UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco

[old steel]

UFO War: Chinese and US Navy off San Francisco 669 (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/#)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ScreenHunter_687-Sep.-17-16.23.jpghttp://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ScreenHunter_687-Sep.-17-16.23.jpg (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/screenhunter_687-sep-17-16-23/)Chinese Naval forces off California said to be on Joint UFO Suppression Mission

Joint Fleets Fend Off UFO Threat ——
by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/) ——

This last week, reports of Chinese naval vessels off the US coast, Northern Californian in particular, have been reported but denied.
Now an Asian intelligence agency reports that a combined fleet operation between the US and China has been going on, a full combat operation against what we are told is a “highly unfriendly extra-terrestrial threat.”
The verifications of the fleet operations have been many, there have been no confirmations from the US side though the ships have been seen by every vessel that makes it offshore. The true nature of both the threat and the extent of the multinational military force used is beyond any imaginable classification level.
Rumors:




Extraterrestrial craft are operating from underwater bases.
Advanced US sub-orbital weapons platforms represented as “tested” have actually been deployed from Vandenburg Air Force Base. These are armed with energy weapons.
UFO tracking has been moved from conventional to nano-technology with microscopic sensors being used to detect behaviors such as dimensional rifts and distortions in time, things only discussed in TV shows like Fringe and X Files. (all Fox oddly enough)

The actual classified memo on very short distribution mentions only the following:




Opposition is extraterrestrial and extremely aggressive and unfriendly
The threat represents a “clear and present danger” and is isolated to the Pacific Basin
China is forced to carry US responsibility because our own naval capability is sitting in the Persian Gulf when America is under a very real threat.
Attempts to seek confirmations or to directly verify these operations will lead to fatal consequences.


Our confirmations limit us to this response which I have chosen to represent in a highly deniable form out of personal interest. Others in the US have better information and sources and have been silenced with warnings only.
As to this being a total “hose job,” I don’t see any advantage in it.
For several months earlier this year, there had been disclosures tied to the UFO issue. One real sighting had been made over South Korea.
After than, the internet had been flooded, yes, Google’s “YouTube” with manufactured phony UFO videos, some of “beyond next generation” quality.
All information given on how UFO video or photos are analyzed is totally false, childishly so, especially that from the UFO “networks.” They are professionally “self discrediting.”
About 6 weeks ago, a “study group” was appointed out of NATO and another one in Asia to look at the pattern of UFO videos. A decision was made to aggressively investigate one or more groups.
Being aggressively investigated on such an issue is not recommended.
I would love to be more entertaining, invent things, speculate or, perhaps, include some fascinating videos.
I either have to give this a 70% or reclassify a reliable official source as purposefully leaking something that makes no sense. My suggestion is that readers follow other stories for verifications or information that would help in some way, add it to the comment section and see if we can get a better grip on what may well be an extremely dangerous situation.


http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/

[iOWNme]

Project Blue Beam is a Go!

[slvrbugjim]

Gordon Duff is in no way a reliable source of information, but he is entertaining

[old steel]

– American "Enemy’s List" to Sustain War Mode and Pentagon Budgets – According to the late Werner Von Braun







Soviet Union

Terrorists

Asteroids

Extraterrestrials

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZCb.htm

I was of the same opinion until we saw them a few weeks ago early on a Sunday morning in the southwest skies in our area.

There is indeed a war going on above us in the skies unbeknown to almost everyone on the planet i made a thread regarding the events we witnessed you can look it up.

[Down1]

I find it hard to believe there would be this grand battle, but yet no Russian involvement.

[mick silver]

great a new war to fight . just when we thought we had a enough wars going on we start one more .

[Glass]

– American "Enemy’s List" to Sustain War Mode and Pentagon Budgets – According to the late Werner Von Braun






Soviet Union
Terrorists
Asteroids
Extraterrestrials

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/exopolitica/esp_exopolitics_ZCb.htm

I was of the same opinion until we saw them a few weeks ago early on a Sunday morning in the southwest skies in our area.

There is indeed a war going on above us in the skies unbeknown to almost everyone on the planet i made a thread regarding the events we witnessed you can look it up.






i think this lady looks familiar. Maybe she is part of project camelot?

[JDRock]

excuse me, but is that a fvking pagoda on the front of the largest ship? bwaaahaaaa " ill take a # 4 with extra egg roll"

[Glass]

excuse me, but is that a fvking pagoda on the front of the largest ship? bwaaahaaaa " ill take a # 4 with extra egg roll"

It's actually a hot tub and jacuzzi with pool side bar.

[PatColo]

Duff 2nd hour Rense radio last night, I haven't listened. Sould be ~42 mins comm free.

