Little hope for the future

[slowbell]

I think we're fucked, for the future.

I keep getting stuck with these new guys at work, young guys, who are weak, lethargic, pathetic, and have horrible work ethic. None of these new guys seem to understand the basic sense of work ethic. It's like they have been powder puffed their whole life and have no balls. It's hard to view them as men.

They are stuck, staring at their damn phones. I got sent on a job, at 3 pm yesterday. OK, it's a two person job, long job, but two competent guys can handle it.

I did the whole job myself. I worked from 3 pm yesterday, through the night, until 8 am this morning. That's a 17 hour shift, of hard physical labor.

They gave me a new guy, who did fuck all. His precious iphone broke, and he was worthless. Young guy, who told me when his phone broke "I don't know what to do". I sent him away, did the work myself.

These young guys, who should be our future, are worthless. I'm starting to honestly lose hope. No young guys can hack this job. They don't care about pulling their own weight, and I'm stuck working with these assholes, and getting sick and tired of them.

[Glass]

no fathers probably. Brought up by the state and the state lacks 2 things. Morals and a work ethic. You will be endowed with neither if the state raises you.

[milehi]

There's no problem letting someone know they need to go "sit in the truck". Probably saved yourself from an injury. Or worse.

[slowbell]

no fathers probably. Brought up by the state and the state lacks 2 things. Morals and a work ethic. You will be endowed with neither if the state raises you.

That could be part of it. I try to lead by example, but that doesn't work.

For the life of me, I can't motivate some of these guys to work. It's driving me crazy. I actually came close to getting into a fight with one guy. Funny how folks have the energy to fight, but not work.

[slowbell]

There's no problem letting someone know they need to go "sit in the truck". Probably saved yourself from an injury. Or worse.

I'm exhausted, milehi. I just don't understand why some guys don't jump into help sometimes.

[Mouse]

Aside from the complete useless idiot, you need to take a more practical role in teaching your stupid idiots about their job. In corporate speak it's called mentoring. You are always working, managing the hierarchy below you, teaching them the tricks, the skills, the trade. Teach them or they will be clueless, and then they will have nothing to teach. Take the biggest shit-head under your wing and teach him his trade. You will be rewarded.

If you teach them well, they will be loyal to you and perform well. If you refuse to invest in them, they will sit in the truck on their phones. I would suggest your first rule of work day engagement is "leave your phone in the truck and pay attention to what we are doing". Kids aren't taught anything anymore. ALL OF IT has to be learned on the job. And YOU are the teacher. If you are a good teacher you will have good jobs with those you have taught. I think there is a Rush song in here somewhere. Yep, there is.

Just a suggestion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MPQWQoPCXw

[Hypertiger]

They are hard wired...unless you "year zero" them...there is no way they will realize.

If you try to force people to wake up they will claim you are infringing on their human rights.

The system can only inflate to maximum potnetial and implode...that is why the population is being socially engineered into crap...so that when the time comes to flush the toilet.

the flushers will be able to accomplish the task with the least amount of regret...

[Mouse]

This thing is moving fast...holy cow.


Hyperinsertation


Also in regards to Rush: Lessons....the song is for the sheeple to believe whatever the hell they are told. The reality of the song is the authority slamming down on the independent thinker. "you didn't listen again". It's very subtle, but it's about the system quashing your freedom to think.

How do you educate your proteges in such an environment, to be both smart in their trade skills and stupid in truth? Dunno. TV might work.

7.62

[joboo]

Zombies walking around staring into their phones has become a global epidemic.

Personally I don't get it. I detest being tethered to a phone.

[Horn]

No incentive for investment, banks have the same issue.

I guess you could tempt them with retirement under a broke S.S. system, or 0 sum raided pension plan... ?

A beer if the job is finished before time will probably get better results.

"Little" hope is a good thing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJGQHCC62b0&feature=related

[slowbell]

Aside from the complete useless idiot, you need to take a more practical role in teaching your stupid idiots about their job. In corporate speak it's called mentoring. You are always working, managing the hierarchy below you, teaching them the tricks, the skills, the trade. Teach them or they will be clueless, and then they will have nothing to teach. Take the biggest shit-head under your wing and teach him his trade. You will be rewarded.

