Steven Spielberg's new film 'Lincoln'

[jimswift]

I'm sure the timing nor if it is an accurate account of history was considered in the making of this. /sarcasm

Lincoln is as polarizing a figure and story you can find, which fits right in with this current regime I suppose.

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From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_%282012_film%29):

DreamWorks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamWorks) has announced that the film "will focus on the political collision of Lincoln and the powerful men of his cabinet on the road to abolition and the end of the Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War)."[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_%282012_film%29#cite_note-Slashfilm-7) According to Spielberg, Doris Kearns Goodwin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Kearns_Goodwin)'s entire book about Lincoln's presidency is "much too big" for a film, and said that the film will focus on the last few months of Lincoln's life, the ending of slavery and the Union (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_%28American_Civil_War%29) victory in the Civil War (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War). Spielberg said that "what permanently ended slavery was the very close vote in the House of Representatives over the Thirteenth Amendment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion) – that story I'm excited to tell." Spielberg plans to show "Lincoln at work, not just Lincoln standing around posing for the history books...arguably the greatest working President in American history doing some of the greatest work for the world."[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_%282012_film%29#cite_note-http:.2F.2Fwww.empireonline.com.2Fnews.2Fstory.asp .3FNID.3D32102-8)
Screenwriter Tony Kushner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kushner) has said that he worked on the script for six years and that he was very interested in "the relationship of Lincoln to the abolitionist GOP" and that Lincoln's "incredible ability to finesse very, very treacherous political circumstances and continue to move the country forward, I mean, to lead the country forward in the midst of the most horrendously difficult period in its history, I think, is breathtaking and awe-inspiring."

[JohnQPublic]

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[slvrbugjim]

Yawn, yea we all know that Lincoln was all about ending slavery and saving the Union, he has a really big statue there in DC so he must have been a great Pres.
Reminds me a little of United Flight 93 and Oliver Stone's film called "World Trade Center," Propaganda

[iOWNme]

What this shows is the systems DESPERATE attempt to reel back in millions of people who have woken up to fact that CRIMINALS are in the Federal Government.

I wonder if Spielberg will talk about the B'nai B'rith and their implications in the assassination of Lincoln?

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?35681-The-Ugly-Truth-about-the-ADL&highlight=ugly+truth


History has many layers and dimensions, and if you dont know about all of the angles, you will not fully understand what is happening....

[willie pete]

lincoln was a Tyrant

[Uncle Salty]

How about a movie that unveils the truth about the jewish slave ships?

[freespirit]

How about a movie that unveils the truth about the jewish slave ships?

doubt it...jewish-owned and operated hollyweird would never allow such a movie to be released.

[midnight rambler]

This is probably as historically accurate as the movie about Lincoln as a vampire hunter. lol

[PatColo]

How about a movie that unveils the truth about the jewish slave ships?

'berg did that already- but he forgot the joosh angle, in fact he accidentally miisidentified the slave trade operators & domestic slave owners as being White Chrisitan HATERZ.

Thread: "Amistad" - Spielberg's Inspirational & Compassionate Movie about American Slavery (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54017-quot-Amistad-quot-Spielberg-s-Inspirational-amp-Compassionate-Movie-about-American-Slavery)

[Uncle Salty]

'berg did that already- but he forgot the joosh angle, in fact he accidentally miisidentified the slave trade operators & domestic slave owners as being White Chrisitan HATERZ.

Thread: "Amistad" - Spielberg's Inspirational & Compassionate Movie about American Slavery (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?54017-quot-Amistad-quot-Spielberg-s-Inspirational-amp-Compassionate-Movie-about-American-Slavery)

Exactly.

What a douche.

[singular_me]

good timing.... releasing a movie to revive a so-called patriotism just before WW3

[LuckyStrike]

I think we've talked about the worst presidents here at GSUS before, to me it's hard to nail it down. There have been some horrible ones, Federal Dictator Rosenfeld is a popular choice, but without lincoln, FDR would've never been my president, so to me these guys like hamilton and lincoln are to blame for everything that came after them including wilson, fdr, johnson etc etc..

It is etched in my DNA to loathe that son of a bitch.

[General of Darkness]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CwkG2C5sAc&feature=related

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

First of all I love freedom, slavery never should have happened, it is against freedom.