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5jyh5ks5fw/rense.20120926.2of3.mp3) Download (http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5jyh5ks5fw/rense.20120926.2of3.mp3) Hour 2 - Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/) - US And China And UFOs?

[chad]

with all due respect, who is this gordon duff guy? i listened to the whole thing, he didn't even talk about the navy & ufo angle, even though that was the purpose of the whole hour. he laughed about it for like 15 seconds and implied it was to get attention. then he spent the whole hour talking about how he works for the "post office" sees reverse engineered alien ships, sometimes they let him talk, rambled on about aliens, etc. i don't get it.

[PatColo]

^ I since listened to that Rense/Duff hour. I just think Duff is more comic relief now than ever- somewhere here u can find where I wrote a couple paragraphs on my impression of Duff. He's still a frequent guest on (fellow VT writer) Kevin Barrett's show, in which case I don't listen to the hour. I give better than even odds to the probability that Duff is some sort of disinformation-ist. He earned some cred early on as a critic of izzy:
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/07/17/911-and-israel-alan-sabroskys-shocking-press-tv-interview
but since he's just gone off the rails;
http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff

What is striking is what a true believing UFO-logist Rense is- his Fri night shows are 3 hours of UFO guests, and they're also peppered around his mid-week shows as well.

[chad]

one thing i've noticed lately about jeff (and it makes me sad) is that i think his show must be dying. LOTS of the "interviews" are him just talking for an hour with one of the sponsors. the turtle tough guy, a food storage guy, etc.

he has always had monthly interviews with the be prepared guy, but now since charlie mcgrath is on the network, he has charlie's buyemergencyfoodsnow.com people on there. he just changes the show questions for which one he is "interviewing." some of his hours are not real interviews anymore, they're just a big log 1-hour ad.

[PatColo]

Mami's shit blog (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/) posts all of Rense's shows, in separate hour comm-free MP3s (making them ~42 mins). I prolly d/l a couple hours a week; that's out of 15 hours available. Most of the guests/topics just don't interest me. I lost interest in Duff awhile back, after enduring a few rambling hours of him, mostly on KBarrett's show. Duff is also frequent guest on (Iran's) Press TV.

[chad]

Mami's shit blog (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/) posts all of Rense's shows, in separate hour comm-free MP3s (making them ~42 mins). I prolly d/l a couple hours a week; that's out of 15 hours available. Most of the guests/topics just don't interest me. I lost interest in Duff awhile back, after enduring a few rambling hours of him, mostly on KBarrett's show. Duff is also frequent guest on (Iran's) Press TV.

just checked out mami's shit, never heard of it before, thx! i like it already, it makes fun of stadtmiller in the first post! :D

[PatColo]

^ u need to pay closer attention! ;D

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60988-great-truth-radio-podcast-blog-no-commercials!

[PatColo]

this may have been posted hereabouts b4, if so- sorry!

Gordon Duff of Veterans Today Admits To Writing 40% False Information (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/11/gordon-duff-of-veterans-today-admits-to.html)

It's a clip from a GD appearance as guest on Mike Harris' radio show, where among other things, he claims 40% of what he publishes is false- but he must do this to stay alive! Thing is, I watched this on Friday, however I just checked again, and YT says it's been removed due to copyright violation claim from Mike Harris! But I can vouch that it was there.

So GD was 2nd hour guest on KBarrett's T.J. Radio show on Fri 11/9. They get right into the "40% Disinfo" bit. GD claims the recording was "spliced together", & fraudulent. Also claimed it was created & spread by Frederick Toben- German holohoax denier (& OZ resident- they just bankrupted him through their courts, for "hate speech" or some such).

MP3 link, jump to top of 2nd hour:
http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/archive/Truth-Jihad-32k-110912.mp3

KBarrett's blog entry:
http://truthjihadradio.blogspot.com/2012/11/zero-percent-bs-with-stephen-lendman.html

[PatColo]

^ Duffy's denial of having made the "40% disinfo" claim is debunked here,

http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/10/short-end-of-stick-with-mike-harris_12.html

jump to 1:10:40 to hear him make the statement.

