Adolf Hitler- The greatest story NEVER told!

[Norweger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TERKermWgIg&feature=related

[gunDriller]

i didn't listen to that video yet, but ZCF is one of the most gifted young historians i have met - he has written & collected several good articles about the HoloHoax -

http://zioncrimefactory.com/

[JDRock]

oh gaawd i hope this isnt another good st. adolph thread. lets be honest and answer a few on point questions shall we?
1. why was shikelgrubers name changed to gentile sounding hitler?
2. Why did shikelgruber have as the source of "his" askenazi party a jewish philosopher named alfred rosenberg?? oh, i guess he was too busy taking orders fron other jews to actually see one in his own cabinet! ...also hoarder has proven himmler was also a sheenie.
3. show me how many rich jew bankers were actually killed by shikelgruber??( ill help you, the anwer is 0)
and tell me why "hitler" was NOT gentile, NOT aryan, and NOT EVEN GERMAN! what a fukin poser!

and WHY, does your opinion of hitler mirror EXACTLY that of jew historians saving the halohoax #s???

[Norweger]

Let's not turn this into a "Hitler worked for the Rothschilds and was of jewish ancestry because i read it at godlikeproductions"-thread.

[General of Darkness]

Let's not turn this into a "Hitler worked for the Rothschilds and was of jewish ancestry because i read it at godlikeproductions"-thread.

I also heard he was part black, was the first rapper, could dunk a basketball, a flaming faggot and on and on and on.

[gunDriller]

Let's not turn this into a "Hitler worked for the Rothschilds and was of jewish ancestry because i read it at godlikeproductions"-thread.

my perception is that he was a patriotic German - loyal to his society - who saw the ills associated with Jews & Jewish culture & expelled them from German culture, allowing many to emigrate to "the desert" (Israel) and to the US, placing some in internment camps like the US did to Japanese-Americans during WW2.

and, he also got carried away and invaded Sweden, Poland, France, and a few other countries.

i know Germany had a long-standing border dispute with Poland but ... Sweden ?

why did Hitler feel compelled to invade countries other than Poland ?

[Norweger]

I also heard he was part black, was the first rapper, could dunk a basketball, a flaming faggot and on and on and on.

This is all true.

[hoarder]

http://www.thefinalsolutiontoadolphhitler.com/

WW2:
Number of Goys killed......millions.
Number of Khazars killed......a handful.

Jew bankers do it again and again and no one notices...They finance both sides and the Jew media foments the wars.

WW2 was even better than most....it launched them to permanent victim status.

Can Jews act? Really, haven't we noticed that most actors are Jews? Herr Schickelgruber performed well, along with fellow Jews Stalin, FDR and Winston Churhill.

The end result reveals the original intention.

[General of Darkness]

This is all true.


FYI I'm on part two right now, I found the remaining 5 videos of the 6

Here's part two.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjkzvfcx9r8&feature=relmfu

If you run your mouse over the top of the video you can click on going directly to the video which will open up another window form youtube and on the right side you can find all the remaining videos. I know all of this stuff mentioned, but I truly enjoy the narration with video.

The best part is that they're using parts of the video from the kike series, Hitler: The rise of Evil directed by this Canadian fucker. I do love the name CHRISTIAN DUGUAY. He just reaks of jewness and his first name is Christian. Total fucking calamity.

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTMzMzkzMDA1OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNjg2OTQ5Ng%40% 40._V1._SX640_SY427_.jpg

[Bigjon]

my perception is that he was a patriotic German - loyal to his society - who saw the ills associated with Jews & Jewish culture & expelled them from German culture, allowing many to emigrate to "the desert" (Israel) and to the US, placing some in internment camps like the US did to Japanese-Americans during WW2.

and, he also got carried away and invaded Sweden, Poland, France, and a few other countries.

i know Germany had a long-standing border dispute with Poland but ... Sweden ?

why did Hitler feel compelled to invade countries other than Poland ?

Hitler invaded Norway through Sweden. The Swedes made a deal and let Germany load it's tanks and armor on Swedish trains to invade Norway through the back door. The traitor Quisling, Norways minister of defense took down the border patrols so the German's had smooth passage all the way into Oslo and other strategic points. This is what my cousin's told me. You can't find one mention of it in the official history, must be politically incorrect to remind the Swedes of their cowardly treachery. My cousin's were a lot madder at the Swedes than at the Germans.

[singular_me]

allow me to throw this in for new visitors... it will surely help them see the whole picture better

War Is A Racket
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

[Norweger]

Hitler invaded Norway through Sweden. The Swedes made a deal and let Germany load it's tanks and armor on Swedish trains to invade Norway through the back door. The traitor Quisling, Norways minister of defense took down the border patrols so the German's had smooth passage all the way into Oslo and other strategic points. This is what my cousin's told me. You can't find one mention of it in the official history, must be politically incorrect to remind the Swedes of their cowardly treachery. My cousin's were a lot madder at the Swedes than at the Germans.

We had a jewish president of parliament that was hoping for a communist invasion so we should be thankful that Mister Hitler came before the communist swines. The king and all of the government loaded all the gold on boats and took of to Britain only to come back after the war and then persecute the ones that worked for the legitimate government during the war.

It would have looked alot different if it had not been for the later operation Barbarossa.. if the invasion plans for scandinavia had gone according to the communists plan then all the northern countries would have been communist and still to this day be total shitholes like the eastern ones.

[Bigjon]

We had a jewish president of parliament that was hoping for a communist invasion so we should be thankful that Mister Hitler came before the communist swines. The king and all of the government loaded all the gold on boats and took of to Britain only to come back after the war and then persecute the ones that worked for the legitimate government during the war.

It would have looked alot different if it had not been for the later operation Barbarossa.. if that had gone according to the communists plan then all the northern countries would have been communist and still to this day be total shitholes like the eastern ones.

What was the name of the Jewish president? The Finn's put a stop to the communist invasion.

[LuckyStrike]

http://www.thefinalsolutiontoadolphhitler.com/

WW2:
Number of Goys killed......millions.
Number of Khazars killed......a handful.

Jew bankers do it again and again and no one notices...They finance both sides and the Jew media foments the wars.
.

Why did millions of Whites die?

Because Rothschild controlled Britian and US intervened. I mean how damn clear can it be?

I have said this time and time again and it seems to fall on the deafest of ears, no rebuttal is ever given just speculation into areas that can never be proven.

Here is what is a known fact.

1) By the 1930's Jews had total control over Russia, and enough control of the US and Britain that they could be moved in whatever direction they chose.
2) The German people saw what the marxists (jews) did to the White Christians in the Ukraine and the whole USSR and did not want this plague eradicating them as well.
3) From WWI onward jews had total control of Germany, and the Allies divided the loot, neutering Germany. The entire reason Germany lost WWI was related to jews sabotaging their war efforts.
4) Hitler showed the German people this and so they began kicking out the marxists who had so nearly destroyed their country and caused millions of deaths.


This is what cannot be rebutted by any of the "hitler is a agent" crowd.

If the endgame was UN and Palestine to be given to the yids, why in the flying fuck did they need Hitler? I don't think anyone would even argue that they had a stranglehold over the US, Britain and most certainly Russia WHO THE HELL WOULD'VE INTERVENED?

People make the stupidest arguments "oh the Third Reich was getting gold coins to ship the jews out that means they are in cahoots with the Rothschilds" if I came to power you beat your ass I'd be taking or paying money for someone to get the yids out of my country, this does not mean I am an agent, it means I understand jewry.

Was Hitler perfect, No and nor was the Third Reich as has been pointed out there were traitors in his midst (Valkyrie plot) and he was too lenient on some jews in positions of power, but it is quite the stretch to insinuate that he was a Rothschild agent.

[hoarder]

Why did millions of Whites die?

Because Rothschild controlled Britian and US intervened. I mean how damn clear can it be?

I have said this time and time again and it seems to fall on the deafest of ears, no rebuttal is ever given just speculation into areas that can never be proven.

Here is what is a known fact.

1) By the 1930's Jews had total control over Russia, and enough control of the US and Britain that they could be moved in whatever direction they chose.
2) The German people saw what the marxists (jews) did to the White Christians in the Ukraine and the whole USSR and did not want this plague eradicating them as well.
3) From WWI onward jews had total control of Germany, and the Allies divided the loot, neutering Germany. The entire reason Germany lost WWI was related to jews sabotaging their war efforts.
4) Hitler showed the German people this and so they began kicking out the marxists who had so nearly destroyed their country and caused millions of deaths.


This is what cannot be rebutted by any of the "hitler is a agent" crowd.It doesn't need to be rebutted. None of those four contradicts what we are saying.

[Norweger]

What was the name of the Jewish president? The Finn's put a stop to the communist invasion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.J._Hambro

[Bigjon]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.J._Hambro

Mange Tak;

I found this little note (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Stowe#cite_note-3), a buried sidebar, that no one seems to want to remember.

Stowe "revealed the collaboration of Norwegian Vidkun Quisling in helping the Nazis seize Oslo without a shot."[4] In 1942 Stowe as a war correspondent visited Moscow and traveled to the front lines of the still retreating troops of USSR. His travel companion and guide was Ilya Ehrenburg, a Russian-Jewish-Soviet war journalist. Stowe's book They Shall Not Sleep gives a rare insider view of an American journalist on the Soviet Army, and the events of the war from the Soviet side of the front.

Stowe's critical reportage was claimed to be one of the influences that helped bring down Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain in the United Kingdom. His writings also gave the Norwegian government-in-exile considerable problems as they tried to organise the resistance after Norway had been occupied.[citation needed] It was quite often an image-problem, that J.C. Hambro worked actively towards correcting, working in exile.



J.C. Hambro worked actively towards correcting, working in exile. (In Stockholm, hmmmm?)

[LuckyStrike]

It doesn't need to be rebutted. None of those four contradicts what we are saying.

You say that jews finance both sides and foment a war, this is true but it is not necessarily always the case. Jews often do not need to fund both sides to have a war sometimes willing parties jump headlong in.

Plus the jews declared war on Germany in 1933, they had their plans out in the open and we fought arm in arm with the marxists to overthrow the anti marxists.

[Bigjon]

Why did millions of Whites die?

Because Rothschild controlled Britian and US intervened. I mean how damn clear can it be?

I have said this time and time again and it seems to fall on the deafest of ears, no rebuttal is ever given just speculation into areas that can never be proven.

Here is what is a known fact.

1) By the 1930's Jews had total control over Russia, and enough control of the US and Britain that they could be moved in whatever direction they chose.
2) The German people saw what the marxists (jews) did to the White Christians in the Ukraine and the whole USSR and did not want this plague eradicating them as well.
3) From WWI onward jews had total control of Germany, and the Allies divided the loot, neutering Germany. The entire reason Germany lost WWI was related to jews sabotaging their war efforts.
4) Hitler showed the German people this and so they began kicking out the marxists who had so nearly destroyed their country and caused millions of deaths.


This is what cannot be rebutted by any of the "hitler is a agent" crowd.

If the endgame was UN and Palestine to be given to the yids, why in the flying fuck did they need Hitler? I don't think anyone would even argue that they had a stranglehold over the US, Britain and most certainly Russia WHO THE HELL WOULD'VE INTERVENED?

People make the stupidest arguments "oh the Third Reich was getting gold coins to ship the jews out that means they are in cahoots with the Rothschilds" if I came to power you beat your ass I'd be taking or paying money for someone to get the yids out of my country, this does not mean I am an agent, it means I understand jewry.

Was Hitler perfect, No and nor was the Third Reich as has been pointed out there were traitors in his midst (Valkyrie plot) and he was too lenient on some jews in positions of power, but it is quite the stretch to insinuate that he was a Rothschild agent.

It is very clear, the Jews needed a Hitler to lead the German's into the trap and that is what happened.

[LuckyStrike]

It is very clear, the Jews needed a Hitler to lead the German's into the trap and that is what happened.

What trap? They could've and would've sent the Germans to the camps like their brethren did in Russia if it wasn't for Hitler. Hitler saved Germany, then the US and Britain sided with jewish marixist Russia to destroy them, period end of story.

[StreetsOfGold]

In the late 1970's Approx. 1978-79 a girl I know was visiting Munich Germany, a small castle with American soldiers about. She was walking through a courtyard and saw an older man walking arm in arm with a woman. She stopped to ask for the time and the man dressed in a trenchcoast turned aside as not to be seen and the woman politely obliged this young girls request. She caught a glimpse of the man and swore his was Adolph Hilter. Even though he was older looking she was conviced it had to be him. Being a young girl she didn't know what to say and to whom. She did ask some of the soldiers about enquiring if that was Adolph and they very casually said, of course it's him.

Take it for what it is... I know she's not lying though. Maybe it was his double??

[JDRock]

my perception is that he was a patriotic German - ?
ummmm exept he WASNT GERMAN!! unless you want to believe mainstream jewish propaganda!

[JDRock]

Hitler saved Germany,.
hitler, and dammit stop calling him that, its shikelgruber....and no, he destroyed germany...after conviently always missing opportunities to win the war. and NO the jew commies were NOT his enemy, he had an alliance with them early on! where do you GET this propaganda from??

[MAGNES]

Fred was the biggest supporter of Hitler and that history surrounding it, we had a good debate, I don't feel like doing it over, it is here somewhere early on, leave out the more controversial and circumstantial aspects and stick to the facts that we all know, Fred even directed me to Hitlers doctor, when we were talking about agents and infiltrations, Irving has a free book on his doctor who kept Hitler medicated, Fred helped me make the case about infiltration at the highest levels of Hitlers Germany. At key moments in history their was total failure, by design, this is how infiltration works, people cannot grasp that their are devils in their midst at high levels that will sabotage you when it really counts and only reveal themselves then, by then, nobody cares because the corruption permeates throughout, more agents reveal themselves, everyone is trying to save themselves at that point. Studying WWII is important. Hitler, etc, Hitler may have been for real, he still destroyed Germany and Europe, total failure. That is the outcome. At the very least the failures need to take responsibility for it, and why anyone would want to claim some sort of victory and claim them as some sort of leaders is beyond me. Rockefellers/Rothchilds built up Hitlers Germany, his war machine, it is all Rockefellers and Rothchilds, and their agents, the Bush/Prescott family is leaders here but not alone, the Dulles brothers made this all happen, the Dulles brothers were the managers of all of this at the top, total control. ZOG even owned many of the so called " death camps ", they owned IG Farben, Auschwitz was owned by them, a huge complex of interconnected work camps with central hub employing hundreds of thousands. IBM did the math to distribute the resources, human labor skills, to the right camp with their machines, think about this and how it contradicts the extermination camp propaganda, still many injustices, killings, prisoners, etc, Germans took prisoners from all over Europe to use as slave labor. Rockefellers and Rothchilds supplied Hitler with oil and gas throughout the war and gave them technology to create gas from coal. They had a world monopoly on oil back then, and they used that to create Turkey and Israel as well , through threats. Loftus covers the steel giant, Thyssen, it is all the Dulles brothers, The Secret War Against the Jews, read it, in 1994 this material was new and he protects himself from charges of anti semitism, do not let the title fool you, his work complements, Sutton, Mullins and many others, including Irving, gas chambers do not exist, but killings and other grusome stuff does, Hitlers Germany was not totally innocent. They go after Irving the foremost historian on WWII because he knows the truth, the sensationalism sold to everyone of gas chambers and extermination camps does not exist, a lot of other injustices and killings do exist, Irving puts the number of Jews killed between 2 to 3 million and almost all in Eastern Europe, they still jail Irving to silence him, totally complements Loftus on the killing machine of Hitler, and explains a lot of other things, including Hitlers people deliberately sabotaging their effort, going after the Jews and the locals going after them, why alienate the locals in many cases making enemy of Slavs ? Local Slavs went after the Jews as payback for Bolshevism. Germans had standing orders not to intervene. A farce, who owned IG Farben, Warburg sat on the board, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_family , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben_Trial , Christopher on GIM put us on to this hidden history, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben , http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/PHARMACEUTICAL_BUSINESS/history_of_the_pharmaceutical_industry.htm , http://www.naturalnews.com/036484_Bayer_Nazi_war_crimes.html , http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site:&btnG=Search&oq=&sei=7ptGUK2BLZKq0AHg0oH4Aw&gbv=2#hl=en&gbv=2&sclient=psy-ab&q=warburg+ig+farben&oq=warburg+ig+farbengs_l=serp.3..0i30j0i5i30l2.175 8.7405.0.7602.19.17.1.1.2.0.226.2162.2j14j1.17.0.l es%3B..0.0...1c.-KQjjbgSw4Q&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=a0bb9543edd4a055&biw=1116&bih=865 , the " ALLIES " did not bomb the ZOG factories, kind of like Vietnam , to perpetuate the war, profits, destroy Germany and Europe and promote propaganda. What I post here is just the tip. Be a student not a follower. The net is full of this info, read Sutton, Mullins, Loftus is key book, I have read many dozens of hidden history espionage type books, good ones, that is the key one, have an open mind, totally outs the banksters, even outs Simon Wiesenthal, believe it or not, he worked with and for them, not just as a propagandist. Again, my format is all messed up.

[Twisted Titan]

This thread is making my head spin...........but im loving it.

Classic GSUS

[sirgonzo420]

In the late 1970's Approx. 1978-79 a girl I know was visiting Munich Germany, a small castle with American soldiers about. She was walking through a courtyard and saw an older man walking arm in arm with a woman. She stopped to ask for the time and the man dressed in a trenchcoast turned aside as not to be seen and the woman politely obliged this young girls request. She caught a glimpse of the man and swore his was Adolph Hilter. Even though he was older looking she was conviced it had to be him. Being a young girl she didn't know what to say and to whom. She did ask some of the soldiers about enquiring if that was Adolph and they very casually said, of course it's him.

Take it for what it is... I know she's not lying though. Maybe it was his double??


Hitler wouldn't have been walking around with a woman in his arms.


Wasn't his thing.

[iOWNme]

This was actually a very good video, for any who didnt watch it.

I thought it was well made, and went into a lot of stuff that most doc's gloss over. I downloaded it for my archives.....


If Hitler was so 'ant-Communist' why did he make a deal with Stalin? The video claims it was just to make sure nobody attacked him when he invaded Poland? Wasnt Poland 'Communist'?

[hoarder]

If Hitler was so 'ant-Communist' why did he make a deal with Stalin? If Shickelgruber was so 'anti-Jew', why did he make a deal with Josef Djugashvili (son of Jew) Stalin?

[Bigjon]

What trap? They could've and would've sent the Germans to the camps like their brethren did in Russia if it wasn't for Hitler. Hitler saved Germany, then the US and Britain sided with jewish marixist Russia to destroy them, period end of story.

Great show, first you ask the question "What trap?" then you proceed to describe the trap. End of story.

[JDRock]

oh gaawd i hope this isnt another good st. adolph thread. lets be honest and answer a few on point questions shall we?
1. why was shikelgrubers name changed to gentile sounding hitler?
2. Why did shikelgruber have as the source of "his" askenazi party a jewish philosopher named alfred rosenberg?? oh, i guess he was too busy taking orders fron other jews to actually see one in his own cabinet! ...also hoarder has proven himmler was also a sheenie.
3. show me how many rich jew bankers were actually killed by shikelgruber??( ill help you, the anwer is 0)
and tell me why "hitler" was NOT gentile, NOT aryan, and NOT EVEN GERMAN! what a fukin poser!

and WHY, does your opinion of hitler mirror EXACTLY that of jew historians saving the halohoax #s???
how about a rational discussion of these points? so far the official msm opinion of uncle shikelgruber isnt holding up.....

[DMac]

Norweger this is your second Hitler tribute thread @ gsus. I also didn't forget that Memri crap you posted some time ago as well. Almost like....no....couldn't be an agenda there could it?

This must be a dang Nazi forum after all..

[Norweger]

Norweger this is your second Hitler tribute thread @ gsus. I also didn't forget that Memri crap you posted some time ago as well. Almost like....no....couldn't be an agenda there could it?

This must be a dang Nazi forum after all..

Not exactly a tribute. I only want to share this documentary with the good people here.

What is my agenda besides the truth?

[gunDriller]

If Shickelgruber was so 'anti-Jew', why did he make a deal with Josef Djugashvili (son of Jew) Stalin?

national leaders tend to be determined and, when necessary, ruthless.

they have to deal with the leaders of neighboring countries.

Stalin was a complete asshole, responsible for the deaths of many more than Hitler.


if you were in that situation, leader of post-WW1 Germany, hopefully benevolent, and you were in that situation - with Stalin as a neighbor - what would you do ?

can't ignore him. even if he's a complete psycho like Saddam Hussein's sons, you have to either meet him yourself or have one of your underlings meet him.


i'm not saying Hitler was good or bad because he had negotiated agreements with Stalin, just that it's normal for a country to have something like that with their neighbors.

between 2 countries, the alternative to negotiated agreements is often war, so if you're ruling country X, and the leader of neighboring country Y is a schmuck, you have to deal with them.

[JDRock]

STILL...after days...not ONE single attempt at an honest answer to our inquiries....hmmm dmac may be on to something.

[hoarder]

if you were in that situation, leader of post-WW1 Germany, hopefully benevolent, and you were in that situation - with Stalin as a neighbor - what would you do ?I could spend hours typing all the things I would have done differently.

If you were a covert Jew ruling a goy country, what would you have done differently than Shickelgruber?

[iOWNme]

Check this out, there is an actual wiki page on this.....The fact that they have to even address it, lets you know the truth of the matter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stab-in-the-back_legend

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Stab-in-the-back_postcard.jpg

[LuckyStrike]

how about a rational discussion of these points? so far the official msm opinion of uncle shikelgruber isnt holding up.....

I'm assuming you have evidence that his grand parents the oft repeated "shicklegrubers" were jewish?

Because if your entire argument rests on the fact that this "sounds jewish", I am about to school you on the ashkenazis. INB4 "oh ashkenazi, nazi get it hurr durr"

[LuckyStrike]

how about a rational discussion of these points? so far the official msm opinion of uncle shikelgruber isnt holding up.....

1. why was shikelgrubers name changed to gentile sounding hitler?
2. Why did shikelgruber have as the source of "his" askenazi party a jewish philosopher named alfred rosenberg?? oh, i guess he was too busy taking orders fron other jews to actually see one in his own cabinet! ...also hoarder has proven himmler was also a sheenie.
3. show me how many rich jew bankers were actually killed by shikelgruber??( ill help you, the anwer is 0)
and tell me why "hitler" was NOT gentile, NOT aryan, and NOT EVEN GERMAN! what a fukin poser!

and WHY, does your opinion of hitler mirror EXACTLY that of jew historians saving the halohoax #s



Ok dude, lets do it.

1) Shicklegruber sounds jewish? How about ashkenazi jews stole german names, and for the majority of history yids never even had surnames.
2) Alfred Rosenberg is jewish? Prove it.
3) How is this relevant? Because he didn't kill any jew bankers this means he is a rothschild agent, by this logic, so are you.

a) Hitler wasn't Aryan? Prove me in his writings, bloodlines or looks that would lead you to believe otherwise. Dark hair, blue eyes, pretty typical for that part of Germany.

b) I don't know where you even get this from, my opinion of Hitler has nothing to do with the "holocaust", I don't believe it obviously, but my opinion of Hitler doesn't rise or fall on its validity.

[horseshoe3]

Hitler invaded Norway through Sweden. The Swedes made a deal and let Germany load it's tanks and armor on Swedish trains to invade Norway through the back door. The traitor Quisling, Norways minister of defense took down the border patrols so the German's had smooth passage all the way into Oslo and other strategic points. This is what my cousin's told me. You can't find one mention of it in the official history, must be politically incorrect to remind the Swedes of their cowardly treachery. My cousin's were a lot madder at the Swedes than at the Germans.

I took Western Civ at a small college in a largely Swedish community. Even there, the professor told it exactly like you said, so it must be part of someone's official history.

I remember it well. At the end of the lecture he stuck his head out in the hallway and looked around. He then came in and closed the door and said in exageratedly hushed tones "And that's the reason for the big streak of yellow down the Swedish flag."

[LuckyStrike]

Hitler invaded Norway through Sweden. The Swedes made a deal and let Germany load it's tanks and armor on Swedish trains to invade Norway through the back door. The traitor Quisling, Norways minister of defense took down the border patrols so the German's had smooth passage all the way into Oslo and other strategic points. This is what my cousin's told me. You can't find one mention of it in the official history, must be politically incorrect to remind the Swedes of their cowardly treachery. My cousin's were a lot madder at the Swedes than at the Germans.

Well your cousin is a fucking retard then, yeah they would've been a lot better under the USSR.

I seriously have no time for such utter stupidity.

[sirgonzo420]

Ok dude, lets do it.

1) Shicklegruber sounds jewish? How about ashkenazi jews stole german names, and for the majority of history yids never even had surnames.
2) Alfred Rosenberg is jewish? Prove it.
3) How is this relevant? Because he didn't kill any jew bankers this means he is a rothschild agent, by this logic, so are you.

a) Hitler wasn't Aryan? Prove me in his writings, bloodlines or looks that would lead you to believe otherwise. Dark hair, blue eyes, pretty typical for that part of Germany.

b) I don't know where you even get this from, my opinion of Hitler has nothing to do with the "holocaust", I don't believe it obviously, but my opinion of Hitler doesn't rise or fall on its validity.

To play the devil's advocate... jews were required by law to adopt German surnames.



UNIVERSAL DECREE
demanding that, beginning with January 1st 1788,
each Jew should have a constant surname

Joseph II Habsburg, Holy Roman Emperor [1] (http://www.shoreshim.org/en/infoEmperorJoseph.asp#1) We Joseph etc.
In order to avoid any kind of disorder which usually occurs to some classes of people in political and judicial proceedings and in their private lives if families have no constant surname, and if particular persons have no known given name – the following law is instituted for all our hereditary lands.
§ 1. Jewry in all the provinces should be urged to do the following. Each host of household should adopt a constant surname for his family beginning with January 1st, 1788; whoever is taking care of orphans should do the same for them; also each unmarried man who is not under the care of his father nor any other care – should do the same for himself. An unmarried woman should adopt the surname of her father, and a married woman should adopt the surname of her husband. Every particular person without exception should adopt a German surname and never change it in his or her lifetime.

§ 2. All surnames that have been used in the Jewish language so far – whether originating from a place where someone has always stayed or where he has only stayed for some time, eg, Schulem Töplitz, Jochem Kollin etc., which were adopted in a common way – should be totally abandoned.
§ 3. By the end of November 1787, the father of each family and each particular person, by means of a note written in German, should inform the local municipality or the local authority of the place where they are permitted to live or stay of the name and surname adopted by them. This declaration, confirmed by an unsealed certificate, signed by the district deputies and by the chief rabbi or district rabbis, should state that now, the given persons have adopted a family surname X for ever, together with a particular German given name, and that they descend from Y, and that before they had used a such and such name.
§ 4. From January 1st, 1788, all circumcision books and all birth books without an exception should be composed in German. Also all who are born, marry or die should be put down in the books with their German name and surname adopted for ever.

[hoarder]

The traitor Quisling, Norways minister of defense took down the border patrols so the German's had smooth passage all the way into Oslo and other strategic points.

