Isreli lobbyist announces "we need a false flag to get Iran rolling"

[Large Sarge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfoaLbbAix0

[undgrd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfoaLbbAix0


F that guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfoaLbbAix0

[JohnQPublic]

"...I'm not advocating that...".

Yea, right.

[MAGNES]

.

SIBEL EDMONDS, Resurrecting the Neocons (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63684-SIBEL-EDMONDS-Resurrecting-the-Neocons)


Seems they becoming more and more blatant, where is DHS and why are they
not being investigated and jailed for advocating/promoting terrorism.
Some links above, builders of the Police State, they ain't even hiding like 10 years ago.


Steele didn't even know how right he was, 2002 .

It's the Jews, Stupid!!! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62745-It-s-the-Jews-Stupid%21%21%21)

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Who benefits? I think we all know the answer.

[k-os]

What . . . the . . . hell did I just watch? I am astonished by his flippant nature of what he is "not advocating". Yeah right.

"Submarines go down, maybe one of them doesn't come up." he shrugs and people chuckle. It's disgusting.

On the bright side, the top comment is a good sign:


False-flag from a false nation.
IAmDeepSpace (http://www.youtube.com/user/IAmDeepSpace) 2 hours ago (22 up votes) http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/pixel-vfl3z5WfW.gif


Out of 301 views, I find that comforting. I'd give an up vote too, but you gotta log in to do that.

[singular_me]

funny and dramatic at once, while he does speak of the need of strategy to force Iran to attack first, he previously mentions all the false flags over the last century.

[General of Darkness]

Am I living in the fucking Twilight Zone? These fucking assholes are saying this OUT IN THE FUCKING OPEN and like Magnes posted, where the fuck is the DHS? Oh shit, I forgot, it's all run by the zionist.

[joboo]

Sounds like some jackass discussing a new formula for Brawndo.


http://i48.tinypic.com/161m789.gif (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1031574016/tt0387808)

[JohnQPublic]

Patrick Clawson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Clawson) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Patrick Lyell Clawson (born 1951-03-30[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Clawson#cite_note-who-0)) is an American economist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economist) and Middle East scholar. He is currently the Director for Research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy) and senior editor of Middle East Quarterly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Quarterly).


Born in Alexandria, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria,_Virginia), Clawson graduated with a B.A. from Oberlin College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberlin_College) in 1973 and earned a Ph.D. from The New School for Social Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_School) in 1978. He taught at Seton Hall University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seton_Hall_University) from 1979–1981 and served as an economist for the International Monetary Fund (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund) from 1981 until 1985, when he took a position as a senior economist with the World Bank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank).

[vacuum]

We're starting to get to that surreal stage where the upper 20% of society can plainly see Israel's blatant criminal behavior (which of course implies murder, terrorism, and massive theft), and yet the show goes on for the 80%. This is the point at which a sociopath is the most dangerous - they know that you know what they really are, but they still possess (dwindling) control of the situation.

[gunDriller]

funny and dramatic at once, while he does speak of the need of strategy to force Iran to attack first, he previously mentions all the false flags over the last century.

pretty thorough list.

it seemed like a good history reference - a Zionist listing previous false flags while advocating another false flag with 'a wink and a nod'.


in the past, in other countries, people who speak like him would be considered insane - and/or dangerous.

[mamboni]

[Gullible] Christians will forever forgive Jews for swindling them, betraying them, even killing them. The former are addled by the twin ailments of guilt over the holocaust [hoax] and fervent belief in the Christian directive to "turn the other cheek." Christians, so full of love in their hearts, just refuse to believe that the Jews despise them, hold them in utter contempt and see them purely as objects of exploitation. Someday I hope, some shock will come along, like a skinbracer slap to the face, and snap these passive drone-like Christians out of their self-imposed slavery.

[LuckyStrike]

Patrick Clawson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Clawson)

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Patrick Lyell Clawson (born 1951-03-30[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Clawson#cite_note-who-0)) is an American economist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economist) and Middle East scholar. He is currently the Director for Research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy) and senior editor of Middle East Quarterly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Quarterly).


