View Full Version : Ethnic difference between Celtic Irish and Scotch Irish
hoarder
6th October 2012, 03:40 PM
Maybe some of you can educate me on this. My dad was 1/4 Irish and had freckles on his arms and back. I had always assumed that meant Celtic. Isn't it the Celtic Irish who (in some cases) have red hair, kinky hair and/or freckles?
I understand the Scottish Lowlanders who were "given" Northern Ireland by the English are the "Irish" many of whom immigrated to the US in the early 1800's and were largely responsible for the Western Expansion of this country, being a bit more brave and warlike than the English and Dutch who (less bravely) stayed East of the Appalachians.
Then there is the phenomenon of the "Fighting Irish". Whenever I meet a White guy who likes to fight and places considerable emphasis on the merits of bravery and ability to fight and generally being a badass, I find out later that he's Irish.
I assume that Celtic Irish and Scotch Irish are separate ethnic groups, so which ones are characterized by red hair, freckles and the fighting attitude?
A friend of mine has all these traits to the extreme, including kinky hair, but has a Scottish last name. I always assumed he was 1/4 or 1/8 Scottish.
Serpo
6th October 2012, 03:46 PM
Maybe some of you can educate me on this. My dad was 1/4 Irish and had freckles on his arms and back. I had always assumed that meant Celtic. Isn't it the Celtic Irish who (in some cases) have red hair, kinky hair and/or freckles?
I understand the Scottish Lowlanders who were "given" Northern Ireland by the English are the "Irish" many of whom immigrated to the US in the early 1800's and were largely responsible for the Western Expansion of this country, being a bit more brave and warlike than the English and Dutch who (less bravely) stayed East of the Appalachians.
Then there is the phenomenon of the "Fighting Irish". Whenever I meet a White guy who likes to fight and places considerable emphasis on the merits of bravery and ability to fight and generally being a badass, I find out later that he's Irish.
I assume that Celtic Irish and Scotch Irish are separate ethnic groups, so which ones are characterized by red hair, freckles and the fighting attitude?
A friend of mine has all these traits to the extreme, including kinky hair, but has a Scottish last name. I always assumed he was 1/4 or 1/8 Scottish.
http://www.labellealliance.it/risorse_birre/guinness.jpg
here is the true test.................after enough of these we are ALL Irish...........
slowbell
6th October 2012, 03:59 PM
They could also be separated by religion as well. Most true Irish are Catholics, perhaps the Scots Irish are the ones who are Protestant? Being about 1/4 Irish myself, I am curious too.
Also, Guinness is a Protestant beer. If you are Irish Catholic, you should drink Murphy's. Murphy's is better anyway. :) In fact, I just poured a Murphy's right now.
milehi
6th October 2012, 04:11 PM
My last name is Welsh. Several years ago my brother sent a DNA sample to an ancestery place. We also had Scottish and Irish show up, but there was a high percentage of Viking too which makes sense if you know the history of the British Isles.
The report said most everything else was German. Interestingly, our maternal DNA is of a subhaplogroup that only shows up in the Four Corners area, the Yucatan Pennisula and a region of Mongolia.
TheNocturnalEgyptian
6th October 2012, 04:27 PM
Not sure what the difference is at the genetic level, I can research it.
I am both Irish and Scotish on my white half's side.
Clan of Ross =)
hoarder
6th October 2012, 04:42 PM
Not sure what the difference is at the genetic level, I can research it.
I am both Irish and Scotish on my white half's side.
Clan of Ross =)FYI, beware of Jews named Roth who changed it to Ross. There are quite a few floating around, probably giving your ancestors a bad name.
Neuro
6th October 2012, 04:43 PM
One of my best friends is Northern Irish, and he has freckles everywhere, but he is of Scottish ancestry. The Glasgow coma scale is called after him. I haven't had any contact with him for the last ten years. Back then we used to say that Tony Blair was anti-christ. I think we were correct! He certainly have the fighting spirit in him!
