Astrology is real

[vacuum]

After looking up my own birth sign a few weeks ago out of curiosity, I was surprised at how dead accurate it was. Then I started looking up other people's birthdays who I know (thanks facebook), and I'm honestly shocked at how dead accurate these are. I previously thought there was "probably something to it", but had never actually looked into the details.

Your Sign Explained!
The Zodiac is made up of 12 different sun signs. Your date of birth determines which one you are. Click your sign below for complete detailed information on your sign:


Aries (http://www.astrology-online.com/aries.htm) - March 21 - April 20

Taurus (http://www.astrology-online.com/taurus.htm) - April 21 - May 21

Gemini (http://www.astrology-online.com/gemini.htm) - May 22 - June 21

Cancer (http://www.astrology-online.com/cancer.htm) - June 22 - July 22

Leo (http://www.astrology-online.com/leo.htm) - July 23 -August 21

Virgo (http://www.astrology-online.com/virgo.htm) - August 22 - September 23

Libra (http://www.astrology-online.com/libra.htm) - September 24 - October 23

Scorpio (http://www.astrology-online.com/scorpio.htm) - October 24 - November 22

Sagittarius (http://www.astrology-online.com/sagittar.htm) - November 23 - December 22

Capricorn (http://www.astrology-online.com/capricrn.htm) - December 23 - January 20

Aquarius (http://www.astrology-online.com/aquarius.htm) - January 21 - February 19

Pisces (http://www.astrology-online.com/pisces.htm) - February 20- March 20


Or click your sign in the image to the right!

http://www.astrology-online.com/horoscope/zodiacwh1.jpg

http://www.astrology-online.com/persn.htm

[Serpo]

one interesting part of astrology is the moon is in a different sign every 2 and a half days and during these 2 and half days the influence of the sign affects society in different ways.

[joboo]

I remember reading a study done where classrooms of university students were recruited to prove efficacy of astrology readings. They all swore up and down how accurate everything was, but the ironic part is everyone was given the exact same horoscope.

[vacuum]

I remember reading a study done where classrooms of university students were recruited to prove efficacy of astrology readings. They all swore up and down how accurate everything was, but the ironic part is everyone was given the exact same horoscope.

Just like the uncertainty principle, the closer you try to nail it down in time (to specific days or weeks), the less accurate you'll be. So a daily horoscope for example is almost noise. That's my theory, I haven't even looked into them. I have found the birth signs however to be pretty accurate. Anyone can check it for themselves. Also, the entries posted above are very long and detailed. They aren't like a 3 sentence horoscope. They are all very different as well.

Besides, if you want to refute this, you don't need a university study. It's simple, all you have to do is:
1) Look up the entry for your birthday above
2) Read it and see if it passes the BS test (does it describe you?)
3) Read the other entries to make sure that they don't seem to apply equally well to you
4) Share your findings. Your opinion based on your own findings is valuable, and enough for me. You don't have to prove anything, just give your best shot based on what you know.

Remember, we never have absolute truth about anything. The best we can do is just take things as they appear to be. See my post here (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62293-The-Gentleman-s-Guide-To-Forum-Spies-%28spooks-feds-etc-%29&p=571004&viewfull=1#post571004).

[Serpo]

I remember reading a study done where classrooms of university students were recruited to prove efficacy of astrology readings. They all swore up and down how accurate everything was, but the ironic part is everyone was given the exact same horoscope.

if you dont know your scorpios from your capricorns you are in big trouble...........{0}


Moon Sign Calculator



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the moon sign is very interesting

if you look at this chart of a month you can see the moon coming and going every few days from one sign to another.

your moon sign is worked out this way.......the sign the moon was in during your birth. very simple .......

silver is the metal of the moon

certain times are better than others ,for instance if you want a really great party have it when the moon is in leo and that is the 12 on this month.

when you get an idea of the influences of the moon and the relation with the signs then every few days a whole new influence is upon us.

followed this for years but not so much lately.......


another way to understand this is to go outside when the moon is out and directly behind the moon is a constellation of stars relating to some astro sign that the moon will pass across taking a few days.
now these stars are real and the moon is real and the light or influences being directed at us are real so in this way the moons influence can be big especially relating to peoples and the public behavior, and is very interesting to observe.
sometimes the moons influence will mean its a quiet reflective time or it could be the opposite.......just a rough outline

[singular_me]

yes astrology is at least 85% accurate from my experience , though I prefer Pythagorean numerology (90% accuracy) , its easier and faster to get a chart. Vedics and older ancient (pagan) cultures often chose the moon as their calendar comprises 13 months. I think it is when Christianity came into play that TPTB imposed a 12 month Solar based calendar. All civilizations have been ruled by astro-theology, even ours today. The rulers of this planet really choose the best time-frames according to astrology to operate against us.