If you teach them well, they will be loyal to you and perform well. If you refuse to invest in them, they will sit in the truck on their phones. I would suggest your first rule of work day engagement is "leave your phone in the truck and pay attention to what we are doing". Kids aren't taught anything anymore. ALL OF IT has to be learned on the job. And YOU are the teacher. If you are a good teacher you will have good jobs with those you have taught. I think there is a Rush song in here somewhere. Yep, there is.

Just a suggestion.

Hey Mouse...thanks a lot. After getting a good night's rest, reading your advise again is really sinking in.

I suppose I have to accept the fact that I'm one of the experienced guys now. We see a lot of guys go through this job, maybe 10% stick around. The work is not for everyone. I've been doing the 'lead by example' approach, which is how I learned. You see the experienced guy working, you jump in to help, even if you don't know what you are doing. You both work together, under the experienced guy's leadership. You learn, get the job done.

What I was venting about, is a lot of young guys, early twenties...don't try to help. I guess I need to take a more direct approach to teaching them.

It's been a very rough few days at work, and I've been particularly grumpy and on edge.

Thanks for the advise, folks. Very helpful.

[Shami-Amourae]

I think we're fucked, for the future.

I keep getting stuck with these new guys at work, young guys, who are weak, lethargic, pathetic, and have horrible work ethic. None of these new guys seem to understand the basic sense of work ethic. It's like they have been powder puffed their whole life and have no balls. It's hard to view them as men.

They are stuck, staring at their damn phones. I got sent on a job, at 3 pm yesterday. OK, it's a two person job, long job, but two competent guys can handle it.

I did the whole job myself. I worked from 3 pm yesterday, through the night, until 8 am this morning. That's a 17 hour shift, of hard physical labor.

They gave me a new guy, who did fuck all. His precious iphone broke, and he was worthless. Young guy, who told me when his phone broke "I don't know what to do". I sent him away, did the work myself.

These young guys, who should be our future, are worthless. I'm starting to honestly lose hope. No young guys can hack this job. They don't care about pulling their own weight, and I'm stuck working with these assholes, and getting sick and tired of them.

I'm young. I work almost 14 hours everyday on my business. I agree with your words though since when I worked for companies before my business I was the only employee who ended up doing anything. I would always get promoted very quickly at whatever job I did, it was like there was no competition.

I'm a tech nerd but I don't even carry a smart phone. I think they are stupid, and I don't even know how they work. I have a cheap, unregistered Tracfone I bought anonymously. If I need a portable computer, I use a laptop.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

I'm on the other end of the spectrum, slowbell. I'm young, I work hard, and I can't find a mentor to save my life. I've tried searching at colleges (learned silversmithing) academia (learned history) and the work environment (learned professional IT). I've even tried learning from random people (learned that people who have 300 acres need help clearing timber). But to save my life I cannot find a mentor who can actually teach me how to navigate our true world, the one where TPTB exist. I can't figure out how to live a life and insulate myself from the dangers of TPTB. All my elders simply tell me to "play the game, and you'll get ahead." But I know what's waiting at the end of that game.

I'm stuck. I'm stuck and I have no where to go. I'm working a corporate job, have savings and absolutely zero debt, and I need a change. But I don't see one I can engineer....I've learned a lot of trades, but none of them inspire me to make my living through them.


P.S. I'm with you, Shami. I do IT for a living, and I do not carry a cell phone. Either I'm on a job and unavailable, or I'm reachable through a number of landlines/email.

