Jesus Never Existed was published in 2005. Kenneth joins us to discuss his work and research on the lack of historical references and historical records as proof for the existence of Jesus.

Hour 1
Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/8r4cawpoa6/RIR-100729-khumphreys.mp3)

Hour 2
Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/vpd7w8z9wl/RIR-100729-khumphreys75s-SUB.mp3)

Red Ice Radio (http://www.redicecreations.com/)

[aeondaze]

Kenneth Humphreys - Jesus Never Existed, Judaism & Christianity July 29, 2010

This is what i think is a real possibility. The thing about Christians is they fail to grasp the concept of myth and clearly the figure of Jesusu fits nestly into this category.

I know this is extremely offensive to some, but I think you'd be foolish as a person to place all your eggs in the basket of literal intrepretation. So the end result is a loose bunch of allegories to take lessons from, not a strict and literal dogmatic one.

Anyhow, I'm an atheist, what would I know...:rolleyes:

Thanks PC

[PatColo]

and then we have this dookey,


http://www.redicecreations.com/ul_img/27760bush_2.jpg
George W Bush’s new ’crusade’: converting Jews to Christianity (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=27761)
2013 11 15

Some people think George W Bush did as much as he could to bring about Armageddon with his earlier interventions in the Middle East. But not the man himself, apparently. He has signed up for a fundraising event for the Messianic Jewish Bible Institute, an organisation which aims to promote the second coming by converting Jews to Christianity, and will ... more :D (http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=27761)

[aeondaze]

Yeah, I always got the feeling this guy thought of himslef as gods messenger, he was such a sanctimonious POS when he was aihilating whole coutirs it was mind boggling to see. So now he thinks he can convert the jews.

Its all just one big psychodrama, he'd know full well they hold the reigns and have no intention of changing by any way other than by force.

[PatColo]

43 min podcast where Patrick Slattery interviews Mark Dankof (a Lutherin minister) about the origins & evolution of "Christian Zionism"; DDuke is absent from this show,


David Duke Show 2013.12.18 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/david-duke-show-20131218.html)

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Today: Mark Dankof joins the show to discuss the history of Christian Zionism. A Lutheran pastor and former Constitution Party candidate for the US Senate, he hosts "Mark Dankof's America" on The Ugly Truth" and appears regularly on Iran's Press TV. Mark's November 9th appearance at the American Free Press conference in Austin is entitled, "FDR and Pearl Harbor: The Primer for the Zionist Assault on the American Republic and the Nation of Iran (http://mark1marti2.wordpress.com/2013/11/08/fdr-and-pearl-harbor-the-primer-for-the-zionist-assault-on-the-american-republic-and-the-nation-of-iran/)."

David's site (http://www.davidduke.com/)

64k CF Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/lvkhuycno2/Duke.20131218.mp3)





also see this Duke article,


Jewish Supremacists Hoist Menorah, but Demand Christian Cross Comes Down (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/12/jewish-supremacists-hoist-menorah-but.html)

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The federal court ruled that having a Christian cross as part of an American war memorial that has stood for decades, violated the principle of “separation of church and state.”

A Christian cross as part of American war memorial must be forbidden, but in thousands of localities across America at this moment, Jewish Menorahs stand with the protection of USA federal court protection. Here is picture of the Menorah that is erected every year in front of the White House.


The organization behind the federal court case to destroy the cross was none other than the Jewish War Veterans. In fact over the last five decades has had the lowest percentage of service men than any other ethnic group, unless of course you can count the Israel army where many have served.


The chutzpah of these Jewish groups in endeavoring to destroy American heritage is downright shocking, but it has become so commonplace that it gets hardly a yawn from Americans any more.

***Read article by David Duke*** (http://davidduke.com/jewish-supremacists-hoist-menorah-demand-christian-cross-comes/)

[Glass]

This is what i think is a real possibility. The thing about Christians is they fail to grasp the concept of myth and clearly the figure of Jesusu fits nestly into this category.

I know this is extremely offensive to some, but I think you'd be foolish as a person to place all your eggs in the basket of literal intrepretation. So the end result is a loose bunch of allegories to take lessons from, not a strict and literal dogmatic one.

Anyhow, I'm an atheist, what would I know...:rolleyes:

Thanks PC

The issue isn't really what the christians believe, and there are very few christians BTW. Most people are misdirected satan worshipers, most christians and all catholics fit this description

What is important, is that there are people who are satanists and act according to that belief structure. So what is important is not what Christians believe it is what Satanists believe. Seeing as the world is run by them I would say that is pretty important.

Atheist unfortunately are a neutralised spirit and as a result are of benefit to the satanists. Atheists might find that offensive but they must be classed as satanists due to their spiritual neutralising.

[PatColo]

Red Ice Radio Kenneth Humphreys - Jesus Never Existed, Judaism & Christianity July 29, 2010 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/red-ice-radio-kenneth-humphreys-jesus.html)



Spingola, a Methodist Christian, exchanges views with the author of
Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/Caesars-Messiah-Roman-Conspiracy-Invent/dp/1569754578/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8) by Joseph Atwill (Apr 15, 2005)

re the question, "Jesus: Did He exist, and does it matter?"

48 mins, VG!

Wednesday, 11/13: Deanna and Joseph Atwill on Karen’s Corner (MP3 (https://cloudup.com/cB36cgJYyaT)) < open that page, and from there you can either d/l the MP3 or listen via the console

[PatColo]

1 hr:

Texe Marrs Podcast 2/14/2014 - The Evangelical Heresy of “Judeo-Christianity”—Witch’s Brew of Ungodly Beliefs (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/texe-marrs-podcast-2142014-evangelical.html)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f3BngvAy5wk/ThO2STwi1QI/AAAAAAAAB1I/AUqIqTQmFdU/s1600/Judeo-Christian.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f3BngvAy5wk/ThO2STwi1QI/AAAAAAAAB1I/AUqIqTQmFdU/s1600/Judeo-Christian.jpg)
In just a few decades the term, “Judeo-Christian,” has caught on. Christians everywhere proclaim themselves to be “Judeo-Christians.” They say that America is a “Judeo-Christian” nation. But this is impossible. The very words of Jesus our Lord stand against this. It is blasphemy. Texe Marrs carefully examines the meaning and beliefs of Judaism and states that Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, and yes Judaism, cannot be equated with or mixed with true and pure Christianity. A person may be a Jew, but he cannot be a “Judeo-Christian”

TexeMarrs.com (http://texemarrs.com/)

Download (http://prophecy.techefx.com/audio/0714.mp3)

[singular_me]

to destroy the NWO, we will have to turn our backs to ALL DOGMAS... no wonder that the NWO warns about a new religion... which even isnt the New Age, yet they want us to target New Age as a threat... but as usual, the real ball isnt the most obvious rolling in front of our very eyes... but which in the deep and shady background

[StreetsOfGold]

I'm an atheist, what would I know.

at what you stumble

Proverbs 4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.

[PatColo]

a couple recent interviews with Andrew C. Hitchcock, author of "The Synagog Of Satan" (download free here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54647-Forbidden-Thought-Crime-books-to-download-amp-save-offline-now)), about his new book. I gather he's sort of a Christian-Identity ('Whites are the true Jooz') advocate?