Vacuum, when you get a chance look for your "your nodes of the moon in astrology" , which is about the past lives and the current challenges to overcome which you can find based on your DOB

http://www.cafeastrology.com/northnodetables.html

most sites on the net dont go deep enough when interpreting Lunar Nodes, so I'd recommend to spend some time at Barnes and Nobles for example and read about the subject.

farming and the moon cycles is very real.

PS: when it comes down to analyzing characters and world events, and as Man was given the dominion over Nature, I believe that all those predicting tools cease to be accurate (50% or less accuracy) if one surrenders to "serendipity and randomness" or "universal laws of Chaos. What I mean here is that as long as we respond to predetermined social archetypes, we follow patterns that can be entirely predicted. So, in the big picture, astrology, numerology, etc aren't neither entirely true nor false. Just like anything else. :)

12 signs
12 octaves
12 tribes of Israel
12 apostles
etc... the 3/triangle multiplied by 4/square
it also is about sacred geometry :)

[Sparky]

After looking up my own birth sign a few weeks ago out of curiosity, I was surprised at how dead accurate it was.
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Could you provide a couple of examples?

[sirgonzo420]

Could you provide a couple of examples?

Evangeline Adams was a famous astrologer who displayed her skill in a courtroom...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7FN6MnufgM

[StreetsOfGold]

I was into astrology for 9 years before I got saved. It's very subtle and crafted to draw you in and get you to looking at the signs for guidance.
It's a very wicked and occultic thing to entrap your mind. Leave it alone or like anything else that is sinful, it WILL suck you in and can take over your life or a part of it.

Wisdom comes from God and and his word, it alone should be your guide. Did astrology give me the insight to put my fed notes into Gold and silver? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. The Bible did!!

Regarding those that rely on God and his word (and reject astrology) for their guide
Daniel 1:20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Isaiah 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

Remember... The devil can give you (worldly) blessings but there is ALWAYS a caveat that goes with it. It has something attached to it.... sorrow
Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

[hoarder]

It's not even remotely close to accurate in my case.

[iOWNme]

It's not even remotely close to accurate in my case.

Im with Hoarder. if this is so accurate, what sign am I?

:)

[sirgonzo420]

Im with Hoarder. if this is so accurate, what sign am I?

:)

There are pretty much an infinite number of variables... it's not just as simple as "I'm a Gemini... lemme check the newspaper for today's horoscope..."

Sometimes when someone says "I bet you're a Leo!", they are not "seeing" the Sun sign (the sign that the sun was in at birth), but the rising sign. You may think that "you are a Libra" because that's what your Sun sign is, but I may see you "as a Taurus" because that's your Rising Sign.

Your Rising Sign (also called the Ascendant) is how the people around you may tend to see you.

For example, someone could have their Sun in Cancer, but have Leo rising, and so they may appear to "be a Leo".... long hair for one example off the top of my head.



It's not even remotely close to accurate in my case.

I bet you are referring to your Sun Sign, correct?

Check your ascendant... In your case, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Capricorn.

[singular_me]

There are pretty much an infinite number of variables... it's not just as simple as "I'm a Gemini... lemme check the newspaper for today's horoscope..."

Sometimes when someone says "I bet you're a Leo!", they are not "seeing" the Sun sign (the sign that the sun was in at birth), but the rising sign. You may think that "you are a Libra" because that's what your Sun sign is, but I may see you "as a Taurus" because that's your Rising Sign.

Your Rising Sign (also called the Ascendant) is how the people around you may tend to see you.

For example, someone could have their Sun in Cancer, but have Leo rising, and so they may appear to "be a Leo".... long hair for one example off the top of my head.




I bet you are referring to your Sun Sign, correct?

Check your ascendant... In your case, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Capricorn.

After 40 years or so of age, the rising sign takes over...

ps I never read horoscopes. But I had my chart done by a "serious' astrologer once, in my mid 20s, and it is pretty convincing

[iOWNme]

There are pretty much an infinite number of variables... it's not just as simple as "I'm a Gemini... lemme check the newspaper for today's horoscope..."

Sometimes when someone says "I bet you're a Leo!", they are not "seeing" the Sun sign (the sign that the sun was in at birth), but the rising sign. You may think that "you are a Libra" because that's what your Sun sign is, but I may see you "as a Taurus" because that's your Rising Sign.

Your Rising Sign (also called the Ascendant) is how the people around you may tend to see you.

For example, someone could have their Sun in Cancer, but have Leo rising, and so they may appear to "be a Leo".... long hair for one example off the top of my head.



What is the Easter Bunny's sign?


