Pastor James Manning: "I Stand with Israel" - WTF?

[iOWNme]

Really?

" I have given my unmitigated and undying support to the State of Israel"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvR2R3yukPI&feature=g-all-u


Make sure you read the comments, looks like Manning is taking a beating on this one.

[LuckyStrike]

People can say what they want but it was nothing but White guilt which led conservatives to post Manning stuff all over the web post election. Everyone I talk to says the exact same thing as Manning regarding Obama and it just gets muted, suddenly a black says something and everyone passes it around like it is the most brilliant thing ever. Same with any of the "conservative" blacks like Walter Williams, you don't see any of us paraded on radio shows because of our knowledge of economics or world events, but a black guy says exactly what millions of White people say and suddenly he is a hero.

I understand that it is rare for a black to understand that their people are still on the plantation and only their master has changed, this should be commended, but I really don't get excited when a black says something millions of White people have said for years but can't in public because only the black has freedom of speech.

I never had anything against Manning until today, of course I do now.

[StreetsOfGold]

You stand with or against Israel. There is no inbetween.
If you stand against Israel you are effectively standing WITH their enemies.

Although I am aware of Israel's wrong-doings, that is for their God to judge, still they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Going against Israel is a SURE path to your destruction.

[LuckyStrike]

You stand with or against Israel. There is no inbetween.
If you stand against Israel you are effectively standing WITH their enemies.

Although I am aware of Israel's wrong-doings, that is for their God to judge, still they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Going against Israel is a SURE path to your destruction.

I have proven using Scripture, beyond a shadow of a doubt in the religion section in my two threads that the jews are not Israel.

Thus far you have been too cowardly to debate me yet continue to go along spewing your outright lies on this board.

[midnight rambler]

Although I am aware of (the modern state of) Israel's wrong-doings, that is for their God to judge

We know that 'their god' is Lucifer, and he looks up at their endeavors in death and destruction and smiles.


Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. --John 8:44-45

[midnight rambler]

I have proven using Scripture, beyond a shadow of a doubt in the religion section in my two threads that the jews are not Israel.

Thus far you have been too cowardly to debate me yet continue to go along spewing your outright lies on this board.


SoG spams the forum with I love IsraHell nonsense and will never engage anyone in a rational, realistic debate, exchange, or conversation about those Lucifer worshiping reprobates and their Death Cult endeavors.

[sirgonzo420]

Poopoo on israel.

Poopoo on it hard.

Real hard.

[iOWNme]

You stand with or against Israel. There is no inbetween.
If you stand against Israel you are effectively standing WITH their enemies.

Although I am aware of Israel's wrong-doings, that is for their God to judge, still they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Going against Israel is a SURE path to your destruction.

I do not claim to be a Bible scholar, but doesnt the good book also say that the Anti-Christ will come out of Israel, and will not even be a Jew, but a 'Fake Jew'? It seems most Christians choose to gloss over these key points.....

Do you know WHO, WHY and HOW the State of Israel was created? This is the Fictional Corporate MoneyChangers home now, and Im supposed to worship it?

Ive never heard Manning talk like this before. I think i will unsubscribe now.....

[Shami-Amourae]

America: Year 2022...

Pastor Manning: "I stand with China! I ruv them rong time!"

[Shami-Amourae]

Christians only started talking like this more and more recently. The United States stood against the creation of Israel while the Soviet Union pushed for it. These Zionists hijacked our government, our monetary system, our media, our businesses, our military, our education system, and our churches. Apparently the USSR didn't work out so well so they decided to make the US their base of operations.

So of course to be a good Christian now you have to get on your knees to Israel, and lick the crusty rosebud of the Zionist State. To get to Heaven you have to draw your tongue up, down, and around the brown bowels of Righteousness. That's right. Submit. Make sure to "Support 100%" the Luciferians who promote all the degradation and parasitism of our society. A society where Failure is rewarded, and Success is punished. History will repeat itself as they run the US into the ground and then find a new host (probably China). They'll just rebrand you and I terrorists and go to war with us with their new host state. It's just history repeating itself.

They call us "Goyim" for a reason. It means "cattle". You are to be milked and then milked some more until the day you are ready for slaughter.

[Canadian-guerilla]

i used to like Manning because he was bashing " Mac Daddy " obankster
now he's off the Xmas card list


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Going against Israel is a SURE path to your destruction.

