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madfranks
11th October 2012, 10:07 AM
http://lewrockwell.com/orig13/kahn-c1.1.1.html


Why I Want a Democratic Landslide

by Chris Kahn




I want to see the Democrats win all the way around; the Presidency, the Senate and the House of Representatives. It is not for the reasons you might think. I have no illusions. I do not think they will do anything to address any of the issues I consider important. I think they will do all the wrong things and it will accomplish nothing but to make things worse. Not that I think the Republicans are any better. They would also accomplish nothing either.

I have no doubt that the United States are headed for a financial crisis that will make 2008 look like a picnic. None of the underlying issues that rose to the surface then have been addressed. They have simply been papered over with lies and flimflammery. Sound and fury signifying nothing.

The problem is the media and the punditry have created a false narrative. Voters have been told that there is a clear choice. On one side is a Democratic party that believes government should take extraordinary measures to stimulate the economy and alleviate the effects of unregulated greed among the big Wall Street banks. On the other side is a Republican party offering radical free market policies that would cut government spending to the bone and take us back to gilded age of robber barons and sweatshops.

The portrayal of the Democrats is for the most part accurate. They really do believe that government should act despite the fact that every time such policies have been enacted they have failed. One only has to compare the responses to the depression of 1920 to those of 1929. One resulted in a quick recovery, the other lead to fifteen years of stagnation that was only relieved by the demobilization at the end of World War II and the explosion of prosperity in the 1950s brought about by the reduction of federal economic management.

It is the image of the Republicans that bothers me. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are being portrayed as champions of free markets. Nothing could be further than the truth. Ryan's proposed budget has been criticized as drastic. The truth is even Fox News recognizes that Ryan's "budget plan doesn't actually slash the budget." In reality, the Republicans wouldn't know a real budget cutting plan if it were presented to them.

However, the people who vote don't look at details; they listen to the sound bites and rhetoric that tell them what they want to hear. Herein is the source of my desire for a Democratic landslide. As I said, I believe the worst is yet to come. There will be a collapse worse than 2008 and if Romney is President what the majority of the people will believe is that his "free market" plan did not work. All they will know is Romney's "radical capitalism" caused a disaster and the very idea of genuine free market solutions will be set back for decades, if not generations. My hope is that if the Democrats are in charge when the collapse happens, the idea of government as an economic savior will be collapse as well and that maybe a real free market solution will have a chance.

Neuro
11th October 2012, 10:32 AM
It really doesn't matter what the morons think. They will die!

Horn
11th October 2012, 10:54 AM
It really doesn't matter what the morons think. They will die!

That's Bad, you Big bird!

Apparently all the smart ones moved to Canada after dos Bush got reelected,

and were followed by a similar flight to the Caymens when Obama arrived...

Neuro
11th October 2012, 11:09 AM
That's Bad, you Big bird!

Apparently all the smart ones moved to Canada after dos Bush got reelected,

and were followed by a similar flight to the Caymens when Obama arrived...
Really, those who haven't figured out, that Romney isn't a free market champion, they really will starve to death in the food line when the collapse comes!

madfranks
11th October 2012, 11:54 AM
Really, those who haven't figured out, that Romney isn't a free market champion, they really will starve to death in the food line when the collapse comes!

But the point of the OP is not whether and how the collapse comes, it is that the mass consensus (perception) will either be the collapse caused by the biggest government spender in history versus the "radical free markets" of Romney. This mass perception is going to lay the framework for whatever comes after. I gotta say, I think this guy nailed it on the head, I think I'm now all in for Obama and company, let them take the full force of the collapse right in their ugly faces!

sirgonzo420
11th October 2012, 12:06 PM
But the point of the OP is not whether and how the collapse comes, it is that the mass consensus (perception) will either be the collapse caused by the biggest government spender in history versus the "radical free markets" of Romney. This mass perception is going to lay the framework for whatever comes after. I gotta say, I think this guy nailed it on the head, I think I'm now all in for Obama and company, let them take the full force of the collapse right in their ugly faces!


