Will you vote this year?

[MNeagle]

Yes or No

[Dogman]

Yes, at least if I vote, I feel that gives me a right to complain. At least I am trying to do my part, unlike some.

[iOWNme]

No.

Remove your name from the ballot or stop complaining when the system you legitimize and worship DESTROYS YOU.


This is the recent Libertopia 2012. Listen to the drastic difference between ideologies...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGJoPKwOps8&feature=g-hist

[LuckyStrike]

It depends if Merlin Miller is on the ballot, if not than no.

[Down1]

Probably not for the first time since I registered.

[woodman]

By voting, you lend credence to a corrupt system that only serves to enslave humanity. I do not participate in the charade.

If voting could change anything, it would be illegal. Damnocracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for supper.

[madfranks]

A man is none the less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master once in a term of years.
~ Lysander Spooner

[madfranks]

The problem with voting is that the politicians always win.

[AndreaGail]

no i will not be voting

[Shami-Amourae]

I only voted to vote Yes on Prop 37 (GMO labeling). I'm considering not voting anymore after this.

[V10Silver]

Vermin Supreme!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE

[milehi]

No. I tried to barter my vote to my brother who I owed a favor to. He just laughed.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Yes.

Voting on state resolutions make a huge difference. Votes are counted directly, and if they reach 50%, they become law.

The presidential election, however is a joke.

[Ponce]

What for? we already know who the real rulers of this country is.......and no matter who we voted for WTSHTF is going to happen anyway.

[singular_me]

voting would go against my anarchist political views.... I havent voted in the last 20 years.

[midnight rambler]

Yes, at least if I vote, I feel that gives me a right to complain. At least I am trying to do my part, unlike some.

Actually the truth is that you have ZERO 'right to complain' since by 'voting' as a 'U.S. citizen' (recall that you signed that 'voter registration' swearing under the pains and penalties of perjury that you're a *14th Amendment* 'U.S. citizen') you have SANCTIONED *whatever* nonsense they come up with. So you can just STFU now you voluntary slave/14th Amendment U.S. citizen.

[Dogman]

Actually the truth is that you have ZERO 'right to complain' since by 'voting' as a 'U.S. citizen' (recall that you signed that 'voter registration' swearing under the pains and penalties of perjury that you're a *14th Amendment* 'U.S. citizen') you have SANCTIONED *whatever* nonsense they come up with. So you can just STFU now you voluntary slave/14th Amendment U.S. citizen. What ever!

[midnight rambler]

What ever!

If you're not part of the solution, then YOU are the problem. --a good friend of mine who knows the score

[Hatha Sunahara]

I will not be voting for any politicians running for office. I will be casting a vote for Measure 80, which is to legalize marijuana in this state.

Hatha

[Neuro]

Actually the truth is that you have ZERO 'right to complain' since by 'voting' as a 'U.S. citizen' (recall that you signed that 'voter registration' swearing under the pains and penalties of perjury that you're a *14th Amendment* 'U.S. citizen') you have SANCTIONED *whatever* nonsense they come up with. So you can just STFU now you voluntary slave/14th Amendment U.S. citizen.
Wouldn't that apply if you have EVER voted in their elections? How would one go about denouncing ones voluntary slavery/14th amendment citizenry, if possible?

[midnight rambler]

Wouldn't that apply if you have EVER voted in their elections? How would one go about denouncing ones voluntary slavery/14th amendment citizenry, if possible?

Any contract based upon fraud is null and void ab initio.

[Neuro]

Any contract based upon fraud is null and void ab initio.
So what you said in post #16 has no bearing then?

[midnight rambler]

So what you said in post #16 has no bearing then?

Participation = sanctioning, plus admission that one is a 'U.S. citizen'

Coming to one's senses and not participating, along with taking positive concrete action to divorce one's self from the fraud = not agreeing with/sanctioning their horseshit

[osoab]

I am voting for Turd Sandwich, however, Giant Douche is looking more appealing. I just cannot decide. :D

[midnight rambler]

I am voting for Turd Sandwich, however, Giant Douche is looking more appealing. I just cannot decide. :D

The current state of affairs is so close to the 'choices'* the Soviet system offered up in 'elections' that it's all breathtakingly stunning.