Ponce
6th October 2012, 04:49 PM
Well, I am a BLACK IRISH........I won't even go into that ahahahahahahaaahah.......
hoarder
6th October 2012, 05:08 PM
Another trait that seems to go hand in hand with the aforementioned ones is sky blue eyes. Many Irish have very light blue eyes, much lighter than found in Germans.
Celtic Rogue
6th October 2012, 06:13 PM
Scot's have more viking/norse blood than the celtic irish... but the Scots were celts also. If rome had not decimated the Celtic culture... we would live in a much different world. The Celts lived from northern africa west coast to scotland. Were known for their detailed jewelry work and had both men and women in leadership roles. Ponce I am really black irish... the general theory is when the armada was sunk off of the irish/english coast... some spaniards swam ashore and assimilated into the general population. I have blue eyes and darkish skin. So maybe that was how it all came about.... who knows for sure!
Horn
6th October 2012, 06:26 PM
I guess I'm a Celt Irish,
as I have a complete disassociation with those Scottish type red head freckly faced type warrior people you speak of.
zap
6th October 2012, 06:42 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
Today, red hair is most commonly found at the northern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe) and western fringes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe) of Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe); it is associated particularly with the people located in theUnited Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and in Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland) (although Victorian era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era) ethnographers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnographers) claimed that the Udmurt people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udmurt_people) of the Volga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga) were "the most red-headed men in the world").[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-9) Redheads are common among Germanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples) and Celtic peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts_(modern)).Redheads constitute approximately 4 percent of the European population.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-10) Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) has the highest proportion of redheads; 13 per cent of the population has red hair and approximately 40 per cent carries the recessive redhead gene.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-11) Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) has the second highest percentage; as many as 10 per cent of the Irish population has red, auburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_hair), or strawberry blond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond#strawberry_blond) hair.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-12) It is thought that up to 46 percent of the Irish population carries the recessive redhead gene. A 1956 study of hair colour amongst British army recruits also found high levels of red hair in Wales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales) and the English Border counties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_border).[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-13)
Red hair is also fairly common amongst the Ashkenazi Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish) populations, possibly because of the influx of European DNA over a period of centuries,[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] or in the original founding of their communities in Europe.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-14) Both Esau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esau) and David (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David) are described in the Bible as red-haired. In European culture, prior to the 20th century, red hair was often seen as a stereotypically Jewish trait: during the Spanish Inquisition, all those with red hair were identified as Jewish.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-15) In Italy, red hair was associated with Italian Jews, and Judas was traditionally depicted as red-haired in Italian and Spanish art.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-16) Writers from Shakespeare to Dickens would identify Jewish characters by giving them red hair.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-17) The stereotype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype) that red hair is Jewish remains in parts of Eastern Europe and Russia.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-18)
MAGNES
6th October 2012, 07:10 PM
Maybe some of you can educate me on this.
Then there is the phenomenon of the "Fighting Irish".
[ skyvike found this out the hard way with Awoke and Gaillo, LOL ! ]
Indo European history is very important. This history is suppressed and even trolled.
Everyone here should learn the basics. It is easy. This history was introduced to me
studying European languages on my own, just from a language point of view it is very
educational. We cover many related topics on here.
At this point I see this thread has many issues that need addressing.
Red hair is an Indo European trait, first of all, not Irish, the frequency varies.
Both Irish and Scottish are both Celtic Indo Europeans and the Indigenous to todays UK.
The Celts are the most dominate Indo Europeans in terms of the land mass covered.
Todays UK, you had/have many Celtic separate languages, some died, this is main 5 I remember
from book, Welsh, Breton, Britannic, Gaelic, Gallic. Wiki lists others ? All these peoples are Indigenous Celtic Indo Europeans. For languages to evolve, not to a dialect, but a distinct language, these people were separated for long periods of time and very tribal. There was a major Ice Age and as the ice receded European man spread into the continent. Northern Europe being the last of major movements. There may have been some people there, but they were hunter gatherers, they may have had the technology to survive Ice Age in small groups hunting in some places. Europe is occupied by Indo European man, our main homeland
being central Asia. People evolved separately. Common traits became more diversified and some
traits multiplied. This applies to appearance, hair, eyes, skin. Red hair, blond hair, blue eyes, very light pale skin, these are degenerative genes and in some populations multiplied. Geography is a part of it.