Lets see...
We know Jews are excellent infiltrators.
We know most traitors are Jews pretending to be goys.

Quisling? hmmmm Quislingberg?

[Bigjon]

Well your cousin is a fucking retard then, yeah they would've been a lot better under the USSR.

I seriously have no time for such utter stupidity.

Only a retard like you could jump to a conclusion like that!

How do you get to the conclusion that the USSR, who couldn't even get past the Finns, would conquer Norway?

Point in fact was that the Nazi's wanted to get control of Norway before England. England would have been invited in by the government of Norway.

[JDRock]

Ok dude, lets do it.

1) Shicklegruber sounds jewish? How about ashkenazi jews stole german names, and for the majority of history yids never even had surnames.
2) Alfred Rosenberg is jewish? Prove it.
3) How is this relevant? Because he didn't kill any jew bankers this means he is a rothschild agent, by this logic, so are you.

a) Hitler wasn't Aryan? Prove me in his writings, bloodlines or looks that would lead you to believe otherwise. Dark hair, blue eyes, pretty typical for that part of Germany.

b) I don't know where you even get this from, my opinion of Hitler has nothing to do with the "holocaust", I don't believe it obviously, but my opinion of Hitler doesn't rise or fall on its validity.

first alfred rosenberg.....are you SERIOUSLY so attached to jewish msm propaganda that you will stand there and even QUESTION the jewishness of rosenberg??? WOW, take the red pill and STOP believing the jews about hitler.

so..aaaahhh now you think shikelgruber was tall blonde and....oww gawwd...

the CENTRAL issue of the ashkeNAZI party was wresting germanys money supply FROM the jewish bankers! and you sit here and bullshit this board questioning the relevancy??

and tell us in detail how the jews having lied about history incessantly, suddenly are 100 true in their expose of shikelgruber!....dude, take step back, stop believing jewish propaganda...it is MY position,not yours which is at odds with the jews official story! and ..

"typical of germans" umm, this is embarrassing to even have to point out to you, he was AUSTRIAN.

[LuckyStrike]

first alfred rosenberg.....are you SERIOUSLY so attached to jewish msm propaganda that you will stand there and even QUESTION the jewishness of rosenberg??? WOW, take the red pill and STOP believing the jews about hitler.

so..aaaahhh now you think shikelgruber was tall blonde and....oww gawwd...

the CENTRAL issue of the ashkeNAZI party was wresting germanys money supply FROM the jewish bankers! and you sit here and bullshit this board questioning the relevancy??

and tell us in detail how the jews having lied about history incessantly, suddenly are 100 true in their expose of shikelgruber!....dude, take step back, stop believing jewish propaganda...it is MY position,not yours which is at odds with the jews official story! and ..

"typical of germans" umm, this is embarrassing to even have to point out to you, he was AUSTRIAN.

Is this what counts for a rebuttal of my points?

I went down the list, of yours. I would appreciate you do the same for me.

You make claims and I demand they are backed up. Put up or shut up is what I'm trying to say.

[LuckyStrike]

To play the devil's advocate... jews were required by law to adopt German surnames.

Not devils advocate at all, I'm assuming this decree went out to make it easier to track jews and jewish families via surnames.

Regardless my point of most jews have German names, so anyone who can claim a name alone as evidence is a retard.

[steyr_m]

Good video, I'm on part 4. Seems like pt 2 is missing. anyone else able to d/l it?

[iOWNme]

Good video, I'm on part 4. Seems like pt 2 is missing. anyone else able to d/l it?

There are 2 different users who have this video uploaded. Once of them is missing #2, the other has the full 9 part series. Here is the user with the full 9 parts:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL44731128736C3253&feature=plcp

[singular_me]

Not devils advocate at all, I'm assuming this decree went out to make it easier to track jews and jewish families via surnames.

Regardless my point of most jews have German names, so anyone who can claim a name alone as evidence is a retard.

well at the time I still had my financial site up and since it was in my signature, anybody could know my real name... however my maiden name is german and I am 50-50% african-causian. My grand mother on my father side was an italian but married an alsacian :) They eventually became belgian citizens for the sake of business.

[Neuro]

well at the time I still had my financial site up and since it was in my signature, anybody could know my real name... however my maiden name is german and I am 50-50% african-causian. My grand mother on my father side was an italian but married an alsacian :) They eventually became belgian citizens for the sake of business.
Hitler loves Belgian chocolate too! :)

[JDRock]

first alfred rosenberg.....are you SERIOUSLY so attached to jewish msm propaganda that you will stand there and even QUESTION the jewishness of rosenberg??? WOW, take the red pill and STOP believing the jews about hitler.

so..aaaahhh now you think shikelgruber was tall blonde and....oww gawwd...

the CENTRAL issue of the ashkeNAZI party was wresting germanys money supply FROM the jewish bankers! and you sit here and bullshit this board questioning the relevancy??

and tell us in detail how the jews having lied about history incessantly, suddenly are 100 true in their expose of shikelgruber!....dude, take step back, stop believing jewish propaganda...it is MY position,not yours which is at odds with the jews official story! and ..

"typical of germans" umm, this is embarrassing to even have to point out to you, he was AUSTRIAN.
this is factual...you AVOIDED the points by casting an absurd burden of "proof"...
for rosenberg, check the jewish virtual library!(jk)

as for your complete dodge- bob -weave- delay- denial of the banking issue it manifests a near complete ignorance of the central issue which brought about the war! ie the collapse of the weimar republic vis a vie a a banking collapse.


and your biggest repeated non answer is; WHY does bnai brith...the adl and the jewish defence league all hold YOUR exact opinion of shikelgruber ??? ( exept the halohoax #s are different.)

[JDRock]

http://holocaustinthebaltics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/17th-July-2011-Iskauskas-on-Jews-in-the-service-of-Hitler.pdf

[Bigjon]

Hitler loves Belgian chocolate too! :)

As our resident Swede, I'm curious as to what you know about your governments deal with the Nazi's. Is it taught in your schools? Is it a taboo subject only talked about in whispers? Or you have never heard of such a thing?

[Neuro]

As our resident Swede, I'm curious as to what you know about your governments deal with the Nazi's. Is it taught in your schools? Is it a taboo subject only talked about in whispers? Or you have never heard of such a thing?
Actually I never heard before that Germany invaded Norway via Sweden. Like you stated before in this thread, so I checked it out, and they didn't! Germany requested that but Sweden refused. The only real troop movement that Sweden allowed was through Sweden to Northern Finland, where Nazi German troops were fighting next to Finnish troops staving of Stalins invasion, thus preventing that Finland became a part of Soviet Union. Apart from that German troops who were on leave from their Norway mission were allowed to travel unarmed on special trains through Sweden. And yes Sweden provided Iron ore to Germany in the early years of the war. The Nazi troop transports is something that have been heavily debated in Sweden, but I really don't see much wrong with them in retrospect...

[Neuro]

http://holocaustinthebaltics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/17th-July-2011-Iskauskas-on-Jews-in-the-service-of-Hitler.pdf
That paper claims that Hitler killed 8 million Jews in Lithuania, Latvia and Poland...

[Bigjon]

Actually I never heard before that Germany invaded Norway via Sweden. Like you stated before in this thread, so I checked it out, and they didn't! Germany requested that but Sweden refused. The only real troop movement that Sweden allowed was through Sweden to Northern Finland, where Nazi German troops were fighting next to Finnish troops staving of Stalins invasion, thus preventing that Finland became a part of Soviet Union. Apart from that German troops who were on leave from their Norway mission were allowed to travel unarmed on special trains through Sweden. And yes Sweden provided Iron ore to Germany in the early years of the war. The Nazi troop transports is something that have been heavily debated in Sweden, but I really don't see much wrong with them in retrospect...

Well my cousins tell a very different story, than yours.

I think yours is the official story, like the one we know about 19 Arabs.

[Bigjon]

That paper claims that Hitler killed 8 million Jews in Lithuania, Latvia and Poland...


I have known a lot of Jews whose names start with Rose... Rosen, Rosener, seems to me like it is a tip off like names starting with gold, silver, diamond.

[Neuro]

Well my cousins tell a very different story, than yours.

I think yours is the official story, like the one we know about 19 Arabs.
Yes, I guess every-one in Sweden didn't notice or are ashamed to admit to that they saw the German army traversing their country on their way to invade Norway in 1940. Can you show a single link to your allegation that Germany invaded Norway via Sweden, apart from hearsay from your cousins? Is it possible that you misinterpreted what they were saying. Cause I have never even heard any Norwegian friends of mine stating that Norway was invaded via Sweden...

[Neuro]

I have known a lot of Jews whose names start with Rose... Rosen, Rosener, seems to me like it is a tip off like names starting with gold, silver, diamond. I don't know what that has to do with the authors claim that 8 million Jews were killed in Lithuania, Latvia and Poland. I was just pointing out that to show that the author is not reliable...

[JDRock]

That paper claims that Hitler killed 8 million Jews in Lithuania, Latvia and Poland... no it says according to the calculations of 1 historian...it makes NO such claim....how about the collaborators??

[Neuro]

no it says according to the calculations of 1 historian...it makes NO such claim....how about the collaborators??
I have read that piece over. I can't determine whether it is the calculation of 1 historian or not. Nor if other countries Jews are counted. The author does not dispute the claim though, usually it would mean he supports it. But really it is very badly written... Personally I don't have a problem acknowledging Jewish collaborators in Nazi Germany, but this paper is crap, for one thing it doesn't document the source of his claims.

[Bigjon]

Yes, I guess every-one in Sweden didn't notice or are ashamed to admit to that they saw the German army traversing their country on their way to invade Norway in 1940. Can you show a single link to your allegation that Germany invaded Norway via Sweden, apart from hearsay from your cousins? Is it possible that you misinterpreted what they were saying. Cause I have never even heard any Norwegian friends of mine stating that Norway was invaded via Sweden...

No, in fact my cousin was very emphatic about this matter. This was reiterated by another cousin. They are both dead now, so I can't ask again. They both lived near Oslo and worked there, one was an engineer and the other a banker. They were professional people, not day laborers. They were in their twenties when it happened.

I would guess that this would have been a covert operation that wouldn't get talked about by any Swede who wasn't in your secret service. The fact that your country let Germans use your trains would also help to muddy the water when discussing German's and trains.

As far as a link goes there is this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leland_Stowe#cite_note-3) to a note about Leland Stowe in my post 17 (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63370-Adolf-Hitler-The-greatest-story-NEVER-told!&p=570112&viewfull=1#post570112). The Germans took Oslo without firing a shot. According to my cousins they came in by train in the middle of the night and German armor was occupying the streets of Oslo before mornings light.

I have rode on the train from Copenhagen to Oslo where I boarded the train about 9 PM and got into Oslo at 6 AM, not a long distance.

[Neuro]

I discovered a link to some Swedish historians discussing this at a forum. The truth appears to be somewhere in between... A German unit was under siege in the Narvik area in North Norway during the German campaign to occupy Norway between April and June 1940, unofficially the Swedish government allowed a humanitarian transport of 290 medical personnel and 400 tons of supplies from Germany to aid the German unit and the Norwegian civilian population of the area. The Germans tried to smuggle in military materiel, ammo etc, and tried to bribe Swedish officials to look away as they did this, but all military equipment was sent back to Germany. However most of the medical staff was actually military experts according to the German commander of the area. But these were the only troops sent into Norway during the German invasion. After Norwegian capitulation though, there were plenty of troop transports (about 2 million trips in total back and forth between Norway and Germany) and also about 100.000 wagonloads of supplies.

But really it doesn't amount to that the German invasion of Norway went through Sweden. It is impossible that Oslo could have been invaded by German troops coming on a train from Copenhagen, via Sweden, since Copenhagen was invaded the same day as Oslo.

Thanks though for opening my eyes to this, this was nothing that was discussed during the 80's when I grew up, and during the 90's I wasn't much in Sweden, traveling and studying abroad. And for the last 5-6 years I have lived in Istanbul.

[Neuro]

Here is the link to the Forum where the Swedish historians discuss what happened. One of them apparently wrote a book on the subject, unfortunately it is all in Swedish, and I just translated a condensed version of their discussion...

http://forum.skalman.nu/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22602

[LuckyStrike]

this is factual...you AVOIDED the points by casting an absurd burden of "proof"...
for rosenberg, check the jewish virtual library!(jk)

as for your complete dodge- bob -weave- delay- denial of the banking issue it manifests a near complete ignorance of the central issue which brought about the war! ie the collapse of the weimar republic vis a vie a a banking collapse.


and your biggest repeated non answer is; WHY does bnai brith...the adl and the jewish defence league all hold YOUR exact opinion of shikelgruber ??? ( exept the halohoax #s are different.)

I say Hitler was a good guy, they say, like you, he was a bad guy. Now you tell me who holds the same opinion.


But yeah continue to attack me for asking for PROOF of something you said.

[vacuum]

Isn't it possible to be both a good guy and a bad guy? Someone who has the right intentions but is either used or acts out of ignorance to create an overall negative result. I'm sure we've all experienced this on a micro level in our own lives at times.

[LuckyStrike]

Isn't it possible to be both a good guy and a bad guy? Someone who has the right intentions but is either used or acts out of ignorance to create an overall negative result. I'm sure we've all experienced this on a micro level in our own lives at times.

Sure that is possible.

My main complaint with the anti Hitler crowd is just sheer lack of evidence. I'm not claiming it doesn't exist, I just haven't seen it. Like 9/11 ultimately I have to maintain that I can never know 100% what happened, but I do have opinions based on the research I have done. My opinion isn't set in stone, but jd rock isn't doing much for his cause by saying "this person or that person has a jewish sounding name, what do you think of them apples"

[General of Darkness]

I really thought that we had smarter folks on the forum. Hitler lost to the jewish banking cartel and for fuck sake just realize that. Because WWII turned out horribly wrong for Germany you immediately say that Hitler was a shill I say fuck you. You're like the same fuckers in this country that believe that 9/11 happened like the jew wrote it, and it's for the children and they hate us for our increasingly reduced freedoms. Don't worry, I'll be adding you deniers to my ignore list.

[hoarder]

My main complaint with the anti Hitler crowd is just sheer lack of evidence. Maybe it's time to discuss "evidence" and "proof". Since Jews control 95% of the sources of information, are in a position to document events as they happen and 95% of "mainstream" experts are Jews, it only makes sense that they train us to rely on "experts", "documentation" and "reputable sources".

Universities teach us what to believe, not how to think.

So what is "thinking for ourselves" in the absence of trustworthy "experts, documentation and reputable sources"?

The first thing is "CUI BONO". That is a logical test. If all the documentation, experts and reputable sources tell one story while "CUI BONO" tells another, it's time to use more logical tests, like "means, motive, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi".

[LuckyStrike]

Maybe it's time to discuss "evidence" and "proof". Since Jews control 95% of the sources of information, are in a position to document events as they happen and 95% of "mainstream" experts are Jews, it only makes sense that they train us to rely on "experts", "documentation" and "reputable sources".

Universities teach us what to believe, not how to think.

So what is "thinking for ourselves" in the absence of trustworthy "experts, documentation and reputable sources"?

The first thing is "CUI BONO". That is a logical test. If all the documentation, experts and reputable sources tell one story while "CUI BONO" tells another, it's time to use more logical tests, like "means, motive, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi".

Don't misunderstand, we can have discussions on Hitler and come to different conclusions and I will still respect your thoughts as someone whose opinions I value on this forum. But jd rock spouts off at the mouth with some frankly retarded arguments which amount to nothing more than "well their names sound jewish so they must be", I mean that is literally his argument, and I'm hoping for more substance.

As you said, subjects like this it's not like you can crack open a history book and have a debate, and I realize that, like I said this subject is not something I would defend to the death. I have just never heard a good enough argument that would lead me to believe he was an agent. You have made good arguments don't get me wrong, and I understand where you come at this from and your scenario of how it all played out is certainly a possibility and I think mine is as well.

[hoarder]

I'm pretty certain Rosenberg is a Jewish name. I've noticed that names ending with "ler" are usually Jewish with a few exceptions.
Most of these kinds of dicussions are about tiny pieces of a puzzle, none of which conclusively prove anything, but all of which together indicate what is probable.
By the way, I remember a few years back on GIM1 when JD Rock was pissed at me for suggesting Hitler was a Jew.

“All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.” Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

[General of Darkness]

I went from 1 idiot shit bird on ignore to 6 just because of this thread. Good times dickheads.

[Skirnir_]

While we are on the topic, Generalplan Ost would have seen my grandparents sent to Siberia. The vodka monkeys were not much better than the krauts in defence of the latter, and I despise both about equally.

The Germans would have been infinitely better off if they had asked a Lithuanian to become their Fuher. When the other vodka monkeys (before they discovered vodka) asked Jogaila to become their king, for a brief period of time, the geese did not fly backwards, and their dogs did not have flat noses from having chased parked carts. If a Lithuanian duke could have brought about such benefits in Poland, imagine what one could have done with Germany?

[JDRock]

I say Hitler was a good guy, they say, like you, he was a bad guy. Now you tell me who holds the same opinion.


But yeah continue to attack me for asking for PROOF of something you said.

easy peezy here lucky... i dissagree with this....its not an " i think hes good they think hes bad so were different"

its that ESSENTIALLY as ive posted 3 times now, you and the jews embrace the SAME version of hitler! You differ only on approval or dissapproval of the official story. so you BOTH believe,as i said the same version of hitler/shekelgroover as the jewish historians would have us believe, exept the halohoax #s. how can u continue to deny this?? can you please intelligently refute this?

[JDRock]

I went from 1 idiot shit bird on ignore to 6 just because of this thread. Good times dickheads. wow..now THERES a cerebral response! Its great to have deep thinkers on this forum....
So you are so sure of your ability to defeat jewish propaganda with the truth that you shun honest debate?
Remember truth doesnt fear inquirey or debate, nor does it shrink from disscussion....it embraces it.

[General of Darkness]

wow..now THERES a cerebral response! Its great to have deep thinkers on this forum....
So you are so sure of your ability to defeat jewish propaganda with the truth that you shun honest debate?
Remember truth doesnt fear inquirey or debate, nor does it shrink from disscussion....it embraces it.

RIGHT, but complete denial of the holohoax and the truth that the winners write history should be taken into consideration.

I stated this about about a month ago after a conversation with my mother concerning the holohoax. She said that when she was in Berlin in 1950, it would never even have been conceivable that the holohoax happened, there were too many damn jews there. If the hoax had happened you'd think they'd have been scared shitless to even mention the word Germany. Now these are HER words not mine, and here's the best part, she has no interest in lying, but the jews, who own the media, publishing, this fucking country, etc do.

I couldn't imagine being some kike that knows it's a lie and have to keep telling it, over and over and over, because if the world found out, about EVERYTHING we discuss, from Usury etc, they would be hunted down like the filthy animals they are and then the Samsun Option would happen.

So before you want to step up to the plate with b.s., understand I have family that fought on both sides and can offer personal experiences. Or you can keep believing rats like Eli Weasel who survived like 6 or 8 "DEATH" camps and the cocksmoker doesn't even have an arm tat.

[JDRock]

RIGHT, but complete denial of the holohoax and the truth that the winners write history should be taken into consideration.

I stated this about about a month ago after a conversation with my mother concerning the holohoax. She said that when she was in Berlin in 1950, it would never even have been conceivable that the holohoax happened, there were too many damn jews there. If the hoax had happened you'd think they'd have been scared shitless to even mention the word Germany. Now these are HER words not mine, and here's the best part, she has no interest in lying, but the jews, who own the media, publishing, this fucking country, etc do.

I couldn't imagine being some kike that knows it's a lie and have to keep telling it, over and over and over, because if the world found out, about EVERYTHING we discuss, from Usury etc, they would be hunted down like the filthy animals they are and then the Samsun Option would happen.

So before you want to step up to the plate with b.s., understand I have family that fought on both sides and can offer personal experiences. Or you can keep believing rats like Eli Weasel who survived like 6 or 8 "DEATH" camps and the cocksmoker doesn't even have an arm tat.
before you were EVER on forums like these hoarder and i have been disscussing this topic....when in all of my years on gim 1 or 2 or here have i EVER EVER once sided with the likes of weasel?? put it up now. you talk about bs?
it is YOUR position on hitler/ shekelgroover that coincides exactly with weasals...not mine. this is a point of fact, if you wish to change your position now, do so.
so put up more than insults here and show me where i have supported this position. if not , then be honest and retract it.

[General of Darkness]

before you were EVER on forums like these hoarder and i have been disscussing this topic....when in all of my years on gim 1 or 2 or here have i EVER EVER once sided with the likes of weasel?? put it up now. you talk about bs?
it is YOUR position on hitler/ shekelgroover that coincides exactly with weasals...not mine. this is a point of fact, if you wish to change your position now, do so.
so put up more than insults here and show me where i have supported this position. if not , then be honest and retract it.

First off, I never retract anything, secondly I haven't insulted you, you've insulted you, so WTF do you want from me? I take Hitler at face value nothing more, nothing less.

[Bigjon]

First off, I never retract anything, secondly I haven't insulted you, you've insulted you, so WTF do you want from me? I take Hitler at face value nothing more, nothing less.

And you come off as an ignorant know nothing.

Oh, well; It's Saturday night and I've got a nice glass of Shiraz and I suspect the General has a head start on the rest of us.

[hoarder]

First off, I never retract anything.This can mean only one of the following:

You are always right.
You stick to a wrong position when you are proven wrong.

[General of Darkness]

This can mean only one of the following:

You are always right.
You stick to a wrong position when you are proven wrong.

What's your conclusion?

[singular_me]

Isn't it possible to be both a good guy and a bad guy? Someone who has the right intentions but is either used or acts out of ignorance to create an overall negative result. I'm sure we've all experienced this on a micro level in our own lives at times.

from Hitler to Saddam Hussein ... first friends, armed by the West, then turned into international nemeses... it is all about perceptions

Believing that Hitler didnt know that he was "sponsored" by the banksters and other government contractors, ie: multinationals, would be kinda naive.

Saddam got a green-light from Bush senior at the time to invade kuwait... maybe Hitler got the same signal from the PTB to invade poland?

Ron Paul - Wikileaks reveals US approval for Kuwait invasion
http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=30643

However, Hitler most likely escaped to Latin America, we dont know where Saddam is hiding yet but considering his so many body-doubles....

But I digress, what Hitler was doing with the theosophists is something I have begun to investigate...

[hoarder]

What's your conclusion?

You're always right!

[LuckyStrike]

easy peezy here lucky... i dissagree with this....its not an " i think hes good they think hes bad so were different"

its that ESSENTIALLY as ive posted 3 times now, you and the jews embrace the SAME version of hitler! You differ only on approval or dissapproval of the official story. so you BOTH believe,as i said the same version of hitler/shekelgroover as the jewish historians would have us believe, exept the halohoax #s. how can u continue to deny this?? can you please intelligently refute this?

Sure I will refute it as soon as you provide to me PROOF to back up your claims, that shikelgruber is jewish and Rosenberg is jewish. If you don't have hard evidence than do the next best thing and provide examples of what actions (historical fact not your opinion) of why Rosenberg is a jew.

[PatColo]

Haven't watched this one yet, just noticed it posted in Anthony Lawson's YT channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/alawson911), so he must think it's worthwhile. Another positive clue is, opening it, you must "OK" that umm, "members of the YT community:D have labeled the content inappropriate", LOLz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1owF0vgnw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1owF0vgnw

Uploaded by GBPPR2 (http://www.youtube.com/user/GBPPR2) on Apr 16, 2011
Video about the 1933 New York Times (and other newspapers) headline "Judea Declares War on Germany" and accounts of some of the historical events leading up to the start of World War Two, by International Revisionist Video Productions.

Saved from Google Video.

http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html

http://www.tomatobubble.com/id126.html

http://obama.gbppr.org/nytimes_ww2

[Large Sarge]

episode 4, he starts talking about Ben freedman and the Balfour declaration,

This is a really good program

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAG6XXafsNE&feature=relmfu

[hoarder]

Sure I will refute it as soon as you provide to me PROOF to back up your claims, that shikelgruber is jewish and Rosenberg is jewish. If you don't have hard evidence than do the next best thing and provide examples of what actions (historical fact not your opinion) of why Rosenberg is a jew.
http://www.gibiru.com/?cx=partner-pub-5956360965567042%3A8627692578&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=jewish+names+rosenberg&siteurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gibiru.com%2F

What is your definition of "proof"? Documented by Jews? What makes "historical fact" a fact? Because some Jew documented it?

This is why we must rely mostly on logic. For example, we know that Jews use controlled opposition to determine to outcome of wars, so our task is to use logic to determine if Hitlers actions match that of controlled opposition. If you call such a discussion "opinion", you aren't thinking for yourself.

Modus operandi
(m.o.) [( moh -duhs op-uh- ran -dee, op-uh- ran -deye)]


The way someone does something; a characteristic method: “Her modus operandi in buying a new car always included a month of research.” This phrase, often abbreviated “m.o.,” is used by police to describe a criminal's characteristic way of committing a crime. From Latin, meaning “method of operation.”

[Bigjon]

I discovered a link to some Swedish historians discussing this at a forum. The truth appears to be somewhere in between... A German unit was under siege in the Narvik area in North Norway during the German campaign to occupy Norway between April and June 1940, unofficially the Swedish government allowed a humanitarian transport of 290 medical personnel and 400 tons of supplies from Germany to aid the German unit and the Norwegian civilian population of the area. The Germans tried to smuggle in military materiel, ammo etc, and tried to bribe Swedish officials to look away as they did this, but all military equipment was sent back to Germany. However most of the medical staff was actually military experts according to the German commander of the area. But these were the only troops sent into Norway during the German invasion. After Norwegian capitulation though, there were plenty of troop transports (about 2 million trips in total back and forth between Norway and Germany) and also about 100.000 wagonloads of supplies.

But really it doesn't amount to that the German invasion of Norway went through Sweden. It is impossible that Oslo could have been invaded by German troops coming on a train from Copenhagen, via Sweden, since Copenhagen was invaded the same day as Oslo.

Thanks though for opening my eyes to this, this was nothing that was discussed during the 80's when I grew up, and during the 90's I wasn't much in Sweden, traveling and studying abroad. And for the last 5-6 years I have lived in Istanbul.

The fact that the Nazi's were able to take Oslo without firing a shot is damning evidence.

The Nazi's had lots of help from Quisling and I assume other Norwegians. Maybe my cousins were fed a story about Germans and trains through Sweden to cover other guilty parties.

Since the train does run along the coast it could have been loaded from many points. The reason I believe the story about armor coming in on trains is it would be much less noticeable, than a column of armor driving down rural roads into Oslo.

Another reason to believe Sweden would want German's occupying Norway is their sales of iron ore would be cut off, if the British occupied Norway.

[General of Darkness]

The fact that the Nazi's were able to take Oslo without firing a shot is damning evidence.

The Nazi's had lots of help from Quisling and I assume other Norwegians. Maybe my cousins were fed a story about Germans and trains through Sweden to cover other guilty parties.

Since the train does run along the coast it could have been loaded from many points. The reason I believe the story about armor coming in on trains is it would be much less noticeable, than a column of armor driving down rural roads into Oslo.

