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TheNocturnalEgyptian
10th October 2012, 11:32 PM
SOURCE:
http://the2012scenario.com/2012/10/i-was-a-paid-internet-shill/

I Was a Paid Internet Shill

Ex-Shill, April 3, 2012, Above Top Secret,

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread826545/pg1

I am writing here to come out of the closet as a paid shill. For a little over six months, I was paid to spread disinformation and argue political points on the Internet. This site, ATS, was NOT one that I was assigned to post on, although other people in the same organization were paid to be here, and I assume they still walk among you. But more on this later.

I quit this job in the latter part of 2011, because I became disgusted with it, and with myself. I realized I couldn’t look myself in the mirror anymore. If this confession triggers some kind of retribution against me, so be it. Part of being a real man in this world is having real values that you stand up for, no matter what the consequences.

My story begins in early 2011. I had been out of work for almost a year after losing my last job in tech support. Increasingly desperate and despondent, I jumped at the chance when a former co-worker called me up and said she had a possible lead for me. “It is an unusual job, and one that requires secrecy. But the pay is good. And I know you are a good writer, so its something you are suited for.” (Writing has always been a hobby for me).

She gave me only a phone-number and an address, in one of the seedier parts of San Francisco, where I live. intrigued, I asked her for the company’s URL and some more info. She laughed. “They don’t have a website. Or even a name. You’ll see. Just tell them I referred you.” Yes, it sounded suspicious, but long-term joblessness breeds desperation, and desperation has a funny way of overlooking the suspicious when it comes to putting food on the table.

The next day, I arrived at the address – the third floor in a crumbling building. The appearance of the place did not inspire confidence. After walking down a long, filthy linoleum-covered corridor lit by dimly-flickering halogen, I came to the entrance of the office itself: a crudely battered metal door with a sign that said “United Amalgamated Industries, Inc.”

I later learned that this “company” changed its name almost monthly, always using bland names like that which gave no strong impression of what the company actually does. Not too hopeful, I went inside. The interior was equally shabby. There were a few long tables with folding chairs, at which about a dozen people were tapping away on old, beat-up computers. There were no decorations or ornaments of any type: not even the standard-issue office fica trees or plastic ferns. What a dump. Well, beggars can’t be choosers.

The manager, a balding man in his late forties, rose from the only stand-alone desk in the room and came forward with an easy smile. “You must be Chris. Yvette [my ex-co-worker] told me you’d be coming.” [Not our real names]. “Welcome. Let me tell you a little about what we do.” No interview, nothing. I later learned they took people based solely on referral, and that the people making the referrals, like my ex-colleague Yvette, were trained to pick out candidates based on several factors including ability to keep one’s mouth shut, basic writing skills, and desperation for work.

We sat down at his desk and he began by asking me a few questions about myself and my background, including my political views (which were basically non-existent). Then he began to explain the job. “We work on influencing people’s opinions here,” is how he described it. The company’s clients paid them to post on Internet message boards and popular chartrooms, as well as in gaming forums and social networks like Facebook and MySpace. Who were these clients? “Oh, various people,” he said vaguely. “Sometimes private companies, sometimes political groups.”

Satisfied that my political views were not strong, he said I would be assigned to political work. “The best people for this type of job are people like you, without strong views,” he said with a laugh. “It might seem counterintuitive, but actually we’ve found that to be the case.” Well, OK. Fine. As long as it comes with a steady paycheck, I’d believe whatever they wanted me to believe, as the guy in Ghostbusters said.

After discussing pay (which was much better than I’d hoped) and a few other details, he then went over the need for absolute privacy and secrecy. “You can’t tell anyone what we do here. Not your wife, not your dog.” (I have neither, as it happens.) “We’ll give you a cover story and even a phone number and a fake website you can use. You will have to tell people you are a consultant. Since your background is in tech support, that will be your cover job. Is this going to be a problem for you?” I assured him it would not. “Well, OK. Shall we get started?”

“Right now?” I asked, a bit taken aback.

“No time like the present!” he said with a hearty laugh.

The rest of the day was taken up with training. Another staff member, a no-nonsense woman in her thirties, was to be my trainer, and training would only last two days. “You seem like a bright guy, you’ll get the hang of it pretty fast, I think,” she said. And indeed, the job was easier than I’d imagined. My task was simple: I would be assigned to four different websites, with the goal of entering certain discussions and promoting a certain view. I learned later that some of the personnel were assigned to internet message boards (like me), while others worked on Facebook or chatrooms. It seems these three types of media each have different strategy for shilling, and each shill concentrates on one of the three in particular.