Having a weird marker, does not make your race either, that is one marker of one person,
after 100 generations, those 99 generations before you make your race. Genetics is being
manipulated by the Marxist School/Frankfurt School/Leftists/Jews to play games on us.
Be aware of this.
This is a story of how the Irish and Co. saved GIM.
HOW THE IRISH SAVED CIVILIZATION (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?45892-HOW-THE-IRISH-SAVED-CIVILIZATION)
This is not fantasy history. It's real.
St. Patrick, learn his history as well, it is incredible.
You will understand where the Fighting Irish comes from.
The English, I don't mean to offend you, but you are not the Indigenous.
The English had no problem warring on, enslaving and genociding my Celtic Brothers.
Understanding this history, you understand history a lot better. Irish were taken as
slaves, press ganged, raided on by Muslims, starved, treated as second class citizens
in their own land. The " Potato Famine " was engineered. The USA had numerous Irish Slaves.
etc
My people come from Northern Greece, we are mountain people, and our culture
is very similar to the culture of the Scots Highlanders, it is quite incredible really.
I was born with red hair, this is not unusual, my hair changed to ash brown.
BrewTech
6th October 2012, 07:18 PM
My last name is Welsh.
"Milehi Welsh"... that's an odd name...
o)(~
hoarder
6th October 2012, 08:05 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
Today, red hair is most commonly found at the northern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe) and western fringes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe) of Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe); it is associated particularly with the people located in theUnited Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and in Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland) (although Victorian era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era) ethnographers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnographers) claimed that the Udmurt people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udmurt_people) of the Volga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga) were "the most red-headed men in the world").[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-9) Redheads are common among Germanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples) and Celtic peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts_(modern)).Redheads constitute approximately 4 percent of the European population.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-10) Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) has the highest proportion of redheads; 13 per cent of the population has red hair and approximately 40 per cent carries the recessive redhead gene.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-11) Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) has the second highest percentage; as many as 10 per cent of the Irish population has red, auburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_hair), or strawberry blond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond#strawberry_blond) hair.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-12) It is thought that up to 46 percent of the Irish population carries the recessive redhead gene. A 1956 study of hair colour amongst British army recruits also found high levels of red hair in Wales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales) and the English Border counties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_border).[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-13)
Red hair is also fairly common amongst the Ashkenazi Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish) populations, possibly because of the influx of European DNA over a period of centuries,[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] or in the original founding of their communities in Europe.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-14) Both Esau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esau) and David (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David) are described in the Bible as red-haired. In European culture, prior to the 20th century, red hair was often seen as a stereotypically Jewish trait: during the Spanish Inquisition, all those with red hair were identified as Jewish.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-15) In Italy, red hair was associated with Italian Jews, and Judas was traditionally depicted as red-haired in Italian and Spanish art.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-16) Writers from Shakespeare to Dickens would identify Jewish characters by giving them red hair.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-17) The stereotype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype) that red hair is Jewish remains in parts of Eastern Europe and Russia.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-18)Interesting, but who can trust wikiJEWdia?
MAGNES
6th October 2012, 08:32 PM
Interesting, but who can trust wikiJEWdia?
#18
Jewish hearts: a study of dynamic ethnicity in the United States and the Soviet Union, SUNY Press, 2001, Betty N. Hoffman, page 106
Red haired people all over Europe, including the leadership, for ages, everywhere, various shades of red, I don't buy these points made.
Indo European people are the planets most significant people in many ways. Land Mass/Population wise in the past as well.
Columbus is described as red haired, during the time of the Wars, Inquisition and Expulsion of Jews and Muslims from Spain.
Jews have European genes, not the other way around, whether they are Khazars or from the ME.
slowbell
6th October 2012, 08:54 PM
Irish were taken as
slaves, press ganged, raided on by Muslims, starved, treated as second class citizens
in their own land. The " Potato Famine " was engineered. The USA had numerous Irish Slaves.
etc
The "potato famine" was engineered by the English, to starve out the Irish. To this day, a lot of Irish still hate the English.