[freespirit]

slowbell, when you get sent out with a rookie, YOU are the lead man on the job. don't be afraid to crack the whip. set the fences early, and be very clear about what you expect from them. sometimes you have to give them a mental kick in the slats to motivate them. in the end you will either have a good helper or you will find out quick that the one you got is useless...lol

[chad]

if i could teach 23 year old computer whiz-kids to:

a) shower daily
b) show at work on time, preferably prior to 10 am
c) wear appropriate clothing, ie not dirty jeans and walmart t-shirts
d) do computer work until it is done, not randomly switch from work to facebook to some online gaming site 40 times a day
e) eat appropriately at work, ie no wandering around with orange dorrito hands
f) look at people in the eye and speak to them, not look at the floor an mumble

i could churn out little millionaires all day long.

[Dogman]

if i could teach 23 year old computer whiz-kids to:

a) shower daily
b) show at work on time, preferably prior to 10 am
c) wear appropriate clothing, ie not dirty jeans and walmart t-shirts
d) do computer work until it is done, not randomly switch from work to facebook to some online gaming site 40 times a day
e) eat appropriately at work, ie no wandering around with orange dorrito hands
f) look at people in the eye and speak to them, not look at the floor an mumble

i could churn out little millionaires all day long.

Have seen some that have zero work ethic and then some are expecting to be the ceo next week!
And start complaining that they are not being payed what they are "Worth"!

[slowbell]

I'm on the other end of the spectrum, slowbell. I'm young, I work hard, and I can't find a mentor to save my life. I've tried searching at colleges (learned silversmithing) academia (learned history) and the work environment (learned professional IT). I've even tried learning from random people (learned that people who have 300 acres need help clearing timber). But to save my life I cannot find a mentor who can actually teach me how to navigate our true world, the one where TPTB exist. I can't figure out how to live a life and insulate myself from the dangers of TPTB. All my elders simply tell me to "play the game, and you'll get ahead." But I know what's waiting at the end of that game.

I'm stuck. I'm stuck and I have no where to go. I'm working a corporate job, have savings and absolutely zero debt, and I need a change. But I don't see one I can engineer....I've learned a lot of trades, but none of them inspire me to make my living through them.


P.S. I'm with you, Shami. I do IT for a living, and I do not carry a cell phone. Either I'm on a job and unavailable, or I'm reachable through a number of landlines/email.

NE, I've been there. I'm still young enough to learn and agree with your point on the elders...if anything, I listen to the elders on this site, who are aware.

I used to work IT too. At one point in my life, I asked myself "why am I doing this?" Stuck at a desk, not making any difference in the world. The best decision I made at that point, was actually to join a fire department. Once I joined that dept, life took off like a freight train. Running calls, jumping on the engine, my life then became one of action. I never knew action before that, was stuck behind a desk, but my mind was clear and open, absorbing it all in. I'd work my IT job, cushy, comfortable. Then rush to the firehouse, run a 12 hour shift, 6 pm to 6 am, shower, shave then go back to the desk job. I changed into my fire gear often at work.

But, I learned how to take action that way. I think these young guys, sitting around playing video games at home all day, don't have that concept yet. I know, I was there one point in my life.

I think the biggest way to figure life out, is a balance. Be happy where you are at in life, but have your sites set on the future too. Jump right in, and make a change if you have to. It's a great feeling.

Freespirit, you are right, I need to crack the whip a little with these new guys. Get them moving if I need to. I'll do that. This thread has been a big help to me.

[hoarder]

Television has introduced the younger generation to a world completely devoid of work ethic. Isn't it obvious that the decline of our work ethic corresponds directly with the proliferation of teevees?

[k-os]

if i could teach 23 year old computer whiz-kids to:

a) shower daily
b) show at work on time, preferably prior to 10 am
c) wear appropriate clothing, ie not dirty jeans and walmart t-shirts
d) do computer work until it is done, not randomly switch from work to facebook to some online gaming site 40 times a day
e) eat appropriately at work, ie no wandering around with orange dorrito hands
f) look at people in the eye and speak to them, not look at the floor an mumble

i could churn out little millionaires all day long.

This is hilarious!

I am older, and I became interested in computers when I was about 18, so I developed social skills in my younger years. But what was hard for me to accept was that I didn't "fit in" to some major gaming companies because I am female, and well-groomed. All of the existing employees were unkempt hobbit looking dudes who stared at the floor and mumbled when you addressed them directly.

