I am a Troll and proud off it.........go F yourself

[Glass]

What can we discern about this person right up front?


Jaime Cochran is a 20-something professional living in Chicago. She works all day on a computer, but her real labour, the one she loves, is hated around the world.
Cochran is a self-identified troll. She trawls the internet day and night, looking for “victims” — emotional strangers Cochran deems ripe and right for a ripping.
When she's spied one — in a chat-room, forum or social media group — she casts out “lines with trivial bait” and reels them in, hurling insults, inciting their rage and taking great pleasure in their mounting fury.

http://images.theage.com.au/2012/10/15/3715956/troll_729-620x349.jpg


It sounds cruel. Trolling in the eyes of many is a deeply disturbing and sinister occupation. But Cochran insists there's method to her meanness. She declares herself a performance artist, compares herself to Andy Kauffman, and describes her trolling as “more cerebral than abrasive”. According to this young troll, she's out for scalps, not souls.
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“First and foremost, to me, trolling is an art,” Cochran begins to explain. “It's a way of evoking a reaction.”

Young, employed and articulate, in many ways Cochran debunks popular stereotypes about trolls. She is no teenage boy, fuelled by foul energy drinks and hormones pushing bile into the cyberspace from the darkness of his bedroom. But she is gleeful when her trolling incites rage. She feels good when being bad.

“[Trolling] might be something as banal as insisting men who drink their coffee black aren't real men, because they can't handle the cream and sugar,” she says.

“I waged a massive rhetorical campaign against Chicago's 'jamband' scene, lampooning its tepidity and lack of originality.

"The blow-back got around to my friends almost instantly, since they are Chicago musicians. I started getting text messages about how mad everyone was getting. I even had a guy who I went on one date with texting me saying he works with a member of one of the bands I was bashing and that he was pissed.

"I laugh just thinking about it now. Some people need to learn how to take criticism, especially on the internet.

“ stupid, but hilarious.”

But who's laughing really? The many who believe trolling is a threat to civilisation are not. Those who trolls have chewed up and spat out aren't either.

Charlotte Dawson wasn't laughing when she landed in hospital. The father, grieving for his dead 15-year-old girl, was not laughing when he confronted Cochran and other trolls face-to-face last week with the story of how his daughter's online tribute page was defaced by an anonymous troll-gang.


Steven Deguara said there was nothing funny about trolling as he addressed Cochran during a live recording for an [I]Insight trolls special, to air on SBS tonight.

Though not responsible for his child's posthumous humiliation, Cochran was one of three self-proclaimed trolls who watched Deguara fight back tears while sharing his story.
“It was heartbreaking, absolutely heart-breaking,” Deguara said afterwards.

“These people – trolls – need to know that this isn't funny. Something has to be done. It's not jokes, this is people's lives.”

Yet the Insight trolls were quick to disassociate themselves from the mourning father's experience. Such behaviour – vicious jokes about deceased teenagers, or targeted campaigns of hate against the weak – doesn't really count as 'trolling', they claimed.



Rest of story @ the Age (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/confessions-of-a-troll-trolling-is-an-art-20121015-27n3f.html)

[chad]

she has the dead eyes.

[Shami-Amourae]

Can she top Kacey?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrOlox9_-sw

[iOWNme]

This system's 'Professional' Trolls wouldnt last 3 min here. GSUS cant be CONNED like the rest of the sheep.

I love GSUS!


But this lady isnt even Trolling with disinfo. She is a DRAMA troll! Holy crap! I stopped reading after that.....LOL

What they dont tell you are the REAL Trolls are the MSM and their crafty mouthpieces. Using Disinfo as actual real truthful facts.

[Neuro]

she has the dead eyes.
Yep, at best she is a sociopath!

[MAGNES]

This system's 'Professional' Trolls wouldnt last 3 min here.
GSUS cant be CONNED like the rest of the sheep.

I love GSUS!

We owned them on GIM too, which is how we ended up here.

Does anyone really believe everyone here is a legitimate member,
they employ other methods here, they did that on GIM too.