82 mins:

Friday, February 28, 2014


Spingola Speaks 2014.02.28 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/02/spingola-speaks-20140228.html)

Guest: Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://andrewcarringtonhitchcock.com/), author of The Synagogue of Satan (http://www.amazon.com/Synagogue-Satan-Updated-Expanded-Uncensored-ebook/dp/B007UFOJ5A/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&tag=spingspeak-20) and In The Name Of Yahweh (http://www.amazon.com/Name-Yahweh-Andrew-Carrington-Hitchcock-ebook/dp/B007UGEGMU/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=ur2&tag=spingspeak-20)

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)


Download

(http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/o3or6mjltw/Spingola.Speaks.Carrington.Hitchcock.2014.02.28.mp 3)

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2h 3m:

Tuesday, March 4, 2014

The Realist Report - Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/the-realist-report-andrew-carrington.html)




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On this edition of The Realist Report (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report/2014/03/04/andrew-carrington-hitchcock--in-the-name-of-yahweh), we'll be joined once again by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. Andrew and I will be discussing his most recent book In the Name of Yahweh (http://www.amazon.com/In-The-Name-Of-Yahweh-ebook/dp/B007UGEGMU).

You can download the mp3 for this program here (http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/6/104/show_6104625.mp3), or visit The Realist Report (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report) on BlogTalkRadio to subscribe via iTunes and view past programs.

Below are relevant links for this program:


What Happened To The 12 Tribes Of Israel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi21Yi7dhKg) - E. Raymond Capt
Aryan Israel - Exposing the true identity of the descendants of Jacob-Israel (http://aryanisrael.wordpress.com/)




Posted by John Friend (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17331636747072636125) at 12:29 PM No comments: (http://www.john-friend.net/2014/03/the-realist-report-andrew-carrington.html#comment-form)

[PatColo]

haven't listened, 70 mins,

The Kevin Barrett Show 2014.03.10 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-kevin-barrett-show-20140310.html)



https://lh3.ggpht.com/_1_WxkOeIxkk/SWfJP4JfXtI/AAAAAAAAAAM/asJQupnvRrg/S220/Kevin+BarrettQ+220+JPG80.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1_WxkOeIxkk/SWfJP4JfXtI/AAAAAAAAAAM/asJQupnvRrg/S220/Kevin+BarrettQ+220+JPG80.jpg)





http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K3ArvvuykAQ/Ux4OZECb3wI/AAAAAAAABvE/jaaU26wZRx4/s1600/author_small.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-K3ArvvuykAQ/Ux4OZECb3wI/AAAAAAAABvE/jaaU26wZRx4/s1600/author_small.jpg)

Dr. Joseph Noor's book Document X: Direct Evidence of God's Existence (http://www.documentx.net/) tackles the big questions: How was the universe created? How did life originate? Is evolutionary theory right? How will the universe end? His answers are very different from those of my previous guests Vincent Bugliosi (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2011/09/kevin-barrett-muslim-interviews-vincent.html) (agnostic), Michael Parenti (http://noliesradio.org/archives/75180)(anti-religious) and E. Michael Jones (http://www.culturewars.com/) (Catholic).

Joseph Noor (http://www.documentx.net/autobiography/) is a practicing medical doctor and has a keen interest in science, astronomy and evolution. He enjoys running and is also an accomplished musician.


24k CF Download (http://noliesradio.org/archives/KB-TJ_noor_2014_0311_web.mp3)

[PatColo]

6 comment's @ KB's blog page,


Wednesday, January 15, 2014
Michael Parenti, E. Michael Jones debate God & religion! (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/2014/01/michael-parenti-e-michael-jones-debate.html)
Broadcast Sat., Jan. 18th 10-11:00 a.m. Central (1500 GMT) on NoLiesRadio.org (http://noliesradio.org/), archived here (http://noliesradio.org/archives/category/archived-shows/kevin-barrett-show). Note: TruthJihad.com (http://www.truthjihad.com/pm.cgi?action=show&temp=reg)subscribers (http://www.blogger.com/null) can listen to shows on-demand before they are broadcast - and also get free downloads! If you are a subscriber, just log in to the members area of TruthJihad.com (http://truthjihad.com/) and go to the "Private Blog" to get early access to the shows.
First half-hour: Michael Parenti (http://www.michaelparenti.org/biography.html), one of America's great dissident intellectuals, is not so crazy about God - and he's even less crazy about His followers! Parenti's book God and His Demons (http://www.michaelparenti.org/godandhisdemons.html) (https://www.blogger.com/null)is a better anti-religious diatribe than those of Hitchens, Harris, and Dawkins - the Three Stooges of neo-atheism - which isn't saying all that much.



http://borne.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/3stooges-of-evol.jpg (http://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&docid=Z7GSdcVzR412OM&tbnid=9Hm8ywwUR90CeM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fborne.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F02%2 F25%2Fquotes-on-atheism%2F&ei=nlLXUq_YAYj8qwGpsYGQCQ&bvm=bv.59568121,d.aWc&psig=AFQjCNEtOcnThVNi2WeNnoThDo9ZaZJ6mg&ust=1389929491089064)




The Three Stooges of neo-atheism: Dawkins, Hitchens, and Harris





But God and His Demons IS absurdly one-sided...the product of a mind so steeped in its anti-religious viewpoint that it seems incapable of critical self-examination, or considering alternative points of view on this topic...much less bothering to get to know the field of Religious Studies. It's a wittily-delivered laundry-list of items cherry-picked and/or ripped out of context for the purpose of making religion and religious people look bad. (I could easily do the same thing in reverse by writing a book entitled The Secularist Demons - and there would be even more material!) Though the book is lively and amusing, like all his work, I had hoped for more from Parenti, whom I generally admire and respect.

Second half hour: If we adjust for educational level, it seems that atheists are generally even more boneheaded, dogmatic, and obscurantist than the religious fundamentalists they love to hate. Why IS that? Let's ask America's leading engagé traditional Catholic intellectual, E. Michael Jones!

E. Michael Jones, editor of Culture Wars magazine (http://www.culturewars.com/), is one of America's most interesting dissident voices. He is the author of numerous books (http://www.amazon.com/E.-Michael-Jones/e/B001K7ZM78) on a wide variety of topics.


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Labels: atheism (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/atheism), christopher hitchens (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/christopher%20hitchens), culture wars (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/culture%20wars), e. michael jones (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/e.%20michael%20jones), god and his demons (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/god%20and%20his%20demons), michael parenti (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/michael%20parenti), richard dawkins (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/richard%20dawkins), Sam Harris (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/Sam%20Harris), secularism (http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.ca/search/label/secularism)




listen via the player console at:
Michael Parenti, E. Michael Jones debate God & religion! _ on Kevin Barrett’s Truth Jihad Radio (http://noliesradio.org/archives/75180)

[BarnkleBob]

The great fraud: Altering, amending, changing & perverting the language and words to create a cause & affect!

http://iahushua.com/ST-RP/tfr.htm

[PatColo]

Looks like some German jooz have tried to "rewrite the Bible" again...