Major software and gaming companies love these guys that (presumably) have no social life, because they will work longer hours. Granted, they won't be millionaires, but they will be able to get sweet/fun jobs at EA, as long as they produce something.

[Mouse]

Solid - thanks I am glad I finally did something useful here :)

When I talk about managing the hierarchy, it is unfortunate, but like the "system", knowledge is hierarchical. Those higher up in the food chain in "know-how" have a responsibility to those coming up to teach them their chops. It benefits everyone (and ultimately the food-based hierarchical make-work system that you MORANS place in trust of your cherished delusions). I didn't mean my initial post to say "hey, manage the shit out of your human resources", but that seems to be what must happen once you are the guy in charge of getting the job done.

It's a twisted pretzel.

To Shami and NOE, your mentors are right here blasting their stupid opinions at you all day and all night. We don't have any clue either. I go with Mamboni's advise on most matters as he seems to be one of the wisest around here, but that's just my deflationary 2 peseto's. I am still quite young and dumb, and still full of.......

edit to add: One of the greatest achievements of my career was watching a kid over 12 years. He was my intern when he was in college and I was a fresh duckie with only a few years experience. I taught him everything I could. He became one of my best managers and could be trusted with anything. I worked with him for about 6 or 7 years. I keep in touch with him and he has surpassed me in knowledge and success. I like to think I had a little something to do with it. Otherwise I would be pissed at him for bettering me :)

[Libertytree]

NE, I've been there. I'm still young enough to learn and agree with your point on the elders...if anything, I listen to the elders on this site, who are aware.

I used to work IT too. At one point in my life, I asked myself "why am I doing this?" Stuck at a desk, not making any difference in the world. The best decision I made at that point, was actually to join a fire department. Once I joined that dept, life took off like a freight train. Running calls, jumping on the engine, my life then became one of action. I never knew action before that, was stuck behind a desk, but my mind was clear and open, absorbing it all in. I'd work my IT job, cushy, comfortable. Then rush to the firehouse, run a 12 hour shift, 6 pm to 6 am, shower, shave then go back to the desk job. I changed into my fire gear often at work.

But, I learned how to take action that way. I think these young guys, sitting around playing video games at home all day, don't have that concept yet. I know, I was there one point in my life.

I think the biggest way to figure life out, is a balance. Be happy where you are at in life, but have your sites set on the future too. Jump right in, and make a change if you have to. It's a great feeling.

Freespirit, you are right, I need to crack the whip a little with these new guys. Get them moving if I need to. I'll do that. This thread has been a big help to me.

I don't think "cracking the whip" is the right track, though that is what needs to happen with out them knowing it! It's all how you delegate your superior knowledge and your authority ie "delegation of authority". Several years ago I had a mgmt job in a big liquor/wine store, most of the dudes were younger but some were around my age or just a tad older. All those guys worked their tail off for me but my boss the official Mgr always had probs with them, the truth was his "style" of managing people sucked. His style was hard ass all the way, mine was easy going but I still laid out the rules, the job/work and told them we're working "together" and that they were not working "for me". I let them know that the job would be a whole lot easier by both of us humpin our asses off and getting to beer:thirty that much sooner.

I always took extra time esp with new guys, I was friendly as hell but also laid out the ground rules for getting the task accomplished. Ask them questions about the nuances of the job your about to do, it'll help you gauge their knowledge base so that it can help you explain instructionaly whats gonna happen, how it's gonna happen and what his function's are. Your superior knowledge and time on the job will let him know you are the boss without ever saying so.

I know this is a brief description but it served me very well, not only in the wine/liquor biz but in other situations too, hope it helps.

