Unsurvivable - Thermonuclear War And Its Consequences.

[Ponce]

I believe that only the state of Israel would want something like this...No need to place all those nuclear weapons in other countries sinse whe are capable or reaching any point on Earth righ from our own front yard, the reason to place those weapons overseas is nothing more than to involve those countries in our war so that "You are either with us or against us" becomes the objective.
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A dark, gruesome, but wholly true depiction of the threat of thermonuclear war, the consequences, and Obama's deployment of a major portion of the U.S. thermonuclear capabilities in multiple theaters threatening both Russia and China.

http://xrepublic.tv/node/459

[Hatha Sunahara]

Here is a speculation from a guy whose science is questionable, but his politics is probably accurate in its assessment:

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/blackmail.html

This probably explains why all the politicians in western countries are so deferential to Israel.


Hatha

[chad]

like i have said before, it is unfortunate that all of the people in houston, tx (the world) have to die in a big war because one person on 187th street (israel) is an asshole and can't get along with the rest of the city.

[beefsteak]

If you'll permit me, I'd like to bring back to the fore a fact that was unearthed during the time of Serpo's and my earlier investigation into the zeolite aspect of Fukushima mitigation, only the topic at that time...when Antonio wasn't banned--was Chernobyl. I sincerely miss Antonio's cogent Chernobyl postings. I hope he is well and still reading this forum as at least a lurker. His insight and post Chernobyl sharings were invaluable, at least to me.

Retail Soft-drinks easily available in the middle east, ALLLLLL along the mediterranean --both shores-- have a governmentally endorsed radiation shedding / internal physiological chelator in each and every container, and have for consistently for almost 27 years now. Yes, since Chernobyl. Yes, with a specific zeolite.

Could it be possible that part of the brashness of the israeli PTB is due to this preventative, yay, even "pre-need" consumer beverage ingredient that has been continuously part of the soft-drink/mixed drink beverage industry over there and poured down the gullets of the unsuspecting populace there?

It has crossed my mind.

[chad]

If you'll permit me, I'd like to bring back to the fore a fact that was unearthed during the time of Serpo's and my earlier investigation into the zeolite aspect of Fukushima mitigation, only the topic at that time...when Antonio wasn't banned--was Chernobyl.

Retail Soft-drinks in the middle east, ALLLLLL along the mediterranean have a governmentally endorsed radiation shedding / cleaning internal physiological properties in each and every container and have for almost 27 years now, SINCE Chernobyl. Yes, with a specific zeolite.

Could it be possible that part of the brashness of the israeli PTB is due to this pre-need consumer "staple" that has been continuously part of the soft-drink/mixed drink beverage industry over there?

It has crossed my mind.

can redo this in retard speak for me? i'm tired today and am not following you.

[beefsteak]

I did some edits to help before I found your reply, Chad.
1) Israel has known like forever it was coming down to a nuke event of some time.
2) Their PTB have been acclimating their population (as well as the rest of the Middle East) via innocent looking, cheap beverages with specific zeolite chelator as part of the approved beverage ingredients list, over against the day when their worst fears come to pass.
3) Could this be part and parcel as to why some israelis are so brazen and emboldened in their effort to create a nuke war?

[chad]

I did some edits to help before I found your reply, Chad.
1) Israel has known like forever it was coming down to a nuke event of some time.
2) Their PTB have been acclimating their population (as well as the rest of the Middle East) via innocent looking, cheap beverages with specific zeolite chelator as part of the approved beverage ingredients list, over against the day when their worst fears come to pass.
3) Could this be part and parcel as to why some israelis are so brazen and emboldened in their effort to create a nuke war?

hmm, that would seem to make sense. thanks for the clarification. :D

[Hatha Sunahara]

Here are two links to articles by Jim Kirwan that I am almost reluctant to post because they are so 'doomy and gloomy':

http://www.kirwanesque.net/2012/4836/damnit/

http://www.kirwanesque.net/2012/4827/a-fool/

He gives a good description of what would happen in a thermonuclear global war. The good news is that it would all be over in an hour or two. The bad news is that not many will survive.

I also saw a very gloomy YT piece by G Edward Griffin about how TPTB want to cull the population down by 86%. HEre:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC5_Ms1-bkk

What's with all this gloom and doom? If we're all going to die, it might be time to start really enjoying life. And if we're not going to die, it might be good practice to start enjoying life despite all the gloom and doom.

Hatha

[Glass]

What's with all this gloom and doom? If we're all going to die, it might be time to start really enjoying life. And if we're not going to die, it might be good practice to start enjoying life despite all the gloom and doom.

Hatha

That is what I concluded. I just thought to heck with it. I've been busting my butt and scrimping, going without and feeding myself cheaply including cheap bulk meat for decades. After getting cheesed off with all the water injected into the meat to increase weight which meant broiling my streaks instead of frying, I went to a real butcher. I didn't know steak could taste so good and melt in the mouth like that. What a revelation that was. So I thought Stuff it! If it's all going to hell in a handbasket I'm going to go out large. I might not be able to keep it going but I'm going to enjoy what I can while I can.

[Neuro]

I did some edits to help before I found your reply, Chad.
1) Israel has known like forever it was coming down to a nuke event of some time.
2) Their PTB have been acclimating their population (as well as the rest of the Middle East) via innocent looking, cheap beverages with specific zeolite chelator as part of the approved beverage ingredients list, over against the day when their worst fears come to pass.
3) Could this be part and parcel as to why some israelis are so brazen and emboldened in their effort to create a nuke war?
What would be the purpose of starting a nuclear war in the middle east, if you at the same time try and save the population by using this Zeolite Chelator, and is especially put in soft drinks, which the great unwashed masses are the biggest consumers of, vs the elite who drinks healthier thirst clenchers?

[beefsteak]

The elite are drinking the same zeolite...they just pay more. LOL

[DMac]

Watched the video, I think it was a LaRouche production. Now Obama is the Anti-Christ that is planning thermonuclear war.....fear fear fear.

While the submarine info was interesting I did not agree with the premise that Obama is the one initiating all this. Nor did I appreciate the scare mongering flashes of bomb explosions for maximum fear production.

[Hatha Sunahara]

I don't understand what good a zeolite will do in a thermonuclear war. Thermonuclear weapons are relatively clean in terms of fallout and radioacive nuclear debris. If you believe that the WTC towers were destroyed by nukes beneath them, then the number of deaths from radioactivity of the products of the explosions are relatively small. The amount of radioactivity in lower Manhattan is relatively small as well. That's because these explosions were underground. An atmospheric blast, or a series of them would kill with heat from the fireball and the blast wave. Those who survive that will find that the nuclear poisoning they would get from the fallout would be negligible.

If a nuclear war involves 'dirty bombs', such as DU pulverized with conventional explosives that spread radioactivity far and wide in atomized form, I can see where a zeolite would be a way to reduce the harmful effects. Also, one way to wage a nuclear war would be to have one blast at an altitude sufficient to cause an EMP over a wide area. Such a blast 200 miles above Kansas would render all electronics in the USA useless. That would be far crueller than destroying cities with 450kt hbombs and incinerating the population. Just think of what it would be like to live without electricity or anything powered by it.


Hatha