Born in Alexandria, Virginia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandria,_Virginia), Clawson graduated with a B.A. from Oberlin College (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberlin_College) in 1973 and earned a Ph.D. from The New School for Social Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_School) in 1978. He taught at Seton Hall University (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seton_Hall_University) from 1979–1981 and served as an economist for the International Monetary Fund (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Monetary_Fund) from 1981 until 1985, when he took a position as a senior economist with the World Bank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Bank).

Digging a bit deeper.....

The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP) is a think tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_tank) based in Washington, D.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.) focused on United States foreign policy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_United_States) in the Middle East. Established in 1985,[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-0) the institute's mission statement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement) states that it seeks "to advance a balanced and realistic understanding of American interests in the Middle East."[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-mission_statement-1) The group is often described as being pro-Israel.[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-2)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-3)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-4)


Martin Indyk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Indyk), an Australian-trained academic and former deputy director of research for the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee) (AIPAC), helped found WINEP in 1985.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-5) In 1982, following his position as Australian deputy director of current intelligence in the Middle East, Indyk started to set up a research department for AIPAC.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-6) Because of his affiliation with AIPAC, Indyk felt his research wasn't being taken seriously and so started WINEP to convey an image that was "friendly to Israel but doing credible research on the Middle East in a realistic and balanced way."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-Ottoway-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-Fayazmanesh63-8) Indyk would go on to become an American citizen, U.S. diplomat and its ambassador to Israel.[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-Fayazmanesh63-8)

The Washington Institute is registered as a 501(c)(3) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29%283%29) not-for-profit organization, and derives 87 percent of its operating revenues through direct public support.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-us_news-9) As of 2005, its list of trustees included more than 600 names, including Democratic senator Frank Lautenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lautenberg), managing editor of The New York Times Jill Abramson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Abramson), real estate developer A. Alfred Taubman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._Alfred_Taubman), and philanthropist Edgar Bronfman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Bronfman).[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Institute_for_Near_East_Policy#cite_not e-us_news-9) (all good Irish names)


And a bit on the founder

Martin Indyk was born to a Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish) family in London, England, but grew up and was educated in Australia



Indyk was the first United States ambassador to be stripped of a security clearance. Indyk was under investigation for improperly handling sensitive material. (wow a jewish spy? I'm shocked)[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Indyk#cite_note-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Indyk#cite_note-5)[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Indyk#cite_note-6) Indyk's clearance was restored a month later, in October 2000, by Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.

[singular_me]

pretty thorough list.

it seemed like a good history reference - a Zionist listing previous false flags while advocating another false flag with 'a wink and a nod'.

indeed, I can just hope that the listing is a "wake-up" call for people who are afraid of the word "conspiracy" in public. It is right there, in front of their very eyes, no longer impossible to deny.

[vacuum]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfoaLbbAix0

Wow, what a piece of scum.

[Libertarian_Guard]

This guy is the worst. A zionist chicken hawk of the highest degree. And like everyone else here, I would love to ring his chicken hawk neck. What scum! And he's got his facts wrong about the Gulf of Tolkin. It was a total fabrication. What was reported and went into the his-story books, never happened. North Viet Nam never fired on either the Maddox or Turrner Joy. I'm not fact checking again here for the ump' tenth time, but the whole thing was Bull $hit as recorded in the Pentagon Papers.

I only hope that long after I've passed on, history records how the zionists have bribed the american electorate and helped ride this once great country into the ground.

Ample evidence is available to confirm all this.

[undgrd]

[Gullible] Christians will forever forgive Jews for swindling them, betraying them, even killing them. The former are addled by the twin ailments of guilt over the holocaust [hoax] and fervent belief in the Christian directive to "turn the other cheek." Christians, so full of love in their hearts, just refuse to believe that the Jews despise them, hold them in utter contempt and see them purely as objects of exploitation. Someday I hope, some shock will come along, like a skinbracer slap to the face, and snap these passive drone-like Christians out of their self-imposed slavery.

It's funny you mention slavery. Because that's another event I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH. Why do American's (white) feel the need to constantly apologize and/or feel bad about what people from the past did to other people from the past.

Damn programming.