This is why I feared a Ron Paul presidency would mean that he had been chosen by the cabal to be the fall guy.

Neuro
11th October 2012, 12:08 PM
But the point of the OP is not whether and how the collapse comes, it is that the mass consensus (perception) will either be the collapse caused by the biggest government spender in history versus the "radical free markets" of Romney. This mass perception is going to lay the framework for whatever comes after. I gotta say, I think this guy nailed it on the head, I think I'm now all in for Obama and company, let them take the full force of the collapse right in their ugly faces!
I'll even out your vote by voting for Romney then! ;D

madfranks
11th October 2012, 12:23 PM
I'll even out your vote by voting for Romney then! ;D

I'm not registered to vote, so...

sirgonzo420
11th October 2012, 12:31 PM
I'm not registered to vote, so...

That's what I like to hear.

No sense in endorsing their nonsense.

singular_me
11th October 2012, 12:34 PM
I understand the "perception issue" described in the OP, but I think they will blame it on Iran, China or even the Euro.. or a combination of external factors - however they will come up with something... the more they play the "confusion game", the better...

TheNocturnalEgyptian
11th October 2012, 12:35 PM
This sentiment has been expressed before. If Obama is re-elected, he will be blamed for the coming crash. If a new leader is elected, the new leader will say his policies have not had enough time to take effect.

If the MSM suddenly supported Ron Paul, I would be VERY wary that a crash was coming, and TPTB wanted to blame said crash on the libertarian mindset.

Hatha Sunahara
11th October 2012, 12:56 PM
I applaud you Madfranks for exercising voting restraint. Your analysis is spot-on. Bernanke has bought the system a bit of time with his $40Bn/month purchase of toxic debt. The dollar will die a slow death. It may take until 2014 for hyperinflation to show up, although John Williams at Shadowstats thinks we only have a few months to go. I'm not voting either. No one will be able to blame me for enabling this plunder to happen.


Hatha

madfranks
11th October 2012, 01:25 PM
I understand the "perception issue" described in the OP, but I think they will blame it on Iran, China or even the Euro.. or a combination of external factors - however they will come up with something... the more they play the "confusion game", the better...

True, but the coming collapse will be so monumental I'm not sure blaming China or the Euro will be satisfactory. No doubt there will be lots of fingers pointed at the US government, and whoever is captain of the ship when it sinks will get the majority of the blame.

Neuro
11th October 2012, 01:44 PM
I'm not registered to vote, so...
Me neither. Not quite sure how to do it since I am a Swede residing in Turkey, but I am sure there must be a way!

EE_
11th October 2012, 03:02 PM
For looking like a nut, he sure speaks some good truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pT4QK8pbtmc

sirgonzo420
11th October 2012, 03:13 PM
True, but the coming collapse will be so monumental I'm not sure blaming China or the Euro will be satisfactory. No doubt there will be lots of fingers pointed at the US government, and whoever is captain of the ship when it sinks will get the majority of the blame.


Aye, aye. The captain goes down with the ship.

Horn
11th October 2012, 03:55 PM
I don't think they give a rats ass who is in charge, either way it goes down the tubes.

One hand you have corporations running rough shot over the people. The other you have the government doing the same.

Just so long as the people keep getting trampled under foot, and power remains in fewer pockets, not with the people.

All in all that won't work for long after a short time either. They know this too, and why no real knowledge is being made available to anyone for the last 50years.

Horn
11th October 2012, 04:11 PM
For looking like a nut, he sure speaks some good truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pT4QK8pbtmc

I wonder if Brother Nathanial gives away free hats like his with donation like that EuroUnion site La'Indetifique or whatever it was called?

Neuro
12th October 2012, 01:55 AM
None of the presidents following JFK will be forgiven, by the survivors of the collapse. Anyone with half a brain can see that Romney isn't a free market promoter, and that he is essentially the same as Obama. And yes you need more than half a brain to survive the collapse. You really can't do it on food stamps or a government defence contract...