In Dublin, I was pub crawling with several Irishmen I had met, they decided to take me a traditional pub. Before entering, one said to me, "You are not English are you....the English aren't welcome here."
Horn
7th October 2012, 12:19 AM
...the English aren't welcome here."
It was once said by the Irish around about the time of The Bruce in Scotland, when they tried to form an alliance with Ireland to overthrow England.
That the Scots were even worse company then the English...
slowbell
7th October 2012, 08:37 AM
If you know your Irish family surname, you can find your Irish coat of arms on this site. Find your name on the left hand side.
http://www.irishsurnames.com/coatsofarms/gm.htm
Horn
7th October 2012, 08:48 AM
If you know your Irish family surname, you can find your Irish coat of arms on this site. Find your name on the left hand side.
http://www.irishsurnames.com/coatsofarms/gm.htm
Note that the Mc's & the O's are found by the following letter...
Neuro
7th October 2012, 08:49 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
Today, red hair is most commonly found at the northern (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Europe) and western fringes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Europe) of Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe); it is associated particularly with the people located in theUnited Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom) and in Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland) (although Victorian era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era)ethnographers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnographers) claimed that the Udmurt people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udmurt_people) of the Volga (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga) were "the most red-headed men in the world").[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-9) Redheads are common among Germanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples) and Celtic peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts_(modern)).Redheads constitute approximately 4 percent of the European population.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-10) Scotland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland) has the highest proportion of redheads; 13 per cent of the population has red hair and approximately 40 per cent carries the recessive redhead gene.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-11) Ireland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ireland) has the second highest percentage; as many as 10 per cent of the Irish population has red, auburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_hair), or strawberry blond (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blond#strawberry_blond) hair.[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-12) It is thought that up to 46 percent of the Irish population carries the recessive redhead gene. A 1956 study of hair colour amongst British army recruits also found high levels of red hair in Wales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales) and the English Border counties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_border).[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-13)
Red hair is also fairly common amongst the Ashkenazi Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jewish) populations, possibly because of the influx of European DNA over a period of centuries,[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] or in the original founding of their communities in Europe.[15] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-14) Both Esau (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esau) and David (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David) are described in the Bible as red-haired. In European culture, prior to the 20th century, red hair was often seen as a stereotypically Jewish trait: during the Spanish Inquisition, all those with red hair were identified as Jewish.[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-15) In Italy, red hair was associated with Italian Jews, and Judas was traditionally depicted as red-haired in Italian and Spanish art.[17] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-16) Writers from Shakespeare to Dickens would identify Jewish characters by giving them red hair.[18] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-17) The stereotype (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype) that red hair is Jewish remains in parts of Eastern Europe and Russia.[19] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#cite_note-18)
It has been suggested before that particularly the Irish may be descendants of the Israelites, one of the lost tribes of Israel. Maybe they had red hair and fair skins. Maybe they didn't have Semitic origins to begin with?
Horn
7th October 2012, 09:38 AM
I remember being invited & attending a Reed family reunion when I was in my teens, must have been my grandmother's maiden name.
Anyway she was a mean bitch (so it was said), and I come to find that Reed probably derived from redhead... :)
hoarder
8th October 2012, 08:47 AM
Indo European history is very important."Indo-European" was discussed on another forum a few years ago and the consensus was that Jews invented this designation to obcure our heritage. I'm not sure if this is true, but the term is modern.
Santa
8th October 2012, 09:28 AM
"Indo-European" was discussed on another forum a few years ago and the consensus was that Jews invented this designation to obcure our heritage. I'm not sure if this is true, but the term is modern.
Hmmm. You mean something like Judeo-Christian?
Perhaps it should it be referred to as Euro-Indopean?
JDRock
8th October 2012, 09:44 AM
..concerning "the fighting irish" ire literally means "fury or rage"...there IS a reason the roman empire stopped expanding at hadrians wall. all my irish side are fighters and are blue eyed and they can HOLD their liquor! my english side has brown eyes and cant hold alchohol at all.