Another reason to believe Sweden would want German's occupying Norway is their sales of iron ore would be cut off, if the British occupied Norway.

Yeah and now Oslo and Sweden are occupied again without a shot fired. Trust me, if Hitler was still around it wouldn't look like this.

http://vinienco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Oslo-Muslims.jpg

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-Graphics/NorwayMuslimsBurnFlag.jpg

[JDRock]

This can mean only one of the following:

You are always right.
You stick to a wrong position when you are proven wrong.
and so lies the problem......

[JDRock]

Sure I will refute it as soon as you provide to me PROOF to back up your claims, that shikelgruber is jewish and Rosenberg is jewish. If you don't have hard evidence than do the next best thing and provide examples of what actions (historical fact not your opinion) of why Rosenberg is a jew.
no, im beginning this 1 step at a time. the first and only question i will put to you untill i recieve an answer is:

Why does your opinion of shekelgroover and the ASHKEnazis, mirror EXACTLY the official story exepting sentiment and halohoax #s??

[JDRock]

before you were EVER on forums like these hoarder and i have been disscussing this topic....when in all of my years on gim 1 or 2 or here have i EVER EVER once sided with the likes of weasel?? put it up now. you talk about bs?
it is YOUR position on hitler/ shekelgroover that coincides exactly with weasals...not mine. this is a point of fact, if you wish to change your position now, do so.
so put up more than insults here and show me where i have supported this position. if not , then be honest and retract it.

We are waiting for an ON point answer as to the specifics of the question. Please, general in the name of open and honest debate state when and where i have ever held this position. I dont see how truth avoids an exact and pointed response, also i think your position of never retracting your belief is based in pride and is unhealthy to honest debate.

[gunDriller]

Believing that Hitler didnt know that he was "sponsored" by the banksters and other government contractors, ie: multinationals, would be kinda naive.


in the book Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel - definitely one of the best history books about WW2, also not 'pro-Hitler' - they describe a man, a Mr. Trebitsch-Lincoln - something like that - who shows up at one of his speeches and hands him an envelope full of cash.

was it real ? that would require some digging.

once Hitler/ Schickelgruber made it apparent that he had a gift for oratory and a pro-German slant, and that he favored the concept of "sending the Jews to the desert", he fell into favor with the Zionists.

there was also a tension between pro-Israel Jews and Jews who wanted to just stay in Europe. and a tension between Western European Jews, who tended to be wealthier, and Ashkenazi Jews, who sometimes were looked at as 'Riff-Raff'.

the impact of this group dynamic - the alignment of the Ashkenazi Jews with the concept of seizing Palestinian land - could easily be the study of a pHD History program.

[Bigjon]

Yeah and now Oslo and Sweden are occupied again without a shot fired. Trust me, if Hitler was still around it wouldn't look like this.

http://vinienco.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Oslo-Muslims.jpg

http://www.limitstogrowth.org/WEB-Graphics/NorwayMuslimsBurnFlag.jpg

Trust me, Hitler did what he needed to do to insure the Jewish dominance of our western world.

Those Arabs in our cities are there for the reason to deflect blame from the Jews.

Hitler could have contented the German public by retaking those confiscated lands of WWI and then turning Germany into an economic powerhouse. Instead he started many wars on many fronts, Scandinavia, Russia, Africa, France, and Britain. Whenever it looked like the German's had an advantage Hitler stopped them, not some enemy, Hitler did it.

[LuckyStrike]

http://www.gibiru.com/?cx=partner-pub-5956360965567042%3A8627692578&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=jewish+names+rosenberg&siteurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gibiru.com%2F

What is your definition of "proof"? Documented by Jews? What makes "historical fact" a fact? Because some Jew documented it?

This is why we must rely mostly on logic. For example, we know that Jews use controlled opposition to determine to outcome of wars, so our task is to use logic to determine if Hitlers actions match that of controlled opposition. If you call such a discussion "opinion", you aren't thinking for yourself.

Modus operandi
(m.o.) [( moh -duhs op-uh- ran -dee, op-uh- ran -deye)]


The way someone does something; a characteristic method: “Her modus operandi in buying a new car always included a month of research.” This phrase, often abbreviated “m.o.,” is used by police to describe a criminal's characteristic way of committing a crime. From Latin, meaning “method of operation.”

Provide actions that Rosenberg did that would leave you to believe he was a jew.

There were jews and jew sympathizers close to Hitler (probably unbeknownst to him), the Operation Valkryie proved this, but if Hitler was a Rothschild agent I don't see why he would've had multiple assassination attempts from within his own staff.

[LuckyStrike]

Trust me, Hitler did what he needed to do to insure the Jewish dominance of our western world.



Do you have down syndrome by any chance? Because I'm seriously questioning your mental faculties.

I will say this and I hope it can sink in because my entire case rests on this. I will even make the letters nice and big for you.

JEWS ALREADY DOMINATED THE USA, BRITAIN, PRE NAZI GERMANY AND HAD 100% CONTROL OF RUSSIA, SO WHO IN THE FUCK WOULD'VE STOPPED THEM FROM DOING ANY DAMN THING THEY PLEASE? THEY COULD'VE TAKEN PALESTINE AND WHO WOULD'VE INTERVENED? A FEW PISSANT ARAB COUNTRIES?

Seriously, study some more because you are embarrassing yourself.

[LuckyStrike]

in the book Adolf Hitler, Founder of Israel - definitely one of the best history books about WW2, also not 'pro-Hitler'

Wow ya think?

I think we can all agree that the MSM's goal is to make everyone think Hitler=Evil. For some they tell them about the holoco$t and this is all it takes for them to hate Hitler with every fiber of their being, for others who don't believe the holocost they say Hitler was a jew/agent of jews. For Christians they say Hitler was deep in the occult. For pagans they say he was a Christian.

Why can't you see this?

So ultimately you believe like 99.999% of the dumbshits everywhere that hurr durr Hitler was evil.

[LuckyStrike]

no, im beginning this 1 step at a time. the first and only question i will put to you untill i recieve an answer is:

Why does your opinion of shekelgroover and the ASHKEnazis, mirror EXACTLY the official story exepting sentiment and halohoax #s??

I think Hitler was easily the greatest world leader of the 20th century, you think he was one of if not the worst, again just like 99.999% of everyone else who reads jewish BS.

[JDRock]

I think Hitler was easily the greatest world leader of the 20th century, you think he was one of if not the worst, again just like 99.999% of everyone else who reads jewish BS.
As I have said, EXEPTING sentiment....now can we proceed? please read carefully before responding.

[Large Sarge]

Jim Condit has done some good research on this, he is of the opinion hitler was a true wild card for awhile (outside the banker reach)

that seems plausible

also, the obsession with destroying jewish graveyards was his attempt to hide his jewish ancestry, according to condit

[LuckyStrike]

As I have said, EXEPTING sentiment....now can we proceed? please read carefully before responding.

I read carefully, and I still don't know what EXEPTING means.

[JDRock]

I read carefully, and I still don't know what EXEPTING means.
i apologise, i didnt mean to be cryptic. What i meant was sentiment , or specifically feelings of like or dislike is a catagory by itself. To have two differing opinions of the charachter of an individual i.e. hitler, is not the point im seeking to make, i allow for and understand you are extemely at odds with organized jewry in regard to hitlers deeds and ....it is your nearly identical stance on his MOTIVE and charachter that i differ with. And thank you for your measured and thoughtful response lucky...i dont suppose to know all the truth here....im open to your point of view, but hoarders words haunt my thought process - " the end result is usually the intended result" ( hope i got that right.)

[hoarder]

if Hitler was a Rothschild agent I don't see why he would've had multiple assassination attempts from within his own staff.

Take a close look at his staff. Take a good look at Himmler, he was surrounded by Marranos.

[Bigjon]

Do you have down syndrome by any chance? Because I'm seriously questioning your mental faculties.

I will say this and I hope it can sink in because my entire case rests on this. I will even make the letters nice and big for you.

JEWS ALREADY DOMINATED THE USA, BRITAIN, PRE NAZI GERMANY AND HAD 100% CONTROL OF RUSSIA, SO WHO IN THE FUCK WOULD'VE STOPPED THEM FROM DOING ANY DAMN THING THEY PLEASE? THEY COULD'VE TAKEN PALESTINE AND WHO WOULD'VE INTERVENED? A FEW PISSANT ARAB COUNTRIES?

Seriously, study some more because you are embarrassing yourself.

You are seriously retarded if you think the Jews could have outright used their own power without the aid of the deceived idiots like yourself, to attack anyone or anything.

What a nitwit you are, it is their ability to deceive that makes them dangerous and they sure have deceived you. Tell me the first time you hear of Jewish forces attacking an equally armed opposition.

[LuckyStrike]

You are seriously retarded if you think the Jews could have outright used their own power without the aid of the deceived idiots like yourself, to attack anyone or anything.

What a nitwit you are, it is their ability to deceive that makes them dangerous and they sure have deceived you. Tell me the first time you hear of Jewish forces attacking an equally armed opposition.

LOL, welcome to my ignore list.

[LuckyStrike]

the end result is usually the intended result" ( hope i got that right.)

How about "don't let a good crisis go to waste". That is the mantra I see most used when it comes to them.

The end result is the desired result because their side won, to the victor go the spoils.

[Bigjon]

LOL, welcome to my ignore list.

Run and hide like a Jew.

[LuckyStrike]

Run and hide like a Jew.

Or just stop going round and round with someone whose IQ is probably 40 points lower than mine.

[Bigjon]

Or just stop going round and round with someone whose IQ is probably 40 points lower than mine.

Counting up the trash talk points you have in this thread says everything about your IQ. Insults don't pass for intelligence, in my world they are the mark of an incompetent boobus Americanus.

[Neuro]

The fact that the Nazi's were able to take Oslo without firing a shot is damning evidence.

The Nazi's had lots of help from Quisling and I assume other Norwegians. Maybe my cousins were fed a story about Germans and trains through Sweden to cover other guilty parties.

Since the train does run along the coast it could have been loaded from many points. The reason I believe the story about armor coming in on trains is it would be much less noticeable, than a column of armor driving down rural roads into Oslo.

Another reason to believe Sweden would want German's occupying Norway is their sales of iron ore would be cut off, if the British occupied Norway.
Back it up with something apart from your cousins story. I have searched the Internet for info suggesting what you claim and found nothing, it is not my job. Until you find something that support what you say, there is no reason to believe that Sweden allowed Germany to attack Norway from Swedish territory... The fact that Oslo was taken without a shot being fired, suggest that Norway was treasoned from German sympathisers within its own power structures, politicians, and high rank of police and defense force, not from a surprise attack from Swedish territory...

[Bigjon]

Back it up with something apart from your cousins story. I have searched the Internet for info suggesting what you claim and found nothing, it is not my job. Until you find something that support what you say, there is no reason to believe that Sweden allowed Germany to attack Norway from Swedish territory... The fact that Oslo was taken without a shot being fired, suggest that Norway was treasoned from German sympathisers within its own power structures, politicians, and high rank of police and defense force, not from a surprise attack from Swedish territory...

I'm forced to agree with you as I can't find anything at all that corroborates their stories. I just assumed it was true and when I went looking for evidence I was surprised that I couldn't find anything.

[Neuro]

I'm forced to agree with you as I can't find anything at all that corroborates their stories. I just assumed it was true and when I went looking for evidence I was surprised that I couldn't find anything.
Well you are certainly not a lesser man for admitting that you may have been wrong!

[JDRock]

i apologise, i didnt mean to be cryptic. What i meant was sentiment , or specifically feelings of like or dislike is a catagory by itself. To have two differing opinions of the charachter of an individual i.e. hitler, is not the point im seeking to make, i allow for and understand you are extemely at odds with organized jewry in regard to hitlers deeds and ....it is your nearly identical stance on his MOTIVE and charachter that i differ with. And thank you for your measured and thoughtful response lucky...i dont suppose to know all the truth here....im open to your point of view, but hoarders words haunt my thought process - " the end result is usually the intended result" ( hope i got that right.)


still awaiting an ON POINT reply here.....what 3 or 4 times now??

[LuckyStrike]

Insults don't pass for intelligence,

I know, insults didn't get me into Intertel ;)

[LuckyStrike]

still awaiting an ON POINT reply here.....what 3 or 4 times now??

You answer me I answer you, that's how a debate works.

You give ANY evidence or really ANYTHING to back up that rosenberg or shikelgruber is jewish. Right now I'm going on "well they sound jewish" and if that is all the evidence I get, it really doesn't change my mind.

[Bigjon]

I know, insults didn't get me into Intertel ;)

OK, you're smart, how about applying a little logic to the results of WWII and the leader that made it all possible Adolf Hitler?

Nothing good for Germanic people everywhere is what I see and it is not getting any better for us. As far as the average person in the world today the Jew is still hidden behind his victim status granted to him by his enabler Adolf Hitler.

I don't think that Hitler was the brains of Nazi Germany he was just the point man just like most of our American presidents.

[JDRock]

You answer me I answer you, that's how a debate works.

You give ANY evidence or really ANYTHING to back up that rosenberg or shikelgruber is jewish. Right now I'm going on "well they sound jewish" and if that is all the evidence I get, it really doesn't change my mind.
you dont HAVE to change your mind...for that matter ,tell us how we can PROVE that rabbi shneerson was jewish? i mean PROVE it. now stop diverting and answer the question, why does your opinion of shekelgroover mirror that of the jews -PERFECTLY?

[Neuro]

OK, your smart, how about applying a little logic to the results of WWII and the leader that made it all possible Adolf Hitler?

Nothing good for Germanic people everywhere is what I see and it is not getting any better for us. As far as the average person in the world today the Jew is still hidden behind his victim status granted to him by his enabler Adolf Hitler.

I don't think that Hitler was the brains of Nazi Germany he was just the point man just like most of our American presidents.
Hitler lost the war, and the Jews won. That doesn't prove that Hitler was a stooge, does it? Certainly, he made a lot of strategic mistakes, especially from 1942 onwards, but I would put that to the drugs he was on. As far as I can see there is nothing that would implicate Hitler in intentionally losing the war. If there is such evidence I would like to see it!

[Large Sarge]

Hitler lost the war, and the Jews won. That doesn't prove that Hitler was a stooge, does it? Certainly, he made a lot of strategic mistakes, especially from 1942 onwards, but I would put that to the drugs he was on. As far as I can see there is nothing that would implicate Hitler in intentionally losing the war. If there is such evidence I would like to see it!

how could he not lose the war, people have this mistaken belief that as empires grow in size (through conquered land, etc) that they got stronger, the opposite is true, supply lines get longer/more tenuous, language/culture barriers emerge in the newly conquered people, etc

[Bigjon]

Hitler lost the war, and the Jews won. That doesn't prove that Hitler was a stooge, does it? Certainly, he made a lot of strategic mistakes, especially from 1942 onwards, but I would put that to the drugs he was on. As far as I can see there is nothing that would implicate Hitler in intentionally losing the war. If there is such evidence I would like to see it!

It is quite possible that Hitler was playing it straight, but there are all those war blunders. I need to research Hitler's war blunders, as I recall there are many of them. Right out of the box the biggest blunder was not capturing the British Army at Dunkirk. If you want to negotiate a peace you need some chips and he let them drain through his fingers.

The OP video is very good and tells much. To me it paints a picture of a man propelled by circumstances beyond his control. I smell a Jew behind the scenes creating those circumstances and a Jew whispering in Adolf's ear the "right" policy. Whether Adolf was a victim or a knowing accomplice is just conjecture, but he did surround himself with many part Jews.

[Neuro]

It is quite possible that Hitler was playing it straight, but there are all those war blunders. I need to research Hitler's war blunders, as I recall there are many of them. Right out of the box the biggest blunder was not capturing the British Army at Dunkirk. If you want to negotiate a peace you need some chips and he let them drain through his fingers.

The OP video is very good and tells much. To me it paints a picture of a man propelled by circumstances beyond his control. I smell a Jew behind the scenes creating those circumstances and a Jew whispering in Adolf's ear the "right" policy. Whether Adolf was a victim or a knowing accomplice is just conjecture, but he did surround himself with many part Jews.
I do smell a Jew behind the scenes too. As for Hitler letting the British troops go at Dunkirk, I think it was a peace measure towards the Brittish, which he really didn't have a quarell with, in his mind anyway. Certainly he made a major mistake there, but I think the main reason was that he wanted to make peace on the western front, thus Hess went to negotiate peace in 1941, but he was isolated. Hitlers primary objective was to crush Soviet communism, and his strategic mistake was that he thought that England and the US would be on his side, which they weren't. Certainly he shouldn't have diverted troops to Yugoslavia in 1942, as he was attempting to take Soviet union. He might have succeeded if he hadn't, and I think that was his major mistake in wwII.

[Bigjon]

Declares War on the United States
(http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm)
On December 8, 1941, President Franklin D. Roosevelt went before Congress and asked for a declaration of war against Japan. Germany was never mentioned. There was little popular support to expand the war; unless Hitler made some gesture of monumental stupidity, the United States at the time had no official reason to declare war on Germany. British and American strategists were frustrated. They had always presumed that once the United States entered the war, defeating Germany would take priority over Japan. But now it appeared America would take on Japan first while Great Britain fought alone against Germany.

Fortunately for them, four days after Pearl Harbor, Hitler committed one of the most monumental blunders in history. While President Roosevelt needed 517 words to declare war and doom Japan, when Hitler went before the Reichstag he required just 334 to seal the fate of the Third Reich.

In the final month of 1941, a perceptive observer may have noticed the first glimmers of hope for the Allied cause, as German prospects took a turn for the worse. Britain was not only unbowed, it was actively counterattacking wherever possible. More worrying for the Germans was the Soviet counterattack in front of Moscow, where fresh Siberian divisions were tearing at the Wehrmacht's Army Group Center.

Despite these rapidly darkening skies, Hitler, upon hearing news of Pearl Harbor, left his Prussian headquarters—where he had gone to personally deal with the Russian winter offensive—and rushed to Berlin. On December 11, he went before the Reichstag to declare war on the United States. It was an act of suicidal hubris. Although Germany was already locked in a war against Great Britain and the Soviet Union, Hitler, when presented with the opportunity to declare war against a nation capable of producing as many munitions in one year as Germany could in five, did not hesitate or flinch. It was not his first serious blunder, nor his last. It was, however, his most colossal.

Why did he do it? This question has long puzzled historians. Hitler was certainly aware of America's production potential, for he had written about it in Mein Kampf. The simplest answer is that despite this knowledge, he remained unimpressed with American military potential. In 1940, he had told Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov that the United States would not be a threat to Germany for decades—"1970 or 1980 at the earliest." Moreover, Hitler had always believed that war with the United States was inevitable. For him, it was better to have that war at a time of his choosing, and when he could count on Japan siphoning off significant amounts of American power. So Germany, for the second time in a generation, found itself in a two-front war against the combined might of the world's greatest economic powers.

[Neuro]

No matter what, he was in a state of war with America prior to that notice, it was just a matter of short time before Hitler or America would have declared war!

[Bigjon]

No matter what, he was in a state of war with America prior to that notice, it was just a matter of short time before Hitler or America would have declared war!


I disagree, there was a large peace contingent that was speaking out about the Jewish influence and domination of our media and their calls for war. Your fellow Swede Charles Lindbergh and Father Coughlin (http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Charles.E.Coughlin/index.php) were naming the Jew as a war problem.

There are more people of German descent in America than of any other nationality.

There was no need to make it easy for Roosevelt and Hitler did just that.

[Bigjon]

Issues Halt Order at Dunkirk
(http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm)
Still, there was one brief moment when Hitler had it within his power to win the war on one front and remove both France and Britain from his list of antagonists. It had come more than a year and a half earlier, on the coast of northern France. On May 10, 1940, German spearheads brushed aside light resistance in the Ardennes Forest before smashing through the French defensive line at Sedan. Slashing across France, General Heinz Guderian's panzers entered Abbeville, 20 miles from the English Channel, a mere 10 days later. The French army, cut in half and thrown off balance, never recovered its equilibrium.

But even as the Wehrmacht was finishing off France, Hitler's next actions guaranteed the survival of another of his foes, the British Expeditionary Force (BEF), thereby presenting his most committed opponent, Winston Churchill, with a gift of inestimable value: an army with which to continue the struggle.

On May 23, the leading panzer units were only 18 miles from the port at Dunkirk, closer to it than most British units. Although the German troops were exhausted from two weeks of continuous marching and fighting, local commanders judged that they could easily capture the port, and thereby trap the British Army in France. Sensing that a crushing victory was near, Wehrmacht commander in chief Walter von Brauchitsch ordered the city taken. But just before the tanks went forward, Hitler issued his infamous "halt order," stopping them outside Dunkirk.

He never mentioned his rationale for the order; guesses include Hermann Göring's assurance that the Luftwaffe could complete the destruction of the BEF, and Hitler's reluctance to risk his valuable panzers in the unfriendly marsh terrain of neighboring Flanders. Whatever the reason, the halt gave the British two precious days to solidify their defenses around Dunkirk, permitting them to carry out the most famous sealift of modern history. In that end, the Royal Navy, assisted by some French warships and a flotilla of 800 private vessels, pulled 338,226 troops off the beaches at Dunkirk, including 118,000 French, Belgian, and Dutch soldiers. These rescued men provided a veteran core around which Britain rebuilt its army.

Overlooks U-boats' Potential

With the Royal Navy protecting the English Channel and the Royal Air Force denying air dominance to the Luftwaffe, England was safe from invasion. Still, Hitler had one weapon that could take Britain out of the war: the U-boat. In 1917, U-boats came close to bringing Britain to its knees. Despite this, Hitler was slow to see their value. If, during the second half of the 1930s, he had taken the resources wasted on the construction of an almost useless surface fleet and instead applied them to the construction of U-boats, Germany could have started the war with hundreds of these silent killers, rather than 57.

Even with their paucity of numbers, the U-boats came within a hair's breadth of knocking Britain out of the war. By the middle of 1940, Germany had only 25 U-boats left in service. Still, they managed to sink close to 700,000 tons of Allied shipping by the end of the year, or over 225 merchant ships. Despite that success, it was not until February 1941 that Hitler issued Führer Directive 23, ordering a crash program of U-boat production.

Germany went on to build more than 1,100 U-boats during the war, with over 450 still in service in 1945. By early 1943, the U-boats had Britain in desperate straits, and winning the Battle of the Atlantic became the Allies' top priority. Then, in March 1943—almost imperceptibly at first—the tide started to turn. A combination of better tactics, new antisubmarine technology, and a broken German naval code turned the North Atlantic into a submarine graveyard.

U-boats continued sinking Allied ships until the end of the war, but their own losses were unacceptably high. In the end, Germany lost almost 800 U-boats and some 30,000 crewmen. Although they sank close to 14 million tons of Allied shipping, that impressive total was overwhelmed by the nearly 40 million tons of additional shipping the United States alone built during the war. Considering that the entire British merchant fleet in 1940 was less than 18 million tons, it is clear that if Germany had started the war with as many U-boats as it ended with, Britain could not have survived long.

Opens Vast Second Front

But Britain did survive, and was still defiant when Hitler made a blunder second only in folly to his gratuitous declaration of war against the United States: the launch of Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941.

Slightly more than two decades had passed since Germany had last launched a two-front war—and suffered devastating consequences. It therefore took a stunning level of strategic incompetence on Hitler's part to initiate a war in the East when the outcome in the West was still at issue. Tenacity, coupled with flashes of tactical and operational brilliance, kept the German army in the field for four bloody years. And once again, the German military almost made good on Hitler's gamble. But such martial attributes were insufficient to overcome the fundamental strategic mistake that placed them deep into Russia to begin with. It took a number of additional blunders on Hitler's part to crush German hopes of a Drang Nach Osten—"Drive to the East."

Fails to Take Moscow

The first of those blunders came soon after Operation Barbarossa was launched. From the outset, Hitler's military leaders knew that speed was of the essence: they were after a quick contest, not a protracted war. And their initial prospects of winning that race against time were promising: after smashing through the Soviet forward divisions, Army Group Center won a hard-fought battle at Smolensk. At its conclusion, more than 200,000 Soviet prisoners were marched into already overcrowded holding pens, and the road to Moscow was laid bare. Now was the time for a strong, direct thrust at the Soviet capital.

More than just a political objective, Moscow was the nerve center for the Communist Party, a major industrial center, and, most important, the nexus for almost every major rail line in the Soviet Union; if Moscow fell, lateral movement of Soviet forces would become impossible. Moreover, the defeat of Moscow would help cut western Russia off from the eastern armies, which were already beginning their move to the city's aid. In 1812, Russia could give up Moscow to Napoleon and suffer few military consequences. Losing Moscow in 1940 would have been catastrophic to the Soviet cause.

But then Hitler shifted Germany's strategic emphasis: rather than send his forces on to Moscow, at the end of August Hitler ordered General Heinz Guderian to take his Second Panzer Army south to assist the slow-moving Army Group South. By way of explanation, he pointed to the natural resources of the Ukraine and the oil in the Caucasus, both of which he saw as vital to the German war effort. When his generals persisted in protesting this shift in strategy, Hitler exclaimed, "My generals know nothing of economics!" Reluctantly, Guderian took his panzers south, netting another 600,000 prisoners in the Kiev pocket. It was the greatest tactical victory of war, but it was not without cost.

When the advance on Moscow—Operation Typhoon—was renewed on October 2, a precious month had been lost. A combination of stubborn Russian resistance, German overextension, and abysmal weather soon stalled the German offensive just short of its ultimate objective. In late November, when Typhoon was called off, lead German elements were less than 20 miles from Moscow. Only two weeks later, the Russians launched a crippling winter counteroffensive. Unlike Napoleon's Grande Armée, which was shredded after its victory by both the Russians and the winter, Army Group Center did not disintegrate. It did, however, suffer horrific losses and was never again in a position to threaten Moscow. Hitler's chance for a quick and decisive outcome in the East dissolved.


Overvalues Stalingrad as a Target

All hope for victory was not lost, however. In the spring and summer of 1942, a restored Wehrmacht launched a new offensive to secure the Caucasus oil fields. It was at this point that Hitler made a series of misjudgments that doomed a German field army and had dire effects on the overall war effort.

After chastising his generals about Moscow being a mere political target of little military consequence, Hitler, remarkably, allowed himself to be drawn into a battle of prestige for control of Stalingrad. Instead of focusing on the oil fields, he divided his force, sending one to head south toward Baku, the other to take Stalingrad. It was a battle he waged ferociously, long after the city had lost any military utility. Division after division was fed into the Stalingrad maelstrom, where whole battalions were virtually obliterated 24 hours after their commitment. For almost three months, the German Sixth Army pounded at the city until only a small sliver remained in Soviet hands.

Myopically focused on capturing the city named for his mortal enemy, Hitler took no notice of the buildup of Soviet reserves on Sixth Army's weakly held flanks. When the Soviets launched an attack to encircle Sixth Army—Operation Uranus—in mid-November, they quickly shattered first the Romanian and later the Italian and Hungarian armies flanking the city. Two days later, Soviet pincers met at the nearby town of Kalach, entrapping the Sixth Army. For several months the doomed army slowly starved, before finally surrendering on February 2, 1943.