*you DO have a couple of choices AND you DO get to vote comrade, so shut up and vote already!

[EE_]

http://imgace.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/giant-douche-2012.jpg

[osoab]

The current state of affairs is so close to the 'choices'* the Soviet system offered up in 'elections' that it's all breathtakingly stunning.

*you DO have a couple of choices AND you DO get to vote comrade, so shut up and vote already!

Nah, it's worse than the Soviets. Our proles lap it up with glee and fervor. The Soviet proles knew they were screwed.

[singular_me]

just let system crash under its own weight... the pain cannot be avoided anyway

and if you are not enough prepared, serendipity will provide. there is an upside in every obstacle. I have experienced this a gazillion times on my road trip.

[osoab]

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-5.jpg (http://www.zerohedge.com/users/tyler-durden)
Doug Casey's Top Five Reasons Not To Vote (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-22/doug-caseys-top-five-reasons-not-vote)

[Neuro]

Participation = sanctioning, plus admission that one is a 'U.S. citizen'

Coming to one's senses and not participating, along with taking positive concrete action to divorce one's self from the fraud = not agreeing with/sanctioning their horseshit
Ok fair enough!

[Osiris]

I haven't decided if i'll vote on the propositions. Definitely not on the president.

There is a prop here regarding public safety. The amount of money they spend is ridiculous and the scare tactics are shameful!

[Old Herb Lady]

Not voting . Waste of time. Besides the obvious --Romney's got something sinister planned/ going on behind his innocent boyish looks & Obama isn't even eligible to be a prez.

[osoab]

Any one else feel like posting signs at the polling places that read...


.....,,,,,.. Don't Vote.
You Only Encourage Them.

[k-os]

The points made by midnight rambler (and others over the years who advocate abstaining from voting) are good ones. I am undecided as to whether I will vote this time or not.

Assuming votes are counted correctly:
- I'd like to write in Ron Paul, but they didn't even bother counting the write-in's last time.
- I'd like to vote for Gary Johnson. If every Libertarian did so, instead of voting for "the lesser of two evils", we could possibly see a strong showing for a decent third party option, which we desperately need. I see this as a way of "planting seeds". Yeah, maybe he wouldn't win, but the Libertarian party could start to see some press. This thought is probably naive, but I am assuming that the votes are counted correctly . . . so there's that.

On the other hand, I probably shouldn't vote at all, but from a "counting" aspect, that just makes me appear apathetic, which I am not just yet.

I am truly torn, so I didn't answer the poll.

[osoab]

Gary Johnson wants to tax "marijuana". Fuck him.

[Sparky]

...

On the other hand, I probably shouldn't vote at all, but from a "counting" aspect, that just makes me appear apathetic, which I am not just yet.
...


This is a factor for me as well. I understand and respect the argument for not voting, but I don't want to be counted amongst the apathetic. I know that on some local ballots, they allow you to essentially vote for "no vote", which shows that you were willing to take the effort to go to the poll, but were dissatisfied with your options.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

A vote of no confidence would be nice. Or a vote of no vote, as sparky has said.

[Hatha Sunahara]

Lew Rockwell has an entire archive on 'Not Voting' here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/non-vote-arch.html

He gives some good observations about not voting and evil in government in a recent interview with Alex Jones here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ACwpv_xAD5I#!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ACwpv_xAD5I#!

Reasons not to vote from 3:00-5:00
The whole video is excellent.


Hatha

[Golden]

Every transaction is a vote cast. Apathy is treason. However, giving your consent via "voting" in the current context is treason. From a counting aspect? Is that a joke? Fundamentally what is discussed on this forum is attempting to go "off the grid" or "under the radar". So which is it? Do you want to be a good sheep, lick your chains and stand in line? Or do you want to throw off your chains and blaze your own path? Good grief people be PROUD stand up for what YOU believe in.

[vacuum]

This is a factor for me as well. I understand and respect the argument for not voting, but I don't want to be counted amongst the apathetic. I know that on some local ballots, they allow you to essentially vote for "no vote", which shows that you were willing to take the effort to go to the poll, but were dissatisfied with your options.

How about writing a letter and mailing it it with an empty ballot and an explanation of why you are unable to support the current election system with a vote?