I wonder if this movie will have the balls to print Lincoln's quotes about how he never wanted to free the slaves, how he disliked black people in general and did not think it was appropriate for them to mingle into society. His words [paraphrased] not mine, I am not a racist, but a historian. I wonder if this movie will report how lincoln instituted martial law and had newspaper men who spoke out against him beaten, arrested and held without trials. I wonder if it will cover his suspension of habeus corpus. I wonder if it will cover the european moneylenders trying to give lincoln warloans at 26-34%. I wonder if they will make a big deal at all about lincoln paying for the war via printed money, the greenbacks. Or the way that the south was economically blockaded from receiving any goods or supplies. I wonder if the film will mention that all who fought in the civil war went to war as citizens of their home state, but came home from the war as citizens of washington DC.



Nah. It probably won't cover any of that.

[ShortJohnSilver]

I have gone to two different movies, so I have seen this trailer twice now.

the movie is based on the book by Doris Kearns Goodwin - a lefty who got caught in a plaigarism scandal and somehow managed to avoid losing her status. She is connected, somehow - she is even on the board of directors for Northwest Airlines

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Kearns_Goodwin

Not Jewish, but Irish Catholic Democrat, so that is almost as bad.

Then we have Antonio Robert "Tony" Kushner, the Big Gay Al of screenwriters. Arrogant, homo bastard who wrote "Angels in America" - yes, Jewish. He also co-wrote the script for the Jewish terror film, "Munich" which was about the killing of those responsible for the killing of Jews at the Munich Olympics. Note the use of 2 Christian names, even though both parents were Khazar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Kushner

Schpielberg - well, you know about him already.

[singular_me]

from the trailer I couldnt sense that the movie will have a huge emphasis on race/slave trade. I expect very graphic images (lots of battles and killings)

edit: yes the lincoln legacy is a major deception but when I look back, history is repleted with such political backgrounds.

[iOWNme]

First of all I love freedom, slavery never should have happened, it is against freedom.



I wonder if this movie will have the balls to print Lincoln's quotes about how he never wanted to free the slaves, how he disliked black people in general and did not think it was appropriate for them to mingle into society.

Lincoln wanted to send all the freed slaves to Liberia to have a Nation of their own. He certainly DIDNT want them in America. SO much for 'Freedom'. Lincoln and the Nation of Liberia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Colonization_Society#Lincoln_and_the_ACS

[madfranks]

I'm sure they will portray the civil war as an unavoidable conflict where the strong leader Lincoln was able to secure victory for liberty and freedom, even though slavery was ended peacefully on every other country on earth, and only here in the US was a war "necessary" to end it.

[JDRock]

...so let me get this right...another talmudic jew is rewriting history of a president elected by talmudic jews who went to war against his own nation which was goaded/ financed by talmudists to teach and propagandize the goys just before an election which is also run by talmudic jews...
@ uncle salty- right on about the jewish slave ships.

[DMac]

Abraham Lincoln: Tyrant (gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?52528-Abraham-Lincoln-Tyrant)

From this thread:
Hacker Collective Anonymous Issues Open Letter To Citizens Of The United States (http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?46231-Hacker-Collective-Anonymous-Issues-Open-Letter-To-Citizens-Of-The-United-States)





Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt,

WTF are they smoking????


T

Lincoln was a good man........understand he didnt impliment the 14th amendment that is enslaving everyone, his murderers did.
Roosevelt .....well not much can be said about him except for his track record


Let's hear the words straight from Lincoln's mouth (one of my top 5 least favorite presidents)


"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been in favor of bringing about in anyway the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

More on Lincoln and his resettlement/colonization ideas:

Abraham Lincoln's Program of Black Resettlement (http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n5p-4_Morgan.html)


Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd, was the daughter to a powerful banker that was also one of the most prominent slave owners.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Todd_Lincoln

Lincoln was a politician through and through. In other words, a liar and a thief.

Lincoln issued the Greenback to fund his war of aggression on the South. He was a tyrant. Yes, a tyrant that was an enemy of the Rothschilds, but I am not one that buys into "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." He was a puppet to the dominant railroad industry of the time. Similar to the bank/big oil whores we have today.

The Emancipation Proclamation DID NOT FREE SLAVES! The Thirteenth Amendment did.



"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."

[jimswift]

"If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."


This sounds like some flip/floppy shit Mittens would say.