Hitler's maniacal insistence on seizing and holding Stalingrad had cost over 750,000 causalities, and the loss of an irreplaceable field army. It was, up to that point, the greatest single disaster the German army endured.

Gambles All at Kursk

Eventually, the Soviet Stalingrad offensive petered out, and the Germans were given breathing space to consolidate a new defensive line and restore their depleted forces. If they were to have any chance of negotiating a favorable peace, now was the time to fortify in depth, build mobile strike forces for counterattacks—such as Erich von Manstein's successful counteroffensive at Kharkov in February–March 1943—and husband their strength to meet the next Soviet offensive.

Instead, Hitler became fixated on a massive summer offensive aimed at an enormous bulge in the Soviet line around the city of Kursk. Ordering simultaneous thrusts from the north and south, he hoped to trap the Soviet forces within the bulge, or salient, and to tear a gap in their line, allowing the offensive to continue to the east.

If it was the Battle of Stalingrad that decided Hitler would not win the war, it was the Battle of Kursk that decided he would lose it. Aware of the massive preparations the Russians were making around Kursk, many German generals were reluctant to attack; even Hitler had doubts, admitting that the thought of the attack made him feel ill. Despite his foreboding, Hitler eventually ordered it to go forward.
It is a testament to German tactical ability that for 10 days the Wehrmacht pushed doggedly ahead. And for one brief moment, it even seemed as if the horrific losses inflicted upon them would not be in vain. The final defensive belt was breached and the armor of the Fourth Panzer Army massed for the final push. It was at this moment that the Russian commander, General Georgi Zhukov, unveiled his final surprise. The Soviet reserve, comprising the 5th Guards Tank Army, was ordered forward to seal the breech. Near the village of Prokhorovka, the Soviet tanks collided headlong with the onrushing Germans. In what became known as the "Death Ride of the Fourth Panzer Army," both sides fought a close-quarters knife fight with tanks. When it was over, German offensive power in the east was extinguished. The panzer divisions, reconstituted at great cost in the first half of 1943, were shattered. With them went Hitler's hopes of victory.


Reinforces Afrika Korps Too Late

Even as the Germans plodded forward at Kursk, Allied forces were landing at Sicily. That they were able to make relatively short work of the island's defenses and follow up with a rapid invasion of the Italian mainland can be attributed to another of Hitler's blunders. Since early 1941, Hitler had allowed the commander of German forces in North Africa, Erwin Rommel, to conduct an economy-of-force operation there. For two years, Hitler's reluctance to commit more than a trifling amount of troops to the North African sideshow forced Rommel to make his reputation by fighting and generally winning despite being heavily outnumbered.

It was only after the Battle of El Alamein was finally lost, and in the wake of the successful Allied landing in western North Africa—both in early November 1942—that Hitler suddenly decided to massively reinforce Rommel's army. Tens of thousands of German troops were flown and shipped into Tunisia in a forlorn attempt to keep a toehold in North Africa. Hitler's decision came long after all hope of victory had vanished, and had predictable results. Approximately 230,000 Axis troops surrendered at Tunis in May 1943, including most of Rommel's legendary Afrika Korps. These veterans were desperately needed and sorely missed in the contest for Northern Europe.

Hesitates at Normandy

By early 1944, it was apparent to the German general staff and even Hitler that the final contest for control of Northern Europe was not going to be delayed much longer, and that the Allies would soon attempt a Channel crossing. In one of his flashes of intuition, Hitler predicted that the invasion would come at Normandy. Unfortunately for German military planners, he did not have the courage of his convictions. When the Allies actually landed at Normandy, Hitler suspected it was a deception and that their real target was northeast of there, in the Pas-de-Calais region. The upshot for the Allies was that 19 nearby German divisions, including six powerful panzer divisions, spent D-Day idle. Their early commitment to Normandy would have made the Allied beaches a living hell, and might even have thrown the invasion back into the sea. Over the succeeding weeks, Hitler became ever more convinced that the Normandy invasion was a ruse, and it was not until the end of July that he finally approved the movement of a single division from Fifteenth Army, which was guarding the coast near Pas-de-Calais. Once again, it was too late. By the time reinforcing divisions arrived, the German line was hanging by a thread.

In a further blunder on Hitler's part, he had ordered the Normandy front held at all cost. This ensured that when his forces inevitably did give way, the surviving skeleton formations would be incapable of conducting mobile operations or making a stand much short of the defensive fortifications along Germany's western prewar borders.


Issues Prophetic 'Stand and Die' Order

But Hitler's "stand and die" orders had more fateful consequences on the Eastern Front.

Timed to closely coincide with the Allied invasion of Normandy, Stalin had ordered Operation Bagration—the destruction of Germany's Army Group Center—to commence on June 22, 1944, the anniversary of Hitler's invasion of the Soviet Union. Prior to the Soviet attack, Hitler's generals advised him to pull back the army—then trying to hold the city of Minsk—to shorter and more defensible positions, so as to let the offensive hit empty space. Failing to persuade him of the necessity of moving out of the way of the Soviet juggernaut, they begged for permission to establish a defense in depth.

Instead, Hitler ordered most of his forces to hold in their forward positions and countenanced no requests for withdrawal, no matter how desperate the situation. The result was calamitous. In one month's fighting the Soviets obliterated Army Group Center, annihilating 20 divisions in the opening weeks of the offensive—almost as many as the Allies were fighting in Normandy. Only exhaustion brought the Soviet horde to a halt on the Vistula River, across from Warsaw. There they restored their strength and prepared their next big move, into the Reich itself.

Loses Second Gamble at the Ardennes

There was, however, a decent probability that Hitler could have spared East Germany almost two generations of Soviet occupation, if not for his next major misstep. By the end of 1944, Allied armies were poised to enter Germany from both the east and west. Through a maximum effort, the Wehrmacht managed to refit several of its panzer divisions and build a mobile reserve with which to meet the onslaught. The refitted armored formations fell far short of what Germany required to turn the tide of the war. But if these divisions had been deployed to the Eastern Front, they could have held off the Russians just long enough for the Western Allies to advance and occupy most of Germany.

Of course, such thinking never concerned Hitler. Instead, he launched his armor that December at a weak sector of the American front—in the Ardennes Forest—in what has become famous as the Battle of the Bulge. Attacking through the Ardennes was a forlorn hope and doomed from the start. It might delay the Allies, but it had no real chance of reenacting the glorious advance of 1940, which had driven over the same ground. All Hitler gained was a foothold in Belgium that could not be sustained. For that he squandered the bulk of his mobile forces and, with them, Germany's last hope of salvaging something from the disaster about to envelop it.

In the end, it's striking that despite blunder after blunder, Germany resisted the combined might of the world's greatest powers for almost half a decade. This is a testament to the operational capabilities of the German army, which demonstrated remarkable recuperative powers throughout the war. Even as late as 1945, the battered Wehrmacht proved capable of lashing out viciously at its tormentors, inflicting more than two battle losses for every one sustained in the war's final months. But it was all in vain. Prowess on the battlefield could not overcome incompetence at the top. Nor could it erase the fact that the Wehrmacht's vaunted fighting capabilities were harnessed to a vile cause. Humanity should remain forever thankful that that cause was led by one of history's greatest military blunderers.



Jim Lacey is the Professor of War, Policy, and Strategy at the Marine War College. A former U.S. Army infantry officer, he is the author of several books on military history, including the forthcoming First Clash on the Battle of Marathon and Keep From All Thoughtful Men on World War II strategy.

[JDRock]

yes shekelgroover COULD have won the war.
this "german" ( non aryan non german austrian at best) refused to release the panzer divisions in time at the battle of the bulge...a true "genious"!! who, beyond a fool would attack russia and begin a fight history taught was un winnable??
He was either a military idiot, the greatest in history, OR....he knew EXACTLTY what he was doing! (thats why his generals tried to asasinate him-they were real Germans ;) ) then his body mysteriously dissappears and the jews never ever even look for it.....stop believing msm jewish propaganda hitler was NOT anti jew.

[LuckyStrike]

you dont HAVE to change your mind...for that matter ,tell us how we can PROVE that rabbi shneerson was jewish? i mean PROVE it. now stop diverting and answer the question, why does your opinion of shekelgroover mirror that of the jews -PERFECTLY?

He was a rabbi, so that in and of itself lends me to believe that he is also jewish. Have I done DNA tests? No. But he claimed to be a jew, and he was a rabbi, that is as much proof as I can provide.

Now your turn.


I guess ultimately I really don't see how you are expecting to win this argument? By winning I mean changing peoples minds to your beliefs. Because so far, you have made accusations which you have thus far been unwilling or unable to substantiate when pressed.

[LuckyStrike]

Why did he do it? This question has long puzzled historians.

It doesn't puzzle me, for years we had been supplying nations that were at war with Germany, and formally with the lend lease act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

So we were fighting in every way except man power. Hitlers declaration forced Americas hand, basically you are already in the war, now you can suffer casualties if that is your choice. Lest we all forget the jews formally declared war on Hitler in 1933. That and that alone was the start of WWII.

I see the parallels of Iran today, here is a country where the jew controlled West is literally suffocating economically, crippling sanctions etc. These are acts of war by any sane person, so if Ahmadinejad declared war today would it be him who started it? I think not.


I sincerely hope people will take the time to read this, it makes everything so clear. I know it's long and people are busy, but it is so critical.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p389_Hitler.html

It is Hitlers Declaration of War on the US

[iOWNme]

2 things are true:

A. - This thread rocks!

B. - It is quite obvious that our occupiers have TOTALLY destroyed real history. There are 100's of books written for both sides of this touchy subject. There are thousands of different theories, each with a different twist. This keeps people from coming together under a common belief. The conspiracy it seems goes so deep, that upon peeling back layer after layer one finds so much different information, that it is almost hard to determine fact from fiction.

[JDRock]

He was a rabbi, so that in and of itself lends me to believe that he is also jewish. Have I done DNA tests? No. But he claimed to be a jew, and he was a rabbi, that is as much proof as I can provide.

Now your turn.


I guess ultimately I really don't see how you are expecting to win this argument? By winning I mean changing peoples minds to your beliefs. Because so far, you have made accusations which you have thus far been unwilling or unable to substantiate when pressed.

not allegations FACT. stop dodging bobbing weaving and delaying..

Fact : your opinion of hitler mirrors EXACTLY that of the adl, the jewish defense league, and every pro jewish version of history!
Jews: " hitler was an evil jew hater who put them to death in his quest to rid the world of them".

Lucky: "hitler was a WONDERFUL jew hater who put them to death in his quest to rid the world of them" not an exact quote but its your repeatedly stated position.

[JDRock]

ill play your next card for you lucky..... you will say 'thats not a direct quote from me, when did i say that" ??

ill make it easy for you, is it your position or not?
either yes...or no.
if its yes, my point is made,if you say no, you agree with us.....i believe thats game set and match.
oh, wait, theres always denial.

[LuckyStrike]

Lucky: "hitler was a WONDERFUL jew hater who put them to death in his quest to rid the world of them" not an exact quote but its your repeatedly stated position.

No.

I think Hitler was the greatest world leader of the 20th century, against the competition though this in and of itself is not high praise.

I think Hitler sought to remove marxist jews from his society to protect his people from the fate which the Russians endured. When I say remove, I mean make Germany aware of their treachery and let the people themselves carry out the rest, nothing of any holocaust.

[steyr_m]

" hitler was an evil jew hater who put them to death in his quest to rid the world of them"

Hitler's biggest mistake is that he didn't kill the Jews of Europe.

[Neuro]

yes shekelgroover COULD have won the war.
this "german" ( non aryan non german austrian at best) refused to release the panzer divisions in time at the battle of the bulge...a true "genious"!! who, beyond a fool would attack russia and begin a fight history taught was un winnable??
He was either a military idiot, the greatest in history, OR....he knew EXACTLTY what he was doing! (thats why his generals tried to asasinate him-they were real Germans ;) ) then his body mysteriously dissappears and the jews never ever even look for it.....stop believing msm jewish propaganda hitler was NOT anti jew.
Attacking Soviet Union was a necessity, they were preparing to attack Germany. But some very strategic/tactical blunders were committed in the Soviet campaignand Hitler bears sole responsibility for those...

I agree with Bigjon, it seems incredibly idiotic to declare war on the US, while at the same time being entangled with the Soviet campaign.

[JDRock]

Hitler's biggest mistake is that he didn't kill the Jews of Europe.
agreed, ..but WHY?

[LuckyStrike]

I agree with Bigjon, it seems incredibly idiotic to declare war on the US, while at the same time being entangled with the Soviet campaign.

Have you read his Declaration of War on the US I posted earlier, as well as my post?

[steyr_m]

Have you read his Declaration of War on the US I posted earlier, as well as my post?

Agreed, you have to read it to understand it.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p389_Hitler.html

[steyr_m]

agreed, ..but WHY?

I'm not talking about the everyday "Joe Schlomo" I'm talking about the elite....

[LuckyStrike]

He was either a military idiot, the greatest in history, OR....he knew EXACTLTY what he was doing! (thats why his generals tried to asasinate him-they were real Germans ;) )

You're ignorance of military history is showing. Let's see the people who opposed Hitler


Henning von Tresckow
"He regarded the Kristallnacht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht) (state-sanctioned, nationwide pogrom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom) of Jews) as personal humiliation and degradation of civilization."

Tresckow appealed passionately to Field Marshal Fedor von Bock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_von_Bock): "Never may such a thing happen again! Therefore we must act now. We have the power in Russia!"



Hans Speidel
Speidel was a German nationalist and was happy with some Nazi policies (e.g., fighting against France, reversing the Treaty of Versailles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles), etc.), but was ashamed of Nazi Germany's racial policies. He was involved in the July 20 Plot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_20_Plot) to kill Adolf Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler), but managed to evade Gestapo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo) attempts to find all involved. He was suspected however and was eventually arrested on 7 September 1944 by the Gestapo and accused of being involved in the July Plot. Under interrogation he admitted nothing and did not betray anyone. Speidel appeared before an Army Court of honour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_honour), but Gerd von Rundstedt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerd_von_Rundstedt), Heinz Guderian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Guderian) and Wilhelm Keitel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Keitel) decided not to expel him from the German Army, thus meaning he would not appear before Roland Freisler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Freisler)'s People's Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksgerichtshof). Rommel, in his final letter to Hitler of 1 October 1944, appealed for Speidel's release, but received no answer. He was jailed for seven months by the Gestapo, then tried to escape and went into hiding, waiting for the Allies. He was freed by French troops on 29 April 1945. Speidel was one of the inner circle of conspirators (the only one not to be executed or commit suicide), and had been delegated by anti-Hitler forces to recruit Rommel for the conspiracy - which he had cautiously begun to do prior to Rommel's injury in a Canadian strafing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafing) attack on 17 July 1944.

After the war Speidel served for some time as professor of modern history at Tübingen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eberhard_Karls_University_of_T%C3%BCbingen) and in 1950 published his book Invasion 1944: Rommel and the Normandy Campaign before being involved in both the development and creation of the new German Army (Bundeswehr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr)) which he joined, reaching the NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) rank of full general. He was subsequently appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Allied NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) ground forces in Central Europe in April 1957, a command that he held until retirement in September 1963.


Yeah, what patriotic Germans, with "power" in Russia, and becomes the first German to lead NATO in Europe. Give me a break.

You are in over your head jdrock.

[Neuro]

Have you read his Declaration of War on the US I posted earlier, as well as my post?
Yes, I have just read the declaration. The blatant disrespect of international law of the Roosevelt regime is clear, no doubt from a judicial perspective Hitlers Germany was entitled to declare war on USA, however I have to maintain that strategically the timing of the declaration couldn't have happened at a worser time. However maybe it didn't matter so much since the Americans in all intents and purposes were at war with Germany already, without a declaration of war by congress (sounds familiar)...

[PatColo]

I was just re-reading on Patton's murder. Bro Nat did this piece a couple years ago,

Did Jews Kill General Patton? (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=594)
much more out there, just do a search.

[JDRock]

I was just re-reading on Patton's murder. Bro Nat did this piece a couple years ago,

Did Jews Kill General Patton? (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=594)


much more out there, just do a search.
hmmm the trail leads to.....

[JDRock]

You're ignorance of military history is showing. Let's see the people who opposed Hitler


Henning von Tresckow


"He regarded the Kristallnacht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht) (state-sanctioned, nationwide pogrom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogrom) of Jews) as personal humiliation and degradation of civilization."

Tresckow appealed passionately to Field Marshal Fedor von Bock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_von_Bock): "Never may such a thing happen again! Therefore we must act now. We have the power in Russia!"



Hans Speidel


Speidel was a German nationalist and was happy with some Nazi policies (e.g., fighting against France, reversing the Treaty of Versailles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles), etc.), but was ashamed of Nazi Germany's racial policies. He was involved in the July 20 Plot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_20_Plot) to kill Adolf Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler), but managed to evade Gestapo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo) attempts to find all involved. He was suspected however and was eventually arrested on 7 September 1944 by the Gestapo and accused of being involved in the July Plot. Under interrogation he admitted nothing and did not betray anyone. Speidel appeared before an Army Court of honour (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_of_honour), but Gerd von Rundstedt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerd_von_Rundstedt), Heinz Guderian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_Guderian) and Wilhelm Keitel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Keitel) decided not to expel him from the German Army, thus meaning he would not appear before Roland Freisler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roland_Freisler)'s People's Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksgerichtshof). Rommel, in his final letter to Hitler of 1 October 1944, appealed for Speidel's release, but received no answer. He was jailed for seven months by the Gestapo, then tried to escape and went into hiding, waiting for the Allies. He was freed by French troops on 29 April 1945. Speidel was one of the inner circle of conspirators (the only one not to be executed or commit suicide), and had been delegated by anti-Hitler forces to recruit Rommel for the conspiracy - which he had cautiously begun to do prior to Rommel's injury in a Canadian strafing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafing) attack on 17 July 1944.

After the war Speidel served for some time as professor of modern history at Tübingen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eberhard_Karls_University_of_T%C3%BCbingen) and in 1950 published his book Invasion 1944: Rommel and the Normandy Campaign before being involved in both the development and creation of the new German Army (Bundeswehr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundeswehr)) which he joined, reaching the NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) rank of full general. He was subsequently appointed Commander-in-Chief of the Allied NATO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO) ground forces in Central Europe in April 1957, a command that he held until retirement in September 1963.


Yeah, what patriotic Germans, with "power" in Russia, and becomes the first German to lead NATO in Europe. Give me a break.

You are in over your head jdrock.
again..the END result reveals original intention..thanx for proving that in yet another post!....still hows that officiaL ADL POSITION ON HITLER WORKING FOR YOU??

[JDRock]

Attacking Soviet Union was a necessity, they were preparing to attack Germany. But some very strategic/tactical blunders were committed in the Soviet campaignand Hitler bears sole responsibility for those...

I agree with Bigjon, it seems incredibly idiotic to declare war on the US, while at the same time being entangled with the Soviet campaign.
show me ONE military opinion on this calling it anything but military suicide! i strongly disagree, if russia was massing for an attack they were doing so WITHOUT tanks and supplies which they didnt get till after roosenfeldt the 4th jewish leader btw, gave them the hardware! it was ALL retreat till winter. that doesnt sound like "ready to attack" to me.

[JDRock]

Maybe it's time to discuss "evidence" and "proof". Since Jews control 95% of the sources of information, are in a position to document events as they happen and 95% of "mainstream" experts are Jews, it only makes sense that they train us to rely on "experts", "documentation" and "reputable sources".

Universities teach us what to believe, not how to think.

So what is "thinking for ourselves" in the absence of trustworthy "experts, documentation and reputable sources"?

The first thing is "CUI BONO". That is a logical test. If all the documentation, experts and reputable sources tell one story while "CUI BONO" tells another, it's time to use more logical tests, like "means, motive, opportunity, modus operandi and modus agendi".
this is telling....how can people expect logical factual debate while in ignorance of this??

[Neuro]

show me ONE military opinion on this calling it anything but military suicide! i strongly disagree, if russia was massing for an attack they were doing so WITHOUT tanks and supplies which they didnt get till after roosenfeldt the 4th jewish leader btw, gave them the hardware! it was ALL retreat till winter. that doesnt sound like "ready to attack" to me.
According to German statistics, they had until 1st of December 1941, captured the following from the Soviet Union forces:

As of December 1, the total number of captured Soviet Russian prisoners was 3,806,865. The number of destroyed or captured tanks was 21,391, of artillery pieces 32,541, and of airplanes 17,322.
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p389_Hitler.html
It appears they were in dire needs to have those replaced by rosenfeld. To claim they didn't have any arms prior is not correct, they were armed to their teeths!

[LuckyStrike]

I was just re-reading on Patton's murder. Bro Nat did this piece a couple years ago,

Did Jews Kill General Patton? (http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=594)


much more out there, just do a search.

Here is another article, not written by a jew.

http://rense.com/general75/allies.htm





Even Patton said we fought on the wrong side of that war, destroyed the greatest race in Europe and turned it over to the communists. But yeah JDROCK knows more than General Patton.

[steyr_m]

show me ONE military opinion on this calling it anything but military suicide! i strongly disagree, if russia was massing for an attack they were doing so WITHOUT tanks and supplies which they didnt get till after roosenfeldt the 4th jewish leader btw, gave them the hardware! it was ALL retreat till winter. that doesnt sound like "ready to attack" to me.

Q: Did you agree with Hitler's policies, particularly his policy toward Russia?

A: Regarding the military campaign against the Soviet Union:

First of all, it should be clearly understood that at the time of the Balkans campaign in Yugoslavia and Greece in early 1941, when we had ten divisions on the entire length of the Soviet border, the Russians had stationed 247 major military formations on our border. After the conclusion of the Balkans campaign, we then quickly placed at most 170 major military units on the border with the Soviet Union. The Russians had readied themselves for an attack.

The initial successes of our forces against the Soviets were due to the fact that the Russians were not stationed in defense positions, but were instead positioned right at the front for attack, which made it possible for us to quickly encircle large Soviet forces. Thus, in the first weeks of the war, we were able to capture more than three million prisoners of war as well as enormous quantities of war equipment, all of which was on the frontier, positioned for attack.

That's the truth of the matter, which can be proven. I recently spoke with a Mr. Pemsel, who was a long-range aerial reconnaissance pilot. In the period before the beginning of the Soviet campaign, he flew as far as the Don River and observed and reported on this enormous concentration of Soviet forces on the border.

I also know from my own experience in the Russian campaign, and with the Russian prisoners, about the preparations by the Soviets for an imminent attack against Europe. The Russians were hoping that we would move against Britain so that they could then take advantage of the situation to overrun Europe.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v10/v10p108_Schoeman.html

[LuckyStrike]

again..the END result reveals original intention

Yes you are correct. Anti marxist Germany was defeated as the US, UK joined forces with with Marxists Russians. Pretty clear huh.

[JDRock]

Yes you are correct. Anti marxist Germany was defeated as the US, UK joined forces with with Marxists Russians. Pretty clear huh.

again you use the names that the jewish education system and the jewish press would want you to.
marx? no such person, try mordechai levi.

[Neuro]

again you use the names that the jewish education system and the jewish press would want you to.
marx? no such person, try mordechai levi.
The problem with using a term like Mordechai Levi Communist instead of Marxist, is that no-one would understand what you are talking about. Can't you argue against the substance of his argument instead of its form. Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?

[JDRock]

The problem with using a term like Mordechai Levi Communist instead of Marxist, is that no-one would understand what you are talking about. Can't you argue against the substance of his argument instead of its form. Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? the essence of this thread is jews hiding behind gentile names...so i think its substantive re- hoarders last post.

[steyr_m]

Threads about AH always make the liveliest discussions.

[Neuro]

the essence of this thread is jews hiding behind gentile names...so i think its substantive re- hoarders last post.
That Hitler was surrounded by Marranos? Sorry, I can't see the connection with the point you are alluding to...

Yes, it is well known that Jews change their name, I don't think many here are not aware of that. But you bring up a point to LuckyStrikes post, that have no bearing on the essence of his post. Adolf Hitler didn't change his name, his father did. What should Adolf had done? Change back to his Grandmothers maiden name, because his grandfathers identity was at question? And the essence of the thread is Adolf Hitler IMO.

I really haven't made up my mind whether Hitler was a Zionist plant or not, but you don't provide very convincing arguments for your case.

[JDRock]

That Hitler was surrounded by Marranos? Sorry, I can't see the connection with the point you are alluding to...

Yes, it is well known that Jews change their name, I don't think many here are not aware of that. But you bring up a point to LuckyStrikes post, that have no bearing on the essence of his post. Adolf Hitler didn't change his name, his father did. What should Adolf had done? Change back to his Grandmothers maiden name, because his grandfathers identity was at question? And the essence of the thread is Adolf Hitler IMO.

I really haven't made up my mind whether Hitler was a Zionist plant or not, but you don't provide very convincing arguments for your case.
what the prosecution is trying to establish here, is that history shows there is ALOT of long term strategic planning on the part of jews...and is it unthinkable that the authors of "to defeat the enemy BECOME the enemy" should be discounted from having a hand here? actions speak louder than words...shikel, always seemed to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory.
and, tell me, the great disappearing act habeas corpus. where the hell is shikels body and WHY to this day never ever ever has a credible energetic search for allegedly the jews # 1 enemy been made?? there still scouring the jungles in south america looking for obscure camp guards but shikel? nahh.. no need to look for HIM.

[steyr_m]

what the prosecution is trying to establish here, is that history shows there is ALOT of long term strategic planning on the part of jews...and is it unthinkable that the authors of "to defeat the enemy BECOME the enemy" should be discounted from having a hand here? actions speak louder than words...shikel, always seemed to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of certain victory.
and, tell me, the great disappearing act habeas corpus. where the hell is shikels body and WHY to this day never ever ever has a credible energetic search for allegedly the jews # 1 enemy been made?? there still scouring the jungles in south america looking for obscure camp guards but shikel? nahh.. no need to look for HIM.

What the F are you talking about?

[JDRock]

..so far we had an aversion/ inability to understand the word "sentiment"...now, a multi point post is ridiculed instead of answered!

[hoarder]

Adolf Hitler didn't change his name, his father did. What should Adolf had done? Either way, they were members of the name changing tribe. This is something that seems to get glossed over. We already know that when someone changes his name (with the exception of wives taking husbands name of course), it indicates with at least 90% certainty that they are a member of that special tribe.

[Neuro]

Either way, they were members of the name changing tribe. This is something that seems to get glossed over. We already know that when someone changes his name (with the exception of wives taking husbands name of course), it indicates with at least 90% certainty that they are a member of that special tribe.
I don't think the fact that Alois changed name to his Mothers husbands name (who may have been his father) after having been born out of wedlock, is an indication that he was Jewish. Even if he wasn't his biological father, he may have been a father for him. It would probably have been seen by the surroundings that he rejected him as a father, possibly also losing his inheritance.

Btw is Schickelgruber a Jewish name?