Horn
8th October 2012, 10:23 AM
The indigenous Irish & Scot races in my estimation must have been a very rough and hearty class of people, but then also received influx of many innocent & domesticated type migrants escaping brutes of more central & warmer locations of Europe over the millennium.
As far as Dickens depicting jews as redheads, I think he just felt much the same way about them that I do, or as someone foreign to his nature. :)
hoarder
8th October 2012, 10:53 AM
The indigenous Irish & Scot races in my estimation must have been a very rough and hearty class of people,That they were. Before the influx of Irish to the colonies, some of the English and Dutch did not want them here because they feared the Irish would hang around in pubs, fight and get loud. Others said the braver Irish were needed to penetrate the Appalachians, which would be a boon to the economy. Maybe both were right.
sirgonzo420
8th October 2012, 10:59 AM
Hmmm. You mean something like Judeo-Christian?
Perhaps it should it be referred to as Euro-Indopean?
Aryan still works for me.
Neuro
8th October 2012, 11:22 AM
Aryan still works for me.
Somehow that went out of fashion!
sirgonzo420
8th October 2012, 12:07 PM
Somehow that went out of fashion!
I know, right?
It happened about the same time that Charlie Chaplin mustaches went out of style!
Santa
8th October 2012, 12:21 PM
Others said the braver Irish were needed to penetrate the Appalachians, which would be a boon to the economy.
Well, they definitely penetrated the squaws,...oops, I mean women living in the Appalachians. :)
Horn
8th October 2012, 12:25 PM
Well, they definitely penetrated the squaws,...oops, I mean women living in the Appalachians. :)
Not to derail, but the French were much more gifted in that dept.
They mostly went around the backside of them though.
PatColo
3rd November 2012, 05:14 AM
haven't listened, prolly will later:
Brizer with guest Tom Ryan 2012.10.20 (http://grizzom.blogspot.com/2012/11/brizer-with-guest-tom-ryan-20121020.html)
http://www.awakeradio.co.uk/images/hosts/brizer.png (http://www.awakeradio.co.uk/images/hosts/brizer.png)
Brizer and Tom have a great conversation about Irish and Celtic history, non compliance, and various other subjects.
Awake Radio (http://www.awakeradio.co.uk/index.htm)
Archive (http://www.awakeradio.co.uk/podcasts.php)
Download MP3 (http://k006.kiwi6.com/hotlink/eb31pss72t/brizer_with_guest_tom_ryan_2012.10.20.mp3)
lapis
3rd November 2012, 11:18 AM
Interesting thread! I'll have to ask my dad about this. We're part Irish but I don't know where from. Also got some German in us but for some reason no one ever talks about it.
JDRock
3rd November 2012, 05:49 PM
the irish fought so violently and fearlessly the ever expanding roman empire gave up at hadrians wall rather than face them....wow.
PatColo
3rd November 2012, 06:10 PM
^^^ sorry I shoulda previewed that MP3 in reply 33 before posting. I got around to listening to some, and the host speak so softly he's a strain to hear, and then they just seem to go into a bunch of David-Icke-Alan-Watt-esque stuff which didn't hold my interest at all. It's 1hr 42 mins, and I didn't make it halfway. Maybe it picks up later? skip through it if you're curious...
Separately, don't miss
Thread: Irish Holocaust ("famine") discussion podcast (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?60961-Irish-Holocaust-%28-quot-famine-quot-%29-discussion-podcast)Hatha posted this there,
The famine was an example of the continual British mistreatment of the Irish. Here is a very recent article about how the British used the Irish as slaves two centuries earlier:
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=31076
This is just unbelievable. Makes the British (ruling class) look worse than even the Soviet Union. Once I read that the British invented the concentration camp to deal with the Boers in South Africa. The best example of the British attitude to the Irish can be seen in the movie Braveheart with the comments of King Edward II.