My task? “To support Israel and counter anti-Israeli, anti-Semitic posters.” Fine with me. I had no opinions one way or another about Israel, and who likes anti-Semites and Nazis? Not me, anyway. But I didn’t know too much about the topic. “That’s OK,” she said. “You’ll pick it up as you go along. For the most part, at first, you will be doing what we call “meme-patrol.” This is pretty easy. Later if you show promise, we’ll train you for more complex arguments, where more in-depth knowledge is necessary.”

She handed me two binders with sheets enclosed in limp plastic. The first was labeled simply “Israel” in magic-marker on the cover, and it had two sections .The first section contained basic background info on the topic. I would have to read and memorize some of this, as time went on. It had internet links for further reading, essays and talking points, and excerpts from some history books. The second, and larger, section was called “Strat” (short for “strategy”) with long lists of “dialogue pairs.” These were specific responses to specific postings.

If a poster wrote something close to “X,” we were supposed to respond with something close to “Y.” “You have to mix it up a bit, though,” said my trainer. “Otherwise it gets too obvious. Learn to use a thesaurus.” This section also contained a number of hints for de-railing conversations that went too far away from what we were attempting. These strategies included various forms of personal attacks, complaining to the forum moderators, smearing the characters of our opponents, using images and icons effectively, and even dragging the tone of the conversation down with sexual innuendo, links to pornography, or other such things. “Sometimes we have to fight dirty,” or trainer told us. “Our opponents don’t hesitate to, so we can’t either.”

The second binder was smaller, and it contained information specific to the web sites I would be assigned to. The sites I would work were: Godlike Productions, Lunatic Outpost, CNN news, Yahoo News, and a handful of smaller sites that rotated depending on need.As stated, I was NOT assigned to work ATS (although others in my group were), which is part of the reason I am posting this here, rather than elsewhere. I wanted to post this on Godlike Productions at first, but they have banned me from even viewing that site for some reason (perhaps they are onto me?). But if somebody connected with this site can get the message to them, I think they should know about it, because that was the site I spent a good 70% of my time working on.

The site-specific info in the second binder included a brief history each site, including recent flame-wars, as well as info on what to avoid on each site so as not to get banned. It also had quite detailed info on the moderators and the most popular regged posters on each site: location (if known), personality type, topics of interest, background sketch, and even some notes on how to “push the psychological buttons” of different posters. Although I didn’t work for ATS, I did see they had a lot of info on your so-called “WATS” posters here (the ones with gold borders around their edges). “Focus on the popular posters,” my trainer told me. “These are the influential ones. Each of these is worth 50 to 100 of the lesser known names.”

Each popular poster was classified as “hostile,” “friendly,” or “indifferent” to my goal. We were supposed to cultivate friendship with the friendly posters as well as the mods (basically, by brownnosing and sucking up), and there were even notes on strategies for dealing with specific hostile posters. The info was pretty detailed, but not perfect in every case. “If you can convert one of the hostile posters from the enemy side to our side, you get a nice bonus. But this doesn’t happen too often, sadly. So mostly you’ll be attacking them and trying to smear them.”

At first, like I said, my job was “meme-patrol.” This was pretty simple and repetitive; it involved countering memes and introducing new memes, and didn’t demand much in-depth knowledge of the subject. Mostly just repetitive posting based on the dialogue pairs in the “Strat” section of the first binder. A lot of my job was de-railing and spamming threads that didn’t go our way, or making accusations of racism and anti-Semitism. Sometimes I had to simply lie and claim a poster said something or did something “in another thread” they really hadn’t said or done I felt bad about this…but in the end I felt worse about the possibility of losing the first job I’d been able to get since losing my “real” job.

The funny thing was, although I started the job with no strong opinions or political views, after a few weeks of this I became very emotionally wedded to the pro-Israel ideas I was pushing. There must be some psychological factor at work…a good salesman learns to honestly love the products he’s selling, I guess. It wasn’t long before my responses became fiery and passionate, and I began to learn more about the topic on my own. “This is a good sign,” my trainer told me. “It means you are ready for the next step: complex debate.”