[JDRock]

shikel is yiddish for shekel, and gruber is in the dictionary of jewish surnames...so maybe.
to me its his ACTIONS more than lineage which point to the tribe here.
1. the killing and incarceration of small time poor jews is EXACTLY what the protocols states.
2 the LACK of killing and incarcerating uber rich banking jews....( the real problem)
3. the acceptance of huge sums of $ FROM the jew bankers- source , veterans today.
3.avoiding the advise of his generals as to how to actually WIN the war. ( this is debatable)
4.the mysterous disappearing act after he "suicided".
5. the complete and TOTAL lack of interest of the jews in finding his body living or dead! WOW!
these are just a few...

[hoarder]

6. The killing of the "Brownshirts".

[Bigjon]

Part 1 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkGJsE0Ptk



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTkGJsE0Ptk



Part 2 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5l2dGYV2s0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5l2dGYV2s0




Part 3 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZuHzi148do


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZuHzi148do

[Bigjon]

Part 4 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VJ5bU3ga58


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VJ5bU3ga58





Part 5 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqW9rvh8R6g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqW9rvh8R6g





Part 6 of 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3tGWZ1dXqI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3tGWZ1dXqI

[Bigjon]

Addendum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyctcE4eQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNnyctcE4eQ

[LuckyStrike]

bigjon where do you find these people? If I had lunatics like this on my side of the argument I wouldn't parade them around.

Taken from his website

George Lucas quite naturally believes that he wrote "Starwars", when, in reality, he was told telepathically what to write in the original first three Episodes (4-6), by the very "Force" to which the films refer, and was "forced" to make only episodes 4-6, first, as a very important step in the preparation of mankind for the long-awaited TRUTH, about the real reasons for human life on Earth ("what on earth am I doing here?"), the meaning of life and its purpose, contained in "The Way home or face The Fire (http://www.jahtruth.net/wayad.htm)", from which episodes 1-3 should have been made, as I did my best, frequently, to tell him.

Unfortunately George Lucas has exercised his "Free-will"; ignored me and made Episode 1 - "The Phantom Menace"; with arrogant actors who publicly ridicule the real message and the real fans, which undermines the original theme and Divine Message; contradicts it and is mere fiction (lies), telepathically fed to him by the Dark-side force (Satan), to try to confuse everyone and undo the good (God's) message contained in the earlier three films (Episodes 4-6). This is Satan's standard-practice and very predictable. He has done it with the Old Testament; New Testament and Koran and the three major religions who claim to be based on them.

Not understanding that he was being told telepathically, Lucas thinks that "Starwars" came from his imagination, which is a perfectly normal human reaction that many people have had over the centuries. Rudyard Kipling thought that he wrote "IF" (http://www.jahtruth.net/if.htm); Oscar Wilde thought that he wrote "The Picture of Dorian Gray"; Joe Darion thought he wrote the words to "The Impossible Dream"; Steven Spielberg thinks he wrote " (http://www.jahtruth.net/closeenc.htm)Close Encounters of the Third Kind" (http://www.jahtruth.net/closeenc.htm) and the list is endless.

Although "Starwars" (Episodes 4-6) is set as science-fiction and in a distant galaxy to make it entertaining, it actually refers to this galaxy and life on Earth.

There actually was a REAL star war (http://www.jahtruth.net/wayintro.htm) thousands of human years ago, in this galaxy, on the "Morning Star" [Venus] (Revelation 12 v 7; 22 v 16; Isaiah 14 v 12 in the king James Authorised Version of the Bible [which was the ONLY translation worth reading until the new "King of kings' Bible" (http://www.jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm) was completed]); (Koran sura 6:76 and 86:1-4) and you were ALL on the losing side.

It is IMPERATIVE that I say, at this point, that the "Star" of Bethlehem was a SPACESHIP and that God and Christ are aliens and the Books known to you as the Old Testament; New Testament and Koran are NOT religious Books in the way that you all think of religion today. These Books are a guide/map sent by the "Force" from the Morning Star and which have been taken and used; abused and mis-interpreted by the various Religious Organisations for their own material benefit.

http://www.jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

This article was linked to in the vid by the way.....

[Bigjon]

bigjon where do you find these people? If I had lunatics like this on my side of the argument I wouldn't parade them around.

Taken from his website

http://www.jahtruth.net/starwar.htm

This article was linked to in the vid by the way.....

Yes, I had only watched the first video when I put this up. I guess one should look before leaping.

Look at it as entertainment, is all I can say.

[iOWNme]

Eustace Mullins explains that the treaty between the NAZI's and the World Zionist Party in 1923 created a merger between the two. 'NA' in NAZI stands for National Socialism, and the 'ZI' stands for Zionists, or so he says.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QYnzpvUK90&feature=endscreen&NR=1

[iOWNme]

Hard to argue with the facts......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2v2VSAgFAY

[General of Darkness]

OMG some of you people do get on my last nerve.

Take 6 - 8 hours and go to http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/ before you post in this thread again. Yeah, I spent a weekend several years ago watching these videos, you will be shocked.

[steyr_m]

OMG some of you people do get on my last nerve.

Take 6 - 8 hours and go to http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/ before you post in this thread again. Yeah, I spent a weekend several years ago watching these videos, you will be shocked.

I was stunned the first time I watched it. My world view changed significantly after seeing the series of videos. I think it's about 4-4.5 hrs, 6-8 if you watch everything [dunno if I'd want to watch the idiot Donahue again].

[Libertarian_Guard]

OMG some of you people do get on my last nerve.

Take 6 - 8 hours and go to http://www.onethirdoftheholocaust.com/ before you post in this thread again. Yeah, I spent a weekend several years ago watching these videos, you will be shocked.

I cannot get any video to play. The site loads, but no video plays.

[iOWNme]

Interesting take on the '6 million' number. He claims that Hitler created 6 million jobs for the German people who were starving. The Zionists then used this as their base for their supposed 'Holocaust'.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2FhXZ9tiw&feature=g-vrec

[sirgonzo420]

Interesting take on the '6 million' number. He claims that Hitler created 6 million jobs for the German people who were starving. The Zionists then used this as their base for their supposed 'Holocaust'.

...

That 6 million figure goes back a ways....

[DMac]

That 6 million figure goes back a ways....

I have a post somewhere on here with Rabbi quotes from pre-WW1 complaining 6 million will die, post WW1 that 6 million are dying, and pre-WW2/post-WW2 about 6 million dying or dead.

They been playing that card for a long time. In the post I have (don't have time to search right now) I also post some sections of the Talmud that reference the magic number 6.

[singular_me]

Since theosophy is a cartel of evil intents aiming at debasing populaces' awareness subliminally, I can see why the number 6 has to be repeated over and over (into oblivion), to echo series of 666 ... again 60 degrees represent the angles of a triangle (3X6), hence the pyramid worshiped by many secret societies . The two triangles forming the jewish flag, reads as "from the top down and from down up to the top" ... or as above so below.

(of course the intent defines everything as all numbers are dual by nature. Just as dual as electro-magnetism whose forces are inescapable. Our synapses wouldnt work without this duality within us. Polarization of thoughts/emotions is what morphs humans into herds. If we all learned as how to center/balance ourselves, evil wouldnt take place. Keeping evil check mate is a one by one at the time achievement. Theosophists bank on the fact we will never get it)

[Horn]

Was adolf hitler bipolar?


Winston Churchill was said to be bipolar along with many many other famous people please see links below.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071004163155AAeN9Vf

[General of Darkness]

Here's 4+ HOURS of documentation you deniers of the TRUTH.

FYI

THE FINAL SOLUTION = Working, JEWS, WORKING


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzBpcuE8mpc&list=PLED4007C9823295A1&index=8&feature=plpp_video

[Neuro]

Hard to argue with the facts......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2v2VSAgFAY
Interesting the coin/medal with a Swastika on one side and Star of David on the other, in celebration of laying the foundation of the Jewish homeland in Palestine. That is pretty damning evidence in terms of connection between the National Socialists and the Zionists... TWO SIDES OF THE SAME COIN!

[iOWNme]

http://littleguyintheeye.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/zionist-nazi-coin.jpg?w=700

[Bigjon]

Here's 4+ HOURS of documentation you deniers of the TRUTH.

FYI

THE FINAL SOLUTION = Working, JEWS, WORKING


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzBpcuE8mpc&list=PLED4007C9823295A1&index=8&feature=plpp_video

I posted these links on GIM long before we ever heard of you GoD.

What does this have to do with the question of whether or not Hitler was a Jew or a dupe of the Jews?

[JDRock]

http://littleguyintheeye.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/zionist-nazi-coin.jpg?w=700
Stop "denying"the truth...just because some self important person saw a You tube video! yes,absolutely NO connection to hitler and the zios!, exept lineage...money...mission...and final outcome. when will these guys take the red pill and stop believing jewish propaganda?

[PatColo]

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[Norweger]

Stop "denying"the truth...just because some self important person saw a You tube video! yes,absolutely NO connection to hitler and the zios!, exept lineage...money...mission...and final outcome. when will these guys take the red pill and stop believing jewish propaganda?

The only one spewing jewish propaganda here is you. You seem to be obsessed with posting this nonsense almost as if it was your job or something. Who ultimately benefits from your stupid angle on world history? The jews.. that's who.

[JDRock]

not. So far YOUR "official story" COMPLETELY is in agreement with the jews! we have gone over this again and again and STILL you refuse to explain WHY your opinion of shekelgroover mirrors that EXACTLY of the jewish historians! "hitler was a jew hating goy who tried to exterminate the jews every chance he could"
when in reality the truth is the OPPOSITE of the mainstream jewish opinion.
shekelgroover was NOT aryan...NOT a gentile...and NOT EVEN a GERMAN! where do you get this shit from???

[Norweger]

When you follow that line of reasoning which claims that Hitler worked for jewish finance and was a jew him self then eventually you will be led to the holocaust and how he did that to help legitimize Israel.

The Holocaust is as every informed individual knows all bogus and so is your fairytale.

[JDRock]

^^^ its ALL a fairy tale...the 6 million...the halocaust...the poor victimized jew...and the "evil" shekelgroover in that you are correct its ALL a sham! 100% of the "official" story....follow the money it all leads back to the same pair of hands.

[PatColo]

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[learn2swim]

Hitler did more to support the Zionist cause than anybody in history.

[gunDriller]

the Versailles treaty, at the end of WW1, took disputed land away from Germany and gave it to Poland and France.


a re-invigorated Germany later came back and told Poland, "this is our land."

as far as i can tell, Germany's actions at the beginning of WW2 were related to breaking free from the straitjacket of the Versailles Treaty.


(please edumacate me on this if you know differently.)

[Norweger]

Ok, lets for the sake of the argument assume that Hitler was a Rothschild (herp derp).

What would have happened if he didn't do anything? And please enlighten me how doing nothing would have been more beneficial for Europe. (since everything he did was beneficial for the zionists)

[Norweger]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Clv-c6QdBs

Quit being dumb.

[steyr_m]

Ok, lets for the sake of the argument assume that Hitler was a Rothschild (herp derp)

I've heard the AH was a Rothschild before. His political testament, written just before he died, had the sentence that is below. Doesn't sound like a Khazar--

"Above all I charge the leaders of the nation and those under them to scrupulous observance of the laws of race and to merciless opposition to the universal poisoner of all peoples, international Jewry."

[steyr_m]

I have to add that when this was first posted, I saw that only up to part 9 was available. I see that now it is up to 19 [or that is the highest that is on the side-bar].

[kiffertom]

Hitler invaded Norway through Sweden. The Swedes made a deal and let Germany load it's tanks and armor on Swedish trains to invade Norway through the back door. The traitor Quisling, Norways minister of defense took down the border patrols so the German's had smooth passage all the way into Oslo and other strategic points. This is what my cousin's told me. You can't find one mention of it in the official history, must be politically incorrect to remind the Swedes of their cowardly treachery. My cousin's were a lot madder at the Swedes than at the Germans.i dated a norweigan girl. she told me almost the exact same thing! vidkin quisling is their benedict arnold! today its illegal in norway to name you child vidkin or adolf!and if you ask a swede about this they hang their head in shame! yahvla svenska faen! damn swedish devil!

[Dogman]

i dated a norweigan girl. she told me almost the exact same thing! vidkin quisling is their benedict arnold! today its illegal in norway to name you child vidkin or adolf!and if you ask a swede about this they hang their head in shame! yahvla svenska faen! damn swedish devil!

Funny that right now I am reading a E-book called "Jump into hell" about German paratroopers doing their thing from the start to the end back when and the book did mention the Norway thing.

Any one interested pm me and I will send the e-book in what ever format you want.

[JDRock]

I've heard the AH was a Rothschild before. His political testament, written just before he died, had the sentence that is below. Doesn't sound like a Khazar--

"Above all I charge the leaders of the nation and those under them to scrupulous observance of the laws of race and to merciless opposition to the universal poisoner of all peoples, international Jewry."
NEVER listen to what they SAY...watch what politicians DO. And follow the money.

[steyr_m]

NEVER listen to what they SAY...watch what politicians DO. And follow the money.

Yes, he waged war [financial and actual] against the central bankers; but he lost.

[gunDriller]

"Above all I charge the leaders of the nation and those under them to scrupulous observance of the laws of race and to merciless opposition to the universal poisoner of all peoples, international Jewry."

sounds a little like Henry Ford.

i like Henry Ford.

[PatColo]

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[mick silver]

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[PatColo]

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Anon5351: I WILL NOT STOP, until RBN is bankrupt

??? ^

[mick silver]

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[PatColo]

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Initially I had intended creating a piece titled “10 Myths about Hitler” but decided that there were so many, that I switched topic slightly.
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I understand like most of my work, these areas outlined only give a flavor and are not conclusively resourced. But that’s OK. It’s a carrot and hopefully just enough for people (even skeptics) to do their own research on these controversial areas. When people find things out for themselves, this has much more substance. All these areas are verifiable. They just take a bit objective, independent research. There are links at the bottom of the page to help one’s research.
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1/. He never wanted to kill any Jews
Whenever you hear anyone espouse (repeat) the lies about Hitler the nasty Jew-killer. Please always make a point of asking this very simple question: “Where did you get that information from?”
Perhaps we all at some point have repeated this fable. Why would we not, when it’s shoved down our throats 24/7, year in year out for decades(?) There hasn’t been a man on this planet who has been demonized as much as Herr Hitler.
If Hitler wanted to kill Jews, why oh why throughout all his speeches and manuscripts and his book Mein Kampf did he not mention this? Did he just forget? No, he didn’t say or write it BECAUSE HE HAD NO INTENTION OF KILLING THE JEWS.
No matter what amount of destruction he had observed done by the Jews to his people; he had enough self-discipline and ethical code not to take revenge. Being a strong character, he was able to rise above the darkness, the demonic standards of the judaic mindset and show self-restraint and humility.
That is why he created ‘containment work camps’ for the Jews and certainly NOT death camps.
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Because he was one of the good guys. k
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2/. He cared about conditions for the Jews in the work camps
Unbeknown to billions of people the Nazi camps were not death camps, nor were they places to carry out human experiments. They were simply containment camps. Something had to be done with these destructive anti-social Jews who were strangling Germany. Thanks to the Jews, Germany had lost it’s moral code and had become debased and de-cultured ….does that ring a bell?
Something had to be done! And Hitler did do something – he placed all the Jews in containment camps to allow Germany to breath again. But – this is the key point in this essay/piece. He did it in a way which was ethical. The camps had decent sufficient food (bearing in mind it was war time), they had theaters, swimming pools, football pitches, post offices where inmates could communicate to the outside world, kindergartens, art and music recreation and even prostitutes.
Quality sanitation within the camps was paramount and that is why the inmates clothes were regularly de-loused with cyanide gas. There were no human gas chambers……THAT IS A BIG FAT KOSHER LIE; to which the world has had to endure for over half a century.
My theory is that if there had not have been a war effort, Hitler would not have even made the Jews work. AND I bet you the containment camps would have been luxury rehabilitation centers. In order to slowly de-programme the Jews from their mind control cult.
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Because he was one of the good guys. k
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3/.He had compassion for other sentient beings
Many historians claim he was a vegetarian. I believe this is true, but whether this it is or not, the point is he had a clear connection and affection for his fellow creatures. I’m not suggesting just because he may have been a veggie that therefore he was a good person; but this was a man of compassion and that he recognised the importance of compassion in society. He had so much affection for his German shepherds (picture above with his beloved ‘Blondie’). He banned all animal experimentation, recocnizing it to be evil. Hitler could see the connection between all life forms. It was his level of consciousness. Respect for nature, animals and human life.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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4/.He tried to prevent the destruction of his fellow Europeans
Numerous occasions Hitler tried to warn and assist his fellow brethren about the Jewish trap they had fallen for and who really was behind all the warmonger. He dropped fliers from planes trying in vein to prevent Germany and Britain fighting. He initially wanted to make alliances with Britain. Many occasions he gave opportunities to opposing European forces, where he could have slaughtered them. It was his internal spiritual angst for him to be fighting (defending) amongst his European brothers and sisters. He did all he could to avoid war, he was not the warmonger we all have been led to believe.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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5/.He cared passionately about his people and German heritage
Hitler observed the degrading machinations of the Jews in Austria and Germany. It not only disgusted and angered him, but saddened him to see how these two nations were being destroyed from the inside out like a cancer – a cancer that his sleepy folksmen could not see. The exact same angst those of us who are Jew-conscious find ourselves in. He was a man who cared about society, a man who cared about culture, who cared about nature, about moral values and about building and improving as opposed to destroying and degrading.
He was a man who had fought for his country, in the trenches and been hospitalized for his country. How many of our sell out politicians today can claim that? He was a true spokesman of the people, for the people who had diligently worked his way up from grass roots. From microcosmic pep talks to his fellow workman on building sites, to talks in beer houses, to speeches in basements, to town halls. As well as all the behind-the-scenes work and risks. Slung in jail, mocked and defamed. Endless tireless work to resolve the destruction of his peoples.
I would also strongly suggest he cared about all peoples. Yes, including black people, despite the kosher myth he was a supremacist racist.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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6/. He was a humble man, from a humble background
Can any of us name one present western politician who can claim that these days? No, today they’re all criminals, fed through the kosher criminal system. All built on materialistic gain and kudos. All content with serving the beast for their demonic and self-serving interests. Their greed and hubris having no boundaries.
Hitler worked on building sites as a laborer for crying out loud. How many of these leaches under the guise of politicians do you know have that background? He was also a humble street artist, barely scraping a living together. Some days he had to decide whether to spend his meager earnings on a political book, or to eat – he opted for the former. Now that is passion in politics and a drive for social reform.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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7/.He held correspondence with Mahatma Gandhi
This alone doesn’t necessarily suggest he was a good person. But more that Gandhi and Hitler were in alignment on many issues. They both recognized the evil force they were up against and both were coming from a humanitarian position. The bottom line is Gandhi would not have corresponded with a so-called evil mad dictator hell bent on wanting to kill the Jews and rule the world.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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8/. He was a man of God
Hitler was NOT an atheist – despite what the Jewish propaganda machine wants us to believe. He often made references to God and spoke in terms of a Divinity. He was somebody who could clearly make the connection between Divine law and Natural laws. He was spiritually and morally driven throughout all his political career. Read his book Mein Kampf to see his consistent reference to Christian values.
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Because he was one of the good guys. k
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9/.He implemented cultural and social reform
Throughout Hitler’s political career, his common theme was about ‘cleaning up’. He had seen the filth the Jews had created and desperately wanted Germany to reverse these degrading trends. He banned supermarkets, because he wanted local small businesses to prosper. He banned degrading modern art, as he recognised it for what it was. He banned vivisection (animal experiments), because in his wisdom he could see how futile and unnecessary they were.
He encouraged healthy youth activities and social programmes to enhance cultural pride and individual self worth, such as sports and recreational activities. He encouraged men to be men and women to be feminine. He helped develop beauty, cleanliness and pride back into the Germany people.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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10/.He stamped on usury
This subject links in most of the points in this list and what Hitler achieved as a leader. But I thought it was essential that this topic was highlighted in isolation, as it was probably the single most important act of bravery and compassion Hitler offered to his people. Unfortunately this act alone was enough to piss off the Jewish IMF and therefore create WW2.
Usury is the elite Jews most powerful and demonic weapon amongst their whole armament of destructive weapons. More powerful than their poisons and even their mind control techniques. Because it’s their use of compound interest that enables them to create a stranglehold on every industry and therefore every level of society. Nobody can escape usury – everybody is infected by it.
That is why Hitler created his own independent currency as a first move when he came to power. And hey presto – that is why Germany was able to get back on it’s feet and flourish as all nations should. Hitler recognised the judaic invention of usury as unlawful, ungodly and unnatural – and as a talmudic curse which has crippled every host nation the Jews have entered into and ultimately, that which brings about their demise.
Hitler freed his people of this curse.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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In conclusion
Hitler was probably the hero of the second world war and the 21st century. A man of ethical courage, a man of spiritual perception and good intent. A spiritual soul who cared – cared about all life forms, all cultures, about goodness and Light and ultimately about Truth.
k

Because he was one of the good guys. k
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Summary
1/. He never wanted to kill any Jews
2/. He cared about conditions for the Jews in the work camps
3/. He had compassion for other sentient beings
4/. He tried to prevent the destruction of his fellow Europeans
5/. He cared passionately about his people and German heritage
6/. He was a humble man, from a humble background
7/. He held correspondence with Mahatma Gandhi
8/. He was a man of God
9/. He implemented cultural and social reform
10/. He stamped on usury
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Related info
Video of Gandhi’s correspondence to Hitler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q49p-mdnX_0
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Mein Kampf
May I suggest when reading it, digest it slowly. It needs concentration and is certainly not a casual weekend read.
http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

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Deanna Spingola’s amazing comprehensive research
Predominantly on WW1 and WW2. Deanna is a historian of Truth. She is passionate about these areas; it really is her forte. We are so grateful for her consistent efforts.
http://spingola.com/
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CODOH
http://codoh.com/ k
Site exposing the holohoax swindle.
Audio of a debate/discussion with John Friend and Jim Condit on Adolf Hitler
http://blogtalk.vo.llnwd.net/o23/show/4/276/show_4276967.mp3
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Jusury
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT0grvk16NI&feature=player_embedded
http://revisionisthistorystore.blogspot.co.uk/2010/03/michael-hoffmans-online-revisionist.html

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[Bigjon]

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[Bigjon]

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[PatColo]

hrs 2 & 3 on Rense last night.


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Mike King was also on John Friend's radio show last week, 2 hrs, find MP3 link near end,


Monday, May 20, 2013

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On this edition of The Realist Report, we'll be joined by Mike King of the very informative website www.tomatobubble.com (http://www.tomatobubble.com/) which focuses on the hidden or little known truths about economics and history. Mike and I will be discussing the real history of WWII, his thoughts on Adolf Hitler and National Socialism, issues relating to White Nationalism and European history, and related matters. Calls will be taken throughout the conversation. Tune in for what will surely be an informative program!

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[PatColo]

full 3 hr Adolf Hitler- The greatest story NEVER told!docu- I guess that means the creator finished the last parts?

History is Written by the Victors: Adolf Hitler – The Greatest Story Never Told (Full Version) (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/06/history-is-written-by-victors-adolf.html)
This documentary chronicles the rise of Germany from defeat in WWI, communist attempts to take over Germany, hyperinflation during the Weimar Republic, widespread unemployment and misery, and Hitler’s rise to power.
It also reveals a personal side of Adolf Hitler – who he was, his family background, his artwork and struggles in Vienna and what motivated him to come to power.

There’s too much hidden history to recount here – FDR Pearl Harbor conspiracy, Soviet brutality, the root causes of WWII, etc. You will have to watch, do your own research, and decide what to believe.(3 Hour Version from undergrounddocumentaries.com)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xXq-cLYyt5U

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[sirgonzo420]

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[PatColo]

on Rense radio, gets pretty wide exposure vs many other truthy radio shows.

Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2013.07.30 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/07/jeff-rense-radio-show-20130730.html)

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[osoab]

http://images.wikia.com/illogicopedia/images/6/6b/Dancing_hitler.gif

He even dances like a joo. :D

[Hypertiger]

I had a jew or a fallen angel from haven down to hell as my slave boy once...some person that was created out of thin air and existed in the Universe.

A poor washed up Jew...Who took me to a bar where I met a hells angel.

I eventually thought my way out of that situation...like altering the Universe so that I existed in time and space in a different location...The temporal world.

In the spiritual world it can get dark.

Or in the criminal underworld.

Where you are showing pimps beating hookers an axe to get them to stop and they begin crying because they know you are going to chop them up if they try to resist righteousness.

In the temporal world if I kill a hells angel that is against the 10 commandmandments as you all call them and then I go to prison and it is filled with hells angels.

Satan gives people what they want.

Truth gives people what they need.

Hitler basically ceases to exist when he reached the logical conclusion of the psychopath.

They all do and there is nothing but destruction.

GOD is not protecting the hells angels or anyone wandering around pretending to be innocent until proven guilty.

Satan is.

Of course the supply of power is from GOD.

The Hells Angles use it to do what they do...I use it to do what I do.

I do not hope to avoid them.

If Hitler loved Germany...He would not have crossed over the border.

He was deceived at the start like everyone is.

Or you think I'm deceived or attempting to deceive you all?

On the world wide web of lies you are fighting with smoke and mirrors.

[steyr_m]

on Rense radio, gets pretty wide exposure vs many other truthy radio shows.

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I'm like 1/3 of the way in -- awesome

[PatColo]

Couple new podcasts, both are in my queue to listen but haven't yet.

Spingola's done a TON of interviews with WW2/Hitler revisionists & holohoax debunkers. Radl has been on her show numerous times before.


Friday, August 2, 2013


Spingola Speaks 2013.08.02 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/spingola-speaks-20130802.html)



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Guest: Karl Radl (http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/) talks about the Third Reich and the Occult (and how the jews have used that to facilitate Christian Zionism)

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)


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I'll be curious to hear Corbett's take on Hitler's funding here. He's normally so rational/fair/balanced, and for me in recent years, a "Truther's" take on Hitler/WW2/Holohoax has become sort of a litmus test, similar to "who did 911?".