Germany Produces Blasphemous Politically Correct Bible to Stop Antisemitism (http://www.dailystormer.com/germany-produces-blasphemous-politically-correct-bible-to-stop-antisemitism/) Daily Stormer
March 31, 2014
http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Christ-killing-monster-jew1.jpg (http://www.dailystormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Christ-killing-monster-jew1.jpg)
The Jews killed Christ. This is not opinion, it is historical fact.



A group of heretics in Germany have taken it on themselves to attempt to murder the Bible by freeing it of “gender bias” and “Antisemitism.”


From DW.DE (http://www.dw.de/german-bible-goes-politically-correct/a-2023998-1):




A new German translation of the Holy Scriptures, entitled “The Bible in Fair Language,” will be published this fall, in time for the international book fair in Frankfurt. A team of 42 women and 10 men worked on the translation for five years in an attempt to render the 2,400 pages of biblical texts in an easy-to-follow, contemporary language.


For those who do not read the Bible on a regular basis, the new German translation will be easier to understand. Those who already know text well, however, will find it novel and strange.


According to Protestant theologian Claudia Janssen, who worked on the new Bible, the old text has been rendered in a bias-free language.


“Justice is the main topic of the Bible,” Janssen said. “And we’re trying to do justice to the topic in our translation. Justice has different aspects: We wanted to do justice to the text and the language about the sexes. Social justice is also an important topic, as well as justice in the Judeo-Christian dialogue.”

…
The history of Christianity has also been characterized by anti-Semitic sentiments, which kept being disseminated by various biblical translations.


“When, for example, in the Gospel according to John, one reads about the ‘Jews,’ people say today that Jesus was confronting the Jews. Our translation makes it clear that Jesus was confronting the Jews, but also that he was a Jew himself. We tried to highlight that in various places.”


“We try to make it clear that the New Testament is a collection of Jewish scriptures and that the Old Testament is the Book of Jews,” Janssen said. “We want to approach that with respect and behave accordingly.”



I wonder how many of those who worked on this were themselves Jews?


I can bet it was quite a few.


Eventually, if the Jews get their way, blasphemy like this will be the only form of Christianity allowed in Europe.


http://www.dailystormer.com/germany-produces-blasphemous-politically-correct-bible-to-stop-antisemitism/

[Horn]

That warrants its own thread in the conspiracy section.

Who pays these people?

[PatColo]

@ Makow,


Catholics Unveiled Masonic Jewish Plot in 1936 (Encore) (http://henrymakow.com/jewish_peril.html)

August 10, 2013
http://www.henrymakow.com/Pope_Ratzinger_handsign2-20-09.jpg

The article identifies the Catholic Church as the supreme enemy of Jewish Masonry.
"We have blackened the Catholic Church with the most ignominious calumnies."


In 1936, two Catholic newspapers published accounts of speeches given at a
recent B'nai Brith conclave in Paris. It spells out the Illuminati Jewish program
of world domination as well as the Protocols of Zion. Paranoia or a dire warning ignored? You decide.


"And the Gentiles, in their stupidity, have proved easier dupes than we expected them to be. One would expect more intelligence and more practical common sense, but they are no better than a herd of sheep. Let them graze in our fields till they become fat enough to be worthy of being immolated to our future King of the World..."


Secret Jewish Plot Unveiled by the Catholic Gazette of England (First Posted here March 26, 2010)

In the London Catholic Gazette of February 1936 a sensational article was published under the heading: "The Jewish Peril and the Catholic Church". The monthly organ of the Catholic Missionary Society of England was quoting speeches delivered in a series of secret Jewish meetings in Paris. A few weeks later, the Parisian weekly "Le Reveil du Peuple" published a similar account, adding that the statements had been made at a recent convention of the B'nai B'rith (secret Masonic order in which no Gentile is admitted) held in Paris.

The article of the "Catholic Gazette" read as follows:

"THE JEWISH PERIL AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH"

That there had been and still is a Jewish problem no one can deny. Since the rejection of Israel, 1,900 years ago, the Jews have scattered in every direction, and in spite of the difficulties and even persecution, they have established themselves as a power in nearly every nation of Europe.

In view of this Jewish problem, which affects the Catholic Church in a special way, we publish the following amazing extracts from a number of speeches recently made under the auspices of a Jewish society in Paris. The name of our informant must remain concealed. He is presently known to us, but by reason of his peculiar relations with the Jews at the present time, we have agreed not to disclose his identity nor to give away any further details of the Paris meeting beyond the following extracts which, though sometimes freely translated, nevertheless substantially convey the meaning of the original statements.

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"As long as there remains among the Gentiles any moral conception of the social order, and until all faith, patriotism and dignity are uprooted, our reign over the world shall not come.

"We have already fulfilled part of our work, but we cannot yet claim that the whole of our work is done. We have still a long way to go before we can overthrow our main opponent: the Catholic Church...

"We must always bear in mind that the Catholic Church is the only institution which has stood, and which will, as long as it remains in existence, stand in our way. The Catholic Church, with her methodical work and her edifying and moral teachings, will always keep her children in such a state of mind, as to make them too self-respecting to yield to our domination, and to bow before our future King of Israel...

"That is why we have been striving to discover the best way of shaking the Catholic Church to her very foundations. We have spread the spirit of revolt and false liberalism among the nations of the Gentiles so as to persuade them away from their faith and even to make them ashamed of professing the precepts of their Religion and obeying the Commandments of their Church. We have brought many of them to boast of being atheists, and more than that, to glory in being descendants of the ape! We have given them new theories, impossible of realization, such as Communism, Anarchism, and Socialism, which are now serving our purpose...The stupid Gentiles have accepted them with the greatest enthusiasm, without realizing that those theories are ours, and that they constitute our most powerful instrument against themselves...

GENTILES BUILDING THEIR OWN JAILS

"We have blackened the Catholic Church with the most ignominious calumnies, we have stained her history and disgraced even her noblest activities. We have imputed to her the wrongs of her enemies, and thus brought these latter to stand more closely by our side... So much so, that we are now witnessing to our greatest satisfaction, rebellions against the Church in several countries... We have turned her clergy into objects of hatred and ridicule, we have subjected them to the contempt of the crowd... We have caused the practice of the Catholic religion to be considered out of date and a mere waste of time..
.
"And the Gentiles, in their stupidity, have proved easier dupes than we expected them to be. One would expect more intelligence and more practical common sense, but they are no better than a herd of sheep. Let them graze in our fields till they become fat enough to be worthy of being immolated to our future King of the World...

"We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. We have made it an honour, a great honour, for the Gentiles to join us in our organizations, which are, thanks to our gold, flourishing now more than ever. Yet it remains our secret that those Gentiles who betray their own and most precious interests, by joining us in our plot should never know that these associations are of our creation and that they serve our purpose...

"One of the many triumphs of our Freemasonry is that those Gentiles who become members of our Lodges, should never suspect that we are using them to build their own jails, upon whose terraces we shall erect the throne of our Universal King of Israel; and should never know that we are commanding them to forge the chains of their own servility to our future King of the world.