The “complex debate” part of the job involved a fair amount of additional training, including memorizing more specific information about the specific posters (friendly and hostile) I’d be sparring with. Here, too, there were scripts and suggested lines of argument, but we were given more freedom. There were a lot of details to this more advanced stage of the job – everything from how to select the right avatar to how to use “demotivationals” (humorous images with black borders that one finds floating around the web). Even the proper use of images of cats was discussed. Sometimes we used faked or photo-shopped images or doctored news reports (something else that bothered me).

I was also given the job of tying to find new recruits, people “like me” who had the personality type, ability to keep a secret, basic writing/thinking skills, and desperation necessary to sign on a shill. I was less successful at this part of the job, though, and I couldn’t find another in the time I was there.

After a while of doing this, I started to feel bad. Not because of the views I was pushing (as I said, I was first apolitical, then pro-Israel), but because of the dishonesty involved. If my arguments were so correct, I wondered, why did we have to do this in the first place? Shouldn’t truth propagate itself naturally, rather than through, well…propaganda? And who was behind this whole operation, anyway? Who was signing my paychecks? The stress of lying to my parents and friends about being a “consultant” was also getting to me. Finally, I said enough was enough. I quit in September 2011. Since then I’ve been working a series of unglamorous temp office jobs for lower pay. But at least I’m not making my living lying and heckling people who come online to express their views and exercise freedom of speech.

A few days ago I happened to be in the same neighborhood and on a whim thought I’d check out the old office. It turns out the operation is gone, having moved on. This, too, I understood, is part of their strategy: Don’t stay in the same place for too long, don’t keep the same name too long, move on after half a year or so. Keeping a low profile, finding new employees through word of mouth: All this is part of the shill way of life. But it is a deceptive way of life, and no matter how noble the goals (I remain pro-Israel, by the way), these sleazy means cannot be justified by the end.

This is my confession. I haven’t made up my mind yet about whether I want to talk more about this, so if I don’t respond to this thread, don’t be angry. But I think you should know: Shills exist. They are real. They walk among you, and they pay special attention to your popular gold-bordered WATS posters. You should be aware of this. What you choose to do with this awareness is up to you.

Yours,

ExShill

TheNocturnalEgyptian
10th October 2012, 11:39 PM
This article itself could be fake, since it describes faking news and opinions

I submit it here anyway for educational purposes

Interesting parts in bold

Are you a "high value poster" ?

is your opinion worth "50 or 100 of the lesser names" ?

What are the "lesser known sites" that are mentioned ?


hmmmmmmmm?

PatColo
11th October 2012, 02:05 AM
I recall a similar article, same 'confessions of a conscience racked internet shill' premise, popped up on GIM at some point. Seems it started out the same, but this one goes into much more detail re the specific agenda, and the supporting material provided.

Imagining this is legit, I'd like to hear more about their pay program. If it's "results oriented", they have to have someone reviewing their "work" all day, determining when a "bonus" is deserved? could get contentious! lol :D

Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks)
Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

^ "pro-American..." lol, not one mention in that article of 'murka's boss, izzy!

Don't trust the web (http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/backgroundbriefing/dont-trust-the-web/3725726)


http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/image/3725764-3x2-340x227.jpg

DMac
11th October 2012, 05:09 AM
I wrote a rant in the 'where is the line' thread where one of the claims I stated was that DoD (and I can assume many other private corporations) has the ability for 1 person, using the software Pat mentions, to make posts over dozens of forums.

Yes, this is really happening, and yes I think they work GIM and at some point, GSUS.

What's the word, Anosognosia? The vast majority (95%+ at least) of internet users have no idea the battlefield they step into with an online personality. This ain't a joke and this is why I am still posting on forums.

chad
11th October 2012, 05:39 AM
i know for a a fact that at least 50% of the people who "comment" on huffingtonpost are fake accounts. about 2 years ago, they switched over to this badge system where you get little icons and stuff for posting, karma, etc.

right when they turned it on, all of these accounts magically had pre-populated fields with 80% karma, 567 badge responses, etc. when it was impossible, as the system had just been turned on.

i was live time reading the comments of an article, and people started questioning it. about 10 minutes later, the whole system got turned off. then they turned it back on the next day, and the numbers had magically been massaged downwards. everyone had been baselined. at that point, people stopped paying attention.

i made a note of several accounts that seemed to appear in every comments thread (thunderclap newman, for example), and saw that about a month later, they jacked all of the numbers back up to the original rollout ones. total fraud. also, if you google some of the prolific accounts on huffpo, you can see they literally post about 22 hours a day. no real person could do that.