[undgrd]

This guy is the worst. A zionist chicken hawk of the highest degree. And like everyone else here, I would love to ring his chicken hawk neck. What scum! And he's got his facts wrong about the Gulf of Tolkin. It was a total fabrication. What was reported and went into the his-story books, never happened. North Viet Nam never fired on either the Maddox or Turrner Joy. I'm not fact checking again here for the ump' tenth time, but the whole thing was Bull $hit as recorded in the Pentagon Papers.

I only hope that long after I've passed on, history records how the zionists have bribed the american electorate and helped ride this once great country into the ground.

Ample evidence is available to confirm all this.



http://player.vimeo.com/video/3556616
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend."

[iOWNme]

This is INCREDIBLE!!!!!!! MUST WATCH!!!!!!!!

He admits WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Civil War were ALL STAGED ATTACKS!!!!

"We are in the game of using COVERT means against the Iranians" - NEOCON Patrick Clawson


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PfoaLbbAix0

Patrick Clawson of the influential neo-con Washington Institute for Near East Studies OPENLY suggests that the US should provoke Iran into taking the first shot.

[MAGNES]

Isreli lobbyist announces "we need a false flag to get Iran rolling" (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63854-Isreli-lobbyist-announces-quot-we-need-a-false-flag-to-get-Iran-rolling-quot)
Threads like this should stay up on page one instead of the my pony type threads.

Been like this since day one, but this one is smoking gun criminality, they ain't even hiding it anymore.

Ten years ago just mentioning " false flag " people didn't even know what it was.

PNAC wasn't even this blatant even though they spelled it out.

[MAGNES]

This guy is the worst. A zionist chicken hawk of the highest degree. And like everyone else here, I would love to ring his chicken hawk neck. What scum! And he's got his facts wrong about the Gulf of Tolkin. It was a total fabrication. What was reported and went into the his-story books, never happened. North Viet Nam never fired on either the Maddox or Turrner Joy. I'm not fact checking again here for the ump' tenth time, but the whole thing was Bull $hit as recorded in the Pentagon Papers.

I only hope that long after I've passed on, history records how the zionists have bribed the american electorate and helped ride this once great country into the ground.

Ample evidence is available to confirm all this.

I noticed recently in a few threads you are coming out swinging.

The cartoons are keepers, hard drive material.

A +

[mick silver]

back to the top . their game are nobody game . people there playing for keeps

[PatColo]

Max Igan & Ken O'Keefe in Gaza - False Flags & America's 'National Interest' - September 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMcWsIhZgHc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMcWsIhZgHc

Published on Sep 27, 2012 by 1worldcitizen (http://www.youtube.com/user/1worldcitizen)
Max Igan & Ken O'Keefe in Gaza with a humorous and serious look at false flag history making and the illusion of 'American interests'. Patrick Clawson of the Washington Institute for Near East Studies helps us illustrate our points.

[singular_me]

UN Speech: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says world powers are seeking to intimidate Iran


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNg6D4CWj_s&feature=related

[MAGNES]

back to the top . their game are nobody game . people there playing for keeps

You are very busy Mick, the Rooster never sleeps, LOL !

Thanks for bumping good threads.

You deserve a thanks each time you do it from everyone, especially this find, this should be stickied.

Everyone here needs to to what they can to spread this one. Forums, blogs, etc, email.

[mamboni]

UN Speech: Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says world powers are seeking to intimidate Iran

I nominate this as quote of the year for blatantly obvious truth.

[singular_me]

I nominate this as quote of the year for blatantly obvious truth.

hope the vid is worth it as I will watch it later. Downloading at the library like a crazy now for the weekend.

[Libertarian_Guard]

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."

—Thomas Jefferson

[PatColo]

posted to YT on 10/3, but liveleak's had it since 9/29 (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=799_1348921063) - euro show, not sure when it first aired.

it's like she's on the sauce,

Hillary Clinton Laughs Like a Pig when Subject of Iran War Comes Up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob5UzotRGTM)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob5UzotRGTM

started a thread on this, just linking these 2:
Thread: Hillary Laughs re Iran War, maybe (false flag) attack best thing (vid) (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?64022-Hillary-Laughs-re-Iran-War-maybe-%28false-flag%29-attack-best-thing-%28vid%29)

[DMac]

We need to wipe Israel from the map to get world peace going.

[Horn]

We need to wipe Israel from the map to get world peace going.

