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Ponce
23rd October 2012, 09:03 AM
Less than a month ago news broke that 10 PAMP gold bars filled with tungsten had been discovered in Manhattan. An SD reader then discovered a Chinese firm openly promoting the sale and production of tungsten filled gold bars and coins.
The tungsten filled gold scandal has just gotten exponentially larger, as an Australian Seven News investigation discovered 300 fake Perth Mint gold bars and uncovered a Chinese gold ‘forgery factory’.

The investigators were able to purchase 300 Chinese sourced 1oz gold bars for a total of $300- and to no one’s surprise, when the investigators melted down the bars, all 300 were discovered to contain roughly the same gold content as Fort Knox.

Seven News reports:

An Australian mint has called in the Federal Police after being shown evidence by Seven News that its gold bars are being counterfeited.

The investigation uncovered Chinese ‘forgery factories’ that will churn out fake bullion and even Australian coins, for a fraction of their face value.

Just one of the bars (seen below) should be worth more than $1,700.

The fake bars discovered are reportedly Perth Mint Kangaroos:



“There are some poor people out there who have gone and bought these products thinking they’ve got a bargain and have actually been ripped off,” Ron Currie from the Perth Mint said.

At Wenzhou, in China’s south east, a suspicious discovery is made after taking a tour of one factory that makes medals and badges – there are thousands of samples.

On the front is stamped “Perth Mint Australia”, on the back are kangaroos – a close copy of the actual design used by the mint.

The tour guide doesn’t hold back when quizzed about the procedure.

“First we did the silver plating, then the gold plating,” he said.

What should be valued at $510,000, is actually counterfeited gold bars that Seven News paid $300 for (300 pieces at $1 each).

Mr Currie says while the number reaching Australia is relatively small, the damage can be significant – butthere are tell-tale signs.

“If it looks like a deal that’s too good to refuse – you should refuse it. Secondly the quality – the quality is nowhere near as good as the real product,” he said.

“We’ll of course follow it through and take it up with the Australian Federal Police.

“The Australian Federal police are very helpful and are very interested in stopping counterfeits or copies coming into Australia.”

China has long forged Western products, but this is altogether different because it has the potential to do so much harm.

We again stress to our readers the importance of purchasing your bullion from a reputable dealer that purchases its product DIRECTLY from major wholesalers and refiners.

In other news, the Chinese forgery factory reported Monday a record 150 ton order from long time client the NY Fed.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Fake_gold_bars_discovered_at_Australia%E2%80%99s_P erth_Mint%2C_Chinese_forgery_factory_uncovered/22161/0/0/0/Y/M.html

beefsteak
23rd October 2012, 09:10 AM
Loved that last line, Ponce.


In other news, the Chinese forgery factory reported Monday a record 150 ton order from long time client the NY Fed.

That's rich!

Ponce
23rd October 2012, 09:25 AM
That's probably why Germeny wants all their gold back......RIGHT NOW........ but all that they can get on their phone call to the NY Fed is.......... "Sorry but all our lines are bussy, please call back later".....

Twisted Titan
23rd October 2012, 09:32 AM
They are hitting the Gold wave with everything they got but NOTHING can stop it.

This is the machinations of somebody that is growing very desperate.

Everybody buy 3 Mercury Dimes today to add to their misery and mayhem

JohnQPublic
23rd October 2012, 09:33 AM
I guess Venezuala got all their gold tungsten bars back.

Venezuela Receives Last Shipment of Repatriated Gold Bars (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-31/venezuela-receives-last-shipment-of-repatriated-gold-bars-1-.html)

Twisted Titan
23rd October 2012, 09:43 AM
boy that would be a friggen dooz

i would have sent metalurgist right there to test the bar once confirmed i would have never left the metal out of my sight until that was one a plane heading to bogota

Ponce
23rd October 2012, 10:16 AM
I believe that all my silver and gold is safe because the last time that I bought any of it was in 2002.......the fake one started to come out of the closet in 2004.

It would be nice to have a few fakes ones just in case you are invaded, they can take away the fake ones.

steyr_m
23rd October 2012, 10:22 AM
I guess Venezuala got all their gold tungsten bars back.

Venezuela Receives Last Shipment of Repatriated Gold Bars (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-31/venezuela-receives-last-shipment-of-repatriated-gold-bars-1-.html)



If I were the Valenzuelans, I would get those bars assayed immediately.

gunDriller
23rd October 2012, 02:34 PM
If I were the Valenzuelans, I would get those bars assayed immediately.

might be too late !

Ponce
23rd October 2012, 02:42 PM
They already got it out abut eight months ago, when it got to Venezuela the people were at each side of the streets while the trucks were taking the gold to the bank.......

All nations in the world should take teir gold out of the US because the US would use any excuse to fight those countries and confiscate their gold........to the US government oil and gold is more important than friendship....or at least to those behind the US governemnt.

beefsteak
23rd October 2012, 05:34 PM
I believe that all my silver and gold is safe because the last time that I bought any of it was in 2002.......the fake one started to come out of the closet in 2004.

Sorry to burst your sense of gold security bubble, Ponce, but prior to 2002 the most heavily counterfeited world gold coin commonly available for purchase was the Krug 1TO. Most folks still don't know they have funny gold in their possession from back in the day. Especially those passed along via inheritance route.

Beginning in 1985, the United States Congress outlawed the (new krugs) coins from being sold in the United States due to association with the apartheid government. (http://www.cmi-gold-silver.com/krugerrand-gold-coins.html) However, the law did not prohibit the buying or selling of Krugerrands already in the U.S. This allowed for the coin to still remain a commodity with U.S. investors, and laws against importing of the coin were eventually lifted in 1994.

According to the major US coin dealers with whom I canvassed at the national coin shows that year, the forbidden krugs' imports had EVERYTHING to do with bad krugs and nothing to do with the apartheid struggle there.

Many dealers set up at the national coin shows were conducting electrical conductance testing on each and ever krug offered over the bourse tables to them to buy. It was a nifty little lexan gadget into which the dealer would slip the offered coin, note the readout, and then buy or reject on the spot any krugs that didn't fall within the tolerances.

I've never owed a krug of any kind after 1982. And I still won't.