INFILTRATION

"So far, we have considered our strategy in our attacks upon the Catholic Church from the outside. But this is not all. Let us now explain how we have gone further in our work, to hasten the ruin of the Catholic Church, and how we have penetrated into her most intimate circles, and brought even some of her Clergy to become pioneers of our cause.

"Apart altogether from the influence of our philosophy, we have taken other steps to secure a breach in the Catholic Church. Let me explain how this has been done.

"We have induced some of our children to join the Catholic body, with the explicit intimation that they should work in a still more efficient way for the disintegration of the Catholic Church, by creating scandals within her. We have thus followed the advice of our Prince of the Jews, who so wisely said: 'Let some of your children become canons, so that they may destroy the Church'. Unfortunately, not all among the 'convert' Jews have proved faithful to their mission. Many of them have even betrayed us! But, on the other hand, others have kept their promise and honored their word. Thus the counsel of our Elders has proved successful.

REVOLUTION

"We are the Fathers of all Revolutions - even of those which sometimes happen to turn against us. We are the supreme Masters of Peace and War. We can boast of being the Creators of the REFORMATION! Calvin was one of our Children; he was of Jewish descent, and was entrusted by Jewish authority and encouraged with Jewish finance to draft his scheme in the Reformation.

"Martin Luther yielded to the influence of his Jewish friends, and again, by Jewish authority and with Jewish finance, his plot against the Catholic Church met with success...

"Thanks to our propaganda, to our theories of Liberalism and to our misrepresentations of Freedom, the minds of many among the Gentiles were ready to welcome the Reformation. They separated from the Church to fall into our snare. And thus the Catholic Church has been very sensibly weakened, and her authority over the Kings of the Gentiles has been reduced almost to naught..
.
"We are grateful to Protestants for their loyalty to our wishes - although most of them are, in the sincerity of their faith, unaware of their loyalty to us. We are grateful to them for the wonderful help they are giving us in our fight against the stronghold of Christian Civilization, and in our preparations for the advent of our supremacy over the whole world and over the Kingdoms of the Gentiles.

"So far we have succeeded in overthrowing most of the Thrones of Europe. The rest will follow in the near future. Russia has already worshiped our rule, France, with her Masonic Government, is under our thumb. England, in her dependence upon our finance is under our heel; and in her Protestantism is our hope for the destruction of the Catholic Church. Spain and Mexico are but toys in our hands. And many other countries, including the U.S.A., have already fallen before our scheming.

CHURCH WAS LAST BASTION

"But the Catholic Church is still alive..
.
"We must destroy her without the least delay and without the slightest mercy. Most of the Press in the world is under our Control; let us therefore encourage in a still more violent way the hatred of the world against the Catholic Church. Let us intensify our activities in poisoning the morality of the Gentiles. Let us spread the spirit of revolution in the minds of the people. They must be made to despise Patriotism and the love of their family, to consider their faith as a humbug, their obedience to their Church as a degrading servility, so that they may become deaf to the appeal of the Church and blind to her warnings against us. Let us, above all, make it impossible for Christians outside the Catholic Church to be reunited with that Church, or for non-Christians to join that Church; otherwise the greatest obstruction to our domination will be strengthened and all our work undone. Our plot will be unveiled, the Gentiles will turn against us, in the spirit of revenge, and our domination over them will never be realized.

"Let us remember that as long as there still remain active enemies of the Catholic Church, we may hope to become Masters of the World... And let us remember always that the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before the Pope in Rome is dethroned, as well as all the other reigning monarchs of the Gentiles upon earth."

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Related, the book "The Plot Against the Church" (http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/) by Maurice Pinay online


reader comments @ http://henrymakow.com/jewish_peril.html

[Hypertiger]

I'm not ruled by scribbled words...Why you all are...I have no idea...You love following the path of least effort.

What terrifies you all...I scoff at.

You all do not even have the foggiest clue how to rub two sticks together to create out of thin air what you were born into.

Jews rule the world?

People that wet themselves at the sight of a Swastika are not even in control of their bladders.

The Lord at the top of the absolute capitalistic hierarchy rules you all with fear.

Fear of death.

It is how every what you all have been programed to call civilization that has ever existed everywhere on the planet works.

the progression of the absolute capitalist or tyrant is.

Persuasion force annihilation.

Please supply the demand for what is wanted or else be destroyed.

Please believe the lie I'm telling you is Truth or else be destroyed.

might makes right.

You all are baby seals that supply power to the clubbers that claim to be your defenders until you choose to resist their demands or can not supply their demands...and then you are liquidated.

The compounding interest equation at the core of the absolute capitalist system is your master.

Supply the demand of the equation and be rewarded...Refuse and be punished.

You are either rich servants of the master lie believed to be Truth or GOD or poor slaves of the master lie believed to be truth or GOD.

You all do not own the system...it owns you all.

The system is the servant you all slave for that is owned by the master.

It is annihilating you all nanosecond to nanosecond.

You all are the supply of power to it and the demand for power from it.

In 2008 the demand by all of you from it became greater than the supply by all of you to it.

You all are yield starved and cannibalizing yourselves trying to feed your hunger for power.

Every new second of fantasy believed to be reality demands exponentially more power than the previous second of fantasy believed to be reality.

Of course taking more power than is given is a natural process that all which is ignorant of Truth does to sustain existence as long as possible.

The compounding internet equation is visible chaos or fantasy believed to be reality that is powered by the invisible order of reality.

It is a discovery...not an invention.

It has at it's core the base of the natural logarithm.

2.71

999/2.7 = 370.

999/369 = 2.71 Approximately.

“If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.”-Tesla

123 x 3 = 369

37 x 3 = 111
37 x 6 = 222
37 x 9 = 333

37 x 12(3) = 444
37 x 15(6) = 555
37 x 18(9) = 666

37 x 21(3) = 777
37 x 24(6) = 888
37 x 27(9) = 999

There is a secret that is not taught in schools that the general population go through...an that includes all the people you claim are elites...if you can see them in the system.

they are ultimately slaves of the system.

The owners of the system do not exist inside the system.

Because the system is powered like a battery...It inflates/exponentially grows or explodes up to maximum potential and deflates/exponentially decays or implodes down to maximum potential.

It charges up and discharges down.

All inside the system are doomed.

That is why the owners of it exist outside the system.

[PatColo]

I'll toss this podcast into this thread, though I haven't listened. Check the developing comments for a preview.


Tuesday, September 16, 2014
The Realist Report - Pastor Eli James & Joseph Atwill debate (http://www.therealistreport.com/2014/09/the-realist-report-pastor-eli-james.html)


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On this edition of The Realist Report, we'll be joined by two Christian and Biblical scholars who have radically different perspectives of the origins of Christianity, the historicity of Jesus Christ, and a variety of other topics relating to the Christian religion and ancient history. Pastor Eli James (http://anglo-saxonisrael.com/), author of The Great Impersonation: How the Anti-christ has Deceived the Whole World (http://www.amazon.com/Great-Impersonation-Anti-christ-Deceived-Whole-ebook/dp/B00B63LO4Q/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1410846240&sr=8-1-fkmr2&keywords=eli+james+the+great+imposter), and Joseph Atwill (http://caesarsmessiah.com/blog/about/), author of Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus (http://www.amazon.com/Caesars-Messiah-Conspiracy-Flavian-Signature/dp/1461096405), will participate in a moderated discussion about these subjects. You can download the entire program here (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-128766/TS-899099.mp3).