Santa
11th October 2012, 06:09 AM
I frequent a couple photography sites, and it seems like half the posters are paid corporate product shills.
Assholes for hire. It's the New Journalism.

iOWNme
11th October 2012, 06:11 AM
Another key note is Youtube. I can see people making pro Israel comments, and then go to their channel and see that they have copied and pasted the same comment 100 times all over Youtube.

I truly dont think this is working for them. They might be able to con a simple minded dweeb, but there are A LOT of people who see right through it and call them out on it.

mamboni
11th October 2012, 06:17 AM
I don't doubt for a minute that this type of "influence peddling" and "propagandizing" business is very active and very popular with government agencies who want to shape public internet opinions. I'm sure we've had of few of these phoney posters here at GSUS and for sure at GIM (Agamemnon, Juristic Person, Halophyte, Masonic hoozywhats had to be paid shills supporting the government-sponsored 9/11 meme). I for one don't think this strategy will work. First, the people who psot on internet forums are decidely more independent-minded, cynical and inquisitive than the average bear. And after a forum has been around awhile and built a core of consistent posters a sort of forum culture and general world view forms, a consensus if you will. This forum culture becomes very sentient and informed, as each contributor's addition of some important information or news or whatever makes the group that much smarter and sharper. When a shill arrives on the scene, he is quickly sniffed out as a fraud and torn to pieces long before his false meme has a chance to take hold or influence anyone else.

This phenomenon is on display daily at ZeroHedge, which at times can take on the feel of a tribal ritual torture and sacrifice - the shill is quickly verbally eviscerated and neutralized. My favorate is a shill called Million Dollar Bonus. His posting are pure pro-government pro-FED pablum and the other members just swarm the shill and tear his bullshit posts to pieces with delightful vigor and ferocity. So I think TPTB have a problem with the internet forums - they cannot control free minds and the free exchange of ideas. And where is there such freedom of thought and expression, bullshit and propaganda have a very short lifespan!

madfranks
11th October 2012, 06:56 AM
There are a few things that don't make sense to me about this. As a paid internet shill, how are your goals and quotas documented and confirmed? Would a worker have to print out a thread to prove he successfully converted a member? And if all you have to do to get a bonus is convert other members to your worldview, why not create dozens of sock puppets in all the sites you're working on, and "convert" them? Also, how would your boss know if you're actually working or just goofing off on the net all day? How would the gov't know that the shills are actually having the desired effect, and to what degree?

chad
11th October 2012, 06:59 AM
There are a few things that don't make sense to me about this. As a paid internet shill, how are your goals and quotas documented and confirmed? Would a worker have to print out a thread to prove he successfully converted a member? And if all you have to do to get a bonus is convert other members to your worldview, why not create dozens of sock puppets in all the sites you're working on, and "convert" them? Also, how would your boss know if you're actually working or just goofing off on the net all day? How would the gov't know that the shills are actually having the desired effect, and to what degree?

if you get gim1 shut down, you get a huge ass end of year bonus and a promotion.

sirgonzo420
11th October 2012, 07:03 AM
There are a few things that don't make sense to me about this. As a paid internet shill, how are your goals and quotas documented and confirmed? Would a worker have to print out a thread to prove he successfully converted a member? And if all you have to do to get a bonus is convert other members to your worldview, why not create dozens of sock puppets in all the sites you're working on, and "convert" them? Also, how would your boss know if you're actually working or just goofing off on the net all day? How would the gov't know that the shills are actually having the desired effect, and to what degree?

If it's government funded, then it makes perfect sense.

gunDriller
11th October 2012, 07:08 AM
the location, the basic job, and the background all ring true. from a simple Yellow pages ad - in the SF yellow pages computer section - i went to 2 job interviews that turned out to be with extremely well financed Zionists for more technical work in the mid-90's.

Israel has a very strong presence in San Francisco.

and certainly, Internet monitoring is a growth industry for the Zionists.

Dogman
11th October 2012, 07:09 AM
If it's government funded, then it makes perfect sense.