[FreeEnergy]

I had just fired a 26 y.o. a couple of days ago. Actually he blew up on me, apparently, because he "was overworked" (I could do his day's work in about an hour). But, of course "he was a genius underpaid salesman" (= liked chatting on the phone all day). He also played computer games and was rescuing kittens on my time, came hour late each day, and often left early. And he , what looks like under the direction of his young gamer wifey tried to play me for more money. That's after (although I specifically tell myself never to do that for an employee) I pulled his sorry arse out of financial trouble, more than once. No wonder someone like that can't keep a job.


As far as future, above. IMHO small companies is where all the fun is. Corporate would suck life out of anyone (unless you are a daytrader hotshot or a googler). Small business is hard and there's usually lots of work , and if you don't pull your part you get fired. But if you do pull you'll learn , a lot. And don't expect work to be all fun and games, it is work ethics, and you need to learn to love the work itself, not the good parts. because there's always bad parts in every job that'll drag you down, but if you like to work, you'll eventually stop separating good from the bad and just do it.

[Libertytree]

I'm on the other end of the spectrum, slowbell. I'm young, I work hard, and I can't find a mentor to save my life. I've tried searching at colleges (learned silversmithing) academia (learned history) and the work environment (learned professional IT). I've even tried learning from random people (learned that people who have 300 acres need help clearing timber). But to save my life I cannot find a mentor who can actually teach me how to navigate our true world, the one where TPTB exist. I can't figure out how to live a life and insulate myself from the dangers of TPTB. All my elders simply tell me to "play the game, and you'll get ahead." But I know what's waiting at the end of that game.

I'm stuck. I'm stuck and I have no where to go. I'm working a corporate job, have savings and absolutely zero debt, and I need a change. But I don't see one I can engineer....I've learned a lot of trades, but none of them inspire me to make my living through them.


P.S. I'm with you, Shami. I do IT for a living, and I do not carry a cell phone. Either I'm on a job and unavailable, or I'm reachable through a number of landlines/email.

Question: What do YOU love to do? Still exploring/evaluating?

[freespirit]

when i'm on the job, i occasionally have need of temp help, and don't have time to hold their hands or stroke their egos. i need them to do what i tell them, and they need to be on their toes, paying attention, especially on the tools.

that not to say i don't treat them with respect, and FWIW, some guys respond better to a coarser approach, some you have to handle with kid gloves, but i'm pretty clear that if they like the work, and want to be used on other projects in the future, they better convince me i'm better off to hire them instead of the next guy.

if they cant do what needs doin, they are only costing me time and money, and there's a limited amount of both when contracting...

...but hey, that's just me.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

First of all, thanks for the kind words. I hope you all know that GiM/GSUS changed my life. When I was at a low point, feeling like a hopeless consumer, I found GiM, and it was the first time I had ever found other adults who felt as I did. So yes, I consider all of you friends, and some mentors. Just so you know.

But now, that low point is starting to seep back in...I've grown as much as I can "within the system..." I need to get land and get out... I need to work my own soil...But I don't want to go into debt to acquire this soil...It's a conundrum.


Question: What do YOU love to do? Still exploring/evaluating?

Ultimately I want to help people. This is ingrained into my personality. The more I study, the more I want to spread knowledge around. You guys know me pretty well. I'm the same in real life. I'm always the guy chirping in with more information. If someone brings up a subject, I try to bring in more info. It's always more info. I've been on the internet since the early 90's. This search for info is ingrained in my personality.

IRL I do martial arts and yoga as hobbies. Martial arts has eased my fear of violence and yoga has eased my bodily pain. I see fear and pain in others and I want to teach them what I know.

IRL I also make jewelry and orgonite. I make items and give them away for free. Everyone tells me I should sell them but I feel lucky just to be able to make something with my hands. I have self esteem issues where I would feel like a shyster charging money for something I made if it's not perfect. I can see all the flaws and all the ways it could be better and I just can't accept money for that. People tell me this is stupid and I recognize it. I'm working on fixing this aspect of myself - having the confidence to accept money for something.

It's the same when I try to teach people yoga or martial arts. People try to pay me, and I always say "This information should be free. Everybody in the world should know how to protect themselves and ease their bodily pain." But the reverse is not true. People always want me to give them money in order for them to teach me new things.