FUCK YOU israel

your days are numbered . . .

[JohnQPublic]

You stand with or against Israel. There is no inbetween.
If you stand against Israel you are effectively standing WITH their enemies.

Although I am aware of Israel's wrong-doings, that is for their God to judge, still they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Going against Israel is a SURE path to your destruction.

The current state of Israel is not synonymous with the Israel of the Scriptures.

[mick silver]

they can buy anyone are anything at any given time , so why are so many shocked by this ... who to say a hit man not been to see him

[midnight rambler]

they can buy anyone are anything at any given time , so why are so many shocked by this ... who to say a hit man not been to see him

Manning has been a Zio-cocksucker the entire time I've been aware of him (starting in '08).

[Santa]

Every individual, every government, every institution and every church all around the world that stands "with" Israel needs to go stand "in" Israel literally and permanently.

[Golden]

The current state of Israel is not synonymous with the Israel of the Scriptures.

It can easily be said that the current state of America is not synonymous with any former founding documents either.
I think what we're lacking is a clear understanding of the psychology and philosophy involved in a pact that was made long ago. What conclusions or possibilities can be drawn from such mental gymnastics over time? Is this why prophecies speak of Armageddon? A naturally occurring cyclical human condition. A human cost to survive?

Could "SoG" post related scripture on sacrifice, please?

[StreetsOfGold]

To get to Heaven you have to draw your tongue up, down, and around the brown bowels of Righteousness. That's right. Submit. Make sure to "Support 100%"

To go to heaven you MUST be born again. If you're not born again, you'll going to hell. Liking or not liking Israel has NOTHING whatsoever to do with going to heaven.

Israel becoming a nation again is fulfilling prophecy. What a bunch of Bible illerates here and these SAME folks claim they are "prepared"?
You're prepared alright, for hell

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

[EE_]

To go to heaven you MUST be born again. If you're not born again, you'll going to hell. Liking or not liking Israel has NOTHING whatsoever to do with going to heaven.

Israel becoming a nation again is fulfilling prophecy. What a bunch of Bible illerates here and these SAME folks claim they are "prepared"?
You're prepared alright, for hell

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

Since you are the leading bible expert on gsus...I'd like to ask you a question I've asked other religous people I know. What is the difference between Israelites and Jews in the bible?
I understand that the word Jew doesn't even appear until later in the bible.
Were the money changers Israelites or Jews that Jesus whipped and drove out of the temple?
Thanks in advance!
EE

[JohnQPublic]

Since you are the leading bible expert on gsus...I'd like to ask you a question I've asked other religous people I know. What is the difference between Israelites and Jews in the bible?
I understand that the word Jew doesn't even appear until later in the bible.
Were the money changers Israelites or Jews that Jesus whipped and drove out of the temple?
Thanks in advance!
EE

But he said: Thy name shall not be called Jacob, but Israel: for if thou hast been strong against God, how much more shalt thou prevail against men? Gen 32:28

Israel was Joshua, and from him sprang 12 tribes [of Israel].

'Jews' is just a word to agglomerate those who came from the 12 tribes who worshipped at the temple in Jerusalem (in Judea). 'Jew' phonetically comes from the 'Ju' in Judea.

The money changers were un-named, but I guess they worshipped at the temple (so could be loosely called jews), and likely were from the 12 tribes.

[Canadian-guerilla]

To go to heaven you MUST be born again. If you're not born again, you'll going to hell. Liking or not liking Israel has NOTHING whatsoever to do with going to heaven.

Israel becoming a nation again is fulfilling prophecy. What a bunch of Bible illerates here and these SAME folks claim they are "prepared"?
You're prepared alright, for hell


maybe this thread should be moved to the " Religion is a rackett " forum

i will have little tolerance for bible-thumpers after TSHTF

[Neuro]

Jews of today are heavily diluted Pharisees, that take guidance from the Talmud, that to a great degree contradict the Torah. Calling the country they stole Israel, was a stroke of genius, in getting naive Christians to support their crimes.

[Gaillo]

You stand with or against Israel. There is no inbetween.
If you stand against Israel you are effectively standing WITH their enemies.

Although I am aware of Israel's wrong-doings, that is for their God to judge, still they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Going against Israel is a SURE path to your destruction.