:)

[vacuum]

I was into astrology for 9 years before I got saved. It's very subtle and crafted to draw you in and get you to looking at the signs for guidance.
It's a very wicked and occultic thing to entrap your mind. Leave it alone or like anything else that is sinful, it WILL suck you in and can take over your life or a part of it.

Wisdom comes from God and and his word, it alone should be your guide. Did astrology give me the insight to put my fed notes into Gold and silver? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. The Bible did!!

Regarding those that rely on God and his word (and reject astrology) for their guide
Daniel 1:20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Isaiah 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

Remember... The devil can give you (worldly) blessings but there is ALWAYS a caveat that goes with it. It has something attached to it.... sorrow
Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

I agree with you that using astrology like some kind of magical practice that can predict anything and answer any question is a huge trap. The key is to recognize there is a phenomena, glean whatever useful utility that can be had from it, and add that information to everything else you know.

That's why I don't necessarily want to have a big discussion proving or disproving it. The key is utility. Look it up, see if it's accurate, and take what you get at face value. If over time it appears to be a useful tool, then use it.

I'm sure there are exact, fundamental, principles behind it, but it would take too long to try to analyze everything from "first principles", which themselves are based on unknown connections to modern science.

Another curiosity/dual purpose is to see if people actually look up their sign and make their own judgement, about themselves, with their own critical thinking. Some people would have a very long argument about this without even looking it up and seeing if it clearly applies or doesn't. I think it's an important skill for us to have to be able to look at something without bias or using a huge intellectual framework and give it a judgement. Overall, this is a much more important issue than the topic at hand.

[sirgonzo420]

After 40 years or so of age, the rising sign takes over...

ps I never read horoscopes. But I had my chart done by a "serious' astrologer once, in my mid 20s, and it is pretty convincing

In my mind, I associate you with Aquarius. {**}


Even setting aside all the "meaning"... it is still very cool to know where the heavenly bodies were at one's own birth.

If someone wants to give up their exact birthdate/time and birthplace, I'm pretty damn confident that they would be quite surprised to find out how accurate astrology can be. In general, I keep my birthdate/time/place info to myself... for the same reason that one does not show their hole cards in a poker game! ;D

[singular_me]

I was into astrology for 9 years before I got saved. It's very subtle and crafted to draw you in and get you to looking at the signs for guidance.
It's a very wicked and occultic thing to entrap your mind. Leave it alone or like anything else that is sinful, it WILL suck you in and can take over your life or a part of it.

Wisdom comes from God and and his word, it alone should be your guide. Did astrology give me the insight to put my fed notes into Gold and silver? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. The Bible did!!

Regarding those that rely on God and his word (and reject astrology) for their guide
Daniel 1:20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Isaiah 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

Remember... The devil can give you (worldly) blessings but there is ALWAYS a caveat that goes with it. It has something attached to it.... sorrow
Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

I am sure that somewhere in your chart, the religious advocacy is mentioned. However any form prohibition is useless.

when physicists says that the sun still has 9 billions of years to go, thats okay? Looking at the forecast to see if it will rain enough for the food to grow, thats okay? The Revelation predicting gloom and doom for non Christians, thats okay?

all I want to say here is that, most people are interested in what their future may hold... the most difficult is to find a serious professional who will not use one his knowledge to manipulate, because weak persons can become addicted to it. Just like to a shrink or their meds. There is nothing that is risk free, I am afraid.

In numerology, my name = 7 , the best fit number for spiritual concerns, revolutionaries, visionaries, arts, research and analytical matters.

[singular_me]

In my mind, I associate you with Aquarius. {**}

I am a tricky case... ROFLOL, I am a leo rising sagittarius, all fire... so watch out. but I am not going to tell you where my "moon" is... :)





If someone wants to give up their exact birthdate/time and birthplace, I'm pretty damn confident that they would be quite surprised to find out how accurate astrology can be. In general, I keep my birthdate/time/place info to myself... for the same reason that one does not show their hole cards in a poker game! ;D

Many firms use astrology, graphology, numerology when recruiting, one would be VERY surprised.

[sirgonzo420]

I am a tricky case... ROFLOL, I am a leo rising sagittarius, all fire... so watch out. but I am not going to tell you where my "moon" is... :)

Fire Sun Sign and fire rising here too.... I won't tell where my moon is either except that it's right up in the sky where I generally keep it. ;D


Many firms use astrology, graphology, numerology when recruiting, one would be VERY surprised.

As J.P. Morgan once said: "Millionaires don't use astrology. Billionaires do."

Ol' J.P. Morgan's astrologer (Evangeline Adams) kept Ol' J.P. from drowning when she encouraged him not to voyage on the Titanic.

We may have been better off as a country, and planet had Ms. Adams had one less client....