Posted by John Friend (http://www.blogger.com/profile/17331636747072636125) at 4:46 PM No comments: (http://www.therealistreport.com/2014/09/the-realist-report-pastor-eli-james.html#comment-form)

Labels: The Realist Report (http://www.therealistreport.com/search/label/The%20Realist%20Report)

[PatColo]

I haven't dug into either of the following, but Mami's posted over the past day, sort of a point, counterpoint;



Online resource:The Skeptic's Annotated Bible (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/online-resourcethe-skeptics-annotated.html)




http://www.gdargaud.net/Humor/Pics/Christianity.jpg (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html)



Got Jews?? Get rid of the little buggers with New Testament "Pray-Away"! (* it doesn't work!)

(http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html)


The next time one of your Christian friends tries to impress you with how Good,Kind and loving the "Jesus" of the New testament was, refer them to this online resource that details something...different to their own understanding.
(skepticsannotatedbible (http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt_list.html))

"Faith Is Not A Virtue, Faith Is Gullibility!" - A segment taken from The Atheist Experience (http://www.atheist-experience.com/) : A weekly cable access television show in Austin, Texas, geared at a non-atheist audience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0OCYhDFc42I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=0OCYhDFc42I


Posted by foon1e (http://www.blogger.com/profile/11620170404653771913) at 10:21 AM 4 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=3535760851904143145)


Tuesday, November 18, 2014


An exhaustive examination of the claims made by the author of the Skeptic's Annotated Bible (SAB). (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2014/11/an-exhaustive-examination-of-claims.html)



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Do the alleged absurdities and contradictions stack up?

***Find out here*** (http://www.berenddeboer.net/sab/)

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The Great Debate: Does God Exist? Dr. Greg Bahnsen versus Dr. Gordon Stein

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZdOGCE5KQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLZdOGCE5KQ


Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 8:17 PM 3 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=8105466815914783562)

[singular_me]

I miss your input on here NE... if you read this, I hope all is well.


Certain stories contained in the bible have been found carved into rock tablets of Sumeria, aspects of the biblical story are older than the bible. That is proven.

In the bible you have essentially a gatekeeper omitting certain parts of history for you, councils of rich men, TPTB of their day, sat around deciding what would and what would not make it into the bible....under the guise of some of it being true and some it being untrue...They were really just deciding how much of their original source to include.

[PatColo]

Not familiar with this hostess, but guest Giuliani is a big critic of... I'll say organized religion... after a couple years at a seminary to become a preacher-man. Don't know if he has a son, but I just like this song, Chesty Parton does it well too (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4HwiPFaIrI):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RInuFNw1Lk0


So anyways, hostess & CGiuliani are both joo-wise and anti-Christianity. They start this show discussing how/why joo-wise folks still cling to Christianity.

I'm still listening but if you can tolerate such a discussion give this a listen. 1h 46m:

Valkyrie Underground 2015.02.09 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/02/valkyrie-underground-20150209.html)



http://mightisright.net/uploads/3/4/5/1/3451467/1404418409.png (http://mightisright.net/uploads/3/4/5/1/3451467/1404418409.png)




Christ Insanity with Charles Giuliani

UrbanJungleGirl and Charles Giuliani discuss christ insanity and its far reaching tentacles. And who are those wacky jews?

MightIsRight.net (http://mightisright.net/)
Valkyrie Underground (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=136692&cmd=tc) (TalkShoe)

Download (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-130203/TS-945108.mp3)

[PatColo]

Part duex of the interview in #74 above; hostess UrbanJungleGirl is guest on Giuliani's show, for more BuyBull bashing! :D


Truth Hertz with Charles Giuliani 2015.02.18 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2015/02/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani_18.html)



http://oi59.tinypic.com/1191gl3.jpg (http://oi59.tinypic.com/1191gl3.jpg)


Guest: UrbanJungleGirl (http://mightisright.net/)

Download MP3 (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/american-nationalist-network/2015/02/18/truth-hertz-with-charles-giuliani.mp3)

[PatColo]

initial commentary by Brandon Martinez, NOT a Putiin fan; then main article from joospew media source; 6 comments at link:


Putin initiates law against anti-Semitic Biblical commentary (http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/12/putin-initiates-law-against-anti-semitic-biblical-commentary/) Brandon Martinez (http://nonalignedmedia.com/author/bmar999/) December 14, 2015 News

(http://nonalignedmedia.com/category/news/) Editor’s Note: Is this another super-secret chess move to trick the Zionists into thinking he’s on their side? Only deluded fools would believe such laws in Russia are actually designed to harm Zionism instead of aid it.



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Israel National News



At the initiative of Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Duma (Russian Parliament) has legislated a law outlawing “distorted and/or extremist” commentary of Scriptures.


The purpose of the unusual law, it is widely understood, is the prevention of cynical advantage being taken of Biblical verses for anti-Semitic purposes.


Russian history has seen many instances in which anti-Semitic elements announced “shocking new revelations” from the Bible and Rabbinic writings to encourage violent anti-Semitism.


Putin, a former KGB agent, has long been known to oppose anti-Semitism, and violent attacks against Jews in his country have in fact been on the decline in recent years. He also conducts warm relations with Israel – even as he does the same with Iran.


Rabbi Berel Lazar, Chief Rabbi of Russia, said that the law is truly important in the fight against Russian anti-Semitism. He publicly thanked “my friend President Putin who bodily blocks all anti-Semitic phenomena” and the members of the Duma for “proving that Russia respects the beliefs of all its citizens.”


MORE ON ARUTZ SHEVA

(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/204688#.Vm9Dv7SJnww)http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/12/putin-initiates-law-against-anti-semitic-biblical-commentary/
(http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/204688#.Vm9Dv7SJnww)

[Horn]

It is big enough story , i got scared and buried it in another thread too seeing as we have soo many ruskieputin fans onboard.

[PatColo]

Thursday, March 24, 2016


Blaming the Romans for the Crucifixion of Christ (http://revisionistreview.blogspot.ca/2016/03/blaming-romans-for-crucifixion-of-christ.html)







By Michael Hoffman


www.revisionisthistory.org




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In our time of nearly universal apostasy the churches have taken to blaming the Roman authorities for the death of Christ on the Cross while exculpating the Pharisees.


We see this fashion everywhere, from the Vatican to revered American “Conservatives,” such as Judge Andrew Napolitano and chat show host Bill O’Reilly of Fox News.


Napolitano wrote: “On the first Good Friday, the Romans executed Jesus because they were persuaded that by claiming to be the Son of God, He might foment a revolution against them...they feared a revolution that would disrupt their worldly power, and so they condemned Him to death by crucifixion." (Jews are not mentioned anywhere in Mr. Napolitano's column, which was published online by Lew Rockwell on April 17, 2014).