To go to heaven you MUST be born again. If you're not born again, you'll going to hell. Liking or not liking Israel has NOTHING whatsoever to do with going to heaven.

Israel becoming a nation again is fulfilling prophecy. What a bunch of Bible illerates here and these SAME folks claim they are "prepared"?
You're prepared alright, for hell

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Romans 9:22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

I cared very, very little for Christianity and bible thumpers before I read your posts... I care even LESS now.

[Shami-Amourae]

Why do you guys keep putting down Bible thumping? That's a great way to get off.

[EE_]

Why do you guys keep putting down Bible thumping? That's a great way to get off.

I don't understand it either, unless we're talking about the people that push it on others.
To each his own...just don't push your beliefs on me.

Christianity has done more for charity and good for society then any other religion.
Organized religion is something else.

http://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/bizarro_atheists.jpg

Also, I think the bible has been altered sometime in history by a certain group to advance their agenda. Because of this I believe many Christians have been misled. The message is mostly good, but the information is not.
http://bornagainpagan.com/photos/001-bible-fairy-tales.jpg

http://www.mchumor.com/00images/3969_atheist_cartoon_KK.gif

http://www.inklesspress.com/atheist.jpg

[Gaillo]

http://www.inklesspress.com/atheist.jpg

This is a gross mischaracterization of Atheism. Portrays Atheism as a "positive" belief that there is no God... which is, at best, a very small minority viewpoint among Atheists. Atheism is the LACK OF belief in God, not necessarily the active belief that there IS NO God. HUGE difference. Most Atheists I've ever met take the "maybe there is a God, but it's up to YOU to prove it to me by providing evidence that such a being exists, but until then I have no reason TO believe" approach. A-Theism = No Belief in God, not BELIEF that there IS NO such a being. It is scientifically impossible to "prove" a negative (that something does NOT exist), a fact that most Atheists are intelligent enough to be aware of, and factor into their world view.

[Shami-Amourae]

That's basically my view. I'd believe in a god/dess if I felt there was evidence for it. I don't get why the deity wouldn't make it obvious to everyone of their existence, especially if they are all powerful. I'm open to the idea that there may be extra-dimensional lifeforms beyond the dimension we live in. Maybe some people interact with these?


Theists usually claim they know something, and if you disagree you must KNOW the opposite. It's the whole "You're with us or against us" thing, which comes off as hostile and most atheists get defensive since of this. That is not the case. My answer literally is "I don't know".

Since I don't know, I can't believe in a deity at the present.

[BrewTech]

I don't believe in the god most people seem to believe in. What I do believe in is the amazingness of the way the world around me is organized. I will spend my entire life marveling over it. I think that's the point.

[sirgonzo420]

I don't believe in the god most people seem to believe in. What I do believe in is the amazingness of the way the world around me is organized. I will spend my entire life marveling over it. I think that's the point.

God ain't a white-haired bearded feller in the clouds.

God just is. Absolute isness.

I'm fairly certain that semantics and language itself get in the way when people don't see eye to eye on it.

[EE_]

http://www.inklesspress.com/atheist.jpg

This is a gross mischaracterization of Atheism. Portrays Atheism as a "positive" belief that there is no God... which is, at best, a very small minority viewpoint among Atheists. Atheism is the LACK OF belief in God, not necessarily the active belief that there IS NO God. HUGE difference. Most Atheists I've ever met take the "maybe there is a God, but it's up to YOU to prove it to me by providing evidence that such a being exists, but until then I have no reason TO believe" approach. A-Theism = No Belief in God, not BELIEF that there IS NO such a being. It is scientifically impossible to "prove" a negative (that something does NOT exist), a fact that most Atheists are intelligent enough to be aware of, and factor into their world view.

I meant no offense to Atheists.
Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I personally believe in a creator. I think all Gods of different religions could be part of the same.
I know Atheists are intellegent and know we just didn't appear from nothing.

[Hillbilly]

Read "fingerprints of the gods" God has been here on earth many times to straiten out the messes that man gets into. No church or organized religion for me but I do believe in God and his Son Jesus Christ. I however will not try and force you to believe anything. But if you do want to talk about then just pm me.

[woodman]

That's basically my view. I'd believe in a god/dess if I felt there was evidence for it. I don't get why the deity wouldn't make it obvious to everyone of their existence, especially if they are all powerful. I'm open to the idea that there may be extra-dimensional lifeforms beyond the dimension we live in. Maybe some people interact with these?