What he really meant to say is Israel needs to wipe themselves off the map,

so the price of a barrel of oil tripling isn't blamed on U.S. politicians.

[DMac]

What he really meant to say is Israel needs to wipe themselves off the map,

so the price of a barrel of oil tripling isn't blamed on U.S. politicians.

Thanks for the correction. By we I was not aiming for me + others. ;)

[PatColo]

I normally don't post these doom-date stories. KBarrett posted this story by another author into his VT directory (http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/barrett/)... go ahead and size it up & decide what to think!


The 6/22/13 U.S. Coup Plot Revealed (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/03/6-22/)


By John Kimber, JohnKimber.wordpress.com

(http://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/the-62213-u-s-coup-plot-revealed/)

Conquering a nation with 100 million gun owners is a difficult task, so do the ruling psychopaths have a plan which matches their obvious preparations for a violent coup (http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/16/us-government-preemptively-gears-up-for-your-demise/)?

(http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/16/us-government-preemptively-gears-up-for-your-demise/)
OKC, 9/11, and 7/7, were all foretold in detail (http://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/hollywood-announces-6-22-2013-nuclear-terrorism/) within so-called “fiction”. Therefore, it is worth examining the current predictive programming in movies and TV shows etc.


http://johnkimber.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/simpsons-9-11-1997-m1.jpg?w=640&h=426 (http://johnkimber.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/simpsons-9-11-1997-m1.jpg)


Various TV shows, especially the expensive new sci-fi show “Defiance” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defiance_%28TV_series%29), have contained clues about 6/22/13 nuclear false flag attacks (http://johnkimber.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/hollywood-announces-6-22-2013-nuclear-terrorism/). However, it will take more than a few dirty bombs or even nuclear bombs to defeat America, so what else is planned?


Hollywood has shown America being devastated in many ways, including by nuclear bombs, (bioweapon) viruses, EMP attacks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse), and even civil war. So which is it? The cult TV show Jericho (2006-8) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jericho_%28TV_series%29), suggests a combination of all four of these scenarios.

more: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/06/03/6-22/

[PlatinumBlonde]

Wasn't there a show on FOX some years ago that was called 21 that featured a black US president and terrorists that smuggled in a suitcase nuke?

[PatColo]

^ sounds like you may mean the show "24" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_tv_show) ?


Recall, Adelson, jooo casino magnate, was first gingrich's sugar-rabbi, then romney's.

Mitt-For-Brains and the 9-11 Cover-Up - Bollyn (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?62692-Mitt-For-Brains-and-the-9-11-Cover-Up-Bollyn&highlight=Sheldon+Adelson)
Maniac Zionist Jew advocates dropping atomic bomb on Iran (http://therealzcf.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/maniac-zionist-jew-advocates-dropping-atomic-bomb-on-iran/) Zander C. Fuerza (http://therealzcf.wordpress.com/author/zcfuerza/) / 7 hours ago (http://therealzcf.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/maniac-zionist-jew-advocates-dropping-atomic-bomb-on-iran/)
Sheldon Adelson, a billionaire Jewish casino mogul, Israeli citizen and certified psychopath, suggested that the U.S. should drop an atomic bomb on Iran.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6oSAPMYTuss

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6oSAPMYTuss


His exact words were:



What are we going to negotiate about? I would say ‘Listen, you see that desert out there, I want to show you something.’ …You pick up your cell phone and you call somewhere in Nebraska and you say, ‘OK let it go.’ And so there’s an atomic weapon, goes over ballistic missiles, the middle of the desert, that doesn’t hurt a soul. Maybe a couple of rattlesnakes, and scorpions, or whatever. Then you say, ‘See! The next one is in the middle of Tehran. So, we mean business. You want to be wiped out? Go ahead and take a tough position and continue with your nuclear development. You want to be peaceful? Just reverse it all, and we will guarantee you that you can have a nuclear power plant for electricity purposes, energy purposes.’



Adelson’s maniacal recommendations were met with applause by a Yeshiva University audience.


Mondoweiss (http://mondoweiss.net/2013/10/adelson-nuclear-negotiate.html)

[mick silver]

didnt we have a nuke go missing , maybe thats were it will end up