Scapegoating Pilate


Bill O’Reilly, in his book The Last Days of Jesus: His Life and Times A Special Illustrated Edition of Killing Jesus (Henry Holt: 2014), states: “...the responsibility belongs to Pilate” (p. 221).As part of O’Reilly’s blame-game he falsely writes: “Only the Roman governor possesses the ius gladii — the right of the sword. Or as it is known, the right to execute” (p. 221).


Really? Then who killed St. Stephen, Mr. O’Reilly? The Pharisee text Mishnah, in tractate Sanhedrin, gives a variety of types of executions to be carried out by the Sanhedrin. It is true that the Jews could not crucify anyone in Roman territory, but they could execute by stoning, as they did to Stephen. Note that Stephen was stoned after a council of the Sanhedrin had met (Acts 7:54-59).


I remember sitting through a Holy Week sermon by a talented Jesuit homilist who, like the skilled orator he was, lifted his voice at key moments for dramatic effect. At one point in his sermon, this otherwise mild priest shouted, “Pontius Pilate was a thug!” He had offered not a word of disapprobation for the Pharisees, or the generality of the Jews of Jerusalem. It was the Romans who were made to bare the onus of guilt for decide. We have witnessed this falsification at colleges and universities, and in Hollywood movies and on television.


The popes have their own elite theologians who offer sermons to the pontiff and the papal household. Rev. Fr. Raniero Cantalamessa, PhD., is a Franciscan priest. In 1980 he was appointed by Pope John Paul II to the stellar position of “Preacher to the Papal Household,” and confirmed again in that position by Pope Benedict XVI in 2005. He continues in this role under Pope Francis. In this capacity he preaches a weekly sermon during Advent and Lent in the presence of the Pope, cardinals, bishops, prelates of the Roman Curia and the general superiors of religious orders.


The point emphasized with the finesse of Machiavelli by Cantalamessa, is that the Pharisees are not guilty, or they are of lesser guilt, painted in existential shades-of-gray. The main villain in his account is the Romans. Here is an excerpt from the text of a sermon by the personal preacher to the last three popes. Note how Cantalamessa blames the Sadducees and lessens the guilt of the Pharisees (with the requisite qualifications of course):


“The Gospel data is just that much more credible insofar as the contrast with the Pharisees is not at all prejudicial or general. Jesus has friends among them (Nicodemus is one of them); we find him at dinner in one of their houses; they are willing at least to dispute with him and to take him seriously, unlike the Sadducees...Of course Pilate was not so sensitive to the demands of justice to be worried about the fate of an unknown Jew; he was a hard and cruel type, ready to suppress with blood the tiniest hint of rebellion....he did not try to save Jesus out of compassion for the victim but only to score a point against his accusers with whom he had been in a cold war since his arrival in Judea.


“Naturally, this does not at all diminish Pilate’s responsibility in Christ’s condemnation. He was just as responsible as the Jewish leaders...” (end quote from Cantalamessa).


Seeking to ingratiate himself with his rabbinic masters, Fr. Cantalamessa is eager to find anything positive to say about the Pharisees. In the Roman Pilate, who declared he could find nothing evil in Jesus, the papal preacher locates the axis of iniquity: “...he did not try to save Jesus out of compassion for the victim but only to score a point against his accusers.”


How does Father Cantalamessa know this? Pilate risked the ire of his superiors in Rome by seeming to seek to spare Jesus, a “rabble-rouser” who a majority of His own Jewish people despised and wanted dead: “Pilate sought to release Him: but the Jews cried out, saying, if thou let this man go, thou are not Caesar’s friend: whosoever maketh himself a king speaketh against Caesar.” (John 19:12).


And Pilate only really risked this, according to the “Preacher to the Papal Household,” not because of any justice in himself, but as a “cold-warrior” merely seeking to score some “points” against his Pharisaic adversaries? How does Cantalamessa know this? What is his evidence — his own prestige as capo of the ecclesiastic Mafia in the Vatican?


Cantalamessa concludes with two lies, the latter a real whopper: 1. that the Sadducees were more guilty of deicide than the Pharisees, and 2. that Pilate was “just as responsible as the Jewish leaders.” The latter is a satanic falsehood that mocks his listeners for their ignorance of the Gospel of John. In John 19:11 Jesus tells Pilate, “He that delivered Me unto thee hath the greater sin.”

Writing in Oxford University’s The Oxford Bible Commentary, Protestant “Scripture scholar” C.M. Tuckett engages in the modernist fad of casting doubt on the authenticity of the New Testament account of the life, trial and death of Jesus. For Tuckett, the rabbinic Mishnah is credible. The Gospel of Mark is not. Tuckett is so duplicitous however, that he omits quoting from the rabbinic texts when the citation would undercut his thesis. For example, he leaves out all reference to the Babylonian Talmud’s account in Sanhedrin 43a of Jesus having Roman friends in high places when he wants to echo Cantalamessa and make the point that Mark’s “picture of Pilate...in no way squares with what we know from elsewhere of the man, viz., a cruel tyrant who would not have had the slightest compunction in executing an odd Jew or two...Pilate simply ordered Jesus’ crucifixion without any compunction at all.”


The modern world conspires to qualify, modify, moderate and mitigate, like a shyster lawyer, the guilt of the founders of the religion of Judaism. This is crucial to them due to the fact that the religion of Orthodox Judaism is the direct descendant and continuation of the religion of the Pharisees. As this truth leaks out, it is more than ever incumbent upon Right-wing media celebrities like Napolitano and O’Reilly, and the Vatican’s Cantalamessa and Oxford’s Tuckett, to make certain that the Romans take the lion’s share of the blame for that which the Jewish leaders, including the Pharisees, are guilty. What is there to debate after 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15? “...the Jews Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men.”


The Testimony of St. Paul


To assert that the Romans bear the principal share of responsibility for the death of Jesus is a contrived argument motivated by a desire to serve and appease rabbinic and Zionist power on earth. We have the unambiguous statement of Scripture in 1 Thessalonians 2:14-15. This Scripture statement was made by the Apostle Paul without qualifications of any kind. “It is generally agreed that I Thessalonians was written about A.D. 50, and certainly Paul would have had the idea that Jews killed the Lord Jesus long before he wrote this letter. Indeed, Paul was in Jerusalem shortly after Jesus’ death (Gal. 1:13, 18).”


It was by the Jewish leaders’ malice that Christ was killed and there was nothing new in that: “This is the heir, let us kill him” (Matt. 21:38). Those who killed Jesus were, by their own testimony, “the descendants of them that killed the prophets” (Matt. 23:31). The spirit of persecution was a tradition with them, descending from one generation to another and Jesus prophesied that they would continue these crimes: “Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town” (Matt. 23:34).


St. Paul testified that this was transpiring in his time: they were contrary to all men, that is, hindering the course of the Gospel appointed for humanity’s salvation and despising all other nations in comparison to themselves. This situation continues in our day, with the difference being that those priests and ministers in our time who call themselves followers of Jesus and imitators of Paul, assist Judaism in hindering the course of the Gospel.