Theists usually claim they know something, and if you disagree you must KNOW the opposite. It's the whole "You're with us or against us" thing, which comes off as hostile and most atheists get defensive since of this. That is not the case. My answer literally is "I don't know".

Since I don't know, I can't believe in a deity at the present.


I figure the word "agnostic" covers it pretty well. So many people think it is so important that others believe precicely as they do. Their circular reasoning is awesome in it's stupidity.

[Santa]

Strictly speaking, derived from the Greek "atheos", atheist means "without God."

Atheism
noun
1. The doctrine or belief that there is no God.
2. Disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.

Both dictionary definitions are predicated on belief. Disbelief is not absence of belief,... it's believing one can decide
whether or not there is a God or gods, which is obviously a belief. :)


‘Atheism’ means the negation of theism, the denial of the existence of God.

Not having a belief about whether God exists or doesn't exist because of a lack of proof is called agnosticism.


Though there are a couple of references in The Oxford English Dictionary to earlier occurrences of the word ‘agnostic’, it seems (perhaps independently) to have been introduced by T. H. Huxley at a party in London to found the Metaphysical Society, which flourished for over a decade and to which belonged notable thinkers and leaders of opinion. Huxley thought that as many of these people liked to describe themselves as adherents of various ‘isms’ he would invent one for himself. He took it from a description in Acts 17:23 of an altar inscribed ‘to an unknown God’. Huxley thought that we would never be able to know about the ultimate origin and causes of the universe. Thus he seems to have been more like a Kantian believer in unknowable noumena than like a Vienna Circle proponent of the view that talk of God is not even meaningful. Perhaps such a logical positivist should be classified as neither a theist nor an atheist, but her view would be just as objectionable to a theist. ‘Agnostic’ is more contextual than is ‘atheist’, as it can be used in a non-theological way, as when a cosmologist might say that she is agnostic about string theory, neither believing nor disbelieving it. In this article I confine myself to the use of ‘agnostic’ in a theological context.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism/

[Gaillo]

Agnosticism, and being "agnostic" are mis-used terms. While it is true that most people (improperly) equate this with the idea of "not knowing if there is a God or not", the actual originally intended meaning is different. I'll let the above citation elaborate:


... Huxley thought that we would never be able to know about the ultimate origin and causes of the universe. Thus he seems to have been more like a Kantian believer in unknowable noumena...

The actual meaning that was INTENDED for the word "Agnostic" is a person who does not believe THAT IT IS POSSIBLE to know whether or not God exists.


As for the dictionary definitions cited for the word "Atheism", well... they are quite obviously incorrect. The word Atheist is a compound word, comprising the latin prefix "A-", meaning without (as in Asexual [without sex], Amoral [without morals], Abiotic [without life], etc.) and the root "Theism", which means a belief in God. Put the two together, and you get "Without belief in God", not "The belief that there is no God". Again, it's a HUGE difference... and I'm surprised and dissappointed that a mainstream dictionary entry would get it so obviously wrong.

Actually, I'm not all THAT surprised... our culture and minds are under attack, and one of the surest ways to attack the mind is to muddle and confuse the meanings of words (concepts), which are the very fabric of the mind!

[Horn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEmvf_6k0pM&feature=related


Nihilism is also a characteristic that has been ascribed to time periods: for example, Jean Baudrillard and others have called postmodernity a nihilistic epoch, and some Christian theologians and figures of religious authority have asserted that postmodernity and many aspects of modernity represent a rejection of theism, and that rejection of their theistic doctrine entails nihilism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihilism

[cheka.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2CC3DcwAin0

[End Times]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2CC3DcwAin0

"Let God be true, but every man a liar"

[midnight rambler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=2CC3DcwAin0

I'm thinking his efforts are pretty lame.

[BrewTech]

Jews of today are heavily diluted Pharisees, that take guidance from the Talmud, that to a great degree contradict the Torah. Calling the country they stole Israel, was a stroke of genius, in getting naive Christians to support their crimes.

I would like to go on record as thanking this post again on this date...

[Neuro]

I don't believe in the god most people seem to believe in. What I do believe in is the amazingness of the way the world around me is organized. I will spend my entire life marveling over it. I think that's the point.
Likewise!