They may not be professional trolls, they may be troll supporters, some sort of crypto,
Jewish people and their supporters, or other people that see themselves as " victims " , leftists, more blatant marxists like Ulysses/Immanti , some may have mixed feelings about forums like this, about this forum in particular, some are honest about it some are not,
some are blatant, some are sleepers, some are here just to monitor, report to skyvike.


I believe that the majority of us are thankful to Skyvike and Scorpio for building us this fine new home after the old place burned. But the number of ingrates among us is truly astonishing and their attitude gives them visibility they don't deserve.


You are paranoid that there are powers conspiring to keep you down. Thanks again Skyvike for making us less skeptical about TPTB, what a delusional bunch of crackpots. Leave your shoes at the door and I'll shine them for you. Dinners at 6:00.


http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Hugginator http://gold-silver.us/forum/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?p=499358#post499358) Anything by Magnes, GoD book or Ponce they the best of the best.

[Osiris]

How boring and miserable is your life to be a troll? Anyone who get their kicks just fucking with people is a pos! Regardless of the reason. IMHO

[Gaillo]

What can we discern about this person right up front?...

That she's Percival? ;D

[mamboni]

That she's Percival? ;D

Quite possible. These shills are psychological vampires. They feed off the life force of others because they are spiritually dead. Trolls need to be avoided. Without victims to suck, they wither and die.

[Twisted Titan]

"I laugh just thinking about it now. Some people need to learn how to take criticism, especially on the internet



unless you are zionist jew....then anything said is a acttack on you and your kind

[ImaCannin]

JANADELL, is that you????

[joboo]

Fairly relevant info missing from the original cut/paste:

"I also look at [trolling] as a form of culture jamming, in the sense that it can disrupt the status quo to hopefully stop and make people think for a moment. I'm an activist as well and absolutely have no problem trolling people that are activists too, even if we're on the same side.

"I troll Anonymous, I troll Occupy, I troll Wikileaks. I do it because I'd like them to see the hypocrisies of their and our ways and as a reminder that the emperor wears no clothing."

From this point of view, Cochran sees the idea trolls are undoing the world as laughable.

Thinking trolling damages society is "absolutely ridiculous" she says, rubbishing the so-called "war on trolling" and urging people to focus on other, greater issues. Issues like big banks, home foreclosures, and Justin Bieber, she says, only half-serious. "

Makes a good point no doubt.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/7821309/A-troll-makes-her-case

[Glass]

Not sure she's making any good points there. Just showing a little more of who she is. She is the same as Beck for instance. Beck is a Troll.

Also as some one pointed out, a psychopath. Psychopath's blame their victims for being attacked. Like a rapist blames the woman because she "wanted it" based on some delusion the perpetrator holds. Same with this person. It's not her fault you are getting picked on by her. It's your fault.

These are interesting traits don't you think?

[joboo]

Exposing hypocrisy is what it is regardless of affiliation. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that was her primary motivation based on the sites she frequented.

[Twisted Titan]

Not sure she's making any good points there. Just showing a little more of who she is. She is the same as Beck for instance. Beck is a Troll.

Also as some one pointed out, a psychopath. Psychopath's blame their victims for being attacked. Like a rapist blames the woman because she "wanted it" based on some delusion the perpetrator holds. Same with this person. It's not her fault you are getting picked on by her. It's your fault.

These are interesting traits don't you think?




She cries out in pain.....as she Trolls you.

[joboo]

I wonder why trolling can exist? Could it be that there is actually more than one valid point of view on the same reality?

Maybe being pressed intellectually outside of ones comfort zone is a bad thing?

New definitions of what is trolling are soon to be established. Everything is speeding up.

Edit.

For example:

"Indeed, the young troll admits to being the victim of cyber-abuse herself. She's familiar with "downright mean and cruel" attacks. Through Cochran maintains such behaviour should be seen as bullying, not trolling"

"I have a great distaste for tactless trolling and believe it cheapens it as an art form. I steer clear of bullying and malevolent trolling."

"If you're not from the internet, you probably won't get it or at least have a skewed perception when you hear the term 'troll', which is unfortunate."