What is the Easter Bunny's sign?


http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/smiley.gif

Tell me his birthdate/time and I'll tell you.

Upon further reflection, the Easter Bunny would pretty much have to be an Arian.... I'm not sure about Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy.

;)

[Serpo]

a lot of people not into astro are earth signs...................

[joboo]

Do the stars, moon, etc.. have any bearing on the conditions on which one is conceived? Perhaps.

One thing I do know is monthly cycles revolve around full moons due to it being bright at night, which led to less people sleeping when settled down for the night, and more people getting their groove on. Cause/effect.

Giggity...

[sirgonzo420]

Do the stars, moon, etc.. have any bearing on the conditions on which one is conceived? Perhaps.

One thing I do know is monthly cycles revolve around full moons due to it being bright at night, which led to less people sleeping when settled down for the night, and more people getting their groove on. Cause/effect.

Giggity...

LOL! See! You're starting to get it! ;)

Obviously heavenly bodies have an effect on life on Earth... like the moon and the tides...

Or the fact that it is Noon and Midnight AT THE SAME TIME, the only causal difference between the two being the perception of the angle of the Sun's rays as seen from the Earth.

Think about it... it is night and day simultaneously, but the angle of the Sun's rays as perceived from Earth is what makes the difference to us. Astrology is a geocentric, perception based system for understanding the interconnectedness of the Cosmos.

I don't see it as the planets controlling things or anything like that, just that all things are ultimately connected, and part of one eternal, infinite, Great Work.

I used to be a skeptic too, but Truth rears its head in the strangest of places...

[chad]

I was into astrology for 9 years before I got saved. It's very subtle and crafted to draw you in and get you to looking at the signs for guidance.
It's a very wicked and occultic thing to entrap your mind. Leave it alone or like anything else that is sinful, it WILL suck you in and can take over your life or a part of it.

Wisdom comes from God and and his word, it alone should be your guide. Did astrology give me the insight to put my fed notes into Gold and silver? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. The Bible did!!

Regarding those that rely on God and his word (and reject astrology) for their guide
Daniel 1:20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Isaiah 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

Remember... The devil can give you (worldly) blessings but there is ALWAYS a caveat that goes with it. It has something attached to it.... sorrow
Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

maybe you got catholicism and astrology mixed up in those 9 years.

[StreetsOfGold]

maybe you got catholicism and astrology mixed up in those 9 years.

All things occult wise have some kinship :)

[JDRock]

" millionaires dont believe in astrology...BILLIONAIRES do" i believe that was jp morgan. im not espousing a total belief system in it, just saying .....and the bible mentions their influence as well...

[Libertarian_Guard]

I was into astrology for 9 years before I got saved. It's very subtle and crafted to draw you in and get you to looking at the signs for guidance.
It's a very wicked and occultic thing to entrap your mind. Leave it alone or like anything else that is sinful, it WILL suck you in and can take over your life or a part of it.

Wisdom comes from God and and his word, it alone should be your guide. Did astrology give me the insight to put my fed notes into Gold and silver? NOT ON YOUR LIFE. The Bible did!!

Regarding those that rely on God and his word (and reject astrology) for their guide
Daniel 1:20 And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

Isaiah 47:13 Thou art wearied in the multitude of thy counsels. Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee.

Remember... The devil can give you (worldly) blessings but there is ALWAYS a caveat that goes with it. It has something attached to it.... sorrow
Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.



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[Hypertiger]

"The only function of economic forecasting is to make astrology look respectable.” — John Kenneth Galbraith

[singular_me]

All things occult wise have some kinship :)

how many times does one have to stress that ONLY the intent defines evil. Intent to coerce/harm people is the strict bottom line. It is like buying a gun for self-defense or a bank robbery. It is not because the elites foment the enslavement of the masses that occult deserves a bad label. Occult merely means hidden after all. The elites have been using astrology, among other things, to lower our field of perception even further since eons... and that is extreme evil.

Saying "dont go there, satan is lurking" is like preaching against self-defense. Exactly what tptb want.

Many times in my life, I have defied my own astrological odds at my own expenses. There are indeed periods of time to either act, sit down, lay low, step back, abandoning what doesnt work, observe or design better strategies. And that is how astrology/numerology should be used, as enlightening tools, in the same way as the weather forecast can be a precious tool for farmers.

This is what I have learned over the years. But I have also witnessed that it doesnt really help most people because of a lack of awareness. Just like with shrinks who keep their patients in a state of dependence for profits.... hence the danger it may represent. The problem will always remain people's gullibility and self-denial.

[tater]

[QUOTE=singular_me;574148]
Saying "dont go there, satan is lurking" is like preaching against self-defense. Exactly what tptb want.
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Damnit, if this doesn't have that "ring" of truth to it...