View Full Version : silver fakewardation
Large Sarge
5th October 2012, 07:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1r7BnPP32E&feature=player_embedded
Dogman
5th October 2012, 07:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1r7BnPP32E&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1r7BnPP32E&feature=youtu.be
Spectrism
5th October 2012, 11:36 AM
99.8% of the silver traded daily is NON-EXISTANT. It is paper trading with no substance in physical reality.
Neuro
5th October 2012, 12:17 PM
99.8% of the silver traded daily is NON-EXISTANT. It is paper trading with no substance in physical reality.
Yes, but many traders may get in and out of silver several times a day. Further you may make spreads if you don't have silver. And then you have the high frequency trades, where a bank goes in and buy just prior to another buyer to get the price up for his buy, and sell it to the customer at a higher price and make a cent or so on an ounce. Certainly the 500:1 ratio is ridiculous but at least a large proportion can be explained by the above factors.
MAGNES
5th October 2012, 12:50 PM
99.8% of the silver traded daily is NON-EXISTANT. It is paper trading with no substance in physical reality.
Capping Silver, Massive Volume Price Drops (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?48305-Capping-Silver-Massive-Volume-Price-Drops)
Lots of posts/charts related to this. Nobody that I have seen has addressed where the volume is coming from.
It's all phantom/partner/Crimex/MM trades to destroy real traders, swinging them in and out of positions.
Major stops were hit and there is major trading volumes.
I am posting charts above at key points related to this.
You would expect major volumes at these points.
The title is bogus as is some of their analysis, see above posts.
Traders are getting whipped in and out of trading positions,
look at the charts I have been posting, on major fault lines
this happens, this is where stops are. They are triggering
10-20 K, OI at the end of the day is close to previous or
same, nothing was dumped, just massive frequency of trading,
we don't know who the traders are, but the game is to burn
everyone, and the MM are left standing, they are the riggers.
This behavior is no doubt criminal and this is how they rig
the market. Any old student of Butler, LeMetro, would know this.
This is why COT and OI is so important. COT in the past was also
good trading chart for signals to follow, but not last 3 years till
this Dec.
BREAKING Cartel Dumps 225 Mill Oz of Paper Silver Over 30 Minutes, Gold/Silver Raided (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?59280-BREAKING-Cartel-Dumps-225-Mill-Oz-of-Paper-Silver-Over-30-Minutes-Gold-Silver-Raided)
I have lots of charts above, key points, volumes, and I have referred to my own posts
many times, and I have traded some of this, it is hard to, they are small trades.
Right now GC is sitting for a while at key point, we need to see clear break above 1800,
everything else is noise, then maybe go long SI, that's my next trade. When GC made it
to this area I opened this thread with charts
Sprott: No Economic Recovery (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?63728-Sprott-No-Economic-Recovery)
Ponce
5th October 2012, 12:56 PM
The more non existant silver that is out there? the more existant that I have at hand hehehehehehehehe :)
LuckyStrike
5th October 2012, 01:49 PM
I'm with Ponce, unless some of you are planning on retiring on silver profits with a set deadline for retirement, or just lose sleep over the volatility, why do you care about the manipulation? It won't go on for ever, and in the meantime keep stacking at discounted prices.
Spectrism
5th October 2012, 03:51 PM
I'm with Ponce, unless some of you are planning on retiring on silver profits with a set deadline for retirement, or just lose sleep over the volatility, why do you care about the manipulation? It won't go on for ever, and in the meantime keep stacking at discounted prices.
I would actually like to see the price back down around $20. Unless I come into some serious money, I find other preps more important right now.
LuckyStrike
5th October 2012, 04:05 PM
I would actually like to see the price back down around $20. Unless I come into some serious money, I find other preps more important right now.
I'm in the same boat.
gunDriller
5th October 2012, 05:12 PM
I'm with Ponce, unless some of you are planning on retiring on silver profits with a set deadline for retirement, or just lose sleep over the volatility, why do you care about the manipulation? It won't go on for ever, and in the meantime keep stacking at discounted prices.
i agree it's good to take advantage of the veritable gift constituted by artificially low prices.
but i think the currency manipulation will continue for the foreseeable future.
currency manipulation has been a cornerstone of the "Strong Dollar Policy" which Greenspan helped to implement, in about 1994.
obviously they don't have a REAL strong dollar policy, the US gov. does a lot of things that weaken the national currency.
but then they compensate by playing silly games with paper commodities & commodity-related credit derivatives in the futures market.
i would say that it is an "effective" policy, in the sense that it scares people away from Silver and Gold.
why stop ?
as long as there is a US government, they will be playing Stupid Pet Tricks with the US $ - until they go in a different direction. which they show no signs of doing.
of course, at some point the bond markets will rebel, and will refuse to finance US debt for 1% or whatever the low rate currently is. if anything, i think that will make the US gov. more desperate - and they already seem pretty desperate, considering how criminal the US gov. has become.
Ponce
5th October 2012, 05:32 PM
And then when silver goes to $150.00 you will say "I would like to have bought it at $42.17"
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