[TheNocturnalEgyptian]

Something interesting about the 13th amendment, it still allows slavery as punishment for a crime:


Amendment XIII - Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

That's what prison is, right?

[gunDriller]

Spuck Fielberg.

[iOWNme]

Something interesting about the 13th amendment, it still allows slavery as punishment for a crime:



That's what prison is, right?

EXCEPT that people VOLUNTEER for 99.9% of what they call 'Slavery'.

[jimswift]

Time’s Rx: More Politics, More Politicians, More Lincoln Worship



by Thomas J. DiLorenzo (TDilo@aol.com)


"Lincoln as political strategist is front and center in Steven Spielberg’s new film. He trades votes, dangles patronage, hedges principles and tiptoes on the brink of deceit. He pleads, cajoles and threatens."
~ David Von Drehle, "Lincoln to the Rescue: What the Master Politician of 1862 Can Teach the Presidential Hopefuls of 2012 (http://nation.time.com/2012/10/25/lincoln-to-the-rescue/)" (Time magazine, Nov. 5, 2012)

"Lincoln was a master politician, which means that he was a consummate conniver, manipulator, and liar."
~ Murray N. Rothbard, "Two Just Wars: 1776 and 1861 (http://mises.org/media/1063/Two-Just-Wars-1776-and-1861)"



Steven Spielberg must have grown a Pinocchio-sized nose when he announced recently that his forthcoming movie about Lincoln, based on the book Team of Rivals (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743270754?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0743270754&linkCode=xm2&tag=lewrockwell) by the confessed plagiarist Doris Kearns-Goodwin, was not a political movie since it will be released after the election (See my LewRockwell.com review of Goodwin’s book entitled "A Plagiarist’s Contribution to Lincoln Idolatry (http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo98.html)"). Time magazine let the cat out of Spielberg’s bag in its November 5 issue, which is a glowing tribute to politics, politicians, big government, and most of all, to the legend of Abraham Lincoln.
A picture of actor Daniel Day-Lewis portraying Lincoln is on the cover with the headline, "What Would Lincoln Do?" The issue includes a long-winded essay by Lincoln historian/cultist David Von Dehle; a "viewers guide" by the dishonest Doris Kearns Goodwin; and a story of "How Daniel Day-Lewis Became Lincoln."
The purpose of the Lincoln legend has always been to assert that our "salvation" lies in politics, not in God. Lincoln is our secular "god," and our rulers will never let us forget it. That is why the U.S. government has spent millions over the past several years on the publication of dozens of books, conferences, movies, documentaries, plays, etc. to commemorate Abe’s 200th birthday (That was 2009 and the "celebration" is still going strong). That is the purpose of the upcoming Spielberg movie and its celebration in Time and elsewhere.


Truth and Lies About Politics and Politicians
In his Time essay David Von Drehele continues the century-and-a-half long deification of Lincoln (the worst kind of blasphemy) by celebrating what a lying, conniving, politician he was. He approvingly quotes Lincoln’s law partner, William Herndon, as having said that Lincoln was the "mostly secretive man that ever existed." One wonders why he had to be so "secretive" if what he was doing was in "the public interest," as we are constantly told.





Lincoln was first and foremost a sleazy, small-minded, patronage politician from Illinois. As Drehle writes, he always paid "small-minded attention to politics" and "spent dozens of hours each week painstakingly distributing the rapidly growing number of federal jobs at his disposal." Even when the Confederates were racking up battlefield victory after victory, and threatening to capture Washington, D.C., Lincoln "nevertheless devoted huge blocks of time to selecting tax collectors authorized by the first internal-revenue act."
He did all of this, says Drehle, to gain support for "holding the union together." Wrong, Mr. Drehle. He did this to destroy the voluntary union of the founding fathers and replace it with an imperialistic empire. The idea of a voluntary union is apparently one of those "principles" that Drehle is so happy that Lincoln "hedged" on. He threatened war over tariff tax collection in his first inaugural address, and then followed through with his threat after duping the Confederates into firing the first shot at Fort Sumter (where no one was harmed, let alone killed, save one horse).
Lincoln is also worshipped in Time for having "hedged principles" and "tiptoed on the brink of deceit" by committing treason by invading the Southern states (Article 3, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution defines treason as "only levying war upon the states . . . " which of course is exactly what Lincoln did. Other hedging of principles about which we are supposed to be thrilled is his illegal suspension of Habeas Corpus, mass imprisonment of tens of thousands of Northern political critics without due process; the shutting down of hundreds of opposition newspapers; censorship of the mails; confiscation of firearms; rigging of elections; deportation of an opposition party congressman (Clement L. Vallandigham); illegally orchestrating the secession of West Virginia, the last slave state to enter the union; and worse.


