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Down1
23rd September 2012, 04:58 PM
One of the biggest changes is the ability to track your physical location. I'm sorry I came in at the end of the previous talk. I heard them talk about surveying cell phones with a drone, in a wide area -- this is something that is done routinely now. [Note: Is that what these microwave antennas were used for at Occupy Wall Street in mid September?] I can tell you that everybody that attended an Occupy Wall Street protest, and didn't turn their cell phone off, or put it -- and sometimes even if they did -- the identity of that cell phone has been logged, and everybody who was at that demonstration, whether they were arrested, not arrested, whether their photos were ID'd, whether an informant pointed them out, it's known they were there anyway. This is routine.
http://privacysos.org/node/825


http://privacysos.org/node/825

mamboni
23rd September 2012, 05:01 PM
Does anyone make a pouch or box that blocks the cell phone signal? Is it true that even when powered down the phone can tracked?

slowbell
23rd September 2012, 05:05 PM
Does anyone make a pouch or box that blocks the cell phone signal? Is it true that even when powered down the phone can tracked?

You have to remove the battery from the phone. .Gov can remotely activate the phone, even when powered off...and listen to any conversations on that phone, as well as track the exact location of the phone. Big brother. The cell phone, the ultimate tracking tool for TPTB.

MNeagle
23rd September 2012, 05:16 PM
& you get to pay for this luxury!! Is this a great country or what??

gunDriller
23rd September 2012, 05:19 PM
wrapped in a few layers of aluminum foil - that does the trick.

an Altoids tin is another example of quickie EMI shielding.


sort of a play on the metaphor of "tinfoil" re. conspiracy theory - i guess the concept is that people are supposed to wear a tinfoil hat so the government can't read their thoughts ?

well, just give the cell-phone a 'tin foil hat'/ wrapper.

chad
23rd September 2012, 05:31 PM
how do they know you were attending ows as opposed to just going in to the bank or sub shop on the block? how was this beam "i know hat you were doing" specific?

undgrd
23rd September 2012, 05:49 PM
how do they know you were attending ows as opposed to just going in to the bank or sub shop on the block? how was this beam "i know hat you were doing" specific?

I imagine they use your signal like a heartbeat. After enough hearbeats within a location, they assume you're there to protest.

Down1
23rd September 2012, 05:49 PM
how do they know you were attending ows as opposed to just going in to the bank or sub shop on the block? how was this beam "i know hat you were doing" specific?
That's an issue chad.
They don't know, but you are lumped into the group anyway.

TheNocturnalEgyptian
23rd September 2012, 10:23 PM
Years ago, I told co-workers (in the IT field, no less) that it would become common to remotely activate microphone and video on cell phones for intelligence purposes, and that they would be used as tracking and identification devices.

Nobody here ever denied that, but to all the people at work who called me crazy,

I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO

willie pete
23rd September 2012, 10:54 PM
Does anyone make a pouch or box that blocks the cell phone signal? Is it true that even when powered down the phone can tracked?

as mentioned, either wrap it in tinfoil or fashion sometype of tinfoil pouch, do this right now; wrap your phone in tinfoil and then call it, the signal won't get through, I'm also thinking it'll block any tracking also, otherwise remove the battery, a phone-store clerk told me one time the police had software that allowed them to track a cell phone, he said removing the battery killed it, I'd think removing the battery and wrapping it in TF would completely shield it...

Mouse
24th September 2012, 12:34 AM
leave it at home$

Shami-Amourae
24th September 2012, 01:55 AM
Years ago, I told co-workers (in the IT field, no less) that it would become common to remotely activate microphone and video on cell phones for intelligence purposes, and that they would be used as tracking and identification devices.

Nobody here ever denied that, but to all the people at work who called me crazy,

I FUCKING TOLD YOU SO

This is exactly why I use cheap, unregistered Tracfones. Always buy them in cash.

madfranks
24th September 2012, 11:04 AM
how do they know you were attending ows as opposed to just going in to the bank or sub shop on the block? how was this beam "i know hat you were doing" specific?

You are guilty until you can prove your innocence.