So I don't know what I want. That's the main problem man. I could walk any path and be successful. I could learn any skill, any trade, if I had a good teacher. My biggest problem is I don't know what my damn path is.




So in the meantime I just quietly train, and save. I learn new skills, I squirrel away money, I train my body (squatted 295 last thursday) and when the time comes, I know I'll have the courage to pull the trigger and walk a new path. My biggest concern is whether I'll have the eyes to recognize that the new path is presenting itself.


Most people know their path but are afraid to walk it.

I'm not afraid to walk the path, but I can't find it.

[mamboni]

I think we're fucked, for the future.

I keep getting stuck with these new guys at work, young guys, who are weak, lethargic, pathetic, and have horrible work ethic. None of these new guys seem to understand the basic sense of work ethic. It's like they have been powder puffed their whole life and have no balls. It's hard to view them as men.

They are stuck, staring at their damn phones. I got sent on a job, at 3 pm yesterday. OK, it's a two person job, long job, but two competent guys can handle it.

I did the whole job myself. I worked from 3 pm yesterday, through the night, until 8 am this morning. That's a 17 hour shift, of hard physical labor.

They gave me a new guy, who did fuck all. His precious iphone broke, and he was worthless. Young guy, who told me when his phone broke "I don't know what to do". I sent him away, did the work myself.

These young guys, who should be our future, are worthless. I'm starting to honestly lose hope. No young guys can hack this job. They don't care about pulling their own weight, and I'm stuck working with these assholes, and getting sick and tired of them.

Eloi - you're working with Eloi. It's amazing how H. G. Wells nailed the future of mankind over 80 years ago. Then again, he was a member of the Fabian society - he probably got to peak at the blueprints.

[EE_]

First of all, thanks for the kind words. I hope you all know that GiM/GSUS changed my life. When I was at a low point, feeling like a hopeless consumer, I found GiM, and it was the first time I had ever found other adults who felt as I did. So yes, I consider all of you friends, and some mentors. Just so you know.

But now, that low point is starting to seep back in...I've grown as much as I can "within the system..." I need to get land and get out... I need to work my own soil...But I don't want to go into debt to acquire this soil...It's a conundrum.



Ultimately I want to help people. This is ingrained into my personality. The more I study, the more I want to spread knowledge around. You guys know me pretty well. I'm the same in real life. I'm always the guy chirping in with more information. If someone brings up a subject, I try to bring in more info. It's always more info. I've been on the internet since the early 90's. This search for info is ingrained in my personality.

IRL I do martial arts and yoga as hobbies. Martial arts has eased my fear of violence and yoga has eased my bodily pain. I see fear and pain in others and I want to teach them what I know.

IRL I also make jewelry and orgonite. I make items and give them away for free. Everyone tells me I should sell them but I feel lucky just to be able to make something with my hands. I have self esteem issues where I would feel like a shyster charging money for something I made if it's not perfect. I can see all the flaws and all the ways it could be better and I just can't accept money for that. People tell me this is stupid and I recognize it. I'm working on fixing this aspect of myself - having the confidence to accept money for something.

It's the same when I try to teach people yoga or martial arts. People try to pay me, and I always say "This information should be free. Everybody in the world should know how to protect themselves and ease their bodily pain." But the reverse is not true. People always want me to give them money in order for them to teach me new things.


So I don't know what I want. That's the main problem man. I could walk any path and be successful. I could learn any skill, any trade, if I had a good teacher. My biggest problem is I don't know what my damn path is.





So in the meantime I just quietly train, and save. I learn new skills, I squirrel away money, I train my body (squatted 295 last thursday) and when the time comes, I know I'll have the courage to pull the trigger and walk a new path. My biggest concern is whether I'll have the eyes to recognize that the new path is presenting itself.



Most people know their path but are afraid to walk it. But not I. I banish fear. But I can't find the path. So I wander.

You are not alone.
I've been a searcher all my life...some would say a malcontent.
I have a need for 'new', new places, new faces.

