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madfranks
3rd October 2012, 12:36 PM
As a fan of error coins this pisses me off, but as a fan of classic gold and silver error coins, I don't care that much about these cheap token errors.

http://www.coinworld.com/articles/judge-sentences-mint-police-officer-to-prison/


Judge sentences Mint police officer to prison

Sold stolen error coins to unwitting coin dealer

By Paul Gilkes-Coin World Staff | Oct. 03, 2012 10:00 a.m.

The 2007 George Washington Presidential dollar missing its edge inscription is of the type a former Philadelphia Mint police officer admitted stealing from the coin production facility.

Former Philadelphia Mint police officer William Gray was sentenced to a term in federal prison Sept. 13 on charges related to the theft of error coins from the Mint facility.

The sentencing occurred a year after Gray admitted he stole thousands of Presidential dollars lacking the edge inscription from the Philadelphia Mint and sold them to a California coin dealer for approximately $2.4 million.

The former Philadelphia Mint police officer was sentenced by U.S. District Court Judge Noel L. Hillman in Camden, N.J., to 36 months in a federal penitentiary. Gray, aged 65, is from North Wildwood, N.J. Judge Hillman also sentenced Gray to three years of supervised release after serving the prison term, and ordered Gray to pay $15,208 in restitution to the U.S. Mint, forfeit property that is traceable to having been associated with the sale of the stolen coins, and cooperate with the IRS concerning his tax liability for underreporting his earnings.

The property to be forfeited includes $2.3 million in cash, two houses in Philadelphia, five motor vehicles, a boat and boat motor.

Gray admitted depositing the proceeds from the sale of the stolen coins into his Police and Fire Federal Credit Union account.

Gray pleaded guilty to one count each of theft of government property, tax evasion, mail fraud and money laundering.

Gray worked as a Philadelphia Mint police officer from June 1996 through January 2011, after a 26-year career as a police officer for the City of Philadelphia.

Gray admitted before Judge Hillman that the thefts began in 2007, the year the Presidential $1 Coin Program was introduced.

Gray admitted in court that he removed coins lacking the edge inscription from the coining area and placed them into small bags that he then removed from the Philadelphia Mint. Gray admitted taking coins lacking the edge lettering because he knew they would be more valuable to collectors than normal coins.

Gray removed the coins before the edge inscription was added, which occurs in a separate production step after the coins are struck with a plain edge.

Theft and sale of coins

Matthew Reilly, acting public affairs officer for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Newark, told Coin World on Sept. 25 that the U.S. Mint estimates that Gray stole from 10,108 to 12,208 Presidential dollars of different designs that were lacking the edge inscription.

Gray said he was initially paid $20 per coin, and eventually received from $70 to $75 per coin.

Gray admitted to shipping the coins to the coin dealer in California from the U.S. Postal Service facility in Rio Grande, N.J., and from the Federal Express facility in Egg Harbor Township, N.J.

Gray also admitted that between 2007 and 2009, he failed to report the sales of the stolen coins on his income tax return. Gray admitted understating his tax liability by $801,651.

According to Gray’s plea agreement filed Sept. 8, 2011, a public document that Coin World obtained, Gray identified the California coin firm to whom he sold the stolen error coins as Byers Numismatic Corp. The firm, owned by Michael S. Byers, is currently located in San Clemente, Calif.

Reilly said Sept. 25 that there is no evidence that Byers knew the Presidential dollars lacking edge lettering that Gray supplied to the firm were stolen. Reilly said the U.S. Attorney’s Office has no plans to pursue any charges against Byers.

Ownership questions

Tom Jurkowsky, director of the U.S. Mint’s Office of Public Affairs, issued a statement to Coin World on Sept. 23, 2011, in response to a question concerning the legality of ownership of error coins depending on how they enter the marketplace.

“Error coins that are lawfully issued — coins that were not detected by humans or machines — belong to whomever has lawful possession of them,” according to the statement published in an
Oct. 10, 2011, Coin World article.

“The United States Mint strives to achieve only the highest quality of coins that it produces. However, we as humans — despite our high professional standards and use of exceptional machinery and equipment — occasionally make mistakes. While rare, coins containing errors have legally left our facilities. As long as such coins have been legally issued (e.g., numismatic coins sold to collectors who purchase numismatic products, or circulating coins sold to the Federal Reserve Banks), they may be privately owned. We do what we can to minimize those occurrences and pride ourselves on the very low number of error coins that do, in fact, find their way into circulation or into our numismatic products,” according to the Mint statement.