Agree,

When has sense and logic ever applied to government programs? Using those two words "sense" and "logic" in the same sentence with government is a oxymoron of the highest degree!

DMac
11th October 2012, 07:10 AM
The paid shill style mentioned in the OP is only a fraction of the bigger fish. DoD software for propaganda shilling is much more dangerous IMO.

Neuro
11th October 2012, 07:12 AM
I don't know about the OP story I think it reads like a holohoax survival story. Spicing it up with unverifiable and irrelevant details to give it a personal touch.

mamboni
11th October 2012, 07:15 AM
There are a few things that don't make sense to me about this. As a paid internet shill, how are your goals and quotas documented and confirmed? Would a worker have to print out a thread to prove he successfully converted a member? And if all you have to do to get a bonus is convert other members to your worldview, why not create dozens of sock puppets in all the sites you're working on, and "convert" them? Also, how would your boss know if you're actually working or just goofing off on the net all day? How would the gov't know that the shills are actually having the desired effect, and to what degree?

It's structured like cold calling jobs: minimum wage plus a cash bonus for every influential forum member you cause to get banned. I think that Herme and JD Rock are worth $100 per ban but GoD is worth a whopping $500 per ban because he's so ban-resistent and the hebes really hate him. Of course, I might be totally full of shit too.:cool:

Tumbleweed
11th October 2012, 07:44 AM
The perma ban for Book was probably a cause for a huge celibration by the Jew sympathysers that troll this forum.

PatColo
11th October 2012, 08:50 AM
Also, how would your boss know if you're actually working or just goofing off on the net all day? How would the gov't know that the shills are actually having the desired effect, and to what degree?

5200 Pentagon Employees PURCHASED Child* Pornography! (Why Is This Not A Bigger Story_) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHMyN92T7U)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHMyN92T7U

* jewistic person's records indicated gay pedo porn, same as Anderson Vanderbilt-Cooper's.

Horn
11th October 2012, 09:05 AM
Also be sure that at least 50% of the comments posted underneath anything you buy on the web are created by the same people you are purchasing from.

sirgonzo420
11th October 2012, 09:14 AM
5200 Pentagon Employees PURCHASED Child* Pornography! (Why Is This Not A Bigger Story_) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHMyN92T7U)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCHMyN92T7U

* jewistic person's records indicated gay pedo porn, same as Anderson Vanderbilt-Cooper's.

Why did they purchase it?

The US gov has the largest collection of child pornography in the world. They keep copies of every known piece of child pornography.

madfranks
11th October 2012, 09:18 AM
if you get gim1 shut down, you get a huge ass end of year bonus and a promotion.

Point taken. I am just playing the devil's advocate and trying to imagine myself in their shoes; if I was getting a fat paycheck to dilly dally online all day, I'd just make a bunch of sock puppets, "convert" them and pretty much do nothing. How would they know I wasn't doing my job?

mamboni
11th October 2012, 09:50 AM
The perma ban for Book was probably a cause for a huge celibration by the Jew sympathysers that troll this forum.

Rumor has it a day long holiday celibrating it was declared in Israel, rumor has it.

sirgonzo420
11th October 2012, 10:09 AM
Rumor has it a day long holiday celibrating it was declared in Israel, rumor has it.

With the jewish calendar, every other day is a holiday.

Old Herb Lady
11th October 2012, 10:17 AM
The perma ban for Book was probably a cause for a huge celibration by the Jew sympathysers that troll this forum.


Rumor has it a day long holiday celibrating it was declared in Israel, rumor has it.


rumor confirmed ---- Book-a-banned-a-mitzvah
http://i878.photobucket.com/albums/ab347/krepke/funny-gifs-put-on-your-dancing-jews.gif

TheNocturnalEgyptian
11th October 2012, 12:30 PM
Point taken. I am just playing the devil's advocate and trying to imagine myself in their shoes; if I was getting a fat paycheck to dilly dally online all day, I'd just make a bunch of sock puppets, "convert" them and pretty much do nothing. How would they know I wasn't doing my job?



So for example on the site www.reddit.com (http://www.reddit.com) - which easily has over 5 million users - there is no verification to make an account. You just type the username and password you want and start posting.