Lincoln’s Greatest Failure
Lincoln was indeed a master politician, as described in the quote at the top of this article by Murray Rothbard. As such, his greatest failure was that he did not use his famous political skills to do what all the rest of the world did about slavery and end it peacefully. This includes all of the Northern states as well as Great Britain, Spain, France, Denmark, Sweden, The Netherlands, and all other countries where slavery existed in the nineteenth century (See Greatest Emancipations (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006W44S5G?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=B006W44S5G&linkCode=xm2&tag=lewrockwell) by Jim Powell, along with Slavery in New York (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1565849973?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=1565849973&linkCode=xm2&tag=lewrockwell) published by the New York Historical Society; Disowning Slavery (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0801434130?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0801434130&linkCode=xm2&tag=lewrockwell) by Joanne Pope-Melish; and the Web site, "Slavery in the North").
Instead of working diligently to end slavery peacefully in the British tradition, Lincoln’s unprincipled, deceitful, threatening, and dictatorial behavior that is so heavily praised by Spielberg, Goodwin, Drehle, and Time, led to the death of more than 800,000 Americans according to brand new estimates of "Civil War" deaths, along with the maiming for life of more than twice that number. Standardizing for today’s population, that would be the equivalent of more than 8 million American deaths in a four-year war.
But not to worry. As Drehle soothingly informs us, Lincoln’s conniving, manipulating, and deceitful behavior is what enabled him to sign "the visionary bills that created the transcontinental railroad, the modern fiscal system, the homesteading movement, and the nation’s land-grant universities." "Never has there been a moment in history when so much was all compressed into a little time, Drehle quotes one political contemporary of Lincoln’s as having said. The domestic policies of the Lincoln administration were labeled The New Deal, a phrase that would be plagiarized by FDR seventy years later.
The government-subsidized transcontinental railroads were colossally inefficient and led to the biggest corruption scandal in history up to that point; and the "modern fiscal system" in the form of the National Currency Acts and Legal Tender Acts nationalized the money supply, leading to endless monetary manipulation and boom-and-bust cycles caused by subsequent generations of wily politicians like Lincoln. Most of the land given away under the Homestead Act went to large corporate supporters of the Republican Party in the mining, railroad, forestry, and other industries as historian Ludwell Johnson showed; and the land-grant acts opened the door to the effective nationalization and politicization of higher education along with the plague of political correctness. Hurrah for Lincoln!





The fact that the Republican Party was able to railroad the country into the old Whig Party mercantilist political agenda of corporate welfare, protectionist tariffs, and a nationalized monetary system gives the lie to the story told by Doris Kearns-Goodwin and Steven Spielberg that Lincoln was such an unmatched genius when it came to politics. Once the Southern Democrats left the union, thereby forfeiting any right to say anything about the extension of slavery into the Territories – THE big slavery issue of the 1860 election – the Republican Party had the ability to do whatever it wanted, regardless of Lincoln’s input.
Most of the major problems with American society today, from poverty and unemployment to crime, declining standards of living, and more, are caused by the politicization of society that has been relentlessly ongoing for generations and which is celebrated and deified by leftists like Steven Spielberg and Doris Kearns-Goodwin. They keep dragging out the rotted stench of Lincoln’s corpse disguised by professional actors, makeup artists, and cinematography to keep the booboisie dumb and happy and uneducated about their own history.
If America’s founders were alive today, many of them would throw tomatoes at the screen upon viewing Spielberg’s upcoming movie about Lincoln. Thomas Jefferson would likely throw the first "pitch" since he believed that government needed to be "bound by the chains of the Constitution," so untrustworthy were politicians and politics. In his Farewell Address George Washington reminded Americans that politicians are, as a rule, "cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men"; and Thomas Paine wrote that government was "a necessary evil," at best. This is exactly the opposite view of the infantile rantings of Time magazine and Spielberg’s Lincoln movie.

November 1, 2012