ZCF's (who recently, if briefly, resurfaced (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71314-Zion-Crime-Factory-Clearing-The-Air)) take on the Rothschild connection was, Hitler initially received funding from them, but then turned on them, kicking out rothschild banks & joodeo-masons... thus their eternal vilification campaign against Hitler. See:
The Nazis Gave Rothschild Bankers The Boot (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/05/the-nazis-gave-rothschild-bankers-the-boot/)

See what Corbett thinks:


23
Jul
2013
Who Funded Hitler? – Questions For Corbett #008 (http://www.corbettreport.com/who-funded-hitler-questions-for-corbett-008/)

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SHOW NOTES


Former wrestling teammate says the guy in the court hearing is NOT Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIm-TeodFT8)
Evidence of PDF Tampering with Dzhokar’s Transcript Hearings (http://www.zhn.cz/en/world-developments.htm#Boston-bombing-update)
Question for Corbett – Floods, Nenshi, Agenda 21 (youtube.com/dennismstamps) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUqZ1ReMHoo)
US Doppler Radar Coverage (http://radar.weather.gov/)
Info about the NEXRAD system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEXRAD)
Truth in the Academy (Corbett Report Radio #270) (http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-report-radio-270-truth-in-the-academy/)
Statue of Liberty reopens (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWgJ2QoXJUk)
Kevin Ryan: Demolition access to the World Trade Center towers (http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20090713033854249)
Leading GPS Software Suggests Superior Augmented GPS Service At WTC During 9/11 Attacks (http://911blogger.com/node/21445)
Interview 293 – Aidan Monaghan (http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-293-aidan-monaghan/)
Dr. Tim Ball on Peak Water and Agenda 21 (http://www.corbettreport.com/corbett-report-radio-078-peak-water-and-agenda-21-with-dr-tim-ball/)
Hitler was a Rothschild (http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Mind%20of%20Adolf%20Hitler.html)
Adolf Hitler and the Central Banks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWcTAOjkEik)
The Young Plan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Plan)
Antony Sutton on Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler (interview) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sCpsq55uic)
Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler (http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_Hitler-3.pdf)
The Dunkirk evacuation (official whitewash) (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/5902668/Dunkirk-a-miracle-of-war.html)
The Bushes Are Nazis (http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-016-the-bushes-are-nazis/)
High-Traffic Colluding Tor Routers in Washington, D.C., and the Ugly Truth About Online Anonymity (http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=624)
The “StartPage Trojan” false flag (https://support.startpage.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/187/21/ive-tried-to-remove-startpage-but-it-keeps-coming-back-trojan-startpage-virus--malware)

[gunDriller]

i don't understand why Deanna makes it a point to attack the "Bush Financed Hitler" detail of history.

it's a part of US history. a US president VERY rarely seizes a Wall Street bank. it's a matter of record. Prescott Bush managed the bank. they were doing business with WW2 Germany. date of seizure = October 26, 1942.

of course, the information is promoted by Israel loyalists at LaRouche HQ - but Jews have a long history of selectively promoting those pieces of information that further their interests.


John Friend has a good article about Hitler -
http://recordings.talkshoe.com/TC-128766/TS-768934.mp3

they discuss a specific chapter of Mein Kampf.

"It is of the utmost importance to insist again and again, that idealism is not merely a superfluous manifestation of sentiment, but rather something which has been, is and always will be a necessary precondition of human civilization; it is to this that the very conception 'human' owes its origin. To this kind of mentality the Aryan owes his position in the world, and the world is indebted to the Aryan mind for having developed the concept of 'mankind,' for it was out of this spirit alone that the creative force grew, which in a unique way, combined with robust muscular power with a first-class intellect, and thus created the monuments of human civilization.

Adolf Hitler writing in Mein Kampf regarding the Jewish character - the opposite of the Aryan (Christian):

As soon as the spirit of egoism begins to prevail among a people, then the bonds of the social order break, and man, be seeking his own personal happiness, tumbles out of heaven and falls into hell. [...]

The Jew offers the most striking contrast to the Aryan. There is probably no other people in the world which has so developed the instinct of self-preservation as the so-called 'chosen' race. The best proof of this statement is to be found in the simple fact that this race still exists. Where is another people to be found that in the course of the last two thousand years has undergone so few changes in mental outlook and character as the Jewish people? And yet what other people has played such a constant part in the great revolutions? Even after having passed through the most gigantic catastrophes that have overwhelmed mankind, the Jews remain the same as ever. [...]"

http://www.john-friend.net/2013/08/the-realist-report-with-john-friend.html

[Bigjon]

British agent Hitler made another miracle.

Dunkirk: a miracle of war
To mark the 70th anniversary of the start of the Second World War, we publish an exclusive extract from a gripping new book by Andrew Roberts

By Andrew Roberts

7:00AM BST 25 Jul 2009

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/5902668/Dunkirk-a-miracle-of-war.html

The failure of the Germans to overwhelm the British Expeditionary Force on its retreat to Dunkirk continues to baffle and fascinate historians. Many theories have been put forward and discarded. Here, one of our leading historians presents, for the first time, fresh evidence to explain Hitler's thinking, and why he issued the infamous ''Halt Order'' of May 24 1940.

A full week before the evacuation from Dunkirk began on May 26 1940, after British, French and Canadian troops were cut off by the German army, no fewer than 27,936 men who were not central to the functioning of the British Expeditionary Force (BEF) were evacuated, in an operation organised by Lieutenant-Colonel Lord Bridgeman of the Rifle Brigade on the Continent, and Vice-Admiral Bertram Ramsay, the Flag Officer in Dover. Cartographers, bakers, railwaymen and other ''useless mouths to feed", as they were accurately if uncharitably described by Bridgeman, were shipped back, a clear indication that things were not expected to go well.

Nor did they: on May 24 Army Group A, and Army Group B, Germany's two main forces attacking France, joined together to push the Allies into a rapidly diminishing corner of France and Belgium, by then stretching only from Gravelines to Bruges and inland as far as Douai.

Then something astonishing happened. With General Paul von Kleist's panzers only 18 miles from Dunkirk, indeed closer to it than the bulk of the Allied forces in the Belgian pocket, they were given an order to halt by Hitler that countermanded the order to take the town by the Wehrmacht's Commander-in-Chief, General Walther von Brauchitsch. The new order specified that the line of Lens–Bethune–Saint-Omer–Gravelines "'will not be passed''.

For reasons that are still debated by historians, Adolf Hitler's "Halt Order" of 11.42 hours was given in support of General Gerd von Rundstedt's request to halt Kleist's panzers at the front line on May 24 and not move into the pocket. To the amazement and immense frustration of commanders like Kleist and General Heinz Guderian, the genius of armoured warfare, the coup de grace that might have scooped up the entire northern Allied force was not put into operation, giving the Allies a vital 48-hour breathing space that they used to strengthen the perimeter and begin the exodus from the beaches of Dunkirk.
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General Wilhelm von Thoma, chief of the tank section of OKH (the Army High Command), was right up with the leading tanks near Bergues, from where he could look down into Dunkirk. He sent wireless messages to OKH insisting that the tanks push on, but was rebuffed. ''You can never talk to a fool," he said bitterly of Adolf Hitler (after the Führer was safely dead). "Hitler spoilt the chance of victory." When Churchill later spoke of a "miracle of deliverance", it was one performed by the grace of Rundstedt and Hitler, as well as by General Lord Gort and Vice-Admiral Bertram Ramsay. It was the first example of very many cardinal errors that were to cost Germany the Second World War.

''I must say that the English managed to escape that trap in Dunkirk which I had so carefully laid," recalled Kleist afterwards, "only with the personal help of Hitler." He went on: "There was a channel from Arras to Dunkirk. I had already crossed this channel and my troops occupied the heights which jutted out over Flanders. Therefore, my panzer group had complete control of Dunkirk and the area in which the British were trapped.

''The fact of the matter is that the English would have been unable to get into Dunkirk because I had them covered. Then Hitler personally ordered that I should withdraw my troops from these heights."

However, Kleist was underestimating Rundstedt's important role in the initial decision-making, but with Hitler willing to take the ultimate glory for the campaign, he must also take the ultimate blame for not allowing Kleist to take on the BEF outside Dunkirk. When Kleist met Hitler on the airfield at Cambrai a few days later, he had the courage to remark that a great opportunity had been lost at Dunkirk. Hitler replied: "That may be so. But I did not want to send the tanks into the Flanders marshes – and the British won't come back in this war."

Another excuse Hitler gave elsewhere was that mechanical failures, and the subsequent offensive against the rest of the French Army, had meant that he wanted to build up strength before passing on.

Flying over Dunkirk in September 1944, Churchill told André de Staerke, private secretary to the Prince Regent of Belgium: "I shall never understand why the German Army did not finish the British Army at Dunkirk." The answer might be that by the morning of May 24 the troops had fought continuously for nearly a fortnight, and from his own time in the trenches in the Great War Hitler knew how exhausting that could be.

Moreover the ground around the Dunkirk pocket was not ideal for tanks. The infantry needed time to catch up, considering the startling amount of ground the tanks had crossed since Sedan, and as General Franz Halder wrote in his diary: "The Führer is terribly nervous. Afraid to take any chances." Too much had been achieved already to take the risk of falling into an Allied trap at that late stage, and there were still large French forces and reserves to deal with south of the Somme and Aisne rivers. Street fighting in Warsaw had also shown the vulnerability of tanks in built-up areas, such as Dunkirk. Furthermore, the Luftwaffe chief Hermann Göring was confidently promising that the Luftwaffe could destroy the pocket without any need for the Wehrmacht to do much more than conduct mopping-up operations afterwards.

''Hitler was mistrusting of his generals," General Walter Warlimont of Hitler's personal staff recalled years later: thus at Dunkirk he delayed the main aim of the whole campaign, which was reaching and closing the Channel coast before any other considerations. "This time he was frightened that the clay plains of Flanders with their many streams and channels," according to his memories of World War One, would endanger and possibly inflict heavy losses on the panzer divisions. Hitler failed to follow up the overwhelming success of the first part of the campaign, and instead initiated the steps for the second part before the first had been accomplished.

Rundstedt, who was credited with issuing the Halt Order that the Führer later rubber-stamped, vehemently denied having done so. "If I had had my way the English would not have got off so lightly at Dunkirk," he later recalled with bitterness. "But my hands were tied by direct orders from Hitler. While the English were clambering into the ships off the beaches, I was kept uselessly outside the port unable to move. I recommended to the Supreme Command that my five panzer divisions be immediately sent into the town and thereby completely destroy the retreating English. But I received definite orders from the Führer that under no circumstances was I to attack, and I was expressly forbidden to send any of my troops closer than 10 kilometres from Dunkirk. This incredible blunder was due to Hitler's idea of generalship."

This claim can be safely disregarded, since the order was given by Hitler at a meeting at Army Group A's headquarters in the Maison Blairon, a small chateau at Charleville-Mezieres, only after Rundstedt had said he wanted to conserve the armour for a push to the south, to Bordeaux, where he feared the British would open another front soon, and anyway the numerous canals in Flanders made it bad country for tanks. Hitler merely concurred, but as his Luftwaffe adjutant Nicolaus von Below recorded: "The British Army had no relevance for him."

One theory that must also be discarded was that Hitler did not expect or want to capture the BEF because he hoped for peace with Britain. Not only is it illogical – his chances of forcing peace would have been immensely strengthened by eliminating the BEF – but there is a piece of hitherto overlooked evidence that proves that the OKW (German High Command) assumed the Allied force would be destroyed despite the Halt Order.

A handwritten note from Major-General Alfred Jodl, the deputy chief of OKW, Hitler's planning staff, written at Führer Headquarters and now in private hands, to the labour minister Robert Ley and dated May 28 states: "Most esteemed Labour Führer of the Reich! Everything that has happened since May 10 seems even to us, who had indestructible faith in our success, like a dream. In a few days four fifths of the English Expeditionary Army and a great part of the best mobile French troops will be destroyed or captured. The next blow is ready to strike, and we can execute it at a ratio of 2:1, which has hitherto never been granted to a German field commander..."

The hubris of the letter is undeniable, especially since the BEF had started to embark from Dunkirk on May 26, but equally there is not the slightest sense that the OKW were holding back from attempting to "destroy or capture" as much of the Allied force as possible; evidently they believed total victory to be in their grasp.

Although it was Rundstedt's initial decision to halt Kleist's panzers outside Dunkirk on May 24, it took the Führer's influence to silence the opposition from Brauchitsch, Halder, Guderian and General Erwin Rommel. "We could have wiped out the British Army completely if it weren't for the stupid order of Hitler," Kleist recalled. Certainly, if the BEF had been captured wholesale – more than a quarter of a million PoWs – there is no telling what concessions must have been wrung out of the British government, or whether Churchill could have survived as prime minister if he had demanded a continuation of the war.

Hitler knew how to use PoWs as a bargaining tool, as he was soon to prove with his 1.5 million French captives. Kleist's belief that after the capture of the BEF "an invasion of England would have been a simple affair" is harder to accept, as the RAF and Royal Navy were still undefeated, and the Germans had no advanced plans for getting men across the Channel.

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[PatColo]

i don't understand why Deanna makes it a point to attack the "Bush Financed Hitler" detail of history.

I don't know, I've been unable to download that file! :( I don't know if Mami's screwed up the link or what.
Spingola Speaks 2013.08.02 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/spingola-speaks-20130802.html)

I try to open the MP3 file in a browser tab, and it goes to a kiwi page saying not found.
http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/10m473w7g2/spingola_speaks_-_karl_radl_2013.08.02.mp3

U were able to d/l it?

[gunDriller]

U were able to d/l it?

YES - though all i downloaded, i think, was the file that you posted the URL to.

[steyr_m]

I don't know, I've been unable to download that file! :( I don't know if Mami's screwed up the link or what.


works for me --

wget http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/56r39gk9hj/spingola_speaks_-_karl_radl_2013.08.02.mp3

[gunDriller]

the more i learn about Mr. Hitler, the more i admire him.

the Jews sure are scared of him.

the one webcast where Deanna talks to that guy, they go into the details of the German economic recovery.

he took a nation that was in the Weimar inflation state, kicked all the Jews out of business management and the government, and the inflation stopped, and unemployment dropped to about 2%.

i think he made some mistakes, e.g. invading Sweden & possibly the dispute over territory near Poland.


i wonder if Germany had been a little more restrained, in terms of invading other countries, if the Third Reich would have survived.

i also wonder if, because the Jews hated WW2 Germany, if there was trickery involved. sort of like when the US told Iraq in 1990, "sure, go ahead and invade Kuwait. what is between Arabs is between Arabs."

[PatColo]

works for me --

wget http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/56r39gk9hj/spingola_speaks_-_karl_radl_2013.08.02.mp3

thanks, I got that one now. But I notice your url ^ is changed from the one Mami's linked to yesterday, which I C/P'd into reply 215 above. Spingola Speaks 2013.08.02 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/spingola-speaks-20130802.html)
now they've changed where the "download" link on that page points, namely to your url above now.

As to Corbett's podcast also in reply 215,Who Funded Hitler? – Questions For Corbett #008 (http://www.corbettreport.com/who-funded-hitler-questions-for-corbett-008/)

the show is all over the map topics-wise. At 28:15 through 36:20 Corbett takes the question about hitler; and takes takes the "Hitler was a rothschild" line, citing among other things Anthony Sutton's "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" (http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0945001533), and sadly, he evoked the "neo-Nazi" propaganda buzzword several times in his refutation of the 'Hitler kicked out the zio-banksters' idea. :(

[PatColo]

great show, check King's site, 1.5 hour

Spingola Speaks 2013.08.14 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/08/spingola-speaks-20130814.html)

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Guest: Mike King (http://www.tomatobubble.com/), the author of NWO Forbidden History, talks Adolf Hitler and King Edward

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)


Download (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/bydr891nn2/spingola_speaks_-_mike_king_2013.08.14.mp3)

[PatColo]

Spingola does so many WW2-revisionist shows I don't post but a fraction of them. This one's good for this forum coz guest debunks a recent joospeak article claiming the Hitler-era economic recovery was all bogus... 80 mins comm-free:


Tuesday, 9-24: Rodney Martin (http://spingolaspeaks.info/2013/09/24/tuesday-9-24-rodney-martin/)




Rodney Martin from World View Foundations (http://wvfoundations.org/) joins Deanna today to discuss Anthony Migchels’ article, Hitler’s Finances and the Myth of Nazi Anti-Usury Activism (http://henrymakow.com/2013/09/The-Myth-of-Hitler-as-Monetary-Reformer%20.html) posted by Dr. Henry Makow.

Werner Bock calls in from Canada.

News Page (http://mynewspage.wordpress.com/websites/deanna-spingola/)
Deanna's site (http://www.spingola.com/radio_schedule.html)
Official chat room (http://spingola.chatango.com/)
Spingola Speaks .Info (http://spingolaspeaks.info/)

Download (http://k002.kiwi6.com/hotlink/m691wi44qf/spingola.speaks.rodney_martin.2013.09.24.mp3)

[mick silver]

back up thanks pat

[PatColo]

2 podcasts contained in this Mami's post today, both from May '11.

One is a 3-way "debate" between Spingola (hostess), Carolyn Yeager, & Jim Condit Jr. It's 90 mins, here's .MP4 file (http://archive.org/download/DeannaSpingolaWithCarolynYeagerAndJimConditJr-DebateAllegedHitler/DeannaSpingolaWithCarolynYeagerAndJimConditJr-DebateAllegedHitlerZionismConnections_050311_512kb .mp4) (150 MBs).

2nd podcast is M.C.Piper discussing ^, see the download link below.


Vintage Michael Collins Piper: The Yeager/Condit Debate (http://grizzom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/vintage-michael-collins-piper.html)



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Piper discusses the Carolyn Yeager & Jim Condit Jr. debate about alleged Hitler Zionism connections.


Show-page (http://michaelcollinspiper.podbean.com/2011/05/09/the-piper-report-may-9-2011/)



The Debate:
Deanna Spingola with Carolyn Yeager and Jim Condit Jr. - Debate: Alleged Hitler Zionism Connections (http://archive.org/details/DeannaSpingolaWithCarolynYeagerAndJimConditJr-DebateAllegedHitler)

Download (http://media23.podbean.com/pb/df7d5fbec561a2837a401a4301967eb0/525afba9/blogs23/320030/uploads/MCP9MAY2011FIN.mp3)

[PatColo]

Monday, October 14, 2013


Adolf Hitler - The greatest story Never told (Full 6 hours Documentary) (http://grizzom.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/adolf-hitler-greatest-story-never-told.html)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgIJSOrKeA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgIJSOrKeA

This is the complete series, so get it while you can. Documentaries biased or unbiased always contain true facts. It is up to the investigators (or people that will watch them) to make their own research and gather all the facts afterwards. It shouldn't be some corporate filter that will declare the "truth" to the sheeple.

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also see
Search Engine Manipulation. Google and YouTube Suppress Controversial 9/11 Truth? (http://www.globalresearch.ca/search-engine-manipulation-google-and-youtube-suppress-911-truth/5352982)
(http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=3100026457892280159)

[PatColo]

Behind the Holocaust, by JB Campbell (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/behind-the-holocaust-by-jb-campbell/)

Posted on October 12, 2013 (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/behind-the-holocaust-by-jb-campbell/) by Montecristo (http://www.darkmoon.me/author/admin/)
Sourced from Veterans Today (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/11/jb-campbell-behind-the-holocaust/)


What was Hitler’s Unforgivable Sin?
(http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/behind-the-holocaust-by-jb-campbell)
(http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/behind-the-holocaust-by-jb-campbell)
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Hitler resisted Judaism. When you’re a little kid in school or at the movies, resisting Judaism can be made to seem a very wicked thing. As an adult, you can be made to think that to resist Judaism is the very worst, the most dangerous thing. When you see what has happened to people who have resisted Judaism, well – you certainly don’t want that to happen to you.

Adolf Hitler was, is and will always be the most dangerous character in history due to his resistance against Judaism, combined with his eloquence in explaining why Judaism must be resisted. Continue reading → (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/behind-the-holocaust-by-jb-campbell/#more-16029)


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[osoab]

Yes, he waged war [financial and actual] against the central bankers; but he lost.

The central bankers made out like bandits, more debt and more control. They love war. The bankers don't give a shit about "winners and losers". They are the ones who decide who gets to be the "winners and losers".

[PatColo]

The Hitler Test (http://therebel.org/news/kaminski/the-hitler-test/)



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Category: John Kaminski Created on 09 November 2013 Written by John Kaminski Hits: 3276


CAN YOU PERCEIVE THE JEWISH POLLUTION OF YOUR OWN MIND?


The Hitler test is the same as the 9/11 test.


The same as the Iraq test, the Afghanistan test, the Libya test, the Syria test.


The same as the "domestic terrorist" test, the "anybody can be president" test, the "your vote counts" test, the "government is on your side" test.


If you believe what the government says, you're part of the problem. If you believe what big media tells you, well, then you're just an idiot, incapable of discernment and a total failure at critical thinking.


There's a reason I keep saying 90 percent of the opposition to Jewish America's pathological practices are false.


Such popular "opposition" commentators as Jim Stone, Alex Jones, Mike Rivero, Ryan Dawson, Chris Hedges, Dave Hodges, Mike Adams (to name only a few) . . . they all fail the Hitler test. They all fall for the Jewish propaganda that "Hitlerian" is the worst adjective you can apply to any person, any program, any social movement. They and hundreds of others have all fallen for the popular media lie that World War II was "the good war", when in reality it was, at the time, the biggest lie ever told. Whether these writers are merely naive or totally corrupt and paid off is for you to decide.


In either case, they pretend not to know that Adolf Hitler has been vilified in perpetuity by Jewish media to cover up some very important facts that are critical to your continued survival. These facts have been concealed for more than a half century.


Objective facts prove that Holocaust hysteria is a cynical hoax, meant to create new ways of scamming the public ($13.5 billion in Holocaust reparations, at last count; plus laws in almost all European countries mandating jail for anybody who wishes to even discuss the matter).


The two main facts that have been covered up are these.


Germany was destroyed in the 1940s because it was the most serious threat to Jewish worldwide financial hegemony the world has ever seen. While the rest of the world was mired in a Jewish-imposed worldwide depression — and people were starving in the streets everywhere, including the United States — Germany under Adolf Hitler was thriving, because it had freed itself from the shackles of the international bankers and their devastating criminal formula of fractional reserve lending, which is the exact thing that is strangling societies all over the world today.


And the second most important fact that has been covered up is that all this ceaseless and maudlin hoopla about 6 million Jews gassed and burned in German concentration camps obscures the real mass murder crime by Jewish allies America, Britain and the Soviet Union, who terminated with extreme prejudice 12 million innocent German citizens, most of them after the war had supposedly ended.


So the most important lessons to be learned from this massive coverup and social engineering program concocted and reinforced ad nauseum by Jewish media hypocrites is that anybody who escapes the toxic tentacles of the kosher world bankers guarantees themselves financial independence and domestic harmony, but runs the risk of being annihilated by the criminals who control the world financial system.


Which is why I'm fond of saying your choices under this current system of government are either life in prison or instant death. Do not try to sugar coat this. This is what everyone in the world is facing right now.


This unceasing drivel about Jewish Holocaust victims is best counterbalanced by reading the Thomas Goodrich book, Hellstorm, which details in the goriest of detail what the Americans, Brits and Russians did to innocent German civilians AFTER World War II had ended. Pay close attention to the horrific details, because these things are about to happen in the United States and elsewhere to most of you.


This is what the future has in store for you, for not really paying attention, for believing Jewish media lies, for concentrating on your toys and your highly paying jobs, and refusing to see where these lies were taking us. Have taken us.


Maintaining the slander


rest: http://therebel.org/news/kaminski/the-hitler-test

[PatColo]

2 hrs

The Spingola Zone at AFP 11/12/2013 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-spingola-zone-11122013.html)



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Soft-spoken yet extremely hard-hitting, Deanna Spingola is one of the most popular independent voices in the alternative media today. Her radio broadcasts have been “must” listening for truth seekers around the world, and her books in the “Ruling Elite (http://shop.americanfreepress.net/store/p/493-The-Ruling-Elite-Double-Book-Offer.html)” series have captivated readers with their amazing revelations of many heretofore untold “hidden” facts of history.
Deanna's guest is Dennis Wise, producer of The Greatest Story Never Told (http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/).
Show-page (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2013/11/12/the-spingola-zone-1) American Free Press (http://americanfreepress.net/)


Download (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/americanfreepress/2013/11/12/the-spingola-zone-1.mp3)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgIJSOrKeA

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[mick silver]

The Hitler Family

FATHER
There is a great deal of confusion in studying Hitler's family tree. Much of this is due to the fact that the name has been spelled in various ways: Hitler, Hidler, Hiedler, and Huettler. It seems reasonable to suppose, however, that it is fundamentally the same name spelled in various ways by different members of what was basically an illiterate peasant family. Adolf Hitler himself signed his name Hittler on the first Party membership blanks, and his sister usually spells her name as Hiedler. Another element of confusion is introduced by the fact that Adolf's mother's mother was also named Hitler, which later became the family name of his father. Some of this confusion is dissipated, however, when we realize that Adolf's parents had a common ancestor (father's grandfather and mother's great-grandfather), an inhabitant of the culturally backward Waldviertel district of Austria.
Adolf's father, Alois (http://www.maebrussell.com/About%20Mae%20Brussell/Alois%20Schicklgruber.html) Hitler, was the illegitimate son of Maria Anna Schicklgruber (http://www.maebrussell.com/The%20Warren%20Commission/Warren%20Commission%20exhibits%20106%20and%20107.h tml). It is generally supposed that the father of Alois Hitler was a Johann Georg Hiedler, a miller's assistant. Alois, however, was not legitimized, and he bore his mother's name until he was forty years of age when he changed it to Hitler. Just why this was done is not clear, but it is generally said among the villagers that it was necessary in order to obtain a legacy. Where the legacy came from is unknown. One could suppose that Johann Georg Hiedler relented on his deathbed and left an inheritance to his illegitimate son together with his name. It seems strange, however, that he did not legitimize the son when he married Anna Schicklgruber thirty-five years earlier. Why the son chose to take the name Hitler instead of Hiedler, if this is the case, is also a mystery that has remained unsolved. Unfortunately, the date of the death of Hiedler has not been established, and consequently we are unable to relate these two events in time. A peculiar series of events, prior to Hitler's birth, furnishes plenty of food for speculation.
There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that Chancellor Dollfuss had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved that Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived. At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where Alois was born. If it is true that one of the Rothschilds is the real father of Alois Hitler, it would make Adolf a quarter Jew. According to these sources, Adolf Hitler knew of the existence of this document and the incriminating evidence it contained. In order to obtain it he precipitated events in Austria and initiated the assassination of Dollfuss. According to this story, he failed to obtain the document at that time since Dollfuss had secreted it and had told Schuschnigg of its whereabouts so that in the event of his death the independence of Austria would remain assured. Several stories of this general character are in circulation.
Those who lend credence to this story point out several factors that seem to favor its plausibility.
1. That it is unlikely that the miller's assistant in a small village in this district would have very much to leave in the form of a legacy.
2. That it is strange that Johann Hiedler should not claim the boy until thirty-five years after he had married the mother and the mother had died.
3. That if the legacy were left by Hiedler on the condition that Alois take his name, it would not have been possible for him to change it to Hitler.
4. That the intelligence and behavior of Alois, as well as that of his two sons, is completely out of keeping with that usually found in Austrian peasant families. They point out that their ambitiousness and extraordinary political intuition are much more in harmony with the Rothschild tradition.
5. That Alois Schicklgruber left his home village at an early age to seek his fortune in Vienna where his mother had worked.
6. That it would be peculiar for Alois Hitler, while working as a customs official in Braunau, to choose a Jew named Print, of Vienna, to act as Adolf's godfather unless he felt some kinship with the Jews himself.
This is certainly a very intriguing hypothesis, and much of Adolf's later behavior could be explained in rather easy terms on this basis. However, it is not absolutely necessary to assume that he has Jewish blood in his veins in order to make a comprehensive picture of his character with its manifold traits and sentiments. From a purely scientifc point of view, therefore, it is sounder not to base our reconstruction on such slim evidence but to seek firmer foundations. Nevertheless, we can leave it as a possibility that requires further verification.
In any event Maria Anna Schicklgruber died when Alois was five years of age. When he was thirteen he left the Waldviertel and went to Vienna where he learned to be a cobbler. The next twenty-three years of his life are largely unaccounted for. It seems probable that during this time he joined the army and had perhaps been advanced to the rank of noncommissioned officer. His service in the army may have helped him to enter the Civil Service as Zollamtsoffizial later on.