A lot of times, when I post any old thing that would go over well here, I am swarmed by replies condemning me. Now some of these are real people, but I'm convinced some of them are not. They don't actually read what I write - they don't respond to my points, they just ignore and keep on berating me, using logical fallacies all the way. I'm convinced that enough replies like this convince "The Masses" that a person like me is not to be listened to. The forums are so large, you don't really get to know individual posters, so people tend to judge others based on how the "hive mind" is treating them. If a person gains momentum towards not being believed, that momentum continues despite how correct that person might be. I've seen it happen 1000x. I've seen it happen to people aren't me.


Also of note is the so called "HBGARY" software, which was designed by the govt. It allows one individual to operate hundreds of accounts simultaneously. It handles logins and passwords, and keeps track of each individual posters background information. Shill1 lives in california, likes dogs, hates authority.... Shill2 lives in peru, does martial arts, and wants a world government... All of these accounts come together to create noise. Sometimes I think the noise NOT geared towards manipulating public opinion towards a certain goal, but instead, drowning out opinions that go against the goal.



So the point is not to encourage a certain goal...the point is to mute opinions which are against the goal...

It's a lot easier to get people to hate things...than to get them to support things.

Hatha Sunahara
11th October 2012, 01:29 PM
How do I know that any of you people are not shills? And how do any of you know I'm not a shill? Once you suspect that there are shills present they've done their job. What I find most loathsome are the shills that use forums like this to collect information about people whom their employers are interested in.


Hatha

MAGNES
11th October 2012, 02:32 PM
these phoney posters here at GSUS and for sure at GIM (Agamemnon, Juristic Person, Halophyte, Masonic hoozywhats had to be paid shills supporting the government-sponsored 9/11 meme).

There is a lot of history here for sure, and warnings from older members of GIM and their analysis.

There are many Jews and Leftists out there that troll for fun, hatred drives them.

Whether or not they are agents or paid shills I don't know for certain. One of the most knowledgeable members on issues called them " Jewish do gooders " , they think they are doing good for their cause. Some believed GIM was too small to get on the real radar. But if you did searches for NeoCons, Wars, etc, GIM came up top 3 or on page one regularly. I believe strongly it got noticed for that, Agora would come up in same search pages regularly as well, Storm Front was also in this field, so I personally believe we were on the radar.

Masonic Plot bragged about having access to software and forums, 30 at a time, monitoring them, whether he was trying to scare us or for real, who knows, he made threats on here of a related nature, " we are good at what we do " , claims he works for SPLC , Gaillo banned him twice I think, PERM.

Let MP stay, he is very revealing, people need to hear it, whether for real or not,
there is another out there like him that is for real.

Masonic Plot was the leader of the shills on gim and he did have skyvike as an ally and they worked it together.

Masonic Plot posts openly on gim right now, right beside Mayhem, and Halophyte, skyvike knows who they are.

Joe King on here is Halophyte, I gave my reasons why I believe so, good reasons.
People here said it was JP, in the end it was hard to distinguish them with their one liner nonsense. But I remember Halophyte, he was a good poster, got mad for Jews getting outed, back then I was quiet. The blowout happened for Halo in the Eustace Mullins tribute thread where Mullins was hospitalized. I rejoin GIM as Eustace Mullins/MasonicFRNS etc, to send them a message, lol, Halo rejoined as Agammemnon to mock me and anty ep.

I was quiet on gim till bans started happeing, like Antonio/Ben/Book getting it.

I will speak to my own experiences.

Some people on this forum think we are just expressing an opinion
when in fact it is a very informed opinion, we know these shills well.
Masonic Plot and I had each other banned permanently, for one.
I get a perm for calling him an " italian rabbi " by skyvike , and he
gets permed the next day by Scorpio in retaliation for my ban.
This is proof also as to how skyvike took over the forum slowly.

We have posters here that go way back and remember when all this
started, I removed the names because I cannot list them all.

I'll only mention Mamboni, who just got hit recently by one of our old adversaries.
So these people are monitoring the forum. Still, they read here, skydyke boot
lickers.
Boner pills 90% off (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?64088-Boner-pills-90-off)

So far we got them 3 for 4, Ulysses/Immanti Mayhem and his 20 socks on here, MP is too blatant to pull shit like that, I doubt he has any socks here, if he does they are sleepers, same thing with Jurisitic Person, he is a sleeper on here or does one liners and stays away from us, Joe King I strongly believe is Halophyte, even Halophyte I do not believe would do on here what Mayhem did, Mayhem is the prime suspect for some sort of paid shill on here, where does he find the time to run all the socks, he had them going on here from day one. I been reading older threads recently. Mayhem is talking to himself in threads with 3 socks, 4 socks, in many threads. In threads where he wants us to stop talking about GIM as well.