I have known and still know many friends that are content to stay in one place all of their lives, doing the same things in the same surroundings. Financially and connection-wise, many are better off...but that's just not me.

I have moved a lot, and all of the places I have been were positive experiences. The only downside, is that you rarely make the kind of friends as your old and truest friends.

I am planning another move as I write. A place that things grow well and where I may be able to be more involved in community. I'm looking for a project home to grow and make my own again. I too, need to keep my hands busy.
One thing is for sure, there is no perfect place...at least until we leave this earth. It's all a trade off.
'New' keeps me going.

Have you thought about being involved in the art world?

[Horn]

Eloi - you're working with Eloi. It's amazing how H. G. Wells nailed the future of mankind over 80 years ago. Then again, he was a member of the Fabian society - he probably got to peak at the blueprints.

Are you suggesting that he invite him over for dinner?

[mamboni]

Are you suggesting that he invite him over for dinner?

Are we or we not invited for dinner?!?!?

[Horn]

Are we or we not invited for dinner?!?!?

Probably a pretty good gauge,

If he refuses a free lunch or beer, then eat him. :)

[singular_me]

little hope indeed.

I can't stand conversations with people who make fairytale-like long-term plans, think their business will pick up again at some point or claim to have ideas to cash in big, artists going to exposition thinking they will be noticed by a famous agent, etc... In short nothing enticing to make new friends.

90% of society is fvcked up.

edit: we have found new strengths in accepting daily challenges with a zen state of mind

[slowbell]

I am planning another move as I write. A place that things grow well and where I may be able to be more involved in community. I'm looking for a project home to grow and make my own again. I too, need to keep my hands busy.
One thing is for sure, there is no perfect place...at least until we leave this earth. It's all a trade off.
'New' keeps me going.

EE, great post. I too agree with everything you said, you too NE. I can relate completely. It's important, for folks like us, to make sure we've got the drive to embrace the changes we seek, and make them happen.

I just moved yesterday, got in at 8 am from an over night trip.

I can smell the ocean now, and am in a small town. I was greeted by sea lions and sea otters looking at me, coming into port, and an old friend standing by, to catch lines on the dock. No more big cities for me. I can already feel the relaxation that only comes from a small peaceful place, where life moves a bit slower. I love it.

[Horn]

I can already feel the relaxation that only comes from a small peaceful place, where life moves a bit slower. I love it.

Early retirement for you too, huh?

[EE_]

EE, great post. I too agree with everything you said, you too NE. I can relate completely. It's important, for folks like us, to make sure we've got the drive to embrace the changes we seek, and make them happen.

I just moved yesterday, got in at 8 am from an over night trip.

I can smell the ocean now, and am in a small town. I was greeted by sea lions and sea otters looking at me, coming into port, and an old friend standing by, to catch lines on the dock. No more big cities for me. I can already feel the relaxation that only comes from a small peaceful place, where life moves a bit slower. I love it.

Well, congrats my fine nomadic friend! Best of luck in your new surroundings!
May you find new peace and make nice new friends.

I'd like to hear more about it, maybe in chat tomorrow night.

[slowbell]

Well, congrats my fine nomadic friend! Best of luck in your new surroundings!
May you find new peace and make nice new friends.

I'd like to hear more about it, maybe in chat tomorrow night.

I met several of the neighbors, all nice folks. One, is a long term friend of mine, who's very aware. We've been catching up on a few laughs, and had a good convo bashing the gov and the banks. He hates the big banksters even more than me.

Now, my first night here. It's silent. Not a sound. I'm so used to noise around, it's like time stood still here.

[EE_]

I met several of the neighbors, all nice folks. One, is a long term friend of mine, who's very aware. We've been catching up on a few laughs, and had a good convo bashing the gov and the banks. He hates the big banksters even more than me.

Now, my first night here. It's silent. Not a sound. I'm so used to noise around, it's like time stood still here.

Sounds nice! You'll get used to the quiet.

[Glass]

I wonder how we are feeling now? It's been a short while.