[mick silver]

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[Rubicon]

Ethnic Cleansing of Twelve Million Germans after the War
http://www.germanvictims.com/

Seeking truth, justice and honour for the German people
http://justice4germans.com/

[Hypertiger]

You are all idiots.

Hitler and the people of Germany received what they needed from GOD...not what they wanted...because GOD only supplies the demand for what is needed not what is wanted.

What you see is what you get.

A liar was installed as the leader of the ignorant...

A smoldering ruin pile is what the ignorant population of Germany was supplied by GOD with as a reward for their demand to worship ignorance as the path to salvation.

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The Hitler Test (http://therebel.org/news/kaminski/the-hitler-test/)


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Kaminski on JFriend's podcast; 1h 37m:


Tuesday, November 19, 2013 The Realist Report with John Friend (http://www.john-friend.net/2013/11/the-realist-report-with-john-friend_19.html)


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On this edition of The Realist Report (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report/2013/11/19/john-kaminski--the-hitler-test), we'll be joined once again by John Kaminski. John and I will be talking about his recent article The Hitler Test and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

You can download the mp3 for this program here (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report/2013/11/19/john-kaminski--the-hitler-test.mp3), or visit The Realist Report (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/the-realist-report) on BlogTalkRadio to subscribe via iTunes and view past programs.

Below are relevant links for this program:


The Hitler Test (http://therebel.org/news/kaminski/the-hitler-test/) by John Kaminski
Rethinking Hitler & National Socialism (http://www.john-friend.net/2012/06/rethinking-hitler-national-socialism.html) by John Friend
Was Hitler a Zionist stooge? (http://www.john-friend.net/2013/03/was-hitler-zionist-stooge.html) by John Friend
Hitler's Declaration of War Against the United States (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v08/v08p389_Hitler.html) - IHR
Adolf Hitler - The Greatest Story NEVER Told! (http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/)



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UNDER JEWISH RULE, by Lasha Darkmoon (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/under-jewish-rule-by-lasha-darkmoon/)

Posted on November 15, 2013 (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/under-jewish-rule-by-lasha-darkmoon/) by Montecristo (http://www.darkmoon.me/author/admin/)

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Is it time to write America’s obituary? Is it time to say, ‘Goodbye, America’?


. . . by Lasha Darkmoon

(http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/under-jewish-rule-by-lasha-darkmoon/Darkmoon%20%28darkmoon@darkmoon.me%29)


http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/tentacles-of-power-320x284.png (http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/tentacles-of-power-320x284.png)“We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.” — Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001




Kevin MacDonald’s review (http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-Marr.html) of Wilhelm Marr’s pamphlet, Der Sieg des Judenthums über das Germanenthum, 1879, (“The Victory of Judaism over Germanism”), is a fascinating compendium of pessimistic quotations in which German political pundit Marr concludes gloomily that there was no hope left for Germany.


It was finished — yes, as early as the 1870s. The Jews, he lamented, were simply too formidable a foe.


Marr’s pamphlet ends with these chilling words: “Let us accept the inescapable, since we cannot change it. Its name is: FINIS GERMANIAE—the end of Germany!”

1. Is America the new Germany?


I confess I had no idea the outlook was so bleak in Germany as early as 1879. (Marr’s pamphlet has recently been translated into English and is now available in pdf format (http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/Marr-Text-English.pdf)). I had been under the false impression that the notion of Jewish domination came much later — after the publication of the Protocols (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion) (1903) and the Russian Revolution (1917).

We have seen it all happen though. Germany was brought to its knees, exactly as Marr predicted. Its cadaver now lies rotting.

It was only quite recently that Israel demanded from Germany a further 1 billion Euros ($1.4 billion) in Holocaust reparations for its endlessly traumatized Jewish survivors. Almost 70 years after World War II, the grim extortion racket (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1136383.html) continues unabated.

Though World War II ended sixty-eight years ago, the number of Holocaust survivors today is truly phenomenal. This prompted Norman Finkelstein’s mother to ask somewhat cynically, after she had been cheated out of her reparations money by the rabbis who administered the Holocaust Fund: “If everyone who claims to be a survivoractually is one, who did Hitler kill (http://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Industry-Reflections-Exploitation-Suffering/dp/product-description/185984488X)?”

Good question.

http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/wilhelm-marr.png (http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/wilhelm-marr.png)Wilhelm Marr (right, 1819–1904). His controversial pamphlet of 1879 predicted the end of Germany—sixty-six years before Germany’s catastrophic defeat in World War II in 1945.




The subject that interests me however—and which should be of vital importance to Americans undergoing an almost identical trauma at the hands of organized Jewry today — is the question: to what extent was Germany in the days before Hitler’s rise to power a dress rehearsal for what we are witnessing in America right now? What are the parallels? Is it time to write America’s obituary?

Is it time to say, FINIS AMERICAE — the end of America?

Here is a pertinent, relatively modern quotation which will serve as a useful coda to the doomladen citations from Marr. Read it carefully. It will not only hammer home the points made by Marr several decades earlier, it will also provide the reader with a sharp reminder of the parallel situation in which America finds itself today.

With one significant difference: America is in a far worse condition.



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Historian Sir Arthur Bryant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Bryant) summarizes Jewish power in pre-1933 Germany. I have edited this slightly for brevity, omitting the ellipses:

It was the Jews with their international affiliations and their hereditary flair for finance who were best able to seize such opportunities. They did so with such effect that, even in November 1938, after five years of anti-Semitic legislation and persecution, they still owned, according to the Times correspondent in Berlin, something like A THIRD OF THE REAL PROPERTY OF THE REICH.

Most of it came into their hands during the inflation. But to those who had lost their all, this bewildering transfer seemed a monstrous injustice. After prolonged sufferings they had now been deprived of their last possessions. They saw them pass into the hands of strangers, many of whom had not shared their sacrifices and who cared little or nothing for their national standards and traditions.

The Jews obtained a wonderful ascendancy in politics, business and the learned professions, in spite of constituting LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE POPULATION.

The banks, including the Reichsbank and the big private banks, were practically controlled by them. So were the publishing trade, the cinema, the theatres and a large part of the press — all the normal means, in fact, by which public opinion in a civilized country is formed. The largest newspaper combine in the country with a daily circulation of four millions was a Jewish monopoly. Every year it became HARDER AND HARDER FOR A GENTILE TO GAIN OR KEEP A FOOTHOLD IN ANY PRIVILEGED OCCUPATION.

At this time it was not the ‘Aryans’ who exercised racial discrimination. It was a discrimination that operated without violence. It was EXERCISED BY A MINORITY AGAINST A MAJORITY.

There was no persecution, only elimination. It was the contrast between the wealth enjoyed — and lavishly displayed—by aliens of cosmopolitan tastes, and the poverty and misery of native Germans, that has made anti-Semitism so dangerous and ugly a force in the new Europe.

Beggars on horseback are seldom popular, least of all with those whom they have just thrown out of the saddle.

Sir Arthur Bryant, Unfinished Victory (http://globalfire.tv/nj/08en/history/origins_of_ww2.htm) (1940), emphasis added.



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Throughout history, Christianity, and especially the Catholic Church, has been a countervailing force against organized Jewry — against a “stiff-necked” people who, while claiming spotless innocence and invariably framing their detractors as irrational and pathological haters, have nevertheless been expelled from no fewer than 109 locations (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm) since the year AD250.

Why has contemporary Christianity failed so abysmally to stand up to the encroachments of organized Jewry and its influence?

This is a question I will attempt to answer now.

2. The Christian Zionists and organized Jewry: fools conned by knaves


Despiteits history (http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/articles/MacDonald-SSPX.html) as the only Western institution that has been able at times to resist Jewish power, the Catholic Church, of which I am a hopelessly dysfunctional practicing member, has proved to be an acute disappointment. It has been thoroughly subverted from within and without. It offers neither guidance nor leadership. So forget the Catholics — a spent force.

One is also forced to conclude that there is little hope that American Protestants could come to the rescue. Their infatuated legions — particularly the 60 million Christian Zionists who constitute the most influential group among them — are in many ways as rabid as the fanatical Jews (http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/strange_alliance_christian_jewish_zionists/) who seem to have infected them with their zealotry, egging them on to find solace in eschatological ecstasies and millenarian mumbojumbo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture).

Life is indeed so empty and sterile for these wretched lumpengoyim that the only thing that excites their sluggish sensitivities is the prospect of Armageddon (http://www.stephensizer.com/books/christian-zionism/)and the thought of universal and catastrophic death — the quicker the better.

Whipped into a frenzy of religious fervor by the Grahams and the Robertsons, the Falwells and the Hagees, the Lindseys and the La Hayes, these Christian Zionists have become imitation Jews almost indistinguishable fromVladimir Jabotinski (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabotinsky)and Baruch Goldstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein).


They believe in a Greater Israel — entailing further conquests of Arab Land — and in the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

They have “adopted” illegal settlements and they directly finance the bulldozing of Palestinian homes, the uprooting of olive trees, and the daily oppression of the rightful owners of the Holy Land.

They pray every Sunday in their vast soulless churches for the destruction of Iran (http://www.lewrockwell.com/barnwell/barnwell73.html).

And if push came to shove, they would gladly give their blessings to genocide—and call it “the will of God.”
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http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/Pastor-Hagee.png (http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/Pastor-Hagee.png)John Hagee – a major Zionist American agent




John Hagee (left), founder of Christians United for Israel: “Fifty million evangelical Christians unite with five million American Jews, standing together on behalf of Israel….The man or nation that lifts a voice or hand against Israel invites the wrath of God.”


There are now 80,000 fundamentalist pastors and clergy preaching their message of madness to these ill-educated Christian masses — in many ways as gullible and gormless as medieval peasants.

The pernicious views of their “pastors” are disseminated by 1000 local Christian radio stations as well as 100 Christian TV stations. (See here (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12516.htm))

Consider the unimaginable war crimes committed by the state of Israel a few years ago in Gaza. The world saw it happen. Judge Goldstone saw it happen. His meticulously documented report (http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/hrcouncil/specialsession/9/docs/UNFFMGC_Report.pdf)makes it abundantly clear that Israel is a criminal nation and that its politicians and generals are steeped in criminality.

Later on, under intense pressure and perhaps intimidation, Judge Goldstone backtracked and made lame excuses for these war crimes. In the eyes of many, he damaged his reputation by doing this.

Yet here is Grace Halsell (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12516.htm): “Every act taken by Israel is orchestrated by God, and should be condoned, supported, and even praised by the rest of us.”


When I first read this, I couldn’t believe my eyes.

Was this woman crazy? Where had she been since 1948? Hadn’t she heard of the Goldstone Report? Did she have no inkling of Israeli war crimes (http://mondediplo.com/2009/03/03warcrimes)?

Had she forgotten the Deir Yassin massacre (1948), the Lavon affair (1954), the Sabra and Shatila war crimes (1982), Qana (17 villages wiped out 1996), the Jenin massacre (2002), the Lebanon and Egyptian terrorist attacks and the atrocities in Iraq from 1990 to the present time, the horrific Gaza invasion of 2009?

Had she never heard of the King David Hotel bombing of the British? Had she never heard of the Hebron Mosque massacre by Baruch Goldstein?

Had she never heard of the sneak attack on the USS Liberty? Had she never heard of American state secrets sold to the Soviets and Chinese? Had she never heard of white phosphorus and cluster bombs and DIME weapons that slice babies’ bodies in half?

Above all: had she forgotten 9/11, the war crime of the century, dressed up to look like an Al Qaeda spectacular?

I need not have worried.

Halsell, I was relieved to learn, was being ironic. She opposed Zionism as much as I did—as any sane and reasonable person would. http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/zionism_cartoon.jpg
(http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/zionism_cartoon.jpg)Zionist double talk has become an American institution



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3. Why Contemporary America is far worse off than pre-National Socialist Germany


I have been accused of needless defeatism by some of my anti-Zionist colleagues. America is far from dead, they assure me. It’s alive and kicking. It’s just a matter of time before good patriotic Americans rise from their slumber, reclaim lost ground, and take back their country. I wish I could feel as sanguine about America’s prospects as these optimists do.

I should like to convince you that the problems facing Germany in the past were far less formidable than the problems facing any potential American rescuer today.

One of the serious negative factors facing America today — a problem the Germans never had—is the existence of vast numbers of Christian Zionists in their midst.

Germany of course had to cope with organized Jewry, a group working from within to undermine the foundations of German society. But one scourge Germany did not have, and which America has, is this scourge of a non-Jewish enemy within: the 60 million Christian Zionists acting in cahoots with organized Jewry to oppose the interests of their own people.

America’s Christian Zionists, it would seem, are their own worst enemy — blithely planning their own demise without knowing it. So here is Problem Number One for those of you who dream that America could once again become the self-conscious ethnic possession of people of European ancestry: What are you going to do with these 60 million White American renegades who have joined forces with the Enemy? Who are as Jewish as Ariel Sharon or Abe Foxman. Who are hand in glove with AIPAC. Who think ADL means ‘Advanced Divine Leadership’.

How are you going to fit these thoroughly Judaized allies of organized Jewry into your democratic homeland in which 98 percent of the population are non-Jews? — your country that has been taken over and transformed by the Jews into an Israeli colony (http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=36935)?

It cannot be done. So you have a big problem.

4. Israel and its Jewish-American Double Agents


Another big problem America needs to solve that Germany did not have to cope with is the state of Israel and its powerful lobby in America. Germany did not have Israel hanging round its neck like an albatross. The Germans were not induced to fight wars on behalf of a foreign country. They didn’t invade other countries in order to make the world safe for Israel.

http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/Join-the-US-army-and-Fight-for-Zionism-230x300.jpg (http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/Join-the-US-army-and-Fight-for-Zionism.jpg)

“Since September 11, 2001, the Israeli state, Zionists inside the US government, and the entire leadership of the Major American Jewish Organizations, have been entirely devoted to pushing the US into Middle East wars on behalf of Israel.” — James Petras, see here (http://petras.lahaine.org/articulo.php?p=1721&more=1&c=1).


“Today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them.” — Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad of Malaysia (http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/malaysian.asp), in a speech to the Tenth Islamic Summit Conference at Putrajaya, Malaysia, October 16, 2003.


Almost 5,000 U.S. military personnel have been sacrificed for Israel in Iraq. These are the “officially acknowledged” figures. The real figures have been put at between 50,000 and 70,000 and are probably higher. (See here (http://www.alternet.org/world/46161) and here (http://www.drudge.com/archive/105775/70000-us-dead-iraq).)


The number of seriously injured soldiers are perhaps ten times the number of the dead. Meanwhile, the number of Iraqis slaughtered amount to almost 1.5 million, with four times as many driven into neighboring countries as homeless refugees. The cost to the American taxpayer is (to date) over $980 billion, with a total cost of $3 trillion projected. (See here (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/))

What is even more appalling is that nuclear weapons were surreptitiously used in Iraq, “dirty” weapons designed to produce hideous birth deformities in a “population cleansing war (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/07/15/population-cleansing-wars/)”. Here is America’s handiwork, courtesy of Israel, the instigator of this monstrous war crime.



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I think that even the enemies of Zionism before 1948 failed to appreciate the extent to which organized Jewry would maximize its power once it had acquired its own headquarters and homeland — complete with its own military arsenal and espionage facilities. Archimedes provides a hint in his famous quote on the lever (http://www.math.nyu.edu/%7Ecrorres/Archimedes/Lever/LeverIntro.html), often loosely translated as: “Give me a place to stand and I will move the world.” The Jews now have “a place to stand” — and they certainly are “moving the world.”

The Germans, in addition, did not have a powerful Jewish Lobby holding the entire German government to ransom. German politicians, unlike American ones, were not on Israel’s payroll via campaign contributions from AIPAC and its fabulously rich Jewish supporters. These political donations or “reward money” are bribes in all but name.

Apart from the carrot, there is of course the stick, wielded to good effect by organized Jewry against all American critics of Israel. “Their willing use of force, money and media slander,” James Petras points out (http://lahaine.org/petras/articulo.php?p=1794&more=1&c=1), “intimidates any and all critics, including dissident politicians, media, journalists and professors.”

In pre-WW2 Germany, the Mossad did not exist. No Mossad was around to monitor the Internet activities of German politicians to see what financial or sexual shenanigans they were up to. Today, in America, it is reasonable to assume that there is constant surveillance of American politicians by Mossad — if not by AIPAC, the ADL, and their various affiliates. Indeed, the ADL famously settled (http://www.counterpunch.org/adlspying2.html) a spy case that yielded documents with 10,000 names and 600 organizations thought to be insufficiently slavish toward Israel. Legal filings from the case showed that an ADL agent had a floor plan and a key for the office of Alex Odeh, a murdered Arab American leader.

It follows that the potential for blackmailing American politicians (by Israel’s agents) must today be enormous. Sibel Edmonds asks rhetorically, “Are American politicians being blackmailed? Is grass green?” Her answer: “Of course the blackmail scenario (http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7117) is possible; in fact, highly possible.”

5. Seven reasons why America is in a far worse position today than Germany was when it was under Jewish domination in the pre-Hitler era


Seven crucial points need to be hammered home. These show that America is now in a critical situation from which nothing can save it — nothing except a military coup or violent revolution.

1. Germany did not have to cope with 60 million Christians Zionists collaborating with the goals of organized Jewry; America does.

2. Germany did not have the state of Israel to finance, nor did it have to fight Israel’s wars; America does.

3. Germany’s population of Jews was relatively small compared to America’s: less than 1% of 80 million (http://email02.secureserver.net/v) (roughly 522,000 Jews in 1933 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Jews)) compared to contemporary America’s 2% + of 314 million (http://www.census.gov/popclock/) (over 6 million Jews).

4. Since Israel had yet to be founded, Germany did not have the problem of dual citizens whose primary allegiance is to a foreign country.

5. Although there were Jewish activist organizations in Weimar Germany, they had not achieved the power and influence of the Jewish ethnic infrastructure in the US. Organizations like AIPAC, the ADL, the SPLC, the American Jewish Committee, and the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations (http://www.conferenceofpresidents.org/index.asp) (to name a few) are lavishly funded and influential in all areas of American life, including law enforcement, foreign policy, and all things multicultural.

6. Jews have also erected the Holocaust Industry as a powerful guilt machine for White Americans. Traditional American culture has been substantially replaced by the culture of the Holocaust and various other non-White victimhoods, endlessly played out in the movies, television shows, and in the schools, all the way from kindergarten through the university.

7. Above all, Germany was never threatened with multiculturalism. Promoting multiculturalism has been the focus not only of various influential Jewish intellectual movements, it has also been the most important goal of the organized Jewish community, especially since World War II.

Multiculturalism is a deadly weapon against Western civilization — a WMD of truly devastating lethality that in the long run will destroy Christianity, traditional moral values, and traditional nationalist cultures in North America, Europe, and Australia. It will also result in the dispossession and disempowerment of the white race, with the significant risk of brutal mass rape of white women in future ethnic conflicts — as happened to 2 million German women (http://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11) after World War II.


These are not the fanciful fears of a “racist” — for I regard all manifestations of race supremacy as fundamentally obscene — but the predictions of a pragmatic realist historian. For if multiculturalism were so desirable, why do the Jews promote it so assiduously in all countries except Israel?


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http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/dystopia-e1351718029872.jpeg (http://cdn.darkmoon.me/uploads/dystopia-e1351718029872.jpeg)“This is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth them…” (Isaiah 42:22)




6. Conclusion


The situation facing America is a grim one. An epidemic of escalating severity threatens us all. In the course of time, this epidemic of evil is likely to infect Eurasia and spread to other parts of the world like a cancer.

Public debt has increased to almost 70 percent in five years, from 9.9 trillion in 2008 to 16.7 trillion today. China has begun to publically mock the level of US debt and is reluctant to continue propping up the worthless US dollar, instead earmarking the country’s $3.6 trillion (http://www.infowars.com/9-signs-that-china-is-making-a-move-against-the-u-s-dollar/) of foreign reserves for the acquisition of huge chunks real estate in Europe. Soon they will be buying up America — indeed, the process has already begun (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/07/10/chinese-to-spend-billions-on-american-real-estate/).

There are also plans to sell off America’s national parks and post offices and to drastically limit the value of food stamps to the tens of millions now eking out a miserable existence in tent cities or in deep underground tunnels like sewer rats. Meanwhile, ten American executives took home $100 million each last year, with the top two raking in over $1 billion each. (See here (http://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/oct/22/top-earning-ceos-100m-paychecks-record))

Homeland Security has recently acquired 2700 armoured battle tanks for use in American cities, its own secret paramilitary forces, and 1.6 billion rounds of hollow-point ammunition — enough to kill everyone in America five times over. A domestic force of this magnitude can hardly have been assembled to protect America from a virtually non-existent terrorist threat. “This force has been assembled,” Paul Craig Roberts tells us (http://paulcraigroberts.org/2013/10/23/ye-sow-shall-ye-reap-paul-craig-roberts/), “to deal with starving and homeless people in the streets of America.”

Alarmist? Not so. Only a few weeks ago we learned that Obama had set a new litmus test (http://www.infowars.com/nobel-peace-prize-nominee-obama-asks-military-leaders-if-they-will-fire-on-us-citizens/)for senior military leaders. They were asked the question: “Are you willing to open fire on your fellow American citizens if ordered to do so?” Those who answered “Yes” were the one who got the smiles. Those who said “No” were instantly dismissed.

If that doesn’t set your alarm bells ringing, nothing will.

A neo-Bolshevik style culling of America’s 314 million population appears to be on the cards. If 66 million Russian Christians, according to Solzhenitsyn, were wiped out under Jewish rule in Communist Russia, why should Americans think themselves immune to a similar bloodbath in their own country? “Wars are the Jews’ harvest (http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/r/ftp.cgi?people/r//reichorn.rabbi/the-rabbi-never-existed), for with them we wipe out the Christians and get control of their gold. We have already killed 100 million of them and the end is not yet.” That shocking statement was reportedly made by a French Jew whose very existence is problematic. His name was Rabbi Reichorn, and he was speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben-Judah in Paris in 1869. Henry Ford was to add later, “And no harvest is as rich as civil wars.”

Even if no such rabbi ever existed, the controversial quote nevertheless encapsulates a frightening truth: that we are at war with an implacable enemy with whom we have been embroiled in a death struggle for the last 2000 years. And the tragedy is that most of us, like sleepwalkers in a mist, remain totally unaware of the machinations of this enemy or of the looming pitfalls that lie in front of us.

That the enemy is not entirely Jewish, but is made up of an equally malevolent non-Jewish component, hardly needs emphasis. Anti-Semitism, in the final analysis, is not the answer. Our enemy has two faces, and only one face is Jewish.

If you would like a detailed analysis of who controls America right now, click HERE (http://the-tap.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/who-controls-america.html).

The future looks unimaginably bleak.

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A revised and updated version of Goodbye America (part 1), originally published here (http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Darkmoon-GoodbyeI.html)


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The Greatest Story NEVER Told website (http://thegreateststorynevertold.tv/)

*YouTube channel (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHdemBio61IVEuFFCpDuCsA)

**Deanna Spingola's interview of Dennis Wise, producer of The Greatest Story Never Told

(http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-spingola-zone-11122013.html)


Posted by WHOOLI (http://www.blogger.com/profile/12745432266860223770) at 5:41 PM 1 comment: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=951170409508449660)


Northerntruthseeker Rant For Sunday, November 24th, 2013 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/11/northerntruthseeker-rant-for-sunday.html)




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The Dennis Wise video series: "Adolf Hitler: The Greatest Story Never Told" is a definite must see by everyone, because that part of our history is in dire need of re-evaluation.... It sickens me to see that even today we are bombarded daily by "Hitler was evil"... "Hitler was a madman".... "Hitler was a mass murderer"..."Hitler was out to conquer the world"..... etc... etc.... But where do these claims come from? And why are we "not allowed" to debate these claims?



Read the article here:

(http://www.northerntruthseeker.blogspot.ca/2013/11/northerntruthseeker-rant-for-sunday_24.html)


Posted by RJ Livegood (https://plus.google.com/116061644444283851685) at 7:21 AM 20 comments: (http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5440450620561193447&postID=18574299101831178)

[mick silver]

Was Hitler a Zionist stooge?


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Perhaps no other political figure and period of history is as misunderstood as Adolf Hitler and his rise to power and reign as the Führer of National Socialist Germany. Confused and oftentimes disingenuous conspiracy historians (http://www.amazon.com/Rise-Fourth-Reich-Societies-Threaten/dp/0061245593) and alternative media personalities present a wide variety (http://www.thepinkswastika.com/)of interpretations (http://www.henrymakow.com/001399.html) of Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany, with many claiming Hitler was some sort of secret "Rothschild operative" collaborating with the Jewish international bankers as an agent of Zionist interests in the Middle East, as J. Speer Williams has recently argued (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/hitler-was-a-zionist-stooge-by-j-speer-williams/). These alternative "conspiracy industry"-type theories are as absurd and baseless as the mainstream version of Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany as the embodiment of evil, hell bent on conquering first Europe, then the world, exterminating all Jews, gypsies, and other scapegoated and "persecuted" groups in the process.

Williams begins his recent essay Hitler was a Zionist Stooge (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/hitler-was-a-zionist-stooge-by-j-speer-williams/) this way:

The International Zionists are led by a dark force with an intelligent mentality, but which is totally bereft of compassion, empathy, or basic wisdom.

But since such an intellect is unfathomable to most human minds, I know of no one who can give us all the reasons for Zionism bringing Adolf Hitler to power and then financing the German Nazi war machine. But the fact that it was done is clearly provable.

The financing of Hitler and his war powers was largely handled by the old Max/Paul Warburg controlled Mendelsohn Bank of Amsterdam (all Zionists) and the Schroeder Bank of Frankfort, London, and New York (all Zionists).While Williams makes a good point about the nature of international Zionism as representing a "dark force" that is "totally bereft of compassion, empathy, or basic wisdom", his sophomoric and simplistic contention, without citing any source material or documentation, that a combination of "Zionist" controlled banks in Amsterdam, London, Frankfort, and New York financed Hitler and "his war powers" (whatever that means) is without merit. Williams attempts to convince his readers that Zionist funding of Hitler and the "Nazi war machine" is "clearly provable", yet provides no evidence whatsoever for his claims. He simply declares it so, and expects everyone to blindly follow along. Serious scholars, journalists, and writers provide documentation - using reliable primary and secondary sources - to substantiate their claims. Obviously, J. Speer Williams is not a serious scholar, journalist, or writer.