There are sleepers on this forum.

You cannot troll the issues here in blatant way, so other tactics are employed
by those that hate us and want us down for good.

Joe King has friends on this forum, some of these people are uninformed/naive,
others not so, they are very deliberate. And Joe King did not go away, he is in chat
with people here and they are very friendly to him.

Stay anonymous, use a separate email for forums, no connection to your real life.

If you post on hard core issues involving Jews, it is imperative you stay anonymous,
trust no one. This is the advice we have been giving going way back.


It's structured like cold calling jobs: minimum wage plus a cash bonus for every influential forum member you cause to get banned. I think that Herme and JD Rock are worth $100 per ban but GoD is worth a whopping $500 per ban because he's so ban-resistent and the hebes really hate him. Of course, I might be totally full of shit too.http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/smilies/cool.png

This is important for the membership to know and understand, this is not a joke.

Minus out everything on all forums, General is from VOR .

He brings real heat to this forum and is a high target.

I don't agree with him on many issues, I still had his back, VOR is good.
That makes me a " nazi " or " white supremist ", lol .

This is why Antonio and Joe King spent years on here + getting under his skin.
Whether or not it is personal, " do gooders " , or pros, Antonio is one pissed off
Jew that changed over time, he was not like that in the beginning.

Last night I changed my signature. We have lost hundreds of aware good posters.
Skyvike getting outed and the realization of being monitored is two main reasons.
Whoever doubts this, skyvike getting outed, major bans, major leaving, GIM was
reinvented overnight almost, that was Dec2007/Jan2008. Shills did that, skyvike himself is a shill. He works for the MIC, weather modification, drone technology, State Department employee. This is one of my main missions here. Keeping this info alive.

April 1st 2010 , some updated screens/links, Book and Fred's work.
MAGNES REPORTING FOR DUTY ! (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?22772-MAGNES-REPORTING-FOR-DUTY-%21)

" Yeah, the afterbirth will be along shortly I'm sure, and the gloves come off. 8) ... *ah poor J6P doesn't realize what he's put himself in for. " Wild Card April 1st 2010



This topic is thee most important topic, disinformation artists, tactics, deceit,
subversion, this is not an academic exercise, GIM was a total case study in this,
trolls and the MSM employ the same tactics even, disinformation artists,
psychological warfare, that is a military term for it they themselves invented.


" BY THEIR WORKS YE SHALL KNOW THEM " GSUS

joboo
11th October 2012, 04:29 PM
Point taken. I am just playing the devil's advocate and trying to imagine myself in their shoes; if I was getting a fat paycheck to dilly dally online all day, I'd just make a bunch of sock puppets, "convert" them and pretty much do nothing. How would they know I wasn't doing my job?

The office can just run everything through an internet proxy server, and see everything the computers in their office do on the internet by user id, computer name, IP address, website, application, etc...

This can all be tossed into a database for monthly reports to slice and dice the data however they want. It's all relatively easy to do, some third party programs are even designed to do it with minimal knowledge other than to enable logging, and point the path to the log files.

gunDriller
11th October 2012, 06:42 PM
Also of note is the so called "HBGARY" software, which was designed by the govt. It allows one individual to operate hundreds of accounts simultaneously. It handles logins and passwords, and keeps track of each individual posters background information. Shill1 lives in california, likes dogs, hates authority.... Shill2 lives in peru, does martial arts, and wants a world government... All of these accounts come together to create noise.


it's not too hard to counter the noise created by the Zio-Shills with some Signal, aka telling the truth.

using multiple browsers facilitates multiple logins. if your goal is to tell the truth, and you have been prevented from doing so by Zio-censor X - it's not hard to break through their Firewall O' Censorship, and get back to good discussions with good people.

joboo
11th October 2012, 07:18 PM
Shit, pretty much everyone knows about that megaphone app years ago. No surprises there. Who is this guy trying to convince really?

$10 bucks says this is one of those GLP loonies trolling the GLP forum. That place is a freakshow.