[Glass]

I wonder why trolling can exist? Could it be that there is actually more than one valid point of view on the same reality?

Maybe being pressed intellectually outside of ones comfort zone is a bad thing?

New definitions of what is trolling are soon to be established. Everything is speeding up.

There can only ever be one point of view on reality. You experience a reality I don't experience. As a result I can't form a point of view about your reality. I can form points of view about you experiencing reality but I can't experience your reality. Not possible sorry.

It keeps coming back to the narrative doesn't it? The truth doesn't matter. All that matters is the story you form in your own mind or one that is formed for you that matters. As long as they can be confident you are forming the right narrative then you are ok. If your narrative is off kilter then you got problems. Truth is irresistable. Truth is. Whether you can see the truth or want to acknowledge the truth is up to the individual but regardless of your personal narrative the truth will affect you without fear or favour.

Justification is generally how people deal with their encounters with truth. They form a narrative in their mind which justifies the "truth" that they just experienced.

[Neuro]

I wonder why trolling can exist? Could it be that there is actually more than one valid point of view on the same reality?

Maybe being pressed intellectually outside of ones comfort zone is a bad thing?

Bringing up other valid points to a reality is not trolling, distracting valid points is. Trolling exist because the goals one has is morally and objectively indefensible.

[joboo]

There can only ever be one point of view on reality. You experience a reality I don't experience. As a result I can't form a point of view about your reality. I can form points of view about you experiencing reality but I can't experience your reality. Not possible sorry.

It keeps coming back to the narrative doesn't it? The truth doesn't matter. All that matters is the story you form in your own mind or one that is formed for you that matters. As long as they can be confident you are forming the right narrative then you are ok. If your narrative is off kilter then you got problems. Truth is irresistable. Truth is. Whether you can see the truth or want to acknowledge the truth is up to the individual but regardless of your personal narrative the truth will affect you without fear or favour.

Justification is generally how people deal with their encounters with truth. They form a narrative in their mind which justifies the "truth" that they just experienced.

What of the age old addage "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"?

How does that fit in to your thinking?

[joboo]

Bringing up other valid points to a reality is not trolling, distracting valid points is. Trolling exist because the goals one has is morally and objectively indefensible.

Even if it identifies hypocritical viewpoints? What really is a valid viewpoint when everything is constantly changing? All the variables are continually shifting around in circles. Empires rise, and fall, power balances never remain constant.

Is it still considered trolling to encourage someone rethink their position?

[Neuro]

Even if it identifies hypocritical viewpoints? What really is a valid viewpoint when everything is constantly changing? All the variables are continually shifting around in circles. Empires rise, and fall, power balances never remain constant.

Is it still considered trolling to encourage someone rethink their position?
Using of valid points is not trolling... Encouraging someone to rethink their position through valid arguments, is called a discussion. Asking you to put down the crack pipe isn't...

[joboo]

Using of valid points is not trolling... Encouraging someone to rethink their position through valid arguments, is called a discussion. Asking you to put down the crack pipe isn't...

Then you missed what she is doing altogether, and are inserting your pre-conceived definition of what this woman is about based on the term trolling.

I also inserted direct quotes from her to help clarify that for you, and suggested the term trolling will merit new definitions going forward.

No crack pipe action is taking place Neuro.

[Neuro]

Then you missed what she is doing altogether, and are inserting your pre-conceived definition of what this woman is about based on the term trolling.

I also inserted direct quotes from her to help clarify that for you, and suggested the term trolling will merit new definitions going forward.

No crack pipe action is taking place Neuro.Trolling and bullying is not the same thing sure. But why would you redefine trolling, you throw out lines with baits and hooks with the intention of distracting and disrupting a person or a discussion or a forum. Some do it for kicks, some do it for money, some do it out of tribal loyalty...

[joboo]

Trolling and bullying is not the same thing sure. But why would you redefine trolling, you throw out lines with baits and hooks with the intention of distracting and disrupting a person or a discussion or a forum. Some do it for kicks, some do it for money, some do it out of tribal loyalty...