“What we cannot control, unfortunately, is human nature and a person’s willingness to abuse the trust and authority that is given to them. And what we cannot legally sanction is the private ownership or sale of the objects of such abuse — error pieces that were never legally issued and, as such, remain property belonging to the United States. When that abuse occurs, we will act appropriately.”

According to the article, “Based on Jurkowsky’s statement, it would seem that the coins stolen by the Mint police officer and sold into the marketplace remain Mint property and thus are not legal to own. However, it remains to be seen whether those coins can be distinguished from those Presidential dollars lacking edge inscriptions that were legitimately released. The future of the stolen coins may hinge on any continuing investigation into their theft and distribution into the marketplace.”

Reilly, the U.S. Attorney’s Office spokesman in Newark, indicated Sept. 25, 2012, that federal officials are not pursuing any additional investigation involving the stolen coins.

palani
3rd October 2012, 01:27 PM
Mint used to deliver errors by the semi-load. They came equipped with several officers carrying weapons. They had to stay there and watch while the load was dumped into the furnace and melted down.

After the mint bought these Belgian waffling machines they stopped escorting the shipment of duds. The funny thing is for a while the waffled coins were collectable as well.

madfranks
3rd October 2012, 01:50 PM
Mint used to deliver errors by the semi-load. They came equipped with several officers carrying weapons. They had to stay there and watch while the load was dumped into the furnace and melted down.

After the mint bought these Belgian waffling machines they stopped escorting the shipment of duds. The funny thing is for a while the waffled coins were collectable as well.

They still market the waffled coins as collectable, and it's amazing to me that there is a market for them. A waffled coin is effectively a recognized and destroyed error destined for the scrap heap.

willie pete
9th October 2012, 06:23 AM
wow, a crooked cop, who would've thought :rolleyes:

Neuro
9th October 2012, 07:47 AM
Doesn't the mint count the coins coming out of the machine? It should be obvious when they put in more blanks than ready coins...

palani
9th October 2012, 07:53 AM
Doesn't the mint count the coins coming out of the machine? It should be obvious when they put in more blanks than ready coins...

These are government employees. Don't expect too much of them. They once stamped a whole roll of quarters out of dime stock (several thousand pounds).

gunDriller
9th October 2012, 02:18 PM
given the long tradition of revolving doors between "public service" in the defense, financial, ag, & biotech industries, i'm surprised more Mint employees don't go to work for coin shops.

stamp out some valuable error coins, then go sell error coins.

but maybe that would be too obvious ? not that that stops the Fascists in the other industries.

madfranks
10th October 2012, 06:29 AM
I don't think error coins could realistically be purposefully made by a shifty mint employee. They make hundreds of thousands of coins a day, all mechanically sorted, stamped and packaged. More valuable mint errors like die caps, strike-throughs and brockages would be impossible to do on purpose, and then tracking them down once they're mixed with the other hundreds of thousands of coins would most likely be impossible.

Neuro
10th October 2012, 07:23 AM
I don't think error coins could realistically be purposefully made by a shifty mint employee. They make hundreds of thousands of coins a day, all mechanically sorted, stamped and packaged. More valuable mint errors like die caps, strike-throughs and brockages would be impossible to do on purpose, and then tracking them down once they're mixed with the other hundreds of thousands of coins would most likely be impossible.
In this example it said in your OP that he took the coins before the side was stamped...

madfranks
10th October 2012, 08:40 AM
In this example it said in your OP that he took the coins before the side was stamped...

I guess it depends on the type of error. The presidential dollars in the OP were simply removed before they had their edge stamping, which I'm not sure I would even call a mint error, it's simply an unfinished coin. Most errors are made somewhere in the automated process (clipped planchet, misfed planchet, double strike, etc. etc) and would be next to impossible to do on purpose.

Neuro
10th October 2012, 10:02 AM
I guess it depends on the type of error. The presidential dollars in the OP were simply removed before they had their edge stamping, which I'm not sure I would even call a mint error, it's simply an unfinished coin. Most errors are made somewhere in the automated process (clipped planchet, misfed planchet, double strike, etc. etc) and would be next to impossible to do on purpose.
One would think that the coin dealer who bought more than 10.000 of these coins from him, at some point would get suspicious about the erroneous nature of these coins...

madfranks
10th October 2012, 10:41 AM
One would think that the coin dealer who bought more than 10.000 of these coins from him, at some point would get suspicious about the erroneous nature of these coins...

No kidding! And I've never seen the allure of those "missing edge lettering" coins, for two reasons. One, like I mentioned, it's really just an unfinished coin, and two, they're made of token metal! I prefer the more classic errors on precious metal coins.