PatColo
12th October 2012, 05:50 AM
another global 'net crash like in '07 would give those shill cockroaches what they deserve!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvpuT3aoypE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvpuT3aoypE

Canadian-guerilla
12th October 2012, 06:47 AM
after the SHTF
if i run into people spewing NWO/zionist garbage
i'll call them by names such as

Juristic Person ( Jewistic Penis )
Randman ( Randstein )
beaker
etc

and if i see they could be a problem to rebuilding north america

. . . .

mamboni
12th October 2012, 07:29 AM
after the SHTF
if i run into people spewing NWO/zionist garbage
i'll call them by names such as

Juristic Person ( Jewistic Penis )
Randman ( Randstein )
beaker
etc

and if i see they could be a problem to rebuilding north america

. . . .

Yep, I get your drift. It's kinda pointless to build a wood shed with termites around.

JDRock
12th October 2012, 07:52 AM
I don't doubt for a minute that this type of "influence peddling" and "propagandizing" business is very active and very popular with government agencies who want to shape public internet opinions. I'm sure we've had of few of these phoney posters here at GSUS and for sure at GIM (Agamemnon, Juristic Person, Halophyte, Masonic hoozywhats had to be paid shills supporting the government-sponsored 9/11 meme). I for one don't think this strategy will work. First, the people who psot on internet forums are decidely more independent-minded, cynical and inquisitive than the average bear. And after a forum has been around awhile and built a core of consistent posters a sort of forum culture and general world view forms, a consensus if you will. This forum culture becomes very sentient and informed, as each contributor's addition of some important information or news or whatever makes the group that much smarter and sharper. When a shill arrives on the scene, he is quickly sniffed out as a fraud and torn to pieces long before his false meme has a chance to take hold or influence anyone else.

This phenomenon is on display daily at ZeroHedge, which at times can take on the feel of a tribal ritual torture and sacrifice - the shill is quickly verbally eviscerated and neutralized. My favorate is a shill called Million Dollar Bonus. His posting are pure pro-government pro-FED pablum and the other members just swarm the shill and tear his bullshit posts to pieces with delightful vigor and ferocity. So I think TPTB have a problem with the internet forums - they cannot control free minds and the free exchange of ideas. And where is there such freedom of thought and expression, bullshit and propaganda have a very short lifespan! ^ this^

chad
12th October 2012, 08:42 AM
wow, i forgot about randman. blast from the past.

Neuro
12th October 2012, 08:52 AM
wow, i forgot about randman. blast from the past.
Yep, he was certainly a nasty piece of shit, thankfully I haven't thought about him!

Hatha Sunahara
12th October 2012, 09:00 AM
There were lots of trolls at GIM. The only one I ever tangled with was Juristic Person. What a POS. That one taught me what a shill is.


Hatha

PatColo
30th March 2014, 08:12 PM
good comments too:

Forum Shill gets Busted: ATS and GLP Censor to Cover his Tracks (http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-7015a/2924)

Carl
30th March 2014, 09:43 PM
......... Stay anonymous, use a separate email for forums, no connection to your real life....
Well, I guess that makes me pretty much FUBAR.....

brosil
31st March 2014, 05:57 AM
Just to remind the forum, there are companies advertising on the radio to clean up your companies internet image for a price. I suspect they try to bury the negative comments with false positives.

Tumbleweed
31st March 2014, 06:48 AM
Just to remind the forum, there are companies advertising on the radio to clean up your companies internet image for a price. I suspect they try to bury the negative comments with false positives.

Probably Jew owned and operated.

Buddha
31st March 2014, 03:54 PM
Just to remind the forum, there are companies advertising on the radio to clean up your companies internet image for a price. I suspect they try to bury the negative comments with false positives.

I've seen commercials for these on certain channels, late at night. "Are negative reviews damaging your bottom line? These reviews could be comming from companies that are trying to hinder your business. Call us, pay us, and we'll spam your site with positive product reviews!" I'm sure it can go for forums too.

Horn
1st April 2014, 10:20 AM
Well, I guess that makes me pretty much FUBAR.....

Guilt by association.

Carl
1st April 2014, 10:50 AM
Guilt by association.

Done in by a lack of imagination...

Although, a do have a fairly good pseudonym at a gaming site....DwainDibley, but I use the same avatar.....