In the next passage in Thess., v. 16, Paul states that the leaders of the Jews are under God’s “wrath” for these actions of theirs. So too are all the ones masquerading as “Christians” who, so as to be seen as respectable in the eyes of the world and its media, and to advance their business, career, celebrity, power or bank account, defend to lesser or greater degrees, the Pharisees, the Talmud, Midrash or Kabbalah, the rabbis or the Israeli Zionism that is the product of these spiritual plagues, these Christ-killing ideologies.



If we are indeed Christians, then it is certainly fitting, necessary and just, to dare to speak as Jesus and Paul did, and to call the ideology of Judaism a Christ-killing phenomenon whose recurrence was prophesied.


Granted, gentile racists do the work of the rabbis when targeting some hapless Judaic child, who did not choose his or her Judaic ethnicity, as a “Christ killer.” This is contrary to Scripture: “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” (Ephesians 6:12). A synonym for this spiritual wickedness is the Christ-killing ideology. The Romans embodied no such spirituality or ideology. Roman citizenship protected the Apostle Paul. Roman armies fulfilled Christ’s prophecy concerning the religion of Judaism by destroying the Temple of Jerusalem.



The Reformation doctrine of identifying Rome as the Antichrist, was a factor in producing the lamentable predicament in which we find ourselves today, wherein the Gospel has been counterfeited and “Rome” has replaced the leaders of the first century Jews as the alleged central malefactor in the New Testament.


Much rabbinic deceit is based on distraction. It is an irony that some Reformation biblicists removed Judaism from principal focus as the primary example of spiritual wickedness in high places, as indicated by the preceding Scripture verses, and, by derogating those passages, replaced Judaism with Rome, a move which continues to disarm Christians of the twenty-first century by distracting attention away from the premier Christ-killing ideology on earth, now as in the first century A.D: rabbinic Judaism.


That Judaism allies with a subordinate, apostate Rome we neither deny nor minimize. But for Protestants to believe that Rome surpasses Judaism in iniquity, or for Catholics to believe the same about Protestantism, is the sucker trap that undergirds centuries of shameful sectarian wars of religion that have pitted Christian against Christian to the delight of the rabbinate, who, depending on the time and circumstances, gave aid to one side or the other, the better to fan the flames of Christian fratricide, and divide and conquer.



“Father forgive them for they know not what they do.”

Of whom is Jesus speaking?






There is also the oft-heard claim, echoed by the papal preacher, Cantalamessa, that “...the New Testament sources....excuse them (the Jews), attributing their actions to ignorance (cf. Luke 23:34; Acts 3:17; 1 Corinthians 2:8).


John MacArthur’s comment on Luke 23:34 is insightful: “...their ignorance certainly did not mean that they deserved forgiveness; rather, their spiritual blindness was itself a manifestation of their guilt (John 3:19).”


St. Thomas Aquinas stated:


“...their ignorance did not excuse them from crime, because it was, as it were, affected ignorance. For they saw manifest signs of His Godhood. Hence, He Himself says of them in John 15:22: ‘If I had not come, and spoken to them they would not have sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin.’ And John 15:24 ‘If I had not done among them the works that no other man had done, they would not have sin....Bede likewise says, ‘It is to be observed that he does not pray for those who, understanding Him to be the Son of God, preferred to crucify Him rather than acknowledge Him.’...


“All this shows that while they beheld Christ’s marvelous works, it was owing to their hatred that they did not allow him to be the Son of God...The rulers of the Jews knew that he was Christ: and if there was any ignorance in them, then it was affected ignorance, which could not excuse them...” (The Summa Theologica of St. Thomas Aquinas, part III, question 47, articles 5-6).


In Conclusion


We know we are in a world turned upside down when the Babylonian Talmud, with its admission that Jesus had friends among high Roman officials who sought his acquittal, is more truthful than the crooked “Christians” and “Conservatives” who perversely place the main burden of guilt for the deicide on those very officials.






https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lsTiQ5_LvAg/VvSMnIfs52I/AAAAAAAACjo/-rJlSQdilv8xSOXWN81Hcr44uOwJT3xZg/s640/Pope%2BFrancis%2BPontius%2BPilate.jpg (https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lsTiQ5_LvAg/VvSMnIfs52I/AAAAAAAACjo/-rJlSQdilv8xSOXWN81Hcr44uOwJT3xZg/s1600/Pope%2BFrancis%2BPontius%2BPilate.jpg)

March 20, 2016
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Michael Hoffman is the author of Judaism Discovered: A Study of the Anti-Biblical Religion of Racism, Self-Worship, Superstition, and Deceit (http://truthfulhistory.blogspot.com/2016/02/judaica-books-and-resources.html), from which portions of this column were excerpted.

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Also see:
Thread: Happy Purim! Mar 23-24. Michael Hoffman article inside. (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?88710-Happy-Purim%21-Mar-23-24-Michael-Hoffman-article-inside)

[PatColo]

quite a bit of bible, dinjooz, & even jesuits/black pope talk in this 1 hour show:

The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show 6/21/2016

Andrew interviewed Dr. Lorraine Day - The Population Extermination Program #1.

http://whoolisblog.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show_22.html

[PatColo]

Dr. Day has done several more of the above shows on A.C.Hitchcock's show; always 1 hr, they're all listed in ACH's archives (http://eurofolkradio.com/category/radio/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show/). Here's the latest,



The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (126) Dr. Lorraine Day – Dr. Day’s School Of Truth – Lesson 3 (http://eurofolkradio.com/category/radio/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show/)

Andrew Carrington Hitchcock (http://eurofolkradio.com/author/andrew/) July 26, 2016 The Andrew Carrington Hitchcock Show (126) Dr. Lorraine Day – Dr. Day’s School Of Truth – Lesson 3 (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/26/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-126-dr-lorraine-day-dr-days-school-truth-lesson-3/)2016-07-26T16:49:09+00:00 ANDREW CARRINGTON HITCHCOCK SHOW (http://eurofolkradio.com/category/radio/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show/) No Comment (http://eurofolkradio.com/2016/07/26/andrew-carrington-hitchcock-show-126-dr-lorraine-day-dr-days-school-truth-lesson-3/#respond)

http://eurofolkradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Dr.-Lorraine-Day-165x300.jpg

(http://eurofolkradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Dr.-Lorraine-Day.jpg)


On today’s show I am joined by Dr.Lorraine Day to continue the series “Dr. Day’s School Of Truth.” Today’s show covers: the deliberate destruction of Western Culture by the Jews; how the Jews want to make EVERY country “multi-cultural,” EXCEPT Israel; how the Jews got control of the Department of Immigration in the U.S.; the scam that America faces an energy shortage and why this is played on us; and False Flag Operations in U.S., the U.K., and many other countries.



Click Here To Listen To The Show (http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-135369/TS-1098070.mp3)

[singular_me]

this is truly an amazing EYE opener

for my part, all religions could be dismantled


Putin initiates law against anti-Semitic Biblical commentary

now we can see how the fear of the One World religion plays out both ways. The true One World religion is being able to perceive the total understanding of mankind. Good job NWO, thanks again for subverting the Cosmic Laws of the Oneness.