Hitler and the NSDAP were not, I repeat, were not funded by Jewish or even pro-Zionist sources. They were not “Rothschild agents” or “puppets of the bankers” or “stooges for the Zionists”. They were diametrically opposed to the Jewish supremacist goal of a “New World Order”, which is essentially Jewish domination and subjugation of the entire globe - politically, economically, and culturally - aJewish Utopia (http://archive.org/details/TheJewishUtiopia) so to speak. Hitler and the National Socialist political movement not only spoke openly and honestly about important subjects, clearly identifying the enemy of all humanity – international Jewry – they made serious moves against this destructive, parasitic network of criminals that had wrecked their country and sought to destroy their people. National Socialism is the anti-thesis to Jewish Communism and Jewish plutocratic capitalism, two destructive ideologies Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP clearly recognized as Jewish-inspired philosophies which result in the total destruction of every nation they are practiced in.


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Indeed, Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist movement represented the greatest obstacle that has ever manifested against the parasitic, subversive, and destructive nature of the international Jewish criminal cabal largely controlling the West, pushing for their “New World Order” on every front imaginable.

As Veronica Clark explains in her must read article titled Demystification of the Birth and Funding of the NSDAP (http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2011/volume_3/number_3/demystification_of_the_birth_of_the_nsdap.php), Hitler sought to overcome the class antagonism prevalent throughout Germany (and much of Europe) by establishing a political and social order based on merit, rather than class or wealth, and sought to unify German society around their common German heritage and Aryan race. Funding for the NSDAP came from a variety of sources, including membership fees, speaking engagements, newspaper sales, financial contributions from nationalist-minded small businesses and industrialists, and even elements of the upper classes in German society who recognized the threat of Jewish Marxist communism and wanted to see a revitalized, economically and culturally strong Germany once again.

Theodore Abel’s 1938 book, Why Hitler Came Into Power (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Hitler-Came-into-Power/dp/0674952006) is perhaps the most important, and yet unknown, book exploring the rise of the National Socialist German Worker’s Party and Adolf Hitler. In early 1934, Abel travelled to Germany after convincing the National Socialist government that had recently come to power that Americans, and the world generally, knew far too little about the National Socialist movement, its ideology, its history and rise to power, and its followers. Abel, working under the auspices of Columbia University, proposed an autobiographical essay contest, in which any member or sympathizer of the NSDAP who had joined prior to the party solidifying its political power over the German state in 1933 could submit an essay explaining his or her background, education, experience, and political affiliations for review.


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Abel eventually received 683 manuscripts from a wide variety of National Socialist party members and sympathizers, which he breaks down into age distribution, occupation, class affiliation, and date of joining the NSDAP. Statistical charts and other identifying data are broken down for further analysis as an Appendix. Abel notes that 83 manuscripts were eliminated from consideration, either because they were too short in length and lacking in any detail, or because they were submitted by women, whose entries were used for a separate study published independently of Why Hitler Came Into Power. These manuscripts form the basis for Abel’s work, and numerous excerpts are provided throughout the first two parts of the book from members of the NSDAP themselves, offering readers a unique insight into what motivated and inspired these individuals to join the party and embark on what turned out to be a life long struggle.

In 1986, Why Hitler Came Into Power (http://www.amazon.com/Why-Hitler-Came-into-Power/dp/0674952006) was re-published with a Foreword written by Thomas Childers, who made some profound observations about Abel’s original and unique research into the NSDAP and the rise of Adolf Hitler in Germany. Childers wrote in part:

Abel’s material simply did not fit neatly into the dominate interpretation of National Socialism as a “revolt of the lower middle class.” […]
Abel was struck by the wide variety of motivational factors at work among the respondents, many of which could not be easily subsumed under the interpretive rubric of “lower-middle-class revolt.” […]
These studies have allowed us to identify the social bases of the Nazi following with far greater precision than was ever before possible. Although thematic emphasis and methods differ, these works are in fundamental agreement that support for the NSDAP extended far beyond the lower middle class to elements of the socially established Grossbürgertum (upper middle class) as well as to sizable segments of the blue-collar working class. […]
What attracted members of the upper middle class to the party? Why did many workers turn to the NSDAP? What had drawn them? What role did the NSDAP’s ideological positions play in its popular appeal? How important were Nazi propaganda tactics and organization? These are obviously important questions for any study seeking to explain the sociopolitical dynamics of Nazi success, and it is precisely this set of central issues that Theodore Abel’s work addresses. […]Abel’s book is comprised of three distinct parts. Part One deals with the history of the NSDAP, with chapters titled The Background of the Hitler Movement, The First Period: 1919 – 1923, The Second Period: 1924 – 1929, and The Third Period: 1930 – 1933, which offer unique insights into the struggles, obstacles, and hardships endured by the NSDAP, and its eventual rise in German politics.

Part Two is analytical in nature, and explains how and why the NSDAP movement gained support. What attracted people to National Socialism? What factors lead to the rise and eventual triumph of the NSDAP in German politics? These and other related questions are addressed in these pages, and help clarify the financing and nature of the National Socialist German Workers Party, as well as its popularity and ability to largely unite all segments of the German nation. Abel breaks Part Two into three chapters: Discontent As a Factor, Ideology As a Factor, and The Why of the Hitler Movement.

Finally, Part Three of the book is comprised of six selected autobiographies of the NSDAP members, published in full. Abel publishes the life stories of a worker, an anti-Semite, a soldier, a middle-class youth, a bank clerk, and a farmer – all chosen “to show, in unified, more realistic form, patterns of National Socialist experience separately analyzed in previous chapters.” These selected manuscripts demonstrate the widespread appeal of National Socialism, which united German nationalists and patriots from all backgrounds, social classes, and education levels. Farmers, merchants, soldiers, veterans, teachers, industrial workers, bureaucrats, professionals, managers, fathers, mothers, children – National Socialism appealed to and sought to unify all segments of the German populace, and was largely successful in doing so, especially once firmly in control of the German state.

By relying on primary source material – authentic autobiographies of NSDAP members and sympathizers – Abel offers historians and other interested parties a unique analysis of the rise of Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP not found elsewhere.

[mick silver]

NSDAP not found elsewhere.


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Just to further discredit this idea that Hitler and the NSDAP were funded by "the Jews", consider the following excerpt of the legendary Michael Collins Piper's must read book, The New Babylon: Those Who Reign Supreme - A Panoramic Overview of the Historical, Religious and Economic Origins of the New World Order (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/17/michael-collins-piper-demolishes-kosher-anti-hitler-myths/):

There is also the legend that “The Jewish bankers” or “The Zionist bankers” (used often interchangeably) financed Hitler. Not true. James Pool, in his authoritative work,Who Financed Hitler?, demonstrates quite to the contrary.
In one instance, a Jewish financier in Germany did give money to the Nazi Party–prior to the rise of Adolf Hitler–but those funds were designed to help Hitler’s intra-party opposition to stop Hitler. But despite this fact, some “patriots” still say that “The Jews Backed Hitler.”
Many of those who worship at the altar of this nonsense cite a flagrantly-fraudulent document of shadowy origins entitled Hitler’s Secret Bankers, ostensibly written by one “Sidney Warburg,” one of those “Jewish bankers.” But this document, as we’ve said, is a fraud.
The late Dr. Anthony Sutton’s Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler has promoted this theory, based in part on the Warburg travesty and has given further institutionalization to this mythology–truth be damned.
American banks and corporations did work with the Hitler regime, usually a continuation of previous financial arrangements going back decades, but this was not part of any grand conspiracy to bring Hitler to power. The claim that the Bush family was integral to the rise of Hitler is another myth. Kevin Phillips–no admirer of the Bush dynasty–examines the actual circumstances surrounding the Bush-Hitler scenario in his book, American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush and puts the facts in proper perspective.Some even go so far as to claim Hitler was in fact Jewish. This slanderous conspiracy theory has been debunked by serious researchers (http://carolynyeager.net/fake-legends-adolf-hitler%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cjewish-grandfather%E2%80%9D) and even mainstream, establishment academics, such as the British historian Ian Kershaw who wrote a bestselling biography of Adolf Hitler titled, Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris (http://www.amazon.com/Hitler-1889-1936-Hubris-Ian-Kershaw/dp/0393320359). In the very first chapter Fantasy and Failure, Kershaw thoroughly debunks the false rumor that Hitler himself may have had Jewish ancestry (pg. 7-9):

... [Allegedly] Adolf Hitler's grandfather was Jewish. Rumours to that effect circulated in Munich cafes in the early 1920s, and were fostered by sensationalist journalism of the foreign press during the 1930s. It was suggested that the name 'Huttler' was Jewish, 'revealed' that he could be traced to a Jewish family called Hitler in Bucharest, and even claimed that his father had been sired by Baron Rothschild, in whose house in Vienna his grandmother had allegedly spent some time as a servant. But the most serious speculation about Hitler's supposed Jewish background has occurred since the Second World War, and is directly traceable to the memoirs of the leading Nazi lawyer Governor General of Poland, Hans Frank, dictated in his Nuremberg cell while awaiting hangman.

Frank claimed that he had been called in by Hitler towards the end of 1930 and shown a letter from his nephew William Patrick Hitler (the son of his half-brother Alois, who had been briefly married to an Irish woman) threatening, in connection with the press stories circulating about Hitler's background, to expose the fact that Hitler had Jewish blood flowing in his veins. [...]

Frank's story gained wide circulation in the 1950s. But it simply does not stand up. [...] Hans Frank's memoirs, dictated at a time when he was waiting for the hangman and plainly undergoing psychological crisis, are full of inaccuracies and have to be used with caution. With regard to the story of Hitler's alleged Jewish grandfather, they are valueless.Back to Williams' piece, Hitler was a Zionist Stooge (http://www.totalfascism.com/the-myth-of-white-supremacism/). After claiming that international Jewish bankers in London, Amsterdam, Frankfort and New York financed Hitler and "his war powers" without citing a single source or elaborating on the details of this alleged funding, he goes on to claim that the German chemical giant I.G. Farben was under Zionist control, also implying that this industrial conglomerate was working directly with the Hitler government. Williams mentions that I.G. Farben produced Zyklon B gas used in "Nazi concentration camps" without mentioning that Zyklon B was actually used for health and sanitary reasons, not in some evil plan to systematically murder the Jews and others detained by the German government. Of course, there are no citations to demonstrate that I.G. Farben was indeed under Zionist control or working with the National Socialist government in any nefarious way.

Williams then makes claims I've heard before and read on the internet, almost always without a reliable source to back them up - that the Allies deliberately avoided bombing I.G. Farben industrial facilities located in Germany and German-occupied territories. From the article:

During the massive fire bombing of almost all of Germany and many of its innocent citizens, the Farben facilities were carefully spared. One used to be able to go onto the Internet and see aerial photographs of the I.G. Farben plants left whole, while everything else around them had been bombed into ruins.Again, no citation to back up these contentions. A simple search on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben) for I.G. Farben has this to say:

Facilities during World War II
IG Farben facilities were bombing targets of the Oil Campaign of World War II, and up to 1941, there were 5 Nazi Germany Buna plants that produced Buna N by the Lebedev process.
Dwory
The Buna Chemical Plant at Dwory was under construction by 1943, after a March 2, 1942 contract with "IG Farbenindustrie AG Auschwitz." The Buna Werke plant, which produced synthetic oil and rubber (from coal), was the beginning of SS activity and camps near Auschwitz III-Monowitz during the Holocaust. At its peak in 1944, this factory made use of 83,000 slave laborers. Today, the plant operates as "Dwory S.A."
Frankfurt
In addition to the "cavernous" IG Farben building at Frankfurt, a Hoechst AG chemical factory in Frankfurt was bombed by the RAF on September 26, 1944. Where does Williams, and those who continue to make these claims about I.G. Farben, get their information? Inquiring minds would like to know. What sources document that I.G. Farben was controlled by "Zionist bankers" working with Hitler, and that its industrial facilities were spared from Allied firebombing campaigns?


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If Hitler and the NSDAP were "Zionist stooges", why on earth did they do things like this (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/05/the-nazis-gave-rothschild-bankers-the-boot/) or this (http://zioncrimefactory.com/2012/04/03/hitler-gave-freemasonic-jews-the-boot/) or this (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/ProfessionalCivilService.html)? Why did they make movies like The Eternal Jew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN79ti93NBY), exposing the enemies of the German race to their fellow kinsmen? Consider Adolf Hitler's political testament (http://www.hitler.org/writings/last_testament/) he dictated shortly before he committed suicide in Berlin in April 1945. Does this man sound like a "Zionist stooge" to you?

More than thirty years have passed since 1914 when I made my modest contribution as a volunteer in the First World War, which was forced upon the Reich.

In these three decades love and loyalty to my people have guided all my thoughts, actions and my life. They gave me the strength to make the most difficult decisions ever to confront mortal man. In these three decades I have spent my strength and my health.

It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish origin or working for Jewish interests. I have made too many offers for the limitation and control of armaments, which posterity will not be cowardly enough always to disregard, for responsibility for the outbreak of this war to be placed on me. Nor have I ever wished that, after the appalling First World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America. Centuries will go by, but from the ruins of our towns and monuments the hatred of those ultimately responsible will always grow anew against the people whom we have to thank for all this: international Jewry and its henchmen. [...]If Hitler was somehow "in cahoots with the Jews", why did he say things like this all throughout Mein Kampf and in the various speeches he gave?

The Jews have not the ability which is necessary for the founding of a civilization, for in them there is not, and never has been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element in the higher development of mankind. Therefore, the Jewish intellect will never be constructive, but always destructive. (Chapter XI, pg. 209)Another claim often made by individuals in Williams' camp is that somehow Adolf Hitler is the "founder of Israel", which is an absurd and extremely ignorant claimfor a variety of reasons.

It was Britain, through the Balfour Declaration (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/balfour.html), addressed to none other than Lord Rothschild himself, that initially facilitated the establishment of the illegitimate terrorist state of "Israel", not Germany. Germany never supported or wanted a Jewish state in Palestine. Hitler and NSDAP policy were primarily concerned with getting the Jews out of Germany (and eventually all of Europe), and did in fact collaborate with Zionist organizations and factions that promoted Jewish emigration to Palestine and the West. They even entered into economic agreements (http://codoh.com/library/document/892) with these organizations to not only facilitate the emigration of Jews from Germany, but also bolster Germans exports. Some German Jews ended up moving to Palestine,many more went to London, Paris, New York, and Hollywood, where with their fellow Jews already in the West they would begin their genetically inspired systematic assault on and subversion of Western culture (http://www.john-friend.net/2012/12/organized-jewry-destroyers-of-western.html).

Mark Weber of the Institute for Historical Review (http://ihr.org/) lays this out quite clearly in an article titled Zionism and the Third Reich (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html):

[...] German support for Zionism was not unlimited. Government and Party officials were very mindful of the continuing campaign by powerful Jewish communities in the United States, Britain and other countries to mobilize "their" governments and fellow citizens against Germany. As long as world Jewry remained implacably hostile toward National Socialist Germany, and as long as the great majority of Jews around the world showed little eagerness to resettle in the Zionist "promised land," a sovereign Jewish state in Palestine would not really "solve" the international Jewish question. Instead, German officials reasoned, it would immeasurably strengthen this dangerous anti-German campaign.German backing for Zionism was therefore limited to support for a Jewish homeland in Palestine under British control, not a sovereign Jewish state.
A Jewish state in Palestine, the Foreign Minister informed diplomats in June 1937, would not be in Germany's interest because it would not be able to absorb all Jews around the world, but would only serve as an additional power base for international Jewry, in much the same way as Moscow served as a base for international Communism. Reflecting something of a shift in official policy, the German press expressed much greater sympathy in 1937 for Palestinian Arab resistance to Zionist ambitions, at a time when tension and conflict between Jews and Arabs in Palestine was sharply increasing.
A Foreign Office circular bulletin of June 22, 1937, cautioned that in spite of support for Jewish settlement in Palestine, "it would nevertheless be a mistake to assume that Germany supports the formation of a state structure in Palestine under some form of Jewish control. In view of the anti-German agitation of international Jewry, Germany cannot agree that the formation of a Palestine Jewish state would help the peaceful development of the nations of the world." "The proclamation of a Jewish state or a Jewish-administrated Palestine," warned an internal memorandum by the Jewish affairs section of the SS, "would create for Germany a new enemy, one that would have a deep influence on developments in the Near East." Another SS agency predicted that a Jewish state "would work to bring special minority protection to Jews in every country, therefore giving legal protection to the exploitation activity of world Jewry." In January 1939, Hitler's new Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, likewise warned in another circular bulletin that "Germany must regard the formation of a Jewish state as dangerous" because it "would bring an international increase in power to world Jewry."Hitler and the NSDAP did not advocate for or support an independent Jewish state in Palestine. In fact, in Mein Kampf Hitler accurately described what a Jewish state would look like should the Gentile world allow it to happen:

The Jew’s domination in the state seems so assured that now not only can he call himself a Jew again, but he ruthlessly admits his ultimate national and political designs. A section of his race openly owns itself to be a foreign people, yet even here they lie. For while the Zionists try to make the rest of the world believe that the national consciousness of the Jew finds its satisfaction in the creation of a Palestinian state, the Jews again slyly dupe the dumb Goyim. It doesn’t even enter their heads to build up a Jewish state in Palestine for the purpose of living there; all they want is a central organization for their international world swindle, endowed with its own sovereign rights and removed from the intervention of other states: a haven for convicted scoundrels and a university for budding crooks.Bottom line is, the Jews were dead set on establishing their criminal, usurping state in Palestine, not only to fulfill their twisted messianic prophecies, but also to gain a safe haven and central headquarters for their global crime syndicate, a fact Hitler recognized. He wanted the Jews out of Germany in order to rebuild German society after the devastation of WWI, correctly recognizing the subversive and destructive nature innate to the Jewish race. The Jews in Palestine perfected their use of terrorism and underhandedness and declared "independence" shortly after Germany's defeat in WWII, using their fake "Holocaust" story and agents of influence across the globe to sell their false narrative of history to the rest of the world. And who were the first governments to recognize the illegitimate, terrorist state of "Israel"? Two of the countries most responsible for the genocidal annihilation of Hitler's Germany (http://www.john-friend.net/2012/11/truth-militia-radio-with-john-friend_26.html), which was resisting the forces of international Jewry, not collaborating with them: the United States and Soviet Union.

On May 14, 1948, the leaders of the Jewish organizations in Palestine, headed by David Ben-Gurion,proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel, to take effect at midnight that night.
At that point, the State of Israel came into existence. The United States recognized the provisional Jewish government as de facto authority of the Jewish state within minutes. The Soviet Union granted de jure recognition almost immediately in 1948 along with seven other states within the next five days (Guatemala, Byelorussia, the Ukraine, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Uruguay, and Yugoslavia). [Source (http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_independence_recognition_who.php)]Hitler and National Socialist Germany's ultimate aim was the removal of the Jews from Germany and Europe, and they collaborated with the Zionist movement to accomplish this goal. After the Jews and their puppet Allies brutally destroyed Germany in WWII, which represented the greatest threat in recent history to the global Jewish crime network behind “The New World Order”, it was only a matter of time before "Israel" would be officially established.

Hitler was not “the founder of Israel” and in no way supported the establishment of an independent Jewish state in Palestine as many continue to claim. Hitler and National Socialist Germany were destroyed to pave the way for the establishment of Israel. Blaming Hitler and National Socialist Germany for something the Jews were determined to do on their own – with the assistance of their puppets in the West – is a gross distortion of history.

To conclude his ridiculous and unscholarly essay Hitler was a Zionist Stooge (http://www.darkmoon.me/2013/hitler-was-a-zionist-stooge-by-j-speer-williams/), J. Speer Williams claims that there are "deeper reasons" underlying why the Zionists brought Hitler to power, and that ultimately the end goal of the Zionist conspiracy is to "mutate and ultimately exterminate" the Semitic gene, which according to Williams included both Jews and Arabs. In the very next sentence, however, Williams admits that he can't even prove his point:

But, again, I cannot prove any of that, except for the fact of depleting uranium being used in the Zionist Middle Eastern wars of US/Israeli aggression.The only thing that can be demonstrably proven is that J. Speer Williams simply does not know what he is talking about, and is perpetuating myths and slanders about Adolf Hitler and National Socialist Germany, albeit of a different nature than the lies endlessly promoted by the mainstream mass media and educational establishment. J. Speer Williams and other disingenuous and ignorant individuals confusing the public with ridiculous and baseless theories that "Hitler was a Zionist stooge" are essentially doing the bidding of the Jews who have demonized and distorted the actions, legacy, and worldview of Adolf Hitler and National Socialism for so long. Please do not take these people seriously.

[Tumbleweed]

There is a video at this link of "The Greatest White Man". If you put it on full screen and look at the faces of the people in the photos it appears to me that he loved his people and they loved him.



http://www.whty.org/greatest.htm

[Bigjon]

This supposed persecution of the Jews by Hitler works both ways. The Jewish leadership wanted the Nuremberg Laws separating the Jews from the Germans and Hitler and company provided them with their wishes. The Jewish Leadership was afraid of losing their congregation without which they are nothing, so Hitler's screaming about the Jews was part of the script.

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From what I've read of history Hitler was trying to save the white christian german people from the Jews. He was defeated because of their treachery and lies. It's happened to many others through the centuries. In Mike Kings "History of the New World Order " he gives many examples of the Jews killing people who got in their way from 1763 until the present.

Recently I was reading the book "Hellstorm" by Thomas Goodrich who tells the first hand accounts of what the german people went through in WWII because of the Jews desire and treachery to exterminate them. It was so gruesome I had to stop. I thought I'd read something else for awhile. Thought I'd open the new testament to where ever it happened to open and read. It opened to Acts 28 and in that chapter the Jews were wanting and trying to kill the apostle Paul.

Jesus warned us about the Jews and who they are when he confronted them in the temple. They wanted to kill him and they did through their treachery. They have killed many, many people throughout the centuries because they interfered with their plans. I believe they have been and still are the most treacherous, lieing demons to ever walk the face of the earth.

I've read the arguments of those who think Hitler was working with the Jews and I've remained neutral because I didn't know enough about what happened to make a judgement. After all the reading I've done I finaly came to the conclusion that he saw the Jews for what they were and was trying to save his people from them. This idea that he was a Jew or working with them is bullshit in my opinion.

[Bigjon]

From what I've read of history Hitler was trying to save the white christian german people from the Jews. He was defeated because of their treachery and lies. It's happened to many others through the centuries. In Mike Kings "History of the New World Order " he gives many examples of the Jews killing people who got in their way from 1763 until the present.

Recently I was reading the book "Hellstorm" by Thomas Goodrich who tells the first hand accounts of what the german people went through in WWII because of the Jews desire and treachery to exterminate them. It was so gruesome I had to stop. I thought I'd read something else for awhile. Thought I'd open the new testament to where ever it happened to open and read. It opened to Acts 28 and in that chapter the Jews were wanting and trying to kill the apostle Paul.

Jesus warned us about the Jews and who they are when he confronted them in the temple. They wanted to kill him and they did through their treachery. They have killed many, many people throughout the centuries because they interfered with their plans. I believe they have been and still are the most treacherous, lieing demons to ever walk the face of the earth.

I've read the arguments of those who think Hitler was working with the Jews and I've remained neutral because I didn't know enough about what happened to make a judgement. After all the reading I've done I finaly came to the conclusion that he saw the Jews for what they were and was trying to save his people from them. This idea that he was a Jew or working with them is bullshit in my opinion.

You have a right to that opinion, but my opinion is just the opposite, because the Jews have a method that they like to control all sides of every conflict.

The results from the war speak very loudly that Hitler stopped German forces everytime they were on the cusp of victory and redirected them into a losing position.

I still believe Hitler was controlled opposition doing the Rothschild's and Warburg's bidding. It did lead to the now famous holohoax which to this day allows Jews a free pass, get out of jail card to be played as many times as they like.

The Jews were never out of power and only lost Germany for a period of 15 years 1930 to 1945. In the aftermath of WWII their hold was supreme, right up to the present. The Jews real power is their ability to stay behind the curtain and operate through proxies who get all the credit while the Jews get all the money and power.

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60233-Amazing-Adolf-Hitler-Tribute-Colour-HD&p=531714&viewfull=1#post531714

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lcDpptCdYY0

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righitpix.html





http://www.thefinalsolutiontoadolphhitler.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ5MeQnmLo0&feature=gv


http://www.historynet.com/hitlers-greatest-blunders.htm

I think that these so called blunders were intentional on Hitlers part.

[Tumbleweed]

Bigjon I've read the posts from the threads you've provided the links to in the past and stayed out of them because I hadn't made up my mind on this subject. I've done a lot of reading on the Bolshevik revolution and the first and second world wars. Mike Kings " Forbidden History of the New World Order" and "The Bad War" helped me to make up my mind. His books cost quite a bit but are worth it to me because it helped me to see all these wars and their connections as a whole. They are all connected and he shows how they are and the progression through the years that lead to these wars. He also shows who was pushing for them behind the scenes and why.

When it comes to him not pushing on when he could have from what I've read it was because he wasn't the cold blooded ruthless killer the Jew lies and propaganda have made him out to be. He didn't want to destroy other members of the white christian race like his Jewish enemies and their lackeys.

Dr. William Pierce wrote an article on Adolph Hitlers greatness compared to the enemies he was forced against his will to fight and it's a good one. If you'll get the books by Mike King I mentioned you'll see how he was forced in to WWII. The article by Dr. Pierce is at this link and I'll just post the link because it's to long to copy and paste. He was a better man than all those he was forced to fight because of Jew lies and treachery.

http://archive.org/stream/PierceAdolfHitlerTheMeasureOfGreatness/Pierce-AdolfHitler-TheMeasureOfGreatness_djvu.txt

[Jewboo]

After all the reading I've done I finally came to the conclusion that he saw the Jews for what they were and was trying to save his people from them. This idea that he was a Jew or working with them is bullshit in my opinion.




http://www.zioncrimefactory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Hitler-Climbs-Steps.jpg


I totally agree with Tumbleweed.

:)

[Bigjon]

The whole point of WWI and Versailles treaty was to get Germany into WWII. Hitler got the job done for the Jews.

No one forced him into war, it is true there were atrocities at Bromberg, but who committed those atrocities is unclear, some say the Nazi's did it as a false flag event, some say the Pole's did it. The Pole's were trying to get a war going with Germany, so I believe the Pole's did it.

Hitler could have ignored the Pole's and made them be the aggressor by attacking Germany, but that didn't happen as Hitler was either drawn into the trap or was a willing accomplice to the destruction of Germany.


Again, his intentional blunders speak louder about who he was, as he lead German's to slavery at the hands of the Jews.

[Bigjon]

I wonder if all of you supporters of Hitler, also support the baggage that comes with him?


National Socialism was all about the fascist state. Where the state is superior to the individual and there are no individual rights. YOU are the property of the State. You have no free will, or if you do you better keep quiet about it. Those concentration camps are for dissidents.


You all should love where America is going as you seem to be advocating a hero to follow along the same path.

[Horn]

"Saving his people" by launch blitzkrieg warfare into anything close that moved.

Like it hadn't been tried (terrible results) with Europe in the past.

No, he was just another Euro-fashionist elite, same as most of them to this day.

King of the tarts.