Also here's a comm-free version of the KB show above, wherein Duffy makes the denial,
http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/11/truth-jihad-radio-with-kevin-barrett.html

[zap]

No No NO, they are not in Frisco, they are here.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/08/ufos-on-india-china-border_n_2093003.html

Over the past few months -- between Aug. 1 and Oct. 15 -- more than 100 UFOs have been seen along the India-China border, and the sightings have officials puzzled.
The Times of India (http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-11-06/india/34948052_1_ufos-china-border-itbp) reported this week that "yellowish spheres appear to lift off from the horizon on the Chinese side and slowly traverse the sky for three to five hours before disappearing."
The Times of India added that the UFO sightings have stumped numerous Indian military groups, including their air force, NTRO technical intelligence agency and the Indo-Tibetan Border Police (as seen below).
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/854472/thumbs/o-INDIACHINAUFO-570.jpg?3
Army officials in charge of the 2,100-mile border between the giant Asian countries have reportedly ruled out Chinese drones or low-orbit satellites, according to the Los Angeles Times (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/06/world/la-fg-india-china-ufos-20121107).
Members of the Indian ITBP sent reports to their Delhi headquarters, describing the spheres as Unidentified Luminous Objects, or ULOs, whether they're seen during the day or night.
After examining hazy photographs of the ULOs taken by the ITBP, army officials ruled out unmanned aerial vehicles, reports India Today (http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/unidentified-flying-objects-ufo-seen-in-ladakh-jammu-and-kashmir-by-indian-army-itbp/1/227372.html).
In September, the Indian army brought a mobile ground-based radar unit and spectrum analyser to the top of a mountain near Pangong Lake between India and China.
According to India Today, while one of the ULO's was spotted visually, it wasn't picked up on the radar, which indicated it was non-metallic.
Also in September, a team of astronomers from the Indian Astronomical Observatory at Hanle observed the ULOs for several days. While they couldn't figure out exactly what the objects were, they ruled out meteors and planets.
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/850868/thumbs/o-CHINESELANTERNS-570.jpg?4
Two years ago, the Indian air force looked into UFO sightings, eventually explaining them as Chinese lanterns (see example of some Chinese lanterns above).
And there have been other reports of luminous objects reportedly seen on the Chinese side of the border, India Today (http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/unidentified-flying-objects-ufo-seen-in-ladakh-jammu-and-kashmir-by-indian-army-itbp/1/227372.html) reported.
Even though scientists aren't sure what these ULOs are, they're not ready to consider them visitors from another planet.
"There is no evidence of the UFOs being of extraterrestrial origin," India Today quotes astrophysicist Jayant Narlikar. "The implication of them being alien objects is fancy, not fact."

[PatColo]

they're in denver- worth a watch, this made its way onto the TEEEVEEE NOOZ!!
Incredible UFOs Land and Launch Over Denver 2012 HQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AEQgEFqE40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AEQgEFqE40

[PatColo]

more on 40% Disinfo Duff-

Jan 22 Rense radio appearance where they discuss "ADL run nazi sites", and Duff makes allegations about israelis arrested after S.Hook, which I have not propagated anywhere coz GD's "source" is GD's seeekrit contacts, again... becoming a regular Sorcha Faal:

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ail5isv335/rense.20130122.2of3.mp3) Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/ail5isv335/rense.20130122.2of3.mp3) Hour 2 - Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/) - Editor-in-Chief, Veterans Today


Saturday, January 26, 2013
Saturday Afternoon with Carolyn Yeager Jan 26, 2013 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/01/saturday-afternoon-with-carolyn-yeager_26.html)


Interview with Mike Delaney of Prothink (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2013/01/26/interview-with-mike-delaney-of-prothink/)


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Mike Delaney (http://www.prothink.org/) of Prothink.org and Missing Links, the Movie (http://www.911missinglinks.com/) is Carolyn’s guest to discuss his websites and the recent claim (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/22/adl-owns-www-ratfacedjews-com/) by Gordon Duff that two of them [Ratfaced Jews (http://www.ratfacedjews.com/) and Jewish Problem (http://www.jewishproblem.com/)] are funded by Abe Foxman’s Anti-Defamation League and “managed” by ADL workers and volunteers. Since everyone knows this isn’t true, the Jewish Duff was caught with his pants down and his habit of bald-faced lying fully revealed. Also other topics of discussion.

Show-page (http://thewhitenetwork.com/2013/01/26/interview-with-mike-delaney-of-prothink/)

www.prothink.org (http://www.prothink.org/)

Auschwitz: The Underground Guided Tour by Carolyn Yeager (http://www.barnesreview.org/holocaust-holocaust-other-c-80_79_46.html)



Download MP3 (http://thewhitenetwork.com/data/audio/tWn_Saturday_Afternoon_with_Carolyn_Yeager_2013012 6.mp3)

[Glass]

more on 40% Disinfo Duff-

Jan 22 Rense radio appearance where they discuss "ADL run nazi sites", and Duff makes allegations about israelis arrested after S.Hook, which I have not propagated anywhere coz GD's "source" is GD's seeekrit contacts, again... becoming a regular Sorcha Faal:


Which is the bit about the UFO wars?

[gunDriller]

UFO's are useful - for advancing the agenda of the War Toy Boyz.

they want to spend many $Billions to fight an adversary who's anywhere from 100 to 1 Million to ? years more advanced than human beings ?

what are we going to do, throw iPhones at the UFO's ? distract them with the Super Bowl halftime show ?