Hatha
PatColo
29th November 2014, 08:17 PM
2 hrs:
http://freedompaloozapodcastnetwork.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/irish-flag-640.jpg?w=326
(http://freedompaloozapodcastnetwork.com/2014/11/27/27th-of-nov-2014-edition-of-tcta-w-shaun-surplus-guest-brizer/) 27th of Nov, 2014 Edition of TCTA w/ Shaun Surplus & Guest Brizer (http://freedompaloozapodcastnetwork.com/2014/11/27/27th-of-nov-2014-edition-of-tcta-w-shaun-surplus-guest-brizer/)
Posted on November 27, 2014 (http://freedompaloozapodcastnetwork.com/2014/11/27/27th-of-nov-2014-edition-of-tcta-w-shaun-surplus-guest-brizer/)
On this edition of Two’s Company, Three’s Allowed, Shaun and Brizer from Ireland, get into talking about the IRA and where it began. Brizer speaks on how his grandfather was a member of the faction and did his part to protect his country. The two also speak about what breakdowns within Irish society have taken place of late and how these disintegration’s relate to the rest of Western Civilisation.
http://freedompaloozapodcastnetwork.com/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1726884650870018/
http://www.dailyslave.com/
Download MP3 (http://k003.kiwi6.com/hotlink/5jz4trpz3e/TCTA_27-11-2014-BRIZ-IRAR64.mp3)
singular_me
30th November 2014, 12:16 PM
lets stretch it a little
time to adjust your clocks. Aryans related to Phoenicia?
what does caucasian mean and entail in the end?
---------------------------------------
The Phoenician Origin of Britons,Scots & Anglo-Saxons
https://www.archive.org/stream/ThePhoenicianOriginOfBritonsScotsAnglo-saxons/POEN_djvu.txt
TITLE OF BOOK:
The Phoenician Origin of Britons Scots and Anglo Saxons Discovered by Phoenician and Sumerian Inscriptions in Britain by Pre Roman Briton Coins.
AUTHOR: L.A. Waddell
http://jrbooksonline.com/pob/pob_toc.html
(free ebook)
mick silver
30th November 2014, 09:36 PM
Irish on mom side , viking on dad side of family does that mean I like to fight and get drunk in the same night
Neuro
1st December 2014, 04:25 AM
Irish on mom side , viking on dad side of family does that mean I like to fight and get drunk in the same night
If you don't your probably more like the mail man... :)
singular_me
1st December 2014, 05:27 AM
just spent 15 mins scanning the archive.org link... rabbit bottomless hole going another step further down... this ethnic/cultural issue is really a deception, because it prevents info like this from circulating and and discovering how intricate the latter is... all good for the so called supremacist ideologies
PatColo
1st December 2014, 07:42 AM
... all good for the so called supremacist ideologies
"supremacist" is a joo thought-crime gatekeeping buzzword... and in their usual, signature Flip-The-Script-And-Project fashion; they (the imposter-israelites) are the only race on earth who actually fit what that smear-word means! :rolleyes:
At least 800,000 fill streets for largest funeral in Israel's history (http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hundreds-of-thousands-turn-out-for-funeral-of-Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-328088)
https://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/ovadia.jpg?w=620
anyways, this'll clear everything up foh shoh!
Thread: Diff between UK, G.Britain & England Explained, plus CA & AU (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71371-Diff-between-UK-G-Britain-amp-England-Explained-plus-CA-amp-AU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
singular_me
1st December 2014, 07:58 AM
all extreme ideologies are joo made. IMHO
this because polarization of thoughts must me sustained.
truth is always somewhere in the middle, as a thin line.
"supremacist" is a joo thought-crime gatekeeping buzzword... and in their usual, signature Flip-The-Script-And-Project fashion; they (the imposter-israelites) are the only race on earth who actually fit what that smear-word means! :rolleyes:
At least 800,000 fill streets for largest funeral in Israel's history (http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hundreds-of-thousands-turn-out-for-funeral-of-Rabbi-Ovadia-Yosef-328088)
https://theuglytruth.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/ovadia.jpg?w=620
anyways, this'll clear everything up foh shoh!
Thread: Diff between UK, G.Britain & England Explained, plus CA & AU (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?71371-Diff-between-UK-G-Britain-amp-England-Explained-plus-CA-amp-AU)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
mick silver
1st December 2014, 08:10 AM
welcome to the matrix s me
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