Because if there's no malevolence, or bullying, and points are being made, is it still trolling?

I suppose if there is a point to be made, and the person takes 10 posts to make it, then that's ridiculous, but at that point it's really more like spamming or just plain rambling idiocy...or perhaps opinion trolling.

I dunno seems to be a grey area to me, no such thing as bad PR, and all that.
To me, if there is no opposing viewpoint, no matter how ridiculous it may seem at first, nothing is usually learned (or not as much).

[Glass]

Is it still considered trolling to encourage someone rethink their position?

No it's called debate and reasoning. I don't see anywhere that is mentioned. I got the impression she harrangues people she disagrees with and gets a thrill if they take the bait. I don't see it as anything sohisticated or intellectual in the behaviour she describes. I simply see it as a behaviour that is made possible by the internet. As an annonymous keyboard jockey people can say all sorts of things without fear of reprisal. Perhaps now she is outed it might be more difficult for her to stay anonymous. Time will tell.

[Hillbilly]

On the Tone Scale she would be a classic 1.1 a she is covertly hostile she hides behind the "performance art" but is a truly evil hostile person.

[DMac]

I think the point of this article is to draw attention away from the real problematic trolls, Megaphoners, DoD.

Now when people hear about internet trolling it is connected to online bullies, or general douchebaggery ("insisting men who drink their coffee black aren't real men, because they can't handle the cream and sugar,").

This lady is trashy and I'm sure she's lapping up her 15 minutes with a big spoon.

[Old Herb Lady]

Trolling and bullying is not the same thing sure. But why would you redefine trolling, you throw out lines with baits and hooks with the intention of distracting and disrupting a person or a discussion or a forum. Some do it for kicks, some do it for money, some do it out of tribal loyalty...


....some do it, laughing all the while, just to torture annoying doctors.......

[JDRock]

...did she mention who pays her to troll??

[Janadele]

No.

JANADELE, is that you????

[joboo]

No it's called debate and reasoning. I don't see anywhere that is mentioned. I got the impression she harrangues people she disagrees with and gets a thrill if they take the bait. I don't see it as anything sohisticated or intellectual in the behaviour she describes. I simply see it as a behaviour that is made possible by the internet. As an annonymous keyboard jockey people can say all sorts of things without fear of reprisal. Perhaps now she is outed it might be more difficult for her to stay anonymous. Time will tell.

Meh it's a grey area. What one sees as witty/edgy sarcasm others will see as trolling.

I get the feeling she's along the lines of one man's troll is another man's zombie alarm clock.

[iOWNme]

No it's called debate and reasoning. I don't see anywhere that is mentioned. I got the impression she harrangues people she disagrees with and gets a thrill if they take the bait. I don't see it as anything sohisticated or intellectual in the behaviour she describes. I simply see it as a behaviour that is made possible by the internet. As an annonymous keyboard jockey people can say all sorts of things without fear of reprisal. Perhaps now she is outed it might be more difficult for her to stay anonymous. Time will tell.

This ldy has nothing to do with DISINFO and everything to do with DRAMA.

REAL trolling in done by TPTB and use the Hegelian Dialectic, CoIntelPro, Disinformation and outright LIES to influence unknowing members. NOT call names, and make fun of your sock color.

[vacuum]

This entire interview is illogical. You can't interview a troll. They will troll you. You simply have to be aware when you are being lead down a rabbit trail, to expend your energy and emotions. Sure the rabbit trail is a logical path - one thing follows from the previous thing. But is an extraneous and irrelevant path. Therefore, it is best to ignore trolls. Nothing in this interview can be trusted.

[osoab]

How did our resident Mittens cheerleader get perma-ed?


edit, found Gaillo splainin in the holy underwear thread.

[Glass]

This ldy has nothing to do with DISINFO and everything to do with DRAMA.

REAL trolling in done by TPTB and use the Hegelian Dialectic, CoIntelPro, Disinformation and outright LIES to influence unknowing members. NOT call names, and make fun of your sock color.

Well I think she is one of them. She's just a trained Psyops person IMO. The DRAMA is the shield or cover.