[gunDriller]

UFO's are useful - for advancing the agenda of the War Toy Boyz.

they want to spend many $Billions to fight an adversary who's anywhere from 100 to 1 Million to ? years more advanced than human beings ?

what are we going to do, throw iPhones at the UFO's ? distract them with the Super Bowl halftime show ?

[Glass]

what are we going to do, throw iPhones at the UFO's ? distract them with the Super Bowl halftime show ?

No silly, We can fly the UFO's with our iPhones!

[PatColo]

Gordon "40% Disinfo" Duff on Rense last night, description touts UFO talk, but I've just started listening. 45 mins comm free:

Jeff Rense Radio Show - 2013.03.26 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2013/03/jeff-rense-radio-show-20130326.html)

http://www.rense.com/1.mpicons/thinlogo2color.gif (http://www.rense.com/)

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/3mlhhvh1cb/rense.20130326.1of3.mp3) Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/3mlhhvh1cb/rense.20130326.1of3.mp3) Hour 1 - Jeffery Smith (http://seedsofdeception.com/) - GMO Wars - How To Fight GMOs & Eat Healthier! (http://responsibletechnology.org/)

Listen (http://www.talkshoe.com/resources/talkshoe/images/swf/lastEpisodePlayer.swf?fileUrl=http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/22xloj68xx/rense.20130326.2of3.mp3) Download (http://k007.kiwi6.com/hotlink/22xloj68xx/rense.20130326.2of3.mp3) Hour 2 - Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/) - UFO-ET Disclosure

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Frosty W. ^ is like another Devvy Kid (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?33073-zio-shill-Devvy-Kidd-Scary-Moozlemism-A-cancer-oozing-across-America) WRT misdirecting scrutiny to the SYMPTOMS (immigrants) rather than the ROOT CAUSE (djooz). I never listen to him.

[PatColo]

From Duffy but the YT is former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer, who also co-produced the "Money As Debt" trilogy.


Sunday, May 12th, 2013 | Posted by Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/)
Paul Hellyer, Disclosure (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/12/paul-hellyer-disclosure/)


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Paul Hellyer

Former Canadian Defense Minister Speaks to Those With Ears to Hear


By Gordon Duff (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/gordonduff/), Senior Editor


For my own reasons, I have been tasked, as it were, with participation in “disclosure” efforts. I can speak with some familiarity on the issues former Canadian Defense Minister, Paul Hellyer addresses.



What he says is true. He also withholds more than “one or two things,” as he mentions. You won’t see me write them here either, where Hellyer takes us all is enough for now.



How can this be said? My outlook is a simple one, with so few onboard with reality, why send those ready to accept disclosure down a “rabbit hole” with a deluge of very dark revelations.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3doMYpTc0E&feature=player_embedded#!
YouTube - Veterans Today -

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3doMYpTc0E&feature=player_embedded#%21)

We should thank Hellyer for his honor and reason. More than a few will note where Hellyer turns away. I may well be able to provide some of the “why” that he has not covered.


Why would man turn on his own, as Hellyer so eloquently and truthfully espouses?


Who do our masters serve?

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/12/paul-hellyer-disclosure/


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2 Living ETs Working with US Government
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Published on May 5, 2013
Paul Hellyer, former Minister of Defense of Canada reveals: the secrecy behind the ET presence on Earth and plenty more

[PatColo]

from 40%-Disinfo-Duff, reposted @ pressTV,


Secret technology pushing US into military adventures (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/21/325139/secret-tech-fueling-us-militarism/)

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20130921/namvar20130921050048237.jpg
The file photo shows a child survivor of the US atomic bombardment of the Japanese city of Hiroshima on August 6, 1945.

Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:6AM GMT



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By Gordon Duff



The development of military technology, beginning with the Strategic Defense Initiative of the Reagan presidency, has given the US capabilities that have remained “dark,” not just secret but “deniable” as well.



The US can simulate any intelligence source, any terror attack, small or large, or even influence public opinion, push groups to follow insane ideas or drive individuals to acts of unspeakable horror.

The best part of this, for America’s political leaders at least, is that they aren’t officially informed. Key congressional leaders like McCain or former Senator Kerry know all of it, know but aren’t talking.

They were the proponents that pushed these technologies, some costing tens of billions of “black budget” dollars, to fruition.

Now that America has these things, they now want to use them and what better place to test non-existent technology than Syria?


more: http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/09/21/325139/secret-tech-fueling-us-militarism/

[mick silver]

but in time the one's telling them what to do will fine away to remove them .............The best part of this, for America’s political leaders at least, is that they aren’t officially informed. Key congressional leaders like McCain or former Senator Kerry know all of it, know but aren’t talking.