[singular_me]

just like pantheist scholars that invented the social cast system (with its Untouchables and all powerful Brahmans) to abuse the cosmic law of reincarnation, which is real. The worthiness of any ideology can be measured in its control imposed upon the masses. True and genuine spirituality is liberating and does not seek to claim to be the only one, which is the root cause of violence.

When one sees the violence between abrahamic religions, there is for sure a big hidden lie at the core. That the gospel were written in Greek originally should raise your eyebrows.

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Biblical Scholar Claims Jesus Christ Was a Hoax Designed to Control the People
28 July 2016 GMT

Joseph Atwill, who is the author of a book entitled ‘Caesar’s Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus’, asserts that Christianity did not begin as a religion, but was actually a sophisticated government propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of the Roman Empire.

Christianity is a baseless religion that was designed by the Roman empire to justify slavery and pacify the citizens, according to controversial Biblical scholar Joseph Atwill.

In a blog on his website Mr Atwill wrote: "Christianity may be considered a religion, but it was actually developed and used as a system of mind control to produce slaves that believed God decreed their slavery.”

The scholar argues that at the time, Jewish sects in Palestine were awaiting a ‘warrior Messiah’, which became an increasing problem after the Roman Empire failed to deal with the problem with traditional means.

As a result, the rulers resorted to psychological warfare which would appear to give the citizens what they wanted, while at the same time making sure they followed their rules.

"Although Christianity can be a comfort to some, it can also be very damaging and repressive, an insidious form of mind control that has led to blind acceptance of serfdom, poverty, and war throughout history.”

Mr Atwill even goes so far to say that “to this day, especially in the United States, it is used to create support for war in the Middle East”.

He says he first discovered this revelation when noticing Jesus is “the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources”.

MORE
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/693817/Jesus-Christ-HOAX-Biblical-christianity-roman-empire


Who was Jesus?
Why is there no historic archaeological evidence of his existence?

Who wrote the Gospels?
Why were they written in Greek, rather than Hebrew or Aramaic?

How did the Christian religion come to be centered in Rome? Why were the first Christian pope and earliest saints all members of the Flavius Caesar ruling family?

Joseph Atwill | Caesar's Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus | S1 of 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN9ATGqLNo8


http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/
blog
http://caesarsmessiah.com/blog/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcpW7ijTWNg


MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND - THE CONTROVERSY IS ON!!

Joseph Atwill's Caesar's Messiah: A Critique - Gary Habermas, PhD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ddfZaDnda8

AND
http://caesarsmessiahdebunked.com/

[Glass]

joseph at-will

Do as thou wilt. That is the whole of the law.

[PatColo]

Brian Ruhe of Canada recently put up this 5 part interview; I'm just hearing the opening now, doubt I'll listen to much more, so if anyone gets into it plz post highlights :)

Find other 4 parts at https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCU3u-_-Y6j07XILBHo4rkXA/videos
40 mins:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qvHXZErwSX0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvHXZErwSX0

1 of 5 - Proof the Bible was Altered by Secret Society Involvement in the Late 1800s - Preamble
Brian Ruhe
700 views
22
5
Published on Oct 17, 2016
This is "Mr. 32"'s debut video and this preamble includes his introduction and influences. It is in Part 3 at 11:32 Mr. 32 starts to get into the topic of the title of these videos. He wishes to share with the world community new and explosive information: 5 of 25 New Testament revisers, meeting from 1870-1881 in England, were elite secret society members, who were bound by an oath of secrecy to “a conspiracy of silence”! This can be demonstrated from irrefutable literary evidence, from the official biographies or autobiographies of the men themselves. The result was that 7% of the New Testament portion of the Bible was altered in relation to its original language text's words, involving an estimated nearly 10,000 words. This secret society is formally named the 'Cambridge Conversazione Society,' but is better known today as the 'Apostles Club' or the 'Cambridge Apostles,' and it is England's equivalent of America's powerful 'Skull and Bones' secret society of Yale University.

The host, Brian Ruhe is Canada's leading critic of Jewish power, on YouTube. Brian is a Buddhist truth activist and occasional troublemaker. He was fired in Sept. 2016 from teaching at the Delta School Board because of these videos. Please donate to support these videos at the website http://www.brianruhe.ca/ and click on the PayPal Donate button. The enemy has trillions of dollars and much control over society so donations are gratefully appreciated to fight back. [...]

[Dachsie]

Thanks to PatColo for today, Feb 27 -2017 for making me aware of this thread. Would like to eyeball the book but no way $38. Can't find any used copies anywhere.

It is kind of interesting seeing how back with PatColo started this thread in 2012, he was really in to Deanna Spingola but later identified her as - oh gee - can't recall now but it was the Spingola Jumped Shark thread.

Guess I won't get in to a discussion about the bible. I am probably the lone traditional Catholic on this forum and we are all familiar with the "Catholics don't do the bible" meme, but I have to say I have a pretty good knowledge of the bible, but I just do not want to argue with anyone about it.

It is the infallible inerrant word of God but it is not the sole source of God's revelation to man, and it even says that in the bible, so I feel very comfortable with not being sola scriptura.

Listened to Dr. Loraine Day many years on Dr. Stan's Radio Liberty shows. She is quite an impressive person. She knew Dr. Stan, a fellow orthopedic surgeon, when they were both in residency and they are about the same age but it is amazing how young Dr. Day looks.

For many years she was a staunch Ellen G. White Seventh Day Adventist but dropped that about ten years ago it seems. She was divorced and had a son and has grandchildren. She remarried a retired California U S senator or congressman a few years back.

She was very active in fighting the way the government was dealing with the AIDS epidemic and so was Dr. Stan. Both of them had a lot of AIDS infected patients on whom they would have to do big operations in which these surgeons were up to their elbows and knees in AIDS contaminated blood. Kaposi's sarcoma is a kind of bone cancer that AIDS patients often contract and that rare form of cancer started showing up very frequently in the late 1970s.

Dr. Day had a huge, grapefruit size breast tumor and she was brave enough and smart enough to decide to take her own treatment protocol. Do not believe she ever had chemo. Do not know if she had surgery or tumor just dissolved.

Here is one of her good articles...

http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/political/newworld_order/boston_marathon.htm

NO ONE Died in the Boston Bombing – Nor was ANYONE Even Hurt.

[PatColo]

Thread: Spingola Jumps Shark, Supports Zion.gov's Official Sandy Hook Story (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?75243-Spingola-Jumps-Shark-Supports-Zion-gov-s-Official-Sandy-Hook-Story)


^ heh :D Her full, behavior-adjusted name beginning sometime after that thread began in 1/14, became "Delphi-Deanna Sunstein-Spingola"; but that was inevitably contracted into the nickname, "Delphi".

http://s17.postimg.org/5okdz9vq5/Delphi_Deanna_Spingola_Sandy_Hook_Book.jpg



I'll still listen to her Saturday shows, completely depends upon the guest. Delphi is just the vassal; guest brings the brain-porridge.

[Dachsie]